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So we know that Rose of Versailles had two different directors and Dezaki worked on it only in the second half. But can anyone tell me how this effected the show? From what I've seen the style was rather consistent, maybe the second half was a bit less avant-garde but it did have the similar transitions from animated frames to painted pictures for example.
You thought the second half was less avant garde? Hmm. I think there's a small shift in tone.
>>144178384
The change in direction was pretty obvious, no? Have you even watched the show up to that point?
>>144178611
Yes, I watched the whole thing. Maybe just I'm bad at these things, but I still am interested. Might mentioning some of the things I percieved.
>>144178501
Yeah, the first part would do more split screens, color shifts or I also remember there was a scene in which the fram got covered by blood.
>>144179645
Oh, I see what you mean, in the cinematographic sense. I remember those. Plot wise, there's a definite shift that I don't know how much of was either planned ahead of time or a result of different direction. It's probably both.
>>144179820
>he doesn't
>>144179820
It's weird how the people who complain that /a/ doesn't have substantial discussion are the first ones to try and derail any thread intended for such.
>>144178384
I thought that the style remained pretty consistent.
The overall tone does shift, as it sort of did in the manga, about half way through, particularly whenOscar got consumption, but artistically I'm not so certain
>>144180004
Yeah, there's no distinction to be made artistically.
>>144179645
>>144180004
>>144180064
The show's entire visual aesthetic was altered between two episodes. The first Dezaki episode was the one where Oscar, Andre and that adoptive girl were hanging at a meadow or something, riding horses and chilling. It ends with that other girl jumping to her death.
>>144180146
That's what I thought, but I wouldn't say that the art itself changed. The style of direction and tone, but the art was consistent. Unless there's something I'm forgetting.
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>>144180225
Well the faces became way longer after Dezaki started directing.
>>144178384
Is the story of Oscar herself actually plausible. Could a woman possibly gain that kind of position in France at that time?
I don't think I ever got very far in the anime or manga (Because I'm an ADHD infested jackass), but I remember comparing both.
The Anime was SUPER melodramatic while the manga had the same scenes that came off as witty and refined.
>>144178384
So this is the new /dicksoundingofficial/?
>>144182180
Of course, welcome.
OSCAR IS CUTE! CUTE!
>>144181661
Of course not. Unless she was m-me de Pompadour. But mme de Pompadour wasn't really like Oscer, was she? The whole premise, that some codger made his girl behave like a man and everyone just went along and didn't either sic the church on him or ship him right to the French version of Bedlam is just ridiculous. There was Chevalier d'Eon, but that was actually a male, and he was in intelligence work, so he was allowed some liberties.
There was a Russian cavalry officer who was a woman during the Napoleonic Wars, but that was a few centuries down the line.
The difference is that everyone thought that she was a man, and great lengths were gone to by her superiors to keep her gender secret
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadezhda_Durova
>>144183831
>a few centuries down the line
>Napoleonic Wars
actually more like a few decades
RoV sequel manga is set during Napoleonic Wars
>>144178384
I have the Eng DVD and in the extras they have interviews. Dezaki said he believed that it should not entirely be a "kira kira" shoujo story [here they cut to a shot of a early episode young Antoinette with bubbles and sparkles], he said it was a harsh story about politics and these two soldiers (Oscar and Andre). Or something like that. Although the manga was very shoujo.
>>144185953
I can definitely see how that attitude translated into his part of the show. For what it's worth, both of them coexisting in tandem are one of the reasons I like it so much.
I genuinly did not notice any changes. I had no idea about this and never even thought of it.
But being an adaptation, I always atteibuted any dropped plot threads to the mangaka anyway.
>>144183831
Funny thing something like Oscar's situation wouldn't really happen France at the time. They were pretty set in gender roles even in the revolutionary period.
>Can't enjoy this show because it glorifies the revolutionaries who were a bunch of bloody proto-communists
>>144186296
It totally does not.
>>144186296
room_full_of_people_who_care.jpg, you salty royalist crybabby
Also
>glorifies
Did we watch the same show? It either shits on them, as it did on picrelated, or I dunno, is just weird. Drawing Robespierre as some kinda manly big guy? I get it that all the baka gaijins probably seem tall and swole to Japanese people, but still...
It was weird how Oscar gave up on Maria Antoinette. She should've stood by her and tried to whisk her and her family off before shit hit the fan in the first place.
>>144186791
Yes, ultimately I agree with this.
>>144186779
>room_full_of_people_who_care.jpg
You cared enough to respond, you freemason cunt.
>>144186791
>someone cucks you repeatedly and is a generally vapid, autistic cunt who didn't mature past 14 y.o.
>you mature past 14 y.o.
>you give up on them and try to do your own thing
Seems like what a reasonable person would do.
>>144186296
It's the fault of aristocrats for creating that kind of response.
>>144187097
That has nothing to do with her decision.
>>144178384
The BGM timing was improved when Dezaki came on board.
You don't get jarring shifts in the soundtrack in the second half like you did on occasion in the first.
>>144187097
MA being immature is no excuse to leave her to an angry mob that plans on killing her and her family. She betrayed Marie, her father, and her country by assuming the people would be better off under the insane rule of radicals and terrorists.
>>144187771
I don't think Oscar thought that's how it was going to go down, but yeah.
>>144186296
Did we watch the same show?
It's one of the most neutral portrayals of the French Revolution in fiction.
>>144179820
>trying this hard to fit in
lurk for 2 years before posting
>>144187771
She tried to convince her friend to change her ways, she didn't. She gave her a chance and tried to reason with her.
>>144178384
I'm about 17 eps into this and absolutely loving it, but goddamn the direction in dramatic moments is about as subtle as a brick. It's so cheesy and over the top, which is effective (kinda fun too) but I guess it can't help being a bit dated.
>>144185211
Oops, I meant decades,
Doesn't the sequel focus on Rosalie?
