Was Shinji always this gay?
*Bi or Pansexual(Like Tumblr)
Maybe the real reason he likes Asuka is how man-like she is.
>>143951312
He probably would have sucked Rei or Asuka off if they got to him first.
>>143951312
No, he used to like girls too.
>>143951312
Yes.
>>143951312
He was gayer in the past
>>143951312
It's not gay if it's Kaworu.
Hes not gay, just desperate for attention. We know shinji likes women so the point of.kaworu being a guy is 1. Yaoi pandering and 2. To show that he just wants ANY form of contact.
>>143953471
Anno says you're wrong.
>>143952938
I think Kaworu was more of a Shinji's idealized-self imaginary friend. Except he wasn't imaginary.
>>143953759
Anno did say he's just a perfect version of Shinji.
Be honest anon, would you fuck a perfect version of yourself if you had the chance?
>>143953964
I'd fuck just a normal version of me given the chance.
>>143954060
Rub your dick on a mirror then
If a cute boy started paying attention to me I'd probably go gay too. I'm starved for affection.
>>143951312
https://boards.fireden.net/a/search/image/esDh9PcfzOZNqjModrS4Xg/
If you want to act like a spambot so much, then I hope you enjoy your inevitable 30 day ban that happens to all spambots/sciptkiddies that run on 4chan.
>>143953471
He's not gay, he just wants dick up his butt.
>>143951312
He was painfully effete from the very start, his faggotry should surprise no-one.
>>143951312
He's bisexual and a horny teenager
>>143954277
Not frequent enough to be spam
>bisexuality doesn't exist
>>143954385
Greece pls go
>>143953964
Kaworu is Shinji's Tyler Durden. Interestingly both of these end with the main character killing his ideal self image and sharing the destruction of the world together.
>>143956159
cont.
meant to say sharing the world together with female protag
>>143954316
Tell that excuse to the mods.
>>143951312
kaworu is one of the past incarnations of shinji
>>143956344
Shut the fuck up
>>143952938
>>143951312
No.
>>143954096
That doesn't sound very comfortable anon.
I don't think hugging a mirror sounds comfortable either.
>>143953759
It's close.
He's his idealized version of himself (his ego ideal). And following the Jung-Freud bullshit that Anno loved, we build our idea of love (romantic one) in an idealized version of ourselves since infancy: the self which has what we lack. That's the image we project to the real world, seeking people that match those traits. Your 'type'. It's an unconscious process.
Kaworu happened to be literally the embodiment of this. Shinji fell in love with him at first sight. Imagine how devastating it must have been to have to lose him by his own hand not so long after that?
Anno was on drugs but he used to know what he was doing.
>>143954060
>>143953964
It's exactly how attraction and romance is built by Freudian schools which Anno followed by admission when he made Evangelion.
Kaworu was THE love interest not because it was yaoi pandering or idiot stuff like that back then, but because he was exactly how Anno pictured Shinji's ego ideal and thus embodiment of love (which he is exactly in EoE: The words I love You).
>>143956190
>with female protag
That was Misato in Eva.
Asuka was dead when the world was destroyed. Shinji shared that experience with his mother, Kaworu and Rei instead.
The rebirth of the world fagged him up a little
>>143961085
It was yaoi pandering.
>>143962547
>yaoi pandering
>in the 90s
?
>>143962569
>yaoi pandering
>not in the 90's
?
>>143962642
Phenomena like Free! are just a thing now as it was discussed some months ago https://yuki.la/a/139245620
Those are shows that will never go anywhere, nothing will ever be confirmed, that's why it can be called bait and pandering, I wouldn't put them at the same level of shows like CCS, Utena, Devilman or even EoE with Maya. They had no need to add that yet they did.
>>143962954
Though now that I think about it, Devilman wasn't from the 90s, but it's just an example. It's just that I think they had more to lose adding some homosexuality tones in Eva than the opposite.
>>143953471
Anno and Sadamoto would kick your face for saying that heresy.
>>143953471
how so? he rejected Misato the episode right before, if he were that desperate he would have gladly accept her advances
>>143965620
He knew that would never actually happen. Buttstuff can happen anywhere anytime though.
>>143962547
Nah, it was a lot like all of the fucking Christian imagery, just meant to be controversial for more attention.
