Drawfag Thread 1824
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Thread 1823 >>143966927
Requesting Hikage kindly hugging Mirai from the back. Hikage cares a lot for Mirai, but not in a romantic way, and she doesn't have emotions so a subtle blush is more than enough, but Mirai can be very flustered.
Requesting Keiji pulling Kanetsugu's leash back as she pounds Kanetsugu's ass through her ass window with a strap-on. Loud moans of "Wan, Wan" are escaping Kanetsugu's mouth in the process.
Requesting pov things with her, like cuddling with her, taking cozy naps. Eating her cooking, drinking alcohol with her.
The idea of nyotaimori doesn't sound bad.
As well as >>143795042
Requesting Rem and Ram barefoot grape stomping for some wine together.
Requesting Minoru using his grapes to build a huge dick made out of balls on his crotch.
Requesting Ichigo having cake and tea.
Karas fighting Garo, in a city at night, or teaming up to cleanse the foul demon scum from the streets.
Requesting the Aquarions, lead by Logos (sword wielder) fighting against the Ryvius and Vital Guarder in an apocalyptic showdown.
Requesting Guts snowboarding on his Dragonslayer while shooting at snowboarding and skiing monsters trying to get him. Bonus point if you put Pak posing at Guts feet like he was the one doing the tricks.
>>144057548
>pi
>neechan tier
eh i'd still install my gentoo in her
>>144057811
Requesting Ichigo x Ichigo
Requesting top waifu Nui-Nui sad her phone is broken,
drawn in a classic Shojo
Or winking at me.
Requesting Rias hugging the loli from the "free art" 4koma in a comforting motherly way. Outfit is up to the artist preference; if any further references are needed, please let me know. Thank you in advance!
Requesting Skarbrand and Ein Graze doing something manly and cool. Like lumberjacking.
>>144057975
Do not lewd the tiny computer.
Requesting Akasa (left) telling a beaten Wing Zero (right) "You honestly thought you could beat me?" with him replying "But the Godzilla fans said I could!" Bonus points if Akasa has a rage dad face.
Requesting a chibi Mitsuba.
Requesting a Gyate-kora drawing of Raphtalia(bottom) and firo(top)
Gyate-kora example: http://imgur.com/efvgi6b
Requesting drawfags draw their favorite Zetsubou in honor of the seven years laugher
Requesting Mato Kuroi from BRS(OVA) doing a Gamebreaker 2 dunk from the planet's atmosphere! With black and white trails of stars as she hurtles towards the planet like an asteroid ready to impact!
GB2 reference:
https://youtu.be/kedZBLfogU0?t=152
Thanks if you pick this up!
Requesting Yuki from Gakkou Gurashi (or any/all the girls) doing and wearing dumb Dead Rising stuff
Requesting Niekawa and Anri from the Durarara!! series being together such as symmetrical docking
Requesting something cute of Rukia and a Breloom
We did a dumb thing on /sgg/, so can we get Maria in a tight black catsuit that can't be zipped up at all?
One or both of them as nude catgirl(s) sneaking around the office or city at night.
Requesting lineart (and maybe color) on this image, please.
Reference: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2137244
Requesting Bouya Harumichi riding on a giant crow - Tony would be best - with Yasu freaking out behind him.
Requesting Shizuku riding a cow.
Requesting Cyan taking a large dick or dildo in her ass while drooling from the insertion.
>>144059372
A male one, yes?
>>144059613
But she's the one with the large dick, anon.
Rossweise topless handbra or black X tape over her nipples like that one loli in DxD has.
>>144059761
You mean Ophis?
>>144059613
Make it Retoree's dick
>>144059634
No anon, male cows are called "Bulls".
>>144059838
Yes thank you I forgot her name.
>>144059867
Well that's just you call a male bovine. I loved the doujin where she births a calf. Great stuff.
Requesting Seras Victoria walking the streets on Halloween night and dressed as a cute witch.I know it's a little early for Halloween, but still
A picture of Tamamo like this but with even bigger breasts, a large Kimono/emperor robe would be cool, and sarashi + fundoshi and/or her also lying on a bed seductively luring the viewer
Requesting more source and adaptation versions of girls together
Rokuro from Sousei no Onmyouji wearing this outfit on the left
>>144057548
Requesting a busty milkmaid Demon with short fanned out hair.Anchoring for the fellow that took interest.
