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Who would win in a fight to the death?
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>>144323202
Never seen the person on left and he looks really badly drawn too.
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>>144323202
This already happened. Arc beat him at 20%
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>Her ability to deal with single opponents, "single entity ability", is roughly on the same level as Servants, so she has bad compatibility against those like Gilgamesh. Servants utilize Noble Phantasms, while she utilizes her backup, leading to differences depending on affinity. She can be called a "simple-is-best" fighter and an all rounder with high chances in most fights, but doesn't go well with those of high versatility. Gilgamesh has the "firepower" of over five Servants, but Arcueid is only able to draw strength based on "single entity ability." He has roughly the same statistics as her, but a large amount of weaponry to utilize against her, making her have horrible compatibility in such a fight.
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>>144323202
Gilgamesh wins. Arcuied get power up by the person personal power but she doesn't get more strength from noble phantasm.

Gilgamesh and Lancer from the 5th war can do an upset by killing her. Gilgamesh for having so many noble phantasms, he can find the right one to kill her and Lancer can do an instant kill if he gets lucky.
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>>144323202
not this shit again
ea cannot sever her connection with earth.
gilgamesh loses
/thread
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>>144323202
Gilgamesh got BTFO by a fucking human
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>>144323813
Arcueid was raped by a sickly high school boy.
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>>144324021
She wanted it. Just look at this slut.
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>>144324021
did he kill her?
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>>144323202
Arc wins. Gilgamesh cannot beat her in a fight to the death.
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>literal incarnation of the Earth
>king of jobbers
Take a guess.
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>>144324076
Does it count if she doesn't die when she's killed?
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Assuming Gilgamesh is SERIOUS, and we're talking a real battle...

Obviously her go-to win method would be Marble Phantasm, but Ea can shred that apart. Which means she'd need to be able to handle every single NP in GoB without MP. I'm willing to bet Gil has at least 10 NPs that are good for killing vampires/undead/etc.

Unless we're talking Archetype Earth, Arc loses.
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>>144323813
Why do people always "cite" this, knowing it's a terrible example because they can't comprehend rock-paper-scissors?

I don't get it, why do you idiots never stop? It's clearly and cleanly explained in the source material.
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>>144323202
Gil wins because of her stupid ability
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would Gilgamesh consider her as mongrel?
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>>144324408
do you mean we're talking about 30% arcueid now?
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>>144324521
Well, she is a supernatural existence close to a god, superhuman in all stats and without blemish.
But, then again, he is an arrogant prick.
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>>144324640
>close to a god
she's above gods anon
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But could Shiki beat Shirou?
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>>144324408
If Gil is allowed to go serious despite how OOC it'll be for him to do so then Arc is allowed to stop supressing her bloodlust for the fight. You can't have it your way only.
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>>144324692
naturally
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>>144324321
he should have killed her until she died
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>>144324852
Calm yourself, I specifically noted not Archetype-Earth for a reason.
>despite how OOC it'll be for him
Would Gilgamesh really not see a True Ancestor as a worthy opponent? That's an existence above any Servant, and he takes a few of those seriously.
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>>144324963
Gil has no knowledge of vampires. In F/SF he said "Dead Apostle? what's that?". He thinks vampires are limited to things like Dracula.
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>>144325108
Then the king of jobbers needs to learn his place in the nasuverse.
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>>144325108
really?
anyway what era does crimson moon came to earth?
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>>144325108
Then Arc wins by a surprise attack, easy.
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>>144325187
Somewhere around the end of the Age of Gods or the Dark Ages. I think.
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>>144323202

>That part in the VN when the mighty Arcueid , was laying on the floor naked, her legs spread, her pussy exposed and with tears in her eyes she begged Shiki to not rape her.

