Why does this anime get such little attention? It's the best anime to come out in ages. It's fantastic.
>fujoshit
anon.
Because it's a straight up drama with nothing else going for it, that sort of thing is never going to garner a lot of attention. Also, the mangaka has done mostly (maybe even exclusively) BL in the past, so a lot of people dropped it on pretense of fujoshit. OP of the year though if we go by song only.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_UxWeBT1BY
>>144072013
It did when it was airing.
It was great, but obviously not going to get a lot of attention considering it's a period josei about an obscure Japanese tradition, not a big draw to begin with. And then there's the lack of waifus combined with an emotionally charged relationship between men, making many retards consider it 'fujoshit'.
It was pretty much universally praised by everyone who actually watched as it was airing though.
>>144072013
It's an anime version of Oscar bait or those fancy period dramas on TV like The Knick and The Americans. Made for a tiny audience and for winning awards. Nobody will really remember despite them being well made.
>>144072013
It did tho when it was airing
>>144072013
If this had aired 15 years ago,it'd be praised as one of the greatest anime ever. But Otaku are cancer and they'd rather watch a 15 year old girls magic high-school adventures.
This was routinely cited for AotS while it was airing, and I'm sure that will resume when season 2 comes on.
>>144072602
It's goin to be AOTY easily.
What a cancerous thread. Nothing but a sad circlejerk
>>144072013
Because it isn't good at all, extremely boring and uninteresting, it's your typical melodramatic josei, with a terribly boring plot. It failed to entertain making one of the worst shows to air.
Half the people calling it good didn't even watch the whole thing, and it's filled with shit story telling and missed opportunities.
This show isn't good at all what so ever in the slightest, it just "looks" good, but it's actually quite terrible.
>>144072013
Did it sell well to the Fujoshits?
>>144072644
>People agree
>Circlejerk
>>144072685
>echo chamber
>not a circlejerk
Anon.
>>144072644
This is not Reddit anon
>>144072679
I agree, I like Josei from time to time but I was honestly in it for this stupid delinquent kid getting his shit straight. But I got a submissive nerd and bara gay flashback that spanned numerous of episodes.
>>144072314
this
>mfw the reveal about theunreliable narrationis going to be animated
>>144072013
Honest, no bullshit answer? Because to the majority of anime watchers it is boring. I'm not trying to be a smartass, that's just the way I see it.
It got little attention because it doesn't have mass appeal, plain and simple. Plus it kind of looks fujo-y. Maybe it'll get recognition in elitist circles overtime and people will fap over how intelligent they are for liking it.
Daughter is a slut just like her mom.
>>144072863
>continuing your father's precious bloodline at any cost
>slutty
>>144072876
>fucking some old dirty Yazuka fuck as a mistress and getting pregnant out of wedlock
Absolutely slutty.
>>144072683
No. Fujoshit is more interested in fujo dogs and boku no pico academia
Does anyone know how many chapters season one covered? I'd be nice if we got the entire manga adapted.
>>144072813
To the majority of people it's boring, because it is.
There was a single some what inttresting Idea in the entire show, and it was poorly executed "the whole protagonist was a criminal"
I instantly thought "okay, this could be good what is he in for? Do we get to see his growth to becoming straight?"
They killed anything that could have possibly be interesting about that in about 5 minutes. Quite literally shit.
>>144072627
Doubtful, but I guess it depends on how good the rest of the show goes.
>>144073344
But that's not true, the majority of people who actually watched it thought it was great. It was a surprise because most people didn't know what the fuck rakugo is letalone expect it to be an AOTS contender. Most people didn't even pick it up under the assumption that it will be boring.
>>144073344
Yotaro is not the protagonist.
>>144072013
If anything it gets too much already.
>>144072013
Jesus Christ, you people are so annoying, every fucking time I see this anime mentioned it's because "IT'S THE BEST THING EVER WHY DON'T PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IT CONSTANTLY." Just give it a rest, it wasn't even that good.