Requesting Anzu-taro with Star Kirari as her 「Stand」
>>144060858
>short fanned out hair.
Dropped.
Requesting Mikasa using an open outhouse in full view of the other recruits but not caring.
Requesting Cornelia li Britannia wearing the outfit on the right. Reference source is Mon-Mon.
Requesting colors for these chibis of Hotaru, Anna, and Tejina
Requesting Leone (the blonde one) in her normal form (short hair) giving Akame (the dark haired one) a cute short haircut, complete with a cape/mantle.
Requesting Ochako gertting virginia smashed by Deku in her hero suit
Requesting something similar to the "Doctor Donovan" edit, instead with this Eel girl from Monster Musume, giving an extra-soothing massage to a shota, or Darling.
Silly, lewd, or creepy, either's fine. But silly is preferred.
Requesting a salamander with black shorts and a T-shirt with either the logo or flag
hopefully I can get this before the 13th
Drawfigs, what do have to help keep you in the drawing mood?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2lwFiIaMAE&list=PL8DDD2D047A076DC8 + coffee
>>144063347
Heroin
>>144063347
Music. Cute girls.
Requesting Amanogawa Kirara from Princess Precure wearing Raidy's "armor".
Requesting Tachibana Kanade in comfy winter clothing.
>>144063347
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhDvQIqEkuI
Drawing girls with cat mimis & tails helps my mood.
Requesting Maki with her feet as big as the girl's in the picture on the right.
Requesting Nancy Lee from Ninja Slayer getting fucked hard by Laomoto Khan.
Requesting Tejina dressed as Dark Magician Girl being cutelewd.
Requesting Hibiki and Ren as barefooted dancers, dancing lewdly together in the moonlight
>>144065531
>ankle jewelry,toe rings, and thigh ring
Aww man, das it mane!
Requesting a front crotch view of under Aqua's skirt
Also requesting Ryuujou, from Kancolle, having (and enjoying) anal sex.
Buenas noches!
>>144057548
Requesting Debian-tan.
Requesting Karen Araragi wearing Garen's armor and shouting JUSTICE, weapon optional
I'm requesting this because of how similar their names are and the fact that they share a passion for justice
How can I get TegakiDraw brush-like settings in Photoshop?
>>144068233
pencil tool
>>144057548
Requesting Lewds of Raspberrypi-tan
Speaking of brushes, all brushes I tried using in photoshop are fuzzy as fuck on smaller sizes, like 2px. I'm trying to edit a swf file's spritesheet so I can't really enlarge the image and am forced to use such small brush sizes, any ideas on how to make my lines sharper?
>>144068347
Thanks anon
Requesting Nagisa as Yako's partner in a Home Ec class.
>>143977193
Re-requesting.
Requesting THICC titty monster Patchouli wearing a clothing that can barely contain her breasts.
>>144070530
I don't like doing edits, but that image refused to leave my mind until I changed it.
>>144071371
Holy shit, that looks amazing! Thank you!
>>144066063
:^)
Requesting Wo wearing a plugsuit or having it draped over her hat, not knowing how to put it on.
requesting Vert, Noire, and Blanc as honey-bees like this.
Requesting Maho, Miho and Erika from GuP in a pic like pic related.
Maho in the middle.
Requesting (from Owari no Seraph) Shinoa Hīragi and Mitsuba Sangū wearing skimpier and sexier versions of their battle uniforms, please.
Requesting Houki dressed as Faust
Requesting the original artist who drew this to have my Ashitaka/ Haku request to have this finished, cleaned up and colorized please!
>>144063264
Sorry that it's already the thirteenth in Fiji, Kamchatka, Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Nauru, New Zealand, Samoa, Tonga, Tuvalu, and Wallis and Futuna
Requesting any 2 Aquours girls of your choice licking each other's navels in these outfits.
Requesting a color of this, thank you.
Color ref:https://my.mixtape.moe/lkvpxi.jpg
>>144074432
Those are all non-countries.
>t. New Zealand.
Requesting sexually suggestive Dimaria bullying Brandish, both from Fairy Tail. Thank you.
