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You're the Game Master and this group of adventures want to play a Game. How do You proceed?
goblin rape
>>144012025
>Game Master
The term is Dungeon Master.
>>144012025
>Warrior that charges in and doesn't care about collateral damage with his sword swings
>Monk that tries to be helpful but cannot aim her kicks
>Mage that has only single attack spells
>Priestess that has minor healing and flash bombs
>against a mob that can ruin a village
Seriously, what could go wrong?
>>144012112
If you're playing DnD sure, but plenty of other systems exist.
>>144012167
DM=D&D
ST=WoD
GM=??
>>144012167
I can't name any off the top of my head, but it's pretty much the generic term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamemaster
>>144012025
Tell them to bring some lube.
>>144012025
>swordsman catches their blade in the environment
>doesn't fucking use their sword as a thrusting weapon
what's the point of a sword if all you do is swing it like a retard
>doesn't bring a shield
two layers of stupid
>Roll Perception
>>144012406
>fail on all checks
>>144012419
You were unable to perceive the horde of goblins rushing to ambush you.
>roll fortitude
>Roll for anal circumference
>>144012131
>>Warrior that charges in and doesn't care about collateral damage with his sword swings
>>Monk that tries to be helpful but cannot aim her kicks
>>Mage that has only single attack spells
>>Priestess that has minor healing and flash bombs
>>against a mob that can ruin a village
Standard Shounen Protagonist.
>>144012666
Not even a power of daijoubu could help them.
>>144012666
Too bad they weren't protagonists.
>>144012246
DM refers to dungeons of course, which are more game like by nature. DnD is this, with emphasis on tactical monster battles.
WoD has a storyteller because of course it does it's WoD. Most of WoD settings allow you to never throw a single attack. It's narrative driven, so fighting is the faster way of solving problems, but rarely the safest or wisest.
Something like D20 modern or GURPS would probably have a GM as opposed to a DM because of how the game could lean more on a narrative focus than something like DnD would. That said, GM's are still running a more game like system than that of a storyteller.
Having said that, you could just chalk it down to the fact that a GM is basically a DM, but that there aren't any dungeons in the setting, so DM would be incorrect.
>>144012791
One of them was.
>>144012025
Would actually make the game more texted based magic mystery instead of grinding. With a lot of "revelations".
>>144012962
>Would actually make the game more texted based magic mystery instead of grinding. With a lot of "revelations".
Probably text. Just for the imagination.
>>144012025
>Tunnel that can't be seen
>Enemies spawning everywhere
>Mage instantly incapacitated
THAT GM just wanted his magical realm
>>144012817
Right, a healer that wet herself in front of danger instead of keeping her head cool and heal? Zero knowledge about body condition? She is a failure.
>>144012666
Well, that's something allways triggered me, in fact is the thing that triggers me the most in anime and manga, MC takes the worst possible path of action but gets the best possible result just because "he was right" and everything goes conveniently.
It annoys me to no end when the plot includes time bullshit or parallel work
>You cant save X without sacrifice Y, it has been proved in infinite parallel universes through infinite timeloops of despair.
>Fuck you, I belive in nakama
>Both X and Y were saved that day with a single punch.
So, watching this manga made me chuckle because of that, because you think "yeah, that's the idea". Problem was that at the same time it was unsatisfiying as hell since it was all so fast and actually devoid of meaning, was just a "reference/twist" to set the premise, I wished it had more meaning like you know, party working like that during part of the story and they suffering smaller consequences but warrior bullshit continues (like happens in standard shounen) until it goes to far and they end the way they did.
>>144014073
>So, watching this manga made me chuckle because of that, because you think "yeah, that's the idea". Problem was that at the same time it was unsatisfiying as hell since it was all so fast and actually devoid of meaning, was just a "reference/twist" to set the premise, I wished it had more meaning like you know, party working like that during part of the story and they suffering smaller consequences but warrior bullshit continues (like happens in standard shounen) until it goes to far and they end the way they did.
Given that they fought goblins, I don't think they would reach a certain point like that. Especially since they had children. I would have loved that outcome though. The creeping realization that they fucked up badly but they keep going on because the leader thinks he's right, until its just too late.
>>144012804
FATAL = Maim Master/Aedile
Draci Drupe Plus = Mister Cavern
>>144012762
No, but the power of enemies suddenly becoming less competent would. Seems like the goblins reverted to standard charge at the enemy one at at time tactics instead of working together as a group after the newbie squad was taken out. This would have resulted in every other player punching the DM/GM for favoring his SI-PC.
>>144014224
>MC warrior lost an eye: We can't kill them, they are only newborns, they are INNOCENT! I am sure that if we try we will understand each other
>Wounded Monk: It can't be helped, I knew you would say that
>Mage (can't have children any more): Umu! Yashashiiii, Warrior-kun.
Next week goblins pillage MC village and rapes and kill MC's imouto.
Shit would be glorious .
>>144012131You will see a party of prepared Steel-level adventurers meeting a similar if not worse fate later.
>>144014456
You need to take into account that their leader (shaman) was incapitated so they just followed the biggest dude and charged out.
>>144014477
>>MC warrior lost an eye: We can't kill them, they are only newborns, they are INNOCENT! I am sure that if we try we will understand each other
>>Wounded Monk: It can't be helped, I knew you would say that
>>Mage (can't have children any more): Umu! Yashashiiii, Warrior-kun.
>Next week goblins pillage MC village and rapes and kill MC's imouto.
>Shit would be glorious .
This is what happen to the Goblin Slayer
>>144014477
Something similar happened in a h-rpgmaker. MC let the little goblin go, only to find out he was the head honcho and brought in larger muscles in a later date to kill everyone he cared.
>>144014456
I thought I was the only one who saw that.
When they fought the scrubs they monitorized them, attacked in packs coordinating their moves ,used the terrain in their favor, but when they see helmet they start to run one by one into the corridor after him, not to mention with the exception of one scout no one seemed to care for the missing goblins or the missing adventurer girls and were just fucking girls without being aware of the envoirement while knowing there were still adventurers roaming their caves.