>>143965620
He sees Misato as a motherly figure.
At the very least he's bi, but definetely not gay.
>>143953709
Gay
>>143966237
He could have done buttstuff with Misato, though. Your argument isn't very strong.
>>143966802
>you will never do buttstuff with misato
why live
>>143951312
Yes, he literally jerks it to Asuka, the manliest girl who ever was.
>>143967009
>wanting Pen Pen's sloppy seconds
Gross
>>143951312
Manga > Anime
>>143967092
Rei is a toilet
Shinji is a pure boy. Stop having lustful thoughts about him.
>>143951312
Shinji has a mother complex
>>143951312
Shinji was/ is sexually confused. Only tumblerites say "he's gay! it's canon!"; he's not gay.
>>143967809
say that to gainax and their Stripping Instrumentality Project artbook
>>143951312
more just desperate for any kind of love and affection he can get.
like /r9k/
>>143954134
Nothing wrong with that anon.
>>143959727
manga shinji was the gayest shinji of them all, he was full blown tsundere, and for the most autistic and awful version of kaworu.
>>143961085
So the reason I don't love anyone is because I hate myself? That makes sense I guess.
>>143961085
Shinji's ideal version of himself is one that wants to die? I don't buy it. He was just a fag, he knew this guy for not even one day and loved him.
>>143971089
>Interviewer: But wouldn’t the name Nagisa Kaworu fit even a girl?
>Anno: But that’s a young man! There’s no feminine sense whatsoever, right? Because it’s Shinji and another Shinji. Since it’s an ideal Shinji that’s appearing, it can’t be a girl.
>Interviewer: Ah, I see.
>Anno: Since he’s the character who’s clearing up all of the complexes that Shinji has.
>>143959727
What did he mean by this?
>>143968425
Anno is a tumblrite?
>ideal version of Shinji
>Shinji himself is incredibly fucking feminine
>probably wishes he was a girl
>>143973549
>>143971712
>>143973549
Kaworu has also some feminine traits, he has many aspects from the girls
>As the last Angel, if I make his profile a combined form the people that the past Angels made a contact with——what about something like this——I have this concept. That is why some parts of Kaworu look like Shinji, some parts look like Rei, some parts look like Asuka……
>In order to make him sexy, I pay special mind to his collarbone and waist, I wanted him to have that peculiar flamboyant feel and beauty that only belongs to a boy. He is thin, but have strong bones. I don’t want him to overlap with Shinji, so I made him a handsome boy type.
>So far, my male characters like in The Wings of Honneamise and Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, what should I say, I always thought they lacked something……
>Even though Shinji tries very hard, in the end, he is still a pussy, right? So Kaworu is a very rare type. His whole person is very handsome, Gainax never let me design someone like this before. His chin is sharp and clean, and his eyes and lips…… If you wanna put a label on it, perhaps more like Johnny’s Jr. Even though he doesn’t look like one special person, but his whole image looks like Johnny’s Jr. When the Anime was still on air, I came across some Johnny’s Jr’s children. Their skin are really soft and pretty, they are very cute. Their faces look like a girl, with long and slender limbs. I remembered I thought that “so this is what a boy look like before he become a man”.
>>143968593
this, he might have fucked penpen if it could talk and showed love to shinji
>>143972909
Nah, he just has a raging mancrush on Ikuhara.
>>143973791
Sadamoto sounds like a homo whenever he talks about Kaworu
>>143962569
What about stuff like Weiss Kreuz or Gundam Wing?
>>143976622
I haven't watched Weiss Kreuz, but Wing had no homolust.
>>143971089
This, Kaworu has sincere conviction in the 8th grade nihilism Shinji abandons after seeing it himself in 3rd Impact. Between that, actually having nothing but the role he was made for and being immediately disliked by everyone else he ever meets, he's treated more like Shinji's depression's self-image.
>>143966563
>kys
>>>/y/outube
>>143971089
Shinji wanted to kill something but didn't have the courage to do it, as we see in the scene where he's sitting on top of the cliff.
In this aspect, Kaworu is actually his ideal. He's not afraid of death.
>>143974470
Let's keep this thread alive ...
>>143967189
THIS.
>>143985508
Why? We've talked about Shinji being a fag for decades, is any other faggotry allowed?
