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>When you receive so many complaints you make a news post about it

http://kmmk.tv/news.html?id=n079
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moomy's armpiiiiits
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Can't read moon. What was the post about?
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>>143813855
Basically saying new contents on the way.
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armpit slut
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>>143813855
Quick google translate:

To everyone that I am rooting for " Kumamiko "
2016/7/7 | Information

TV regard animation " Kumamiko "
First of all to give a formal permission of the original - monthly comic flapper editing unit ,
Under the supervision screenplay beginning animation production staff of consensus and Production Committee agreed ,
We will report that it has been produced in light of the appropriate process .
Subsequently, comics , animation ,
Thank you for your support of " Kumamiko " .
Looks like they're standing by their work and not caving in to the retarded fans. Good on them.
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Didn't know there was controversy, but this being Japan, also not surprised if there was.

Basically the blurb says that the original author, the editorial staff of Comic Flapper, and the production committee all were on the same page on the contents of the anime with the script writing by the animation staff all though production.

I.e. everybody agreed the miko-bullying was funny, please don't bother us about it.

Oh, and by the way, Blu-Ray box set is coming out, please gib monies.
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>>143814423
>I.e. everybody agreed the miko-bullying was funny, please don't bother us about it.
Is still don't understand why people are so mad about the ending but the rape/bear-fucking jokes are fine.
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>>143814423
Which is funny, because it contradicts the author's early blogpost where he sais he received the s ript for the last ep but decided not to review it because he trusted the writers wouldn't fuck up
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>>143814423
There was controversy everywhere. Even on /a/ of all places. I remember a poll in one of those threads that showed 70% of respondents were legitimately upset. Goes to show how many faggots are on /a/ right now.
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>>143814626
And now they all rightfully say that they did not fuck up actually and the author now agrees. Anyone sane enough would see that the fans' reactions were overblown. Most of them were probably bandwagoning fuckwits like those faggots here who saw it being shat on on 2chan (which is basically cancer) and decided to bring their shit on /a/.

Absolutely BTFO'd the whiners. Hilarious indeed.
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>>143813712
Yo what's with the crossover. Is that official art?
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>>143814423
>I.e. everybody agreed the miko-bullying was funny, please don't bother us about it.
The Japanese fans certainly don't agree, and they will vote with their wallets.
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>>143815616
The "bullying" throughout the show was fine with them. It was just the ending, specifically where Yoshio was going on about her being a sacrifice and all that. You'd have to be some kind of next level retard to take issue with what went on in the interim seeing as Yoshio's and delinquent-chan's good intentions were constantly made abundantly clear.
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>>143815616
Also, the author in the deleted blog post did say that he never actually reviewed any of the scripts.

The fact is the original author has a lot of power with anime adaptations, but the author is NOT paid for any extra contribution he makes. So even though most authors are ALLOWED to have a say, most of the time they don't bother. It is extra work that they would end up doing for free. It is only when the author is passionate and want to make the show better that an author would go the extra mile and show up at the anime studio.

Examples: Toriyama starting to edit dragonball scripts after Evolution pissed him off. Nisio Isin writing all the bonus commentaries and editing them on the fly during recording. And Horizon where the author ended up sending a video of himself dancing, and also writing all the lyrics of the songs the characters sing.

The original author has the power to do all this, it just is extra work that he doesn't get paid for. The KumoMiko author just didn't pay any attention to the script because he didn't legal have to, and now he has to share the blame and say he accepted the script as-is.
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>>143815684
>Yoshio's and delinquent-chan's good intentions
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>>143815684
Why are you so eager to be a contrarian?
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>>143815616
And this is why studios pander more and more each year. You want your generic little happy ending? Then do whatever you like, my friend.

>>143815684
>>143815792
Crying about Yoshio is also stupid. It was already established what being a Miko entailed and how much zeal Yoshio has. It's as if he just revealed his darkest deepest secret when it was obvious since episode 1.

>>143815822
Not him but why can't you accept that people differ in opinion?
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>>143815889
>And this is why studios pander more and more each year. You want your generic little happy ending? Then do whatever you like, my friend.
I have no idea why you think it was pandering. They were re-writing the script to squeeze in more of Sendai in order to promote tourism. The result is that Sendai looked WORSE because of it. You can't promote a city by putting in a depressing story, it fails in multiple levels.
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>>143815822
Except I'm not. There's a scene where Yoshio's view of Machi is outright stated in plain langauge and yet people still call him a pedo and bully. Same with Hibiki. She quite clearly likes or even loves Machi, but retards can't look past the several slapstick scenes where she hit her or whatever.
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>>143813768
>sideboob

why is that so appealing?
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>>143815889
>It was already established what being a Miko entailed and how much zeal Yoshio has.
Getting forcefully undressed or be whored for commercials doesn't seem one of miko's duties.
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>>143815889
>can't you accept that people differ in opinion?
He literally called anyone who disagrees with him a retard, but you choose to point me out as the one who can not handle dissenting opinions?

It's almost as if you're biased or something.
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>>143815962
A character can be unlikeable, even with good intentions.
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I've never seen an anime just tell you that it's okay to give up.
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It is amusing that the website released an announcement saying that the author approved everything, when the author previously said otherwise in his blog.

One thing that is common with big corporations, is that they are not used to the idea of information being permanently in the internet. The fact that what the author wrote in his blog is now a matter of public record, and that it doesn't matter it was deleted and the announcement was made to cover it up. It is too late, and anyone