>>144073322
As far as I'm aware the first cour covered the first half of the manga, so the second will probably take it to the conclusion.
>>144073447
Wow you are so enlightened
>>144073422
And that's the issue. A delinquent getting his shit straight in the weirdest fashion with a strict mentor had a lot of potential. But you get a flashback that was your typical 2 n-no homo dude josei shit. The fucking author couldn't stop writing BL shit for one second.
>>144072013
Well it's not something that has wide-spread acclaim but most people who've watched it recognize how good it is and it seems like it's a lot of /a/'s AOTY so far. I think it's fantastic too but there's not a whole lot to talk about.
>>144073486
Please faggot, I bet you're one of the people who'd shit on people calling Re:Zero the best anime. Aren't you enlightened? Fuck you.
>>144073486
Getting tired of people bitching for months about how underappreciated their anime is doesn't mean I think I'm enlightened, anon, it just means they've harped on about it far too frequently for far too long.
>>144073538
Sounds like it wasn't your cup of tea anon. Not every story has to cover the settings and themes you like to be good.
>>144072013
It was decent but holy shit those last few episodes made me drop my enjoyment of the show a lot.
>It's the best anime to come out in ages
You're giving it too much credit for what it is. It was the best of the season though.
>>144073447
maybe this happens every time its mentioned because its actually quite good.
>>144073556
>>144073559
Keep layin' that truth on me, brothers
Two dads episode was best episode
>>144072013
It got enough attention while it was airing. Pretty much anyone who watched it thought it was good. I personally can't wait for the second season.
>>144073615
And? If it's good then just agree on that already. You don't need a thread every week informing people that it's good and complaining that not enough people acknowledge that.
>>144073696
Ping pong had a better fanbase than this.
>>144072013
>It's the best anime to come out in ages
Watch more anime.
>>144073720
But he can't, do you expect him to stoop to the level of watching things that aren't mature character dramas?
>>144073696
>right a few people decided something once, best stop that now
i guess we have stop talking about all of our opinions on any anime that has been discussed before, i understand now- thanks anon
>>144073791
Yeah, let's ask questions that have already been asked many times recently about why people don't talk about this highly regarded show enough. That's a great idea, really quality posting there.
>>144073781
>But he can't
Well then how is anyone supposed to take his opinion seriously?
Besides the point, it was plenty discussed when it aired OP. At least bother to watch a show as it airs if you're that starved for discussion on it.
>>144073720
Such as? Quality-wise, nothing has approached Shouwa Genroku in a while.
>>144073876
inb4 Re:Zero or some shite
>>144073876
Not him but Shirobako was the last series I can think of.
>>144073844
It's the hipster version of mature anime for mature people like me. They just want to circlejerk about it. And they think they're better than shit like SnK. But the OP made a shitty thread so I can't blame him. I like Tatami Galaxy, but it's a well known rule that if you want talk about hipster garbage, you should never call it great. Because you'll look like a dumbass. Especially all of the posters here who think that it's the no good show has been released in the last 5 years. What the hell are you even doing here.
Should've been a live action.
>>144073844
im sorry we dont ask the questions you want anon, we'll just all have to remember how much this repeated posting hurts your feelings next time.
>>144073876
Being serious doesn't it make it AOTS, anon.
rakugo is a shitty niche that's why.
>>144073876
Pandora
>>144072644
By virtue of your presence, it is not. Thank you for your benevolence.
>>144072644
Time to update the list with
>if it's a thread where people like a thing I don't, it's a circlejerk.
>>144074159
It isn't good because it's serious, it's good thanks to brilliant characterization, great atmosphere and an interesting story. I like less serious things as well, but they have to be well-crafted.
>>144073934
I really have to watch this one, it's been on my list since forever. Maybe after I finish Saiunkoku Monogatari.
>>144073876
Fafner Exodus is top tier and my personal AOTY but you need to watch the 2004 series and the movie to appreciate the characters.
Or you can watch the OVA Right or Left to get a grasp on the general mood of the series and see if you like it.
>>144072013
>Why does this anime get such little attention?