Gilgamesh as a dick so he wins.
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>>144323713
Nice headcannon brah. Heres a (You)
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>>144325398
Gilgamesh doesn't have the Tohno gland
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>>144325512
not an argument
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>>144325574
Again what you just stated is nothing but a headcannon. It has no basis in type moon.
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>>144324521
More importantly, would Gilgamesh be interested in acquiring her?
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>>144325697
It's possible. She is nobility after all.
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>>144325753
>nobility
Anon, she is the planet's defense system.
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>>144325683
there's no basis that gilgamesh could sever her connection too.
A lot if not most of type moon arguments don't have basis' and people can still agree with them.
Nasu enjoys to stimulate the imagination of his consumers
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>>144325947
But she's a princess and the queen of my heart
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>>144325697
she didn't have tragic ideal, so he won't be interested in her.
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>>144326074
Arcueid way of living is a tragic one.
Gilgamesh would be top aroused by the idea of having her drink blood.
It wouldn't play well for him.
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>>144326401
But arcueid seems don't care, gilgamesh wouldn't be too interested in her if she's not suffering
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Gilgamesh because he comes from a more profitable franchise and thus it is better to just let him win.

Powerlevels are retarted. Fictional beings follow fictional rulesets and whoever the author desires to win wins (no Featherine bs pls)
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Both of them can eat shit

Solomon
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Gilgamesh would win because there will never be a remake ;_;
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>>144323202
So, left is a terrible vampire according to Japan ?
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>>144323202
Solomon kills both of them with a gesture.
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>>144323202
>planet vs planet buster
GEE I WONDER
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>>144329493
Ea is an anti-planet noble phantasm. Doesn't mean it can actually take out Earth, it just affects planets.

Just like the Churches anti-vampire conceptual weapons tend to not be effective against the strongest vampires.
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>>144329443
We got confirmation that Solomon already failed to kill Arc in the Melty verse. His emissary that was supposed to activate his ring of doom was killed and Archetype Earth will took center stage in the last chapter and in all likelihood she'll do or say something that would make Solomon look like an idiot.
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>>144324963
>Calm yourself, I specifically noted not Archetype-Earth for a reason.

Bloodlusted Arcueid is pic related.

White Princess Arcueid>>Fallen Princess Arcueid>>Melty Blood Arcueid>>>Red Arcueid>>30% Arcueid>>>>>>>>>>>Tsukihime Arcueid
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>>144329493
>Planet Buster

Newfags still don't understand Anti-World doesn't mean planet buster.

>>144329808
>Ea is an anti-planet noble phantasm. Doesn't mean it can actually take out Earth, it just affects planets.

Ea is anti-world, anti-planet is a completely different thing.

Destroying a world is destroying a reality marble.
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>>144323202
Gilgamesh would lose but she would be heavily fucked up
Sort of like what Shiki did to her

On a side note
>you will never cuddle with Arc after having passionate wonderful sex in the missionary position
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>>144324521
No.
Regardless of what happened with Shirou, Gil is capable of judging a person's true worth/ability.
Arcueid is completely off the scale and has an aura about her
There's no doubt that he'd notice this and misjudge her
He probably still wouldn't go 100%, but he'd go higher than he has before

I'm conflicted if I want to post Arc or Gil pictures

B-both?
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>>144325108
> In F/SF he said "Dead Apostle? what's that?".
Tell me what day/route he said that because I don't believe it
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>>144330437
>implying worlds/planets arent big reality marbles
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>>144326025
Hanako is my waifu
Ilya is my daughteru
Kotomine is my husbandu
Gilgamesh is my King
Arcueid is my Princess
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>>144331321
It's in Fate Strange Fake (F/SF)
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>>144331538
Oh I saw an N instead of F
My bad
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>>144328172
>those guys

All the worlds keks.
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>>144323388
On the moon she weakens her enemies to 1/6 their power instead. Amaterasu still has a high chance of beating her since Diine Spirits get buffs in the Moon Cell.
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>>144324021
>by a sickly high school boy.
No luck involved in achieving that feat.
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>>144324408
>Ea can shred that apart
No, it can't. Marble Phantasm is basically Arcueid making things happen, like ripping through timespace, bringing the future into the present, or magically ripping you to shreds in an instant from a distance. It's not some kind of RM, it's a magic machine.
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>>144330138
Wait, what? Who confirmed that? Where/when did that happen?
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Does Kintoki have sexual intercourse with Tamamo?
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>>144332470
Did Kintoki fuck oni Aoi Yuuki?
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>>144331260
I-is that a genderbent Arc in the background...?
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>>144323202
If he goes all out, but she still restrains herself (so 30%), he wins since he's somewhat of a counter and has broken firepower.