>>144014653
You have to remember that there wasn't any warning. They just thought it was the priesstess and the wounded mage. Both of which were no longer threats. Goblin Slayer appearing out of fucking nowhere did blindsided them.
>>144014645
Goblin Lord in this story is basically that. Except he immediately maimed the woman who let him go.
Choose 4 adventures
>>144014645
What game was that?
>>144015149
The one with the female mage.
>>144014653
>When they fought the scrubs they monitorized them, attacked in packs
This is true
>coordinating their moves ,used the terrain in their favor
I think you are seeing more than what was there.
It was a pre-planned strategy that the goblins where probably always using. There is a difference in brain power required between using a standard pre-planned strategy that they probably always used as well as having their leader/tactician lead them and countering someone who had killed their leader and wasn't acting like a stupid newbie adventurer.
>>144012762
What about nakama
>>144015948
Worked for Goblin Slayer.
>>144015149
Can I fug them or just see how goblins rape them?
>>144012025
I would add a trashtalk roll for all players and creatures.
>>144014477
>Next week goblins pillage MC village and rapes and kill MC's imouto
Not funny Anon. That shit happened to Goblin Slayer.
>>144015149
This is my party.
>>144015149
Ore to Osananajimi to Hinnyuu no Akuma
It's a pretty shitty rpgmaker game so I won't really recommend it.
>>144016667
Why your party looks like the ones you have to slay instead the ones you have to join?
>>144014488
Tell me about the rape.
>>144014707
But why would the goblins suddenly decided to let down their guard then, especially after an attack? They would be in high alert since there could be more of them around. I mean, if they were this careless, they wouldn't be considered that much of a threat to necessitate a specialist like the Goblin Slayer.
>>144019214
Because there's fresh meat infront of them and they sent out 3 scouts to finish off the Priestress and Mage.
Goblin Slayer isn't a specialist, he just has a genocide boner because of what they did to his village.
>>144019593
Except that's my point. Against the newbie party, the goblin acted in an organized manner utilizing the terrain and other things that weren't used against the Goblin Slayer. They hyped the goblins up as dangerous only for them to act like incompetent idiots against the SI. If this was an actual tabletop gaming campaign, the DM would have been punched long ago.
>>144019851
GS explicitly counters and explains the Goblin's tactics to use against them. The ambusher becomes the ambushed when lured into a counter trap. They were dangerous to arrogant noobs who charge in head first without a plan but they crumple against a veteran who knows their pre-planned tactics and strategy, that's the whole point of this chapter.
Plus you can't expect them to think well when all their blood is in their boners.
>>144019851
Because they had mostly won? I believe people would let their guard down when they thought victory was assured. If GS didn't arrive then, their judgment would be correct.
>>144019851
>utilizing the terrain and other things that weren't used against the Goblin Slayer.
Because they already walked past all the alternative route already and the only thing that left is a straight cave?
Reminder that GS follows d&d 5e, so the mass war tactics is why the goblins are a huge threat with their numbers.
>>144012025
Anyone have the mango name? Reverse search is giving me cartoons...
>>144021721
Goblin slayer
>Reverse search is giving me cartoons...
Have you try look at the bottom of the search or the second page? That works for me sometime.
>>144017134
>Why does your party look like the ones you have to slay instead of the ones you have to join?
Don't know Anon. Guess evil is attractive.
>>144021770
Thanks, and I'll make sure to try that next time!
>>144016406
>MC is a hero fueled by vengeance
Quite a letdown with this cliche.
>>144012025
Rocks fall, everyone dies.
The end.
>randomly lashes out her leg without looking at the target first
This is some bad excuse of a martial artist.
>>144022567
>buzzwords
I know is an inpopular opinion but to me it resembled more a DS youtube video than a D&D campaign.
"If you go YOLO you'll aggro everything and die, if you go careful things go well".
Or at least that's how I felt
>>144012025
Well, I have a bad habit of making encounters astoundingly fatal for player characters when I run campaigns in real life. So I imagine that this would go in a very similar way to my last session.
>PCs enter enemy territory
>Fail perception checks
>3 of them die, the last barely escapes from the danger
This literally happened in the last session I ran a few weeks ago. I'm kinda new to GMing so I haven't quite gotten the hang of balancing my campaigns yet.
Luckily my players aren't to unhappy about rolling new characters.
>>144023032
Probably because you haven't played much D&D. First chapter reeks of a blood thirsty DM running a new party through the first ambush in Lost Mine of Phandelver.
>>144023291
It's always handy to have pre-written modules on standby, most of the 1-5 lvl encounters are balanced enough to the point where death is a reasonable consequence but still isn't too hard to avoid.
>>144022567
>cliche
This is literally a 5e Paladin with Goblins as sworn enemies.
>>144022712
Think the shading is supposed to imply that the rest of the hob goblin was in the shadows and she instinctively lashed out at it. If it was a normal goblo, she might have KO'd it and retreat but eh, Author needs a still breathing victim.
>>144023680
>It's always handy to have pre-written modules on standby
I usually recommend that people just starting out running games use pre-written scenarios. That ways they can just focus on the rules and the group and not balancing their own quests. I started running some GURPS scenarios and it helped immensely with getting my head to wrap around campaign structure.
>>144024498
And that isn't enough. A martial artist should have made sure his moves connected without endangering himself. Here she made the fatal mistake in assuming everything is gob-size.
>>144022567
You would be hunting goblins too if they fucked up your whole life.
>>144020447
>>144020569
>>144021108
Again, that's the point I was making. Against the newbie party, the goblins had basically used tactics and organization against them, but didn't against the GS. If the situation was turned around and it was the GS that had first faced the organized goblins that were using tactics, he would have died outright, whereas the newbie group following afterward to fight the goblins that had let their guard down would have succeeded as well. The GS had an easier time as compared to the newbie party. Not that I'm saying GS is crap or anythjng, but it felt like it wasn't GS being better but the encounter difficulty being set easier for him.