>>144074432
Thanks man, I really appreciate it.
>>144072163
muh
Requesting Hisoka bullying Macchi with a full nelson like in the reference, exposing her bike shorts/spats completely.
>>144073202
This is great
>>144070877
haven't drawn in a while
can some one line art this,shindoL'sstyle
Sorry for blogfagging, can I request some critique? I feel like I've stopped progressing and I don't know where to go from here. I spent hours on this and I'm actually completely depressed because it's no better than what I drew last.
http://i.imgur.com/jKMWe3n.png
>>144078228
Just keep drawing. You won't see much improvement from drawing to drawing. You'll only see what seems to be them being worse and worse. This is because you're getting better and better, believe it or not. You're actually seeing more errors which can be somewhat depressing, but just keep drawing. It's a natural phasethat we never escape.
I wouldn't bother with specific critiques really, there's some obvious issues but I think the biggest is a simple lack of having drawn/painted enough.
Do some studies. They really do make you a better artist.
>>144078228get your anatomy and proportions right, use real life reference instead of using anime related stuff for ref.
>>144078228
Instead of making "finished" pieces, try just sketching out figures and anatomy frequently so you get a good grasp of proportions and perspective.
>>144078492
>>144078480
>>144078468
Thank you. I'm going to whore out gestural drawings then.
>>144057930
>Pak posing
stupid sexy puck
>>144078101
Nice dude! You got what i want , teasing her muffintop!
>>144078228
There was an imgur album with a bunch of art tutorial stuff in animu style from some guy in /ic/ I think and one of them shows proportions. I don't have it bookmarked anymore because new computer but if anyone knows what I'm talking about, could they link it?
There's also a page in Loomis' Figure drawing book which gives male and female proportions but it's a little off because it uses 8 head units and animu girls will tend to use 6-7 I think.
Requesting Astolfo getting /ss/'d by his fem-pimp >>144049705
>>144079187
Learn real anatomy first. It's easier to learn and makes it look better when you do anime/cartoon proportions.
Realism drawing is much easier because it's something you can see. You can look at a human face and copy it. For anime it's not something that's actually in this world so you're copying someone else work at that point. You learn the real stuff so that you can learn how to bend the rules on your own.
>>144079279
>For anime it's not something that's actually in this world so you're copying someone else work at that point.
Well, I don't know if that's the best way to put it. Anime is just a simple, stylistic representation of real life. In order to properly distort life, you have to understand it.
>>144079429
Yeah that sounds better.
Requesting futa Yui.
>>144072970
You can draw some delightfully fluffy hair ddd, and I thank you in that regard.
The black sclera also gives her an intimidating look.
Requesting Leroute showing off her body or just some lewds.
>>144078101
Patchy needs to be bullied for being so fat.
Finally done with setting a paypal account and commission sheet with prices, hope it will be fine.
>>144080402
>furry
>futa furries
>scat
>handholding
>furries in diapers
>plz gib art, pay you in wow gold
>>144080402
I think I know who you are, and I'll commission you soon. Maybe at the end of the month.
>>144080402
Than you for telling us who you are as though you will automatically be relevant for no reason at all.
>>144080532
Mentioned I won't do furry and that I'll probably refuse too weird fetishes, and payment is only with Paypal, should be fine for those I guess.
>>144080557You do? Would appreciate
>>144080677
WHO ARE YOU
>>144080701Smurf
>>144080725
WHERE'S THE INFO
Requesting Misaki like this,
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2748292
looking utterly exhausted yet satisfied with heart pupils, with cum pouring out of both her holes and her fat ass red from being spanked while she was used. Stockings still on.
>>144080742
Put it on my blogs, should be hard to miss.
>>144080677
>>144080725
Yep, knew it. Around the last week in July I should have enough to pay off everything I need to and commission you, so don't close until then.
>>144080802
Smurf, Jesus Christ you're going to be left on the floor with ahegao with those prices, bro. I will also commission you soon my boi.
Requesting Kyousuke as Zack Ryder (left) with an Onii-chan Championship title and Kirino as Emma (right) like pic related
Keep the outfits and expressions please
references
Kyousuke: http://i.imgur.com/G0MTbIR.jpg
Kirino: http://i.imgur.com/e3oXapD.jpg
>>144080725
Could you actually post blog?