You must be new. It got plenty of attention during its airing.
But a ton of people said it was AOTS when it aired. /a/ just naturally focuses discussion on current shows unless the show in question has a general.
>>144074907
I'm sure he just means relative to other, less worthy but more popular shows.
>>144073876
Eupho and a handful of shows from 2014 were as good or better, I'd say. Plus hurray for Mob Psycho.
Its a great show and the most memorable one i've seen for a while but wait till season 2 airs to circlejerk it, we don't know how it will end so don't say things prematurely.
>>144074656
And the voice acting too. I've always known that Ishida Akira is great, but seeing his performance in this was phenomenal. I'm excited to see how well Kobyashi Yuu will perform in the sequel.
Rakugo is the most oscar-bait anime I have seen.
Maybe because there was nothing to talk about.
>>144075301
What do you think Oscar bait means and how does it apply to Rakugo?
>>144075301
Stick around for the Koe no Katachi movie first.
>>144072013
God you guys have shit fucking taste, this show was good.
>>144072747
S2 will focus on him
>>144073322
5 volumes IIRC, there are 10 in total, manga is ending soon
>>144072013
Who cares, and why does it matter.
People either love or hate this show for whatever reason. Retards call it fujoshit, and retards also call it the best anime in the past 20 years.
So far for me It's aots unless Amanchu pulls through.
>>144072013
Because it ended ages ago. You should have watched it along with everybody else here if you wanted to discuss it.
>>144075301
Have you not seen Momo he no Tegami and all of the other anime films about tomboyish looking girls in the boonies?
>>144073720
It's a legit opinion even if he watched a lot though.
There might be something you personally prefer but that doesn't mean he either hasn't watched it or is simply wrong about liking this more.
But it's already the agreed AOTY, What more do you want to talk about?
Just waiting for S2 now.
>>144073934
>Shirobako
>implying anime with a high school setting can be good
wew lad
>>144076199
Did you drop shirobako after the first episode? The high school intro was just a framing for the girl's motivations.
>>144076199
Why do you insist on shitposting?
>>144076044
>muh opinion is the consensus
Just kill yourself already.
>>144076220
>after the first episode
It's literally just the scene before the OP. He has to be baiting.
>>144076220
>Did you drop shirobako after the first episode?
Yes. If the first episode doesn't impress, I stop watching. It's called having standards.
>>144076324
>If the first episode doesn't impress, I stop watching. It's called having standards.
>>144072013
Best cuck show of the year
Yeah Rakugo was amazing. Good animation, great characters, godly pacing
>>144072013
Because it was boring fujoshi stuff.
Great ass though.
>>144076324
digi pls go and stay go
>>144072137
Nothing else? They performed art
>>144076324
kill yourself
>>144073414
That's because a lot of pseudo intellectuals forced themselves through it, it's boring and forgettable, that's why no one cares about it.
The most unforgivable flaw a show could possible have is being boring, and this shit has flying colors in that category,
It's also pretty pretentious with the whole rakugo shit, and the melodrama isn't even interesting, and the ending was a fucking mess.
>>144075679
Visual direction, theater premise, dialogue presentation, absence of excessive humor and kid melodrama, natural progression of plot while keeping the mood intact,adults actually behaving like adults. No over pretentious psychological mindfuck.
Miss Hokusai probably come close to it in terms of Oscar baiting.
>>144076748
>the ending was a fucking mess.
Protip: unreliable narrators
>>144073615
No that's a meme, this show isn't good at all.
The Art and Animation is below average.
The characters are boring and uninteresting.
The rakugo never hits home.
The drama isn't even good.
The sound track forgettable(nice op but that's it)
Like, i see you people pretending this was good just because of the "mature premise", but please enlighten me, what was actually good about this?
>>144075716
School setting. Already discarded.