>>144025269
>goblins that were using tactics
I think the point is that he would have seen the ambush when he first entered (he spotted the side cave and knew the habits of Shaman led Goblins)
We also know he traps areas ahead of time and that goblins send out single scouts and not groups of scouts. So he would have killed the scout in the side cave, trapped the area behind him, and gone to work once they tried to pincer him.
>>144025269
He's a Silver-ranked adventurer hunting Goblins way below his rank and he demonstrated that he was aware of every mistake the noob party made that caused a party wipe. Is the encounter easier? Yes, because the goblins thought they already won and were too busy enjoying the spoils. Will he job? He won't be the frickin Goblin Slayer if he can't slay a slightly atypical pack of goblins.
>>144025419
But we wouldn't have known that since he pulled off those traps and luring against an entire group of enemy that had let their guards down. If they were alert, they would have called for backup and gang rushed him like they did with the newbie party, and the GS would have died. We would have not known how effective his tactic was because the encounter was obviously set to a much lower difficulty than that of the newbie parry.
>>144025575
>If they were alert, they would have called for backup and gang rushed him
The thing is him taking out a scout is the exact reason why they wouldn't have been alerted to him. These goblins rely on a single scout to tell them when people enter. GS knows this and we see him take out a scout and then immediately take out some goblins in a cave, but the ones in the rape cave which means they are on alert for new people entering.
I think you're assuming that the Goblins were all relaxed and not just the ones in the rape cave. They still were using their tactics which were definitely countered by GS.
>>144023032
If this doesn't feel like D&D to you, you've only played narrative focused D&D where the PCs are Big Damned Heroes encased in plot armor. Which is fine, if that's what you enjoy. But there's a different school of play, an older school, that Japan especially loves. Here's the classic copypasta description.
"When you're in an old-school dungeon YOU'RE IN FUCKING VIETNAM. Check EVERYTHING. Clear out EVERYTHING. Don't take ONE STEP MORE than you have to until you're COMPLETELY SURE it's clear. Check EVERYTHING for traps. Search EVERYTHING. Keep the overall tactical layout in mind because THE GM WILL USE IT TO FUCK YOU OVER. Be PROACTIVE: set traps and ambushes for the monsters before they do it to you. Find a position of tactical advantage and DUMP FIREBALLS, FLAMING OIL, AND BARRAGES OF ARROWS on your enemies."
Notice how it's almost a checklist for Goblin Slayer's tactics? That's no accident. Those are the time honored tricks of the dungeon crawler, who knows how to use every single item on the mundane equipment list in useful ways the book doesn't explicitly present.
>>144025876
>Rely on a single scout
That's just utterly pathetic. This doesn't show the goblins as some grave threat, it just shows newbie party are new and goblins can be very easily taken care of if they're that much of an idiot, which is a complete 180 was what was shown in their fight against the newbies.
>>144012025
I tell the Monk girl to fuck off and git gud so she's spared the rape and carnage
The rest get what they ask for
>>144025907
I dunno. I mean, it's one thing when it's a tough encounter, it's another thing when the DM rules that the fighter can't use power attack because the tunnel is too small.
>>144026290
What, 90% of the fight with the noobs was all their mistake. Fighter bringing a sword too big for caves, Mage standing so close that she got stomach-shanked and monk kicking the Hobgoblin and letting it grab her.
>>144012025
They didn't bring a Rogue into a dark ass cave against mobs with night sight.
>chuckle's evilly, failed perception checks everywhere
Their fighter has a one handed sword and no shield who the fuck does he think he is, Conan?
>lol way to gimp AC and dmg noob
piercing weapons and constitution checks for you son.
Healer and Mage are both potatoe tier
>Guess I'll see if they know they're supposed to CC. Nope. Ok. Have fun with that.
Martial Artist arguably best DD in the party doing what it's supposed to do.
>Oh, it's a pure dex build guess you'd better throw a 20 on that str check.
It's like they tried to fail.
>>144025907
This. Anyone who played Icewind Dale 2 would know this shit.
Reposting because I like this.
>>144026515
So, what you're telling me is that goblins aren't dangerous and that as long as you can take out their one guy standing watch, they will just simply charge at you one at a time, then? Goblins seems to be shit-tier in this verse then.
>>144026290
There is a reason that goblins have such an incredible low bounty. They're not really a huge threat but there's still a big enough problem that somebody needs to go out and take care of them.
>>144026680
From what I've gathered, they are supposed to be shit tier. But apparentlythe gods fucked with the settings and now the goblin population has exploded or something. Because they use mob tactics, this is a very bad thing.
Note that I might be wrong about the spoiler
>>144026764
So, the GS isn't some great warrior but just a single adventurer picking on shit-tier mobs then? That sound about right for a SI work.
>>144025907
I'd really like to play some tabletop games like that, but I don't have friends to play with.
>>144026680
Are you intentionally being stupid. Taking out the single Scout stop them from mobilizing all of their forces at one time and you can pick off each cluster as you encounter them. Did you also forget that as soon as Goblin Slayer finds the shop and he takes him out first which means you're breaking the chain of command and leaving the low-level grunts to fend for themselves.
>>144026680
Yes, because they are a an iron-level threat or akin to smaller more numerous bandits which is just above killing rats in the sewers. The problem is for some reason their population is exploding and more advance version like the Oni are popping up.
Why do you think a guy can reach the third highest rank just by killing a fuckton of goblins? Because there are a fuck ton of goblins multiplying (likely using human women) and he's barely keeping them in check.
>>144026452
Circumstance penalty to his attack roll due to terrain. Totally standard for hostile dungeon environments. That's why you listen to every damned word of the DM's description, then ask questions about specifics before proceeding.
Tight tunnels? That's probably a penalty to slashing weapons. Pile of bones? Don't assume it's just atmospheric, check the "empty cave" for Piercers and Ropers. Fighting creatures with a Scent ability? Make sure you're doing something to counter it.