>>144081219
Literally just google his name.
>>144081271
Google smurf you dumbass and see what you get, it ain't an artist, I tell you what.
>>144081469
TheGoldenSmurf, you retarded newfag cock sucker.
Smurf's style doesn't appeal me that enough to pay that much honestly
>>144081761
The only thing I don't like from him at all is his ugly and awful coloring. When he eventually learns to stop using that ugly shading color and start shading with good colors I'd pay for that. But his lineart is pretty decent.
>>144080802
>>144080402
Any samples that aren't fucking OPM imitations?
I'd open commissions but no one wants to pay what I would charge. The real world prices would be too much.
>>144082136
It all depends on how pretty you can make my waifu look. Show me some work
>>144080402
>can do NSFW. But most probably not too weird fetishes
So how lewd are you willing to go? Let's say I want a girl anally raped by a faceless male or floating cock or whatever, you in for it?
>>144082136
I'd pay anything if your art is worth it. If you're afraid nobody would pay your "real" prices then your art probably isn't up to par.
I want to piss off my waifu. And I don't mean "huerr durrrp use super powers that will kill me instantly mad" I mean the kind of mad where she has that "Look" face on her telling me that I'm a problem and need to shape up and become what I used to be or else the next time I come home/ wake up she'll be gone for good.
>>144082246
That pretty tame, "weird fetishes" is more for stuffs like scat and diapers.
I'd be fine with basic stuffs and fetishes I like.Like Big/huge dick, futa, large insertion, inflation
>>144082480how about dogs
>>144082664
Any bestiality is a-no.
>>144082136
Show your work
>>144082462
If your waifu ever thought about leaving you with anything but tears in her eyes, you're either an irredeemable scumbag or she never loved you.
>doing porn commissions
It's like you want your PayPal account frozen
>>144083289
Just because you saw a shitpost on tumblr doesn't suddenly mean they were telling the truth.
>>144083289
They literally don't know that you're drawing or selling porn unless you explicitly make it known.
>>144083289
Unless you make a payment request titled "FOR PORN" or the payer puts in the notes "FOR PORN" there's no way for them to tell.
>>144080402
Make sure you have a bank account linked or you can't receive money
>>144083605
This isn't true either. I've never linked either of my PayPal accounts to a bank account or credit card.
Is this thread just misinformation?
>>144083647
So do you just not put your money in a bank and keep it all on Paypal?
>>144083603
>>144083318
>>144083433
Why take the risk
You could end up with a client that's dumb or pissed at you and get screwed over
>>144083647
>Is this thread just misinformation?
some people for some reason don't like the idea of artists getting paid for their services
>>144083701
Because it's easy, the guy will just never get his commission in that case.
>>144083647
This is a thread about obtaining art for free. Some people here really take this to the extreme.
>>144083683
That's what I do. I keep just enough to pay people and nothing more.
>>144083701
Because it's still not true and you still don't get your account frozen for porn. This is as dumb as the people spreading the shit that if you accept payment under Gift rather than through an invoice or Payment for Goods or Services that they'll suddenly freeze your account or fine you a ridiculous sum.
>>144083869
Oh okay, most people who use paypal want that money in their bank account which is probably why that anon said that. Because most people who take commissions do so for money making.
http://demonicvibrations.tumblr.com/post/146386138937/paypals-new-honeypot-scheme-for-adult-content
Fuck you for making me actually have to look for this old-ass post. I can't believe I spent time on this.
>>144084107
If this was true, Patreon would not have gotten fucked over by PayPal because of all the Adult patreons.
They were literally forced to disable paypal instantly for lewd shit when paypal got word of it.
>>144083289
Why do you have to say its porn? Can't you just say "Commission"
Every time. Every fucking time. This place and any mention of commissions.
>>144084438
Of course you can, anon is just an idiot.
>>144084467
We didn't get into 'lowballing all the artists' episode yet
>>144084822
Not like you need to. If you know where to look you can get artists that do twice the amount of work most drawfags do for half the price and no I will not share any of said artists.
>>144084905
>and no I will not share any of said artists.