![[HorribleSubs] Lupin III (2015) - 23 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.46_[2016.03.10_15.18.22].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ypsBCon.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Lupin III (2015) - 23 [720p].mkv_snapshot_10.46_[2016.03.10_15.18.22].jpg")
>>144076748
I really don't get the boring complaint I was on the edge of my seat most of the time, then again I enjoyed Mouryou no Hako as well so maybe I just have a higher tolerance for shower shows.
>>144076748
>I thought it was boring so everyone else must have thought the same
>>144074656
The characterization isn't a cut above below average, there is literally nothing interesting about this characrers.
It's literally naruto and sasuke minus the age and cartoony shit, it's the generic, calm, serious bland guy and his retarded outspoken funny counter part.
There's nothing to their character beyond that.
The atmosphere isn't particularly potent either, erased had a much more interesting atmosphere.
There is literally nothing interesting about the story, it was just a buy the numbers, predicatable as can be come up story.
Serious guy, not serious guy both do a thing.
Not serious guy is better at the thing.
Love triangle.
Not serious guy gets fucked over, serious guy pities him.
The overdramatic and out of nowhere ending was literally comedy of the year tier, i don't even remember that hoes name, the only thing to her character is that she's an obssessive slut, her romantic interest in bon isn't even justfified it just comes off as contrived, overall poorly written,
The best part of this show was how ww2 effected there lives, it was an oppurtunity for some really heart wrenching immersive story telling, but it's ruined with boring old man dialogue totally water down any and all drama, and a shitty time skip sequence simply explaining all that happened instead of showing us.
Old man narration actually made this show a lot more boring then it could have been looking back.
Anyways, this meme needs to died Rakugo was shit. That's why no one watched it, except for me because i was expecting something.
>>144077079
>erased had a much more interesting atmosphere.
Are you 12?
>>144077079
>The overdramatic and out of nowhere ending
Yakumo was lying about what happened you idiot, read the manga
>>144077058
>I thought it was boring and actually watched the whole thing, excpecting something good.
>Everyone else was smart enough to just look a the art and instantly know it was boring so they didn't even watch past the 1st episode.
Yeah, i'm dumb.
>>144077091
Just stating the fact senpai-pie, that's why you watched it too completion, it too had a pretty boring looking art style, but it had an actually interesting plot, which is why you watched it ever single week.
>>144077126
wtf are you talking about
If you are talking about me then yes I did watch everything but not once I thought it was boring
stop projecting
>>144077119
I know it's a lie, doesn't change the fact that everything that happened was so overblown.
And to top it off the real version is even more overly dramatic, not as funny I admit but it's not like it matters.
>>144077247
I'm talking about why no one watched besides us.
>>144076756
Not that any of those descriptors are particularly wrong, they just don't fit the definition of "Oscar bait."
Rakugo would be Oscar bait if it:
- had a lead character with some disability
- were set to a famous or tragic event
- was meant to evoke cheap sympathy
- had an all star cast (granted)
Rakugo is way too niche. It's just a good show made for the love of the source material and the art itself.
>>144077343
Saying this as someone who thought Rakugo was fantastic, one of the primary characters was disabled and it was set during a tragic event.It's still most likely AOTY
>>144076370
>Cuck
>He wasn't in a relationship with her or interested in her
>>144077299
It wasn't popular because it didn't have any otaku bait
I guess people would find it boring because of that but the art doesn't have anything to do with it
>>144076748
If some standard jidai gekki drama that never pretends to be anything more is considered something for pseudo intellectuals to you, then I'm afraid it speaks more about you being a retard. Sorry, it's true. Nobody thinks this is some super sophisticated show. It's just a simple drama with a backdrop of old Japanese culture that happens to be done well.
>It's also pretty pretentious with the whole rakugo shit
Wow, if some traditional performance that is historically enjoyed by common folks is pretentious to you, then you're practically a bigger pleb than even the most stereotypical of red necks. No, even rednecks are more cultured then you since western folk songs (which is also another common folks like) would be too posh for you.
>>144077299
Yeah, all those nips only bought the BDs and manga to put it on display. Totally didn't watch. Oh and all those people in other anime communities like MAL etc only rated it highly to pretend to be Elitist. they totally didn't watch it either.