>>144026856
Actually yes one of the quotes that came from the light novel is a goblin Slayer acknowledging that he's not some great hero and that all he can really do is kill goblins.
>>144026773
I dunno, I mean from what people are saying, just taking out their sole watch-goblin means they won't resort to mob tactics anymore.
>>144026680
>So, what you're telling me is that goblins aren't dangerous and that as long as you can take out their one guy standing watch
Yes? Taking about the scout is pretty much a standard in warfare.
>>144026886
>Swords can only be used for slashing and power attacks can't be applied to stabbing
You must have one hell of a killer DM for him to pull that bullshit on you.
>>144026910
Oh, then I was actually correct in my statement about this entire encounter? That's kinda disappointing then.
>>144026538
A friend asked me to play with him one time. Made a Rogue character, all dexterity, intelligence, and perception. Had rope, knives, and a wood staff I pulled off a guy.
Friend DM: You see 2 sleeping goblins guarding a cave what do you do?
Me: Perception check, see if anything else around. Nope? Dexterity check, lay staff across goblin necks, sleeping perception check to wake them, they fail. Acrobatics to jump on staff, succeed. Two dead goblins and nobody knows a thing, friend convinced I am a serial killer. I did this shit the entire encounter.
Friend was laughing so hard he couldn't talk by the end of it.
Never go dungeoning without a good Rogue.
>>144014073
No, fuck, no.
We already got a full season / novels worth in Grimgar of a bunch of noobs trying to fight some shitty goblins. No more of that please.
Kill off the noobs and carry on.
>>144026927
Yes, because there's only 16 odd goblins. 3-4 of them were wiped out in a back attack when he saved priestress, half were busy raping the women and the other half was standing guard behind the scouts.
They are not some organized army, they are short bandits hiding in caves. This is the frickin first chapter and a routine extermination, did you expect them to be fucking commandos or something?
>>144027173
What he said. The point was that this is what happens when scrubs go on raids, you get a team wipe. Only in this case the team wipe is actually a gank session followed by rape party.
Dumb asses don't live long in DiD game modes.
>>144027204
I expected something more from a group of goblins that knew how to attack as a group, use sneak attacks, readies an action to disturb the caster when using spells, used DR against someone who uses martial arts, lure the sword-woman into a place where she can't use her weapon effectively and used range weaponry against the squishy healer. Basically, I had thought they were Tucker's kobolds only to find out someone had just failed a DC 5 check for goblin lore. It's somewhat disappointing.
>>144027417
They wouldn't be a trash mob anymore if those were implemented.
>>144027447
I'm just saying, the goblins were acting incredibly smart against the newbie party, only to find out they were actually dumber than a bag of bricks. It's rather disappointing.
>>144026990
Depends on the sword. Some are dual type piercing/slashing, some aren't.
>>144027417
>>144027551
Half the shit you describe are basic goblin instincts and the other half is the noob party being dumb enough to go bumbling right into them.
It's sheer dumbness that the party backline was separated from the front so the mage get stabbed, the fighter being dumb enough to swing a sword when she's been walking through narrow caves all day and bullshit they have a hobgoblin on top of being way over-leveled for the noob party.
They get smart enough later on when the Goblin King and the Oni is introduced, enough that they almost killed GS but by then the author toned down on the death and rapes.
>>144014456
Punches would have been deserved long before that.
Everything required to survive the whole encounter without the DMPC is out of reach as they have absolutely no money, the amount of times everyone clearing out the cave should get poisons or hurt clearly outstrips the amount of healing the cleric can do if her magic worked against it in the first place, the one melee not hampered completely by the environment and shitty gear is blatantly below that bullshit hobgoblin that must have been intended to be a final boss but would have just walked around one shotting everyone.
>>144027763
Eh, like I already admitted, the first fight had been over-hyped for the goblins since they were seemingly acting like player controlled mobs. Having been told that they're not and that no one had simply bother to tell the newbie group something as simple as 'take out the lone sentry' would have completely changed the outcome of their fight. It's disheartening that we will never get an actually intelligent group of enemy as the antagonists.
>>144027589
But still, if it was a weapon with reach, I can understand how it can't be used in such tight quarters but saying a sword can't just reeks of selective rule 0 lawyering from the DM.
>>144012246
Used the term GM while playing DSA (The Dark Eye in english)
DM was kinda unfitting since you are only rare in dungeons and more in the exteriors.
Wait, the swordsman was a swordswoman?
>>144028473
I guess, look at them eyelashes.
>>144028473
Yep. A party of all female adventurers lost and gotten raped by goblins. You can tell this is based on a SI ln/wn just from that already
saucheplease
>>144029093
I thought he just looked girly, like shounen protagonists tend to.
>>144029105
But she got eaten, not raped
>>144029252
Alright. An all female party lost, and either gotten eaten or raped by the goblins. You can tell it's based on an SI ln/wn already.
>>144029252
The goblins weren't prioritizing rape over killing threats. Sure they're quick to change to raping but stabbing the mage was clearly to kill her and anyone that was considered a threat was properly attacked.
The goblins didn't proceed to raping mage and the monk until after they were incapacitated.
The fighter was still a threat until killed and so she got killed.
>>144026515
Why would that ever be a problem outside Dark Souls? Sword sixe usually isn't a consideration.
>>144029630
You're saying a disarmed fighter with a wounded leg being held down by a mob of goblins was more of a threat than a disarmed monk being held down by a hobgoblin?
>>144026680
They're supposed to be shit in every verse. That's why this manga makes no sense.
Gobbos are solo tier, this level of strength is bizarre.
>>144029252
>i thought he just looked girly
Her gender is ambiguous. S/he can be whatever you want her to be. I think a party of 4 girls schlicking together is more likely than 1 guy managing to assemble his own harem as a porcelain ranked adventurer
>>144026680
4goblins for 4 copper coins is a standard lvl1 tutorial adventure
>>144029940
My memory must be a bit fuzzy concerning that scene because I remembered it as fighter fucks up from the sword hitting then is immediately ganked/killed.