>>143985508
We've already established Shinji is a raging homo for the millionth time, let it die.
>>143951312
he wanted make fuck father
yeah
>>143951312
You guys sure like beating a dead horse
>>143981886
He spends the fall into Terminal Dogma confused by the concept of survival and equating hope with suffering, it's a little more than not being afraid.
>>143988155
He's just indifferent to the concept of death to begin with.
He doesn't see any more value in being alive than being dead.
He's an ideal to Shinji in this way because where Shinji doesn't have the courage to kill himself despite wanting to, Kaworu does.
>>143961108
semantics. i guess i could say protags primary love interest instead.
>>143988690
That's not applicable to Eva though
>>143989239
Not him, but I always felt like Eva was a stealth harem anime.I know it's not, I'm just joking
>>143989564
Maybe if Kaji or Gendo were the MCs, since they were the ones getting bitches
>>143989640
Man, it's weird seeing a smiling Rei or Gendo. Also, Gendo would never betray Yui, he knows she's best Eva girl.
>>143988264
Calling death the only freedom isn't indifference.
>>143990228
He's indifferent as in he doesn't care whether he lives or dies, but he thinks both have value; the problem is he thinks they both have the same exact amount of value.
>>143990015
But he fugged the Akagis
>>143989564
Eva is as much of a harem as Haruhi is
Shinji is gay
>literally jerks off to Asuka
>>143993817
>jerks off to the manliest person in the show
>>143996277
cute
>>143989640
>>143998479
>>143989640
This image never fails to crack me up, no matter how many times I see it.
>>143990392
Fucking Karl and all his clones
>>144000181
>Trigger made Kaworu hetero
The madmen.
Someone post the girl Kaoru edit
>>144000330
Does Shinji have nipples?
>>143972679
he is trying to pull kaworu off
>>144000738
pull his shirt off
>>144000618
Yes
>>144000738
Looks to me like he's pulling Kaworu towards him, the slut.
>>144000843
kaworu forced it shinji never wanted it
>>143996277
I want to fuck him, but in a non-homo way.
>>144000618
Has Shinji been shirtless but wearing shorts/pants?
>>144000997
Was it rape?
>>144000997
But that's wrong.
>>144001056
stockholm syndrome
>>143951629
>Pansexual
>what one say when the don't have a sense of commitment.
Fucking Gen Z shit.
>>144001116
Nope.
>>144001194
Why?
>>144001276
Look up what stockholm syndrome actually is.
>>144001382
>stockholm syndrome:
the bonding is the individual's response to trauma in becoming a victim
>>144001532
>feelings of trust or affection felt in certain cases of kidnapping or hostage-taking by a victim toward a captor
>>144000788
I'm not sure why, but I'm disturbed.
>>144000788
Necks shouldn't be that long
Shinji listens to vaporwave
>>144003910
Honestly, he's enough of a faggot that he probably does.
>>143951312
The gender was irrelevant. He wanted some form of unconditional love.
>>144004149
Shinji was tense and uncomfortable around girls know, Kaworu being a guy helped him loosen up easier
>>144003852
Does it frustrate you?
>>144004340
He was tense and uncomfortable around the girls in the series because of the contexts surrounding them. He rejects Misato because of the role she plays in his home. He avoids Asuka (not outright) because they, like most teenagers, aren't that great at getting across to each other. He's confused by Rei and her relationship with Gendo.
On top of that, there's the context of Shinji's general sexuality being called out by characters like Misato - being told to be more of a man - which overwhelms him
>>144003910
Shinji is enough of a pushover that he'd start listening to vaporwave if you told him to.
>>143963034
It wasn't made for women. He was pandering to himself.
>>144004340
I bet Kaworu made him pretty loose if you know what I mean
>>143951312
Has kaworu even won once, I can't reacal, since all the official ones like the manga,nge and probably rebuild too end up with asuka.
>>144005723
Kaworu is the only one he loves in all three,
he chokes Asuka in nge, meets her for one second in a train in the manga, and barely even knows her in rebuild.
He's the consistent winner of the Shinji bowl so far.
>>144005862
>He's the consistent winner of the Shinji bowl so far.
That's some delusion if i ever seen one, but I'll take it, I guess he "won" all two times or three, according to you.