Can you tell us which sites at least
>>144084951
No
I'm not ending up in a queue because you all decide to bumrush them with cheap commissions until they wind up either swamped or raising the prices
>>144084822
If they're dumb enough to fall for it, then sure but like that other guy said there's cheaper options. The one linked inDiscordwas doing full renders for $50
Just look for foreign artists on dA, most of them don't know proper conversion rates because their money is a lot when converted from American Dollars/Euros/etc.
You'll find a lot of Malaysian artists with incredible skill but are young and not yet knowledgeable and are in it for money.
>>144085062
>discord
No invite to the sekret club
>>144085062
>discircle sharing cheapo artists
Reee
>>144085062
>Discord
Why do you shill this circlejerk so hard?
>>144072970
Still need to work on faces but otherwise Its pretty good.
>>144085712
It's fun to watch how ridiculous things get there.
>>144086626
How ridiculous?
>>144086626
What?
Dirty waifus drawn dirt cheap!
>>144086694
Stuff like that is fine outside of 4chan, anon. The reason it's frowned upon here is that this is an image board, so they are unnecessary.
>>144086694
Don't use emotions on /a/, you cancer.
>>144086694
I hope it's ironic
>>144086743
>Stuff like that is fine
no.
>>144086694
>:hugs:
>^_^
Leave.
>>144086694
sorry you must be lonely
:hugs:
>>144086743
I hope you're fresh off the boat new.
>>144086754
>>144086810
Trying to be funny, or missed the point?
>>144086850
Missed the point that apparently the discord is filled fags fresh from tumblr? No I got the point quite clearly
>>144086770
That's just as bad.
>>144086850
Just stop posting emoticons and actions, fag.
>>144086743
Hello fellow deviantartist
How do you do
>>144086938
That doesn't answer my question, so I guess it's both.
>>144087016
Was there even a point to get? You don't get to act superior posting a vague as fuck question while defending emotions of all things. Go back to whatever shithole you came from
>>144087090
He came from the Discord
To complain about the Discord anonymously
Because if he did it in there everyone would know who the faggot that keeps bringing up the Discord on /a/ is
>>144086912
It's not surprising really, even the drawthreads themselves have been filled with tumblr for quite a while, because tumblr is where artists gather these days. Naturally those people don't stay unaffected by tumblr culture. They're easily spotted, for instance by their habit of using the singular they, because they're afraid of "misgendering" girls on the interwebs. It won't be long and they'll try to get rid of the -fag suffix for being homophobic, mark my words. Such is the face of neo-/a/.
>>144087090
He posted them to give an example of what goes on in the discord. Are you fucking retarded?
>>144087090
Not sure where to start correcting, so I won't bother.
>>144087145
Its owner is the one who keeps bringing it up.
>>144087192
I havn't seen emoticons on the discord besides that one ironic one
>>144087145
Free drawings and identities make an interesting mess.
>>144087182
>It won't be long and they'll try to get rid of the -fag suffix
This is already happening unfortunately. Skipping over the more frequently used -bro tag, "[waifu] requester" is being used a lot, as that -fag is seen as a negative thing.
Who the fuck cares about emoticons on discord. Do you complain about teenage girls texting with emoticons too?
>>144087353
Teenagers aren't allowed on 4chan m8
>>144087353
Fuck off underage b&
>>144087182
>, because tumblr is where artists gather these days.
Please no
Dumping art on tumblr doesn't mean you gather on tumblr
>>144087435
You people keep repeating this, but there's no denying that several drawfags and requesters have active tumblr accounts and actually interact with the community over there.
>>144087497
Many people have admitted that they only come to 4chan for the drawthreads.
>>144087497
>several
nice statistic faggot
>>144087577
Yes I know and it disgusts me. It's wonder to me why 4chan seems to have gone to hell in such a short period of time
>>144087497
List them.
>>144087660
LIST?!
>>144087660
Sure why the fuck not. A small sample
https://riasfag.tumblr.com/
http://auderedraws.tumblr.com/
http://bupiti.tumblr.com/
http://apmax.tumblr.com/
http://noccu.tumblr.com/
http://etna-mode.tumblr.com/
http://hexunart.tumblr.com/
http://lunaismaiwaifu.tumblr.com/
http://koborifag.tumblr.com/
http://anastasiafag.tumblr.com/
http://kusugu.tumblr.com/
Some of these might even be open for commissions, so you're welcome.