The monk on the other hand got wrecked and held down by the strongest guy there.
>>144030133
>1 guy managing to assemble his own harem as a porcelain ranked adventurer
that's how it usually ends up in isekai fiction or jrpgs
>>144030359
Basically. The Newbie party was your standard Japanese RPG based fantasy crew and they all got wrecked because they didn't realize they were playing D&D / Dark Souls.
>>144026620
It should end at the "only good goblin" page for more impact
>>144030625
No, more like they got rekt because no one told them about the goblin's hilariously shit-tier weakness of over-reliance on one sentry. Apparently, take that one sentry out and they could have succeeded. Or at least, that's what I'm getting from the novel readers here.
>>144026680
Normally they aren't that dangerous. A shaman shows up and they suddenly learn tactics which makes em much more dangerous but it's easy to figure out that one is there because they start posting skulls on pikes to distract you from ambush spots.
The bigger issue is that massive fatality rate that the guild knows about yet doesn't bother to actually warn the people they send to their deaths about (which would increase caution and actually make more of them live) or at least increase the danger official danger rating of when dealing with them in caves.
That being said there are some logic holes so far like the kill the babies because they will learn and become smarter idea when the shaman was supposed to be the only intelligent type. I can't tell if that's due to the babies being half human or not since anons could have been joking when they said there are no female goblins.
>>144032188
From what I read a few threads back the party was fucked from the get go according to GS since there was a hobgoblin. Remove hobgoblin and the monk would have soloed the entire cave.
>>144032296
Killing any potential shamans seems reasonable.
>>144026773
I think it was a mix of both incompetence and setting favoring the MC. I mean, in the end this wasn't a game but a manga.
They present us the adventurers like a bunch of overconfident idiots so when they fail at something you get the feeling that "its their fault" "they deserve it" and was certainly true with some things like leaving mage and prietress behind but not with others that were pure plain bullshit, sword too long for using on a cave? Can't he thrust? They stand next to a tunnel and don't see it because they saw the totem? Not to mention huge hobgob appearing from nowhere. One scout spoted them and half horde gone affter them.
Then on the other hand the MC is presented as us like a careful guy that uses tactics and we have to think "things goes well for him because he is careful" what then again is true sometimes but then again convinient things happens like no other goblins going to catch the fresh meat or solo scout gob in a dark cave and instead of running to call the others is killed. Hobgob that has dex enough to perform stealth attack on monk falls to a trap (when they are suposed to have vision in the dark).
The way they were presented was soposed to make us think they gone unprepared but honestly they didn't do that bad, Monk and Warrior were pretty skilled they were fucked mostly by the story.
>>144032514
It is. It's just that it sounded more like he meant as a whole rather than eliminating the shaman threat. So they go from smarter than people think/admit to sudden int gains if they survive an attack. The threat levels and reasoning behind em are inconsistent all over the place.
>>144032522
The cleric using that flare was supposed to temporality blind it and weaken it's sight so that it doesn't notice the trap. Why the hobgoblin chose to chase her at full speed when even the stupidest creature waits till it can see or stumbles around is something I don't get but at least the logic makes sense.
>>144032522
>sword too long for using on a cave? Can't he thrust?
It was dark and he was swinging. His demise was met when his sword hit the the wall. Thrusting would help but not against a mob where slashing multiple foes would hold a better advantage.
I just feel like it's trying to present that those who are not prepared get fucked. The mage thought herself a prodigy, the warrior thought that sheer determination of will would prevail. It didn't, they both died and the line fell.
seriously what manga
>>144033627
Dark Souls.
>>144032188
I think people are saying that if you remove the sentry you remove the flanking maneuver that the Goblins use. They still do congregate in groups but that lone Scout is kind of the trigger for your group getting surrounded. Otherwise you encounter 4-6 at a time and can get the drop on them instead of the other way around. This however is not taking into account the shaman who's the Magic caster and the Hobgoblin.
>>144034126
Offensive magic users obviously need a buff on this setting.
>>144034126
In short, the newbie party was screwed no matter what they did then.
>>144034022
>>144014488
Did they fuck up or was it just an unlucky situation?
>>144034616
If they had waited for the DMPC they would have survived but it's standard policy for the guild to send off people that have little chance of survival to fight goblins rather than force them to at least know wtf they're doing.
He's literally just that one dude in the entire organization so him or an equivalent showing up is highly abnormal.
I don't know if the people in charge have noticed the goblin population explosion or not but the current policy is to basically send the goblins breeding factories until a set of newbies strong enough to wipe out all the trouble that's been caused actually shows up and wins.
>>144034616
Basically; they lacked the equipment experience or common sense necessary to complete this task without any casualties which is a common story in this world. and like >>144034983 pointed out the guild either hasn't realized the goblin population has exploded or don't care because they continually list Goblin slaying Quests with low Rewards so nobody outside of goblin Slayer is really tackling them en mass.
If they wanted to ensure that people died less to these types of quests they should stop porcelains from taking them and make them go fucking kill rats in the basement. And increased the reward, that way higher caliber adventurers would be more inclined to take them
>>144012395
>flimsy leather armor
Three layers
>longsword in a cave
Four layers
>>144012131
>>144015149
>none of them wears proper armor
-5/10 would not adventure with
>>144022712
Her father would be rolling in his grave
>>144012025
>proceed?
Just like in mango
Well, maybe would give monk chance to die quickly, she was last stupid from this bunchmage get extra care though
>>144012025
just to get things out of the way early, have them roll for anal circumference
glad someone already said it once
>>144015149
>Goblin Slayer
>Goblin Slayer
>Goblin Slayer
>Goblin Slayer
What do I win?
>>144036470
>What do I win?Goblin Slayer
>>144015149
They arr rook useless. Mage and rabbit are cute at least. I'll "use" them
COUNTERACTION RISING!
Choose your class
>Gotta rape human women to make goblin babies
>Goblins proceed to stab and flail around the human women well within killing a hair of killing them rather than just incapacitating them
Goblins are fucking stupid
>>144036954
They are. It's the point.