>>144005909
How is it delusion?
He's the only one Shinji loves romantically.
It's sure closer to winning than getting choked is.
>>144005950
But I just told you it's fine? why are you doubting what I say?
>>144006034
I was just telling why it wasn't delusion, kazoku.
>>144004548
I think if Kaworu was a girl Shinji wouldn't have been as open as he was.
>>143989564
all the girls and the guy like him for no reason at all. not harem yeah.
>>144007770
I'd say Asuka hates him in the original. And Mari doesn't really care. Rei cannot care because she's so emotionless.
>>143962569
what
that's like saying
>hentai
>in the 90s
>>143951312
>Was Shinji always this gay?
well when tsundere kissed him he acted like a dickless virgin and ran away like a pussy. He fantasized about fucking the cake, and masterbated to his mother and tsundere's comatose corpse
however despite all of this, the only person who makes sexual advances that he reciprocates is when the last angel does it.
So i'd say at the least he's bi, but he looks a heck of a lot more GAY then he does bi. since any alpha dog probably could have boned all the chicks in the show except for his mothers clone at some point, yet the only one he gets to 2nd base with is the gay angel.
>>143951312
Yes. Well, bi, but yes.
In the original, Shinji will probably never love again. And not just because he'll starve to death in a lifeless wasteland while getting screamed at by Asuka. (I swear, literal Hell sounds more appealing.)
Manga Shinji might have a chance, since he doesn't fucking remember.
Rebuild Shinji? Yeah, I stand by that statement. Only he gets to watch the fake version of his first partner disintegrate, wander the red wastelands while Asuka screams at him, and will probably get hanged as Future Hitler the moment they get back to the Lilim. Or whatever the plot of 3.0+1.0 will actually be.
>>143951312
They made it gay so more people would understand the meaning.kaworu is perfect to an inhumane level and if shinji goes with kaworu than shinji will never have to grow as a person. if kaworu was a girl most people would just be asking why did not he hook up with kaworu
>>144007770
No one in the show likes him
>>144000618
Sometimes.
>>144007836
>I'd say Asuka hates him in the original
Why is that? it's been a really long time since i watched the show but i don't remember getting that vibe.
>>144008558
Because she says it several times, and even tries to kill him on one occasion.
>>144000843
Why is Karl stabbing Shinji in the eye?
>>144009115
He's an edgy angle
![Evangelion 2.22 You Can (not) Advance (BD 1920x1080).mp4_snapshot_00.48.47_[2016.07.11_05.09.25].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/e3lVOuV.jpg "Evangelion 2.22 You Can (not) Advance (BD 1920x1080).mp4_snapshot_00.48.47_[2016.07.11_05.09.25].jpg")
So what if he is?
>>143992282
That's just part of his keikaku.
>>144010373
that's gay
>>143968425
>Bringing up tumblr when this discussion is over 20 years old.
Do you even think.
>>144008774
She doesn't hate him. Stop taking Asuka's neurosis at face value, idiot.
>>144003910
Eva is pretty A E S T H E T I C after all
>shinji listens to JRPG ost on sony walkman
>CRT monitors everywhere
>futuristic Japanese metropolis
>Misato drives a french sports car
It fits.
>>144014266
>not Segas
shamefur
>>143973606
>>143973606
>Hormone Therapy turns on from a pure blooded aryan Japanese man into a filthy plastic good slut
Not even once.
>>144016609
>nips
>aryan
>>144016609
>aryan
>>143952733
Wait,why is there no hair?
>>144017173
Because Shinji is still prepubescent.
>>144017173
Kaworu shaved it off for him
>>144017477
I dunno man. My family is pretty much a bunch of naked mole rats, but I already had hair there at 12-13 years old.
>>144010373
Were all the crucifixes not enough? Eva now needs homolust everywhere to be edgy?
>>144017173
Nips are lucky if they even have eyebrows.
>>143954282
If I had his ass, I'd want dicks up it too. It's the best ass in the franchise.
>>144016609
>>144016943
>>144017154
The Jew fears theWu-jin warrior
Can boys love boys?
>>144008511
Is this a scene by Rebuild?
>>144017578
The Japanese are different anon.
Besides I don't think they can draw it even if they wanted to.>>144018675
>>144021552
>>144021951
Pachinko