If she takes the gloves off and lets loose it gets exponentially worse for Gilgamesh based on how far she goes, ranging from more off a toss-up match to him getting brutally buttfucked.
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It ends with Nanaya raping gil, don't ask me how it just happens.
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>>144334713
It's not rape if he likes it
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>>144328172
>>144329443
Kanata beats him.
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>>144333298
Probably. Either that or Crimson Moon.
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Arc easily
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>>144338987
There's no way Crimson Moon is a bishounen.
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>>144341344
Not with that attitude young man
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Serious Gilgamesh just divines the noble phantasm he needs to pull out to negate Marble Phantasm, then guns her down while laughing and jacking off.
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one is pretty much a mary sue the other a jobber
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>you will never strap gilgamesh to an operating table, gently assuring him it'll be okay as you take your saw to his skull
>you will never gently remove 40% of the mass of his prefrontal lobe, watching in delight as he slowly loses himself as you carve away his higher brain functions
>you will never bathe him and flip him daily to prevent bedsores as he is in recovery
>you'll never see the childish wonder in his eyes when he awakes, essentially an easily stimulated doll for you to play with
>you'll never teach him how to drink from a bottle, or gently spoon mushed up food you chewed yourself into his mouth to feed him
>you'll never tuck him into bed, gently stroking all over his body as he murmurs and falls asleep
>he'll never inquisitively suck on your rock hard cock, licking up precum greedily as a tasty snack and gripping your shaft like a lollipop
>you'll never fuck his ass raw as he sobs into the pillow before putting talcum powder all over it as a punishment for when he's naughty
>you'll never greedily slurp up his drool every morning to wake him up, suckling his cheeks for the sweet nectar
>he'll never call you daddy in his slurred, barely coherent voice as his feebled mind tries to process who you are despite lacking long term memory

i wish i were dead
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>>144341781
It's okay.
I wish you were dead too.
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>>144341344
He's definitely bishounen. With Arc as a daugther, he has to be. I've always thought of him as looking like Gilgamesh.
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Gilgamesh is FTL unlike Arc. Also Ea is a galaxy buster so gg
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>>144342440
>Also Ea is a galaxy buster
What?
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>>144323253
Is this ruse?
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>>144342467
You were baited
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>>144323202
Ask mugen.
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is this new melty blood manga?
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>>144323202
Who the fuck are those ?
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>>144343381
Atari dumbledore and king of the jobbers
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Can the Touman beat Gil? He's killed god
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Arc requires the earth to survive

Gil has a space ship and an anti world NP.
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>>144343699
Of course.
Touma is a 2hou, dodging a few swords is nothing.
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>>144343381
Arcade Bumstead and some irrelevant kid
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>>144324670
Is there any mention of gods in FSN? I doubt she would win against Trimurti
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>>144343893
Only Ea being made by gods so Shirou can never copy it.
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>>144343893
The goddess Artemis is present in Fate/Grand Order. (The hero you summon is Orion, but she cheats the system and rides along.) Amaterasu shows up briefly in Fate/Extra CCC as well.
Gods ultimately are just natural phenomenon deified by mankind. However, you are correct in that the most powerful of these go beyond 30% Arc by a wide degree. Arcueid has a chance at defeating Amaterasu according to Nasu, but only a very low one. The high tier gods are freaks.
100% Arc is equivalent to a planet and beyond gods, however.
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>>144343699
Absolutely not.