>>144035559
>>144033370
why people is so mad at the long sword? He could have used it to thrust enemies if the plot didn't prevent him from doing so. There is nothing wrong with a long sword there.
He was swinging it because there were several enemies you say? That makes no sense, either the cave is huge enough to hold a group of enemies then the long sword could be swinged without problems or the cave was small and only one or two enemies could be in front of you and then using thrusting weapon would be efficient.
There was lot of enemies in front of them but the sword was long enough to collide with the wall? That just does not compute. If was long to hit the wall there couldn't be so many enemies in the cave and if there were as much enemies as we saw then the sword could be that long.
>>144036869
Swashbuckler would be the class I would pick, but only because I am never patient (and skilled) enough to use assassin classes.
Really like assassins with the stealh, burst oportinity and such but my brain and poorly gamer skills only allow me to either go to the melee and smash buttons or stay away and shoot arrows while others do the work
>>144036869
Class: Sorcerer
Race: Race of Ritual
Subclass: Scholar
1 Hit AOE faggots.
>goblin slayer
>goblins are the weakest creatures in the world
>basically the mudcrab slyer of morrowind
>>144038110
>Goblins are the weakest creatures in the world.
No they are not. Rank 10 Adventurers straight out kill Rats who are the weakest creatures.
>>144036869
>Guardian
>Human
>Alchemist
>Hunter
Gotta smite ALL the goblins, kid.
>>144038110
Nah, one of the gods decided to fuck with one of the goddesses who liked humanity and buffed the gobbos to ridiculous levels as well as give them a population boom.
>>144038961
Is it fair to say that god who did that is the God of Goblins?
End game boss found.
>You're the Game Master and this group of adventures want to play a Game. How do You proceed?
I would do my best to keep the players invested in my game and have fun, at least until they all stop coming to the weekly meets....again....
>>144038961
Be an evil dick god, wants to annoy goddess of mercy, decides to buff goblins and increase their numbers.
What a shitty evil god, why not to buff slimes or kittens?
>>144037508
Sneak attack works with ranged weapons for assassins and allow for what you just described due to all of the skill trees so there's really no reason you can't.
>>144036869
Cleric (heals everyone)
Summoner (summons tons of meatshields)
Bard (buffs everyone)
Guardian (tanks until Summoner gets the army up)
Win by outnumbering everyone with stronger monsters than them.
>>144012025
The guys I used to play with were horribly resourceful, I remember at one point they were begging me to have an epic big boss battle with no added minions (i.e. just make him REALLY tough) so I had them fight this goat demon
>Party relies a ton on the Wizard, was the tactician and always came up with successful plans
>Decide to take him out first, he isn't allowed to talk when he's KO'd so he can't cook up a strategy for them
>Design a goat-demon boss with an obscene charge ability
>They reach him
>Surprise attack charge destroys the Wizard and sends the group into a panic
>Cleric busy keeping the Wizard alive
>Barbarian goes berserk and keeps the demon busy
>Wizard is up again, casts Haste (doubles movement on next turn) on Druid, Druid casts it on Barbarian
>Druid casts Caltrops (2d4 for every square walked on) in a straight runway
>Transforms into a bear and grapples the demon by the horn, raging Barb does the same on the other one
>Hasted Bear+Barb drag demon across the Caltrop runway and back dealing massive damage
>mfw my presumed OP boss dies in less than 5 turns
>>144040633
Killkittens are dangerous enough on their own and buffing them removes their main advantage of being too cute for anyone to notice that they have paralytic claws.
>>144025907
Don't forget that every edition included a 10 foot pole in its short equipment table. Also, these kinds of adventures are often called "Gygaxian."
>>144040828
Your mistake was forgetting about action economy. Removing minions drastically weakens the boss by not tying up players a little as well.
>>144012025
So who trainee Goblin Slayer? With no one to look out for him he could easily have ended up like these guys. Also if he's gotten to Silver just killing these guys why hasn't the church or government rewarded him for making the lands safer? A short sword he can light on fire to use as a torch or clean the blood and fat off would be perfect for him.
>>144036869
Half-Alv Cleric-cum-Brewer-cum-Prostitute. Clerics are OP and outside of combat, I bring happiness to the party with my superior alcohol-brewing and slut skills. Also, since I am a cleric, I can cure disease any STDs I get and make sure I don't get knocked up. Half-Alv racial bonus means I encounter all the monsters I can fuck instead of fighting and add them to my reverse harem of fanboys.
I'll probably end up as a demon lord after catching all my pokeymans so I can take my time fucking them in peace.
>>144041107
He just got gud.
>>144040828
>an epic big boss battle with no added minion
Hahahahaha. You done fucked up now. Unless said epic boss is a spellcaster, he was doomed the moment everyone rolled imitative. Solo bosses that doesn't have caster level aren't bosses, but just a roadblock.
>>144041107
They apparently have theoretically bigger problems to worry about like demon invasion.
The goblins are imo a larger long term threat due to how massive swaths of adventurers that would eventually become strong enough to defend against the real threats are getting culled.
>fighter
death by stupidity
>mage
death by stupidity
>cleric
should have been raped instead
>monk
only decent member, fucked over by inept team members
>>144040828
Our last GM just made every enemy obscenely tough, like you almost always have to 2v1 a fucking mob.
>in dungeon
>fishhuman in front of us, not noticing us
>knight tries to strangle him from behind
>fishhuman is too bulky
>gladiator and cleric also jump on him
>too bulky
>mage, cleric2 and archer jump on him
>fishhuman is on the ground
>we try to torture him to give us information
>he dies of shock because we stuck our hands up his gills repeatedly
>>144040998
>forgetting about action economy
I didn't, for the players level this guy was probably the most obscenely powerful single-mob I've ever made. Spells, immunities, abilities you name it, I've made dragons weaker than this guy
Caltrops lays down a LOT of squares, it's meant to cover up a square/circle, not a strip, but can be layed down anyhow as long as it's within range. Now assume a mob steps on every Caltrop square in a single turn
THAT'S what I didn't see coming, I honestly don't think there's a single spell in 5e that does even close to that damage (I believe 2d4*12 if my memory is correct) until maybe 7th level spells
>>144041342
I'm just saying. At least a ring of low light vision as a token of gratitude or something.