It's hilarious how you retards can't even come up with a proper articulate criticism on why the show is bad.
>>144077079
>erased had a much more interesting atmosphere.
You do realize it was children pornography awareness propaganda?
>>144077389
I guess so, but like it wasn't "about" the war or Kiku's limp right? I guess there's varying degrees of baitiness though. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with any of these qualities, just talking definitions.
>>144076748
>It's also pretty pretentious with the whole rakugo shit
How?
>>144077391
You know those 'Nice Guys' who got mad that somehow girls don't instantly have sex with them just because they're being nice to them? The sort who thinks that they're owed sex for being 'nice', aka decent human beings? There's your answer.
>>144076242
But I'm the only one who agreed to that many others did.
You won't find a better story telling show this year than Rakugo.
>>144077673
not the only one*
>>144072013
It's okay. But honestly, despite the lingering interest I've had in rakugo, it just barely scrapes the upper echelons of the joseishit spectrum. I've found shows like Nodame or Honey&Clover to be more compelling.
Maybe Nana. Maybe Paradise Kiss. Maybe Chihayafuru.
Definitely not Apollon. Usagi Drop to some degree.
And that's just some of the josei's that got adaptations.
>>144072013
Rakugo was great. A solid 8/10 anime. But not phenomenal. The ending felt a little rushed.
All I really hope for in Fall is for more rakugo sequences, those were the best part of the show. I rewatched Yotarou's performance in episode 1 like constantly during Winter.
>>144077673
>But I'm not the only one who agreed to that many others did.
And many others wouldn't. AOTY isn't an official title granted by the hivemind of /a/.
You're a fagoot either way for wanting validation by majority opinion.
>>144077832
>H&C
Literally forced drama. It was even worse with that shit than Rakugo.
What animu
I see people calling Rakugo "pretentious" constantly. Can someone explain why? Do they not understand what the word actually means and use it whenever there's a serious anime they don't like?
![[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.58_[2016.04.02_19.36.22].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yJrNuxg.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu - 13 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.58_[2016.04.02_19.36.22].jpg")
Literally My Wife's Son: The Anime
>>144078072
Calling anime pretentious is a criticism I can't take seriously.
Most of the time the person doesn't even explain why they find it pretentious to begin with.
>>144078072
Generally if you watch this show and have no concept of Japanese traditional art and culture, as well as their social structure you'll be completely lost by like the third episode. Rakugo sequences also need the viewer to be somewhat familiar with how the language works and not just mindlessly read subtitles, otherwise they'll be confused as to why this joke was funny or what the fuck that story was all about. So its pretty much required for you to be familiar enough with Japan and their post-war period.
>>144078275
You're the one being pretentious, if anything.
The story is super easy to grasp and every bit of cultural knowledge is easy to pick up from context.
I don't know a lick of Japanese and I got a ton out of the performances.
>>144078776
You underestimate the average viewer
>>144078275
That applies to SZS aswell but we saw yesterday that it is very popular.
>>144078828
Still, your "you must be THIS smart to watch this show" is what gives it/its viewers a bad rep.
>>144072013
There's a vast amount of underage posters on /a/ judging by the Re Zero threads, but I definitely think that Rakugo had a good share of attention.
It's not airing + it's a drama so there's nothing really to discuss because everything kind of laid out
Its an incredible show, so there are very little shitposting.
Thats how everything works on /a/.
Nothing like threads like these to show just how abominably stupid and bad the taste of /a/ is.
>t-there was barely any hype, therefore it has to be shit!
>material attempting to deal with drama? by god the pretension!
>>144072013
>why doesn't this anime get circlejerks that last months on end
is how I interpreted your question. And the answer to that is simply because it's retarded and cancerous no matter how good you think the show is.
>>144077984
Only the 2nd season. The 1st one is more of a coming-of-age story set in college. Not that anon but I also prefer a lighthearted or quirky approach when I want to watch mature anime for mature people like me.
But I admit the art turns me off to this show.