http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sha_Nagba_Imuru

Gilgamesh would understand Toumas ability immediately and smash a few buildings into him
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>>144343953
I thought EA was made by ayyy
>>144343966
100% Arc is like Gaia's full power? If Gil has Ado Edem then he can kill her
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>>144343966
Nasu's statement was about 100% arc in regards to her chances of beating Amaterasu, not 30%

And need I remind you that Kiara - who is below gods by a wide margin - is well above planet destroying capability?
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Kotomine route fucking when?!
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>>144344048
>100% Arc is like Gaia's full power? If Gil has Ado Edem then he can kill her
Ado Edem is a person who won't exist for thousands of years. How could Gil have him?

>>144344064
>Nasu's statement was about 100% arc in regards to her chances of beating Amaterasu, not 30%
Now that's completely baseless, that was stated under the "White Berserker" entry and doesn't stipulate that at all. Please don't wank.

>And need I remind you that Kiara - who is below gods by a wide margin - is well above planet destroying capability?

Excuse me, fucking what? Heaven's Hole is born from the consumed amalgam of several gods, including the primordial mother goddess who is more powerful than any other god. Did you even play CCC? B.B. was taken into her. She stands leagues above gods.
Also, she's not planet-destroying, she destroys an entire planet's population. Angra Mainyu/CCC only works on entities with subjectivity.
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>>144344048
Nah
Gaia is 100% Arc
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>>144344014
>http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Sha_Nagba_Imuru
The fuck is this? Why does Nasu always do this to Gil, giving him random and abstract powers... Why does he always have something to counter? Is Nasu a gilfag?
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>>144344209
>Is Nasu a gilfag?
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>>144344162
>Ado Edem is a person who won't exist for thousands of years. How could Gil have him?

I assume he means Slash Emperor. But since Slash Emperor is made from Ado Edem and isn't a sword in the typical way Gil would never have it. If he did it would probably be his weapon of choice anyway because it's hax.

>>144344209
Becuase he keeps powercreeping shit and he needs gil to remain relevent.
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>>144344048
>Giltards so retarded as usual that they post their fanfiction of Gil owning Ado Edem.

Someone needs to screencap this.

Ado Edem is not even a NP and even if it was, Gil does not own all the NPs in the world, you fucking retarded Gilfag.

There are plenty of NPs that Gil does not have.
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>>144344575
>There are plenty of NPs that Gil does not have.

Name five. Bonus points if none of them are Excalibur or Avalon.
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>>144344616
He doesn't have any of the "derivatives" he has "the original versions" IIRC

I think the VN even exemplified it as him having Gungnir but not Gae Bolg.
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wat is EA?
can i find it on wikipedia?or it just only exist in natsu verse?
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>>144344616
Karna's Spear, Gae Bolg, God Hand, UBW, Blood Fort Andromeda
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>>144344616
Gil, himself, said if the hero was from a civilization as ancient as Sumer, there was a chance he wouldn't have the hero's NP which is why Gil does not have Karna's spear.

Egypt was active around the same time as Gil's time period so very high chance Gil would not have many Egyptian heroes' NPs because many of them don't even have prototypes.

Karna's spear has no prototype as well.
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>>144344718
>Egypt was active around the same time as Gil's time period

Before and during.
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>>144344665
>UBW is NP
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>>144344665
He does have Gae Bolg you fucking asshole.
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>>144344850
He doesn't, you stupid newfag.

Play the fucking game.

It is implied that Gil doesn't have the actual Gae Bolg that Cu is using.

He has Gae Bolg's predecessor
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>>144344796
UBW is a NP. Do you know what a NP is?

Is is the representation of a mystery which includes concepts not just items.
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>>144344921
>UBW is a NP
UBW is more like a spell that just functions like a NP. It's closer to Tsubame Gaeshi than Excalibur.
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>>144344921
>The “Innate Bound Field” wielded by Emiya. It is his ability as a Heroic Spirit with no Noble Phantasms.
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