>>144041107
Goblin Slayer originally studied up on the biology of Goblins.
He killed the ones who would move in small packs of 1-2 and travel about. He would watch how they poison their arrows with piss and shit, when they get the smell of females Goblins are known to become sexually active. Goblin will not kill females immediately unless hungry/they really need to as the woman kept resisting or show signs of being extremely dangerous. Most of the time they are used as sex slaves for the packs in a den or the wandering Goblins which found a traveling woman.
He kept doing this for awhile; monitoring and recording the Goblins actions. Learned to split them up. When he followed some Goblins to caves, he explored the entrance noticed they like to small tunnels and entrances to use for surprise attacks.
Etc, etc.
[] Marry
[] Breed w/ for the Sole Purpose of Procreation
[] Both.
>>144041430
They're all stupid and should all be dead for going there in the first place and also not noticing the side caves.
>>144041430
Are monk and mage already dead? They could have made at least OK characters given the tragedy they just had, adding to their personas.
>>144041342
Gee, it almost sounds like a big job for a person that specializes in taking out certain low level trash mobs and would end up rewarding said person with untold riches and fame if he succeeds.
The DM would have been bludgeoned to death with the PHB at this point.
>>144041797
is she a rape victim too?
>>144041594
OK. I do like that. As far as weapon skills though, is that just experience from practical use?
>>144041841
goblin slayer killed mage
monk is mind broken and got sent to a church
>>144041921
She is a pure.
>>144041841
>>144041430
Fighter
-Death by Mutilation
Mage
-Death by Poisoning/Slit Throat
-Raped
Cleric
-Alive
-Wet herself
-Arrow to the shoulder
Monk
-Alive
-Raped
-Retired from Adventuring.
Goblin Slayer
-Alive
-PTSD from Goblin Attack on Village and Bad End to Sister.
>>144041981
>mind broken by like an hour of goblin dick at most
That must have been some fine dick.
This is your Dungeon master for Tonight's game
>>144041921
Almost. Dwarfbro saved her
>>144041882
I'm the guy who asked why doesn't he get rewarded. I'm not quite sure what you're saying here, but what I was trying to say is that his genocidal actions have probably helped keep stability in his area so that they can focus on those bigger threats without as much worry. Some recognition would not be unwarranted.
>>144041437
Why didn't you just use a spell on it? Or just outright attack with non-lethal damage?
>>144041938
Everything he knows about killing Goblins he got from experience hunting them slowly.
>>144042023
Is Goblin Slayer's imouto dead or in therapy with the other girls at the temple?
>>144041469
Are you dumb? Caltrops only do 1 point Of Damage.
>>144042086
>>144042023
Thank fuck. I always knew dwarves are the best nonhumans.
>>144042176
>Is Goblin Slayer's imouto dead or in therapy with the other girls at the temple?
Dead
>>144042023
>Retired from Adventuring.
That was a fast call.
>>144042108
It was DSA, we wanted to save up as much mana as possible since it takes like 4 nights to fully recover it.
>>144041107
My theroy :
>GS was one of those fools
>his comerade got killed by the gobs
>vengeance
>GS git gut slowly
>now he's the ultimate GS, helping other fools
>>144042139
He should write a book.
>>144042092
I'm saying this entire premise of goblins suddenly getting massive population boost reeks of specifically creating a huge problem that only the DMPC can solve.
>>144041521
>>144042092
That would be nice and all but the guilds are blatantly incompetent thanks to wasting so many adventurers.
A problem with noticing how useful he is is that most situations that would make it obvious result in noone being alive to report.
In order to really hammer in the threat level you need a top ranked adventurer group to happen to waltz into a cave despite those being relegated to starter jobs, run into oni, either escape or defeat the various oni, and make it back after dealing with whatever the fuck made them want to go in that cave in the first place to make a report.
Otherwise it's just the usual noob teams they send to their deaths dying which doesn't give a real gauge of how strong the things are or the actual threat they present.
It would be a like giving a person an award for exterminating roaches from an outside perspective.
>>144041882
You say that like I don't agree that a DM making that campaign would have deserved to be beaten to death by now.
>>144042040
Not that kind of mindbroken. More like Geiger Counter style of mindbroken.
>>144042246
>>Retired from Adventuring.
>That was a fast call.
Watching your friends getting killed and then being raped By the BGC does that
So how does the game darkest dungeon compare to goblin slayer?
>>144042297
seems to me it was more like the situation made the man instead of the other way around
>>144042346
it would be very easy to play as the party that got raped by gobs
>>144042202
5e buddy, maybe I got the name wrong but it was a Druid/Ranger spell that sprouted invisible spikes on the floor
though it's rare to see it picked up as most adventurers I see go for burning oil as go-to area denial
Why didnt they invent guns?
>>144042294
The Guild got recorded books/archives on certain Monsters in certain areas.
He doesn't need to write a book when more exist.
>>144042246
>That was a fast call.
Not really. Rank 10's drop out rate is high if they pull shit like Monk girl and friends in taking on something they were not ready for.
None of them thought to even wear chainmail under their clothing; something the Priestess does after Goblin Slayer tells her to, along with a small dagger for emergencies.
>>144039535
ACTUAL tabletop DM found
>Killing the filthy Goblin children
>Not dragging them tied to the surface to be used as training for Newbies because they keep dying
You gotta train up more Gobbie Bashers Goblin Slayer. You could make a good business.
Plus, you could always profit on letting towns people take their aggression out on them.
BEAT TO DEATH A FILTHY GOBLIN SPAWN
Figure out a price people are willing to pay.
The Goblin Slayer has reached his ideal, and became a Hero of Justice.
>>144042139
would save from ptsd and marry/10
>>144042686
Younger meat is fine too, Anon.