>>144088137
>didn't make the list
>>144088137
This is the weirdest namedrop ever because like four of those people don't draw anything and one of those blogs doesn't even have posts
>>144088137
apm and anastasiafag aren't drawfags
>>144088184
>>144088186
Notice how the post also said requesters. Read.
>>144088229
Notice how the first blog has literally no posts
>>144088137
Oh I thought you meant "Gathering" as in actually associating with "tumblr" as tumblr and not either being a drawfag or literally using tumblr to get free requests, associate with each other or post their commissions.
>>144088137
Don't you need a tumblr to view a tumblr account? How do you know these accounts exist if you are not also part of tumblr, homie?
>>144088137
>Actually posting the LIST
>>144088286
But you don't. Only the first one
>>144088297
Are you sure?
>>144088137
>only 3 drawfags
>2 of them draw lewd shit
oh.. ok. I don't give a shit about requesters but having a tumblr as a drawfag doesn't mean you're some sjw idiot automatically.
>>144088295
That list is literal shit tier because I don't think anyone other than Audere is open for commissions. Just a list of people he doesn't like and wanted to namedrop.
>>144088186
Wrong, they're just not good drawfags.
>>144088137
Not that much interactivity
If they were reblogging sjw shit I'd care, but they're mostly responding to asks or things related to commissions.
It's Yoshiko's birthday, can she get something drawn for her?
>>144088838
Is she the one with the silly faces?
>>144088861
yes
>>144088137
>not on the list
You'll never catch me, hah.
>>144088137
>audere's oc
>>144089129
What OC?
Requesting all the Dios doing the Ginyu Force pose together
>be in threads since late 2014
>no name stealth drawfag
>avoid all drama
>>144089931
So long as people keep to themselves and draw/request there shouldn't be any drama in your direction unless you stick your neck out. Don't know what's so hard with people.
>>144089931
Then how do you farm commissions? What use does it have for you to be here?
I would like a picture of Marika wearing Wangerie. Please and thank you.
>>144090117
I have a decent job so I don't need money, plus I'm not that great. I'm here to draw interesting requests.
Commissions are for high school kids, poor collegefags and 4th worldfags.
>>144089561
Ignore me, I thought the colorswapped Ryuko was his. It still looks hilariously donut steel to me.
>>144090342
>>Commissions are for high school kids, poor collegefags and 4th worldfags.
Someone who sucks and couldn't make commissions everyone.
>>144090019
Not necessarily. There's people who are simply looking for drama, you can get in trouble even for drawing.
>>144090342
Commission artists sometimes come here just to draw for fun.
>>144090452
Well he's not wrong. Collegefags are especially greedy.
>>144090587
Unfortunately this will likely remain the case, at least so long as the WWD is a thing, and even beyond that.
I WISH I COULD DRAW
Requesting loli Constantine XI Palaiologos
>>144090896
>I wish I could draw
>I wish I could get a job
>I wish I could breathe
Just do it
>>144090896
Draw right now! But don't draw for here. No one here cares for beginnerfags
>>144090964
Don't encourage talentless plebeians or failed abortions like ssf will keep happening
>>144091227
I like the porn of her. I wish more was done.
>>144058437
Filling this request again because I like it
>>144091360
Best girls
>>144091384
Artist here. I agree, Kafuka is my favorite.
>>144091509
Clever girl
>>144058437
Which one fucks the hardest?
Requesting Satsuki Kiryuin from Kill la Kill giving anoneither a titfuck or a buttjoband threatening anonshould they cum before she's given them persmission, please. Thank you!
>>144091798
Not cool.
Requesting Rina in a leopard print Mahou Shoujo outfit, shooting a Gyaru Beam.
Requesting Sophia having lewd dreams about being a dominatrix.
Requesting Anastasia wearing sexy strap lingerie:
http://imgur.com/a/Vxg0O
>>144092432
why do you want to make this trashy whore look even more ugly?
>>144082865
Why would her crying ve ok but having a calm rage not acceptable?