Any LNfag here? Does the tone gets down as we go through the story
Why are /atg/ threads so comfy?
>>144042992
>Any LNfag here? Does the tone gets down as we go through the story
its still gritty. the Author had to tone down the death and rape because readers didn't like it
>>144042992
Steel Ranked Adventurers (These are the Mid-Tier Ranking) (Rank 6 if I fucking remember their numbers correctly) get destroyed by Goblins and their Boss later.
There is no getting off this fun ride, Anon.
>>144042608
Is that him an Guild Girl?
anyway
>hair didn't turn white
weak
>>144043055
>the Author had to tone down the death and rape because readers didn't like it
Fucking Isekaifags ruining the only fun stories out there
>BAAAAAAAAW WHY ISN'T THIS A COLORFUL ADVENTURE I CAN SELF INSERT INTO
>>144043085
No that's the Cow Girl; a good friend of his who farm he helps protect.
Also she has some big tits.
>>144043176
>sweet armor
>airhead childhood friend with big udders
>kills goblins every day
This guy is living the dream
>>144043055
>>144043080
Cool, some anon said later it becomes more humor and shit so I'm worried it's gonna turn out to be another casual another world story with harem and shit.
>>144012025
I think the only way a group like that could actually die like that is if they had a retarded DM that insisted that they roll stats along with a bit of bad luck causing them to be worse than peasants.
>>144043176
Why is she topless?
>>144043176
Did they fug?
Also is she a rape victim?
>>144043124
>Fucking Isekaifags ruining the only fun stories out there
They all self-inserted as the swordsman or quite possibly as the monk. swordsman dies by mutilation monk gets the BGC and PTSD. Holy shit I would have love to see their reaction
>>144043394
If I self inserted as the monk I would be turned on as fuck desu.
>>144043314
Because titties that amazing need to be free range.
>>144043263
Anon he gets a party and makes actual friends if that counts. He can/will still solo the shit out of Goblins, but when it comes to bigger Goblins like the Oni (Which he confused for a Goblin) he gets assists.
>>144043261
He is living the dream.
>>144043314
Because its her fucking property.
>>144043342
>Did they fug?
No.
>Is she a rape victim?
Stop asking this question. No, she's good to go.
>>144043124
>>144043394
>Not liking Isekai
Dungeon Seeker is better than this piece of shit.
>>144043521
there it is, you're a little later than usual
>>144043516
Dump-anon you based but I can't help but picture you with some angry dad's voice
>>144043521
Every Single Thread
>>144043639
In the last thread a faggot accused me samefagging as batfags. Fuck that shit, I'm so mad I haven't reply early today.
>>144043521
Fucking found it. Thank you anon
>>144036869
Why do so few games have a good sword-mage class?
>>144043521
>WN this copied off of didn't even get a LN/Manga
Fucking, Nips I swear. Sakamoto 666 is great.
>>144043261
>armor
yes please
>childhood friend with beeg teetees
Dammit how am I supposed to self-insert now?
>>144043818
>Sakamoto 666 is great.
Have you seen his next work?
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/hp1-kara-hajimeru-isekai-musou/
>that fucking review
>>144043780
Hard to balance, though FFXI Blue Mages were fucking strong as hell.
>>144043516
>That lizardman
Did Goblin Slayer fuck that Lizardman?
Cause it'd be hot.
>>144043897
Being a LN artist must be suffering sometimes.
>>144032296
>The bigger issue is that massive fatality rate that the guild knows about yet doesn't bother to actually warn the people they send to their deaths about (which would increase caution and actually make more of them live) or at least increase the danger official danger rating of when dealing with them in caves.
I'd wager the guild has it in it's policy that you are responsible for yourself. She did try to offer a suggestion to the party. But they refused. At which point she was under no obligation to warn them any further and couldn't stop them since they are free to make their own choices however stupid they may be. And it's not like it wouldn't be impossible for them to complete the quest despite their rank. It's just their lack of experience, which the fighter said he had when it came to killing goblins.
>>144044012
Is he even an artist?
>>144036869
Summoner cum Enchanter
Race of ritual
Alchemist/Pharmacist
Animal trainer
I'd solo a party by myself.
>>144043963
>Did Goblin Slayer fuck that Lizardman?
Guys can't love guys Anon. Lizardbro is okay.
>>144044048
I was referring to the artist for Sakamoto's LN Mtu.
Considering LN artist get money from the LN being sold and whatever the people payed them for the drawing. There's also the fact that their name gets out there as artist thanks to the LN as well.
>>144044088
But it's not gay if it's a Lizardman.
>>144012131
The lesson here was inexperience, all four members of that party had the best start possible and had the cleric not been dawdling they might very well have cleared that dungeon.
>>144044150
Oh well, in that case you are very right.
>>144043780
>sword-mage
Ever played The Witcher, anon?
Although I have to agree the mage part is pretty weak
>>144043963
>Did Goblin Slayer fuck that Lizardman?
Actual LizardMAN, my dude.
>>144040828
How big was this demon? A level 20 barb with 24 str should only be able to drag up to 720 lb. unless they were a goliath and assuming it was a brown bear they would be able to drag up to 1140 lb. Either way if it was less than that next time you should definitely just make it really big.
>>144044037
It's a known problem to the guild that they don't have enough people for goblins while they shove off even more of them to die to make the problem of not enough newbie adventurers to take em out even worse. That's just plain bad management crippling itself in the long term.
>>144044225
Nah. Hobgoblin was blatantly above their level nor apparently warned about in the guild pamphlets. The cleric didn't even have the appropriate spells to counteract the sepsis and wasn't even told about it so that she could heal properly. The team was completely fucked from the get go. Having no money for basic meds or better gear is also not best start possible.
>>144044334
Yeah pretty happy about the combat in the third one but there are so few that actually get it right.
>>144044694
> Having no money for basic meds or better gear is also not best start possible.
They had money to get basic shit; they ignored it because they assumed the Goblins in the den would be 5-7 and would be like how the Fighter described them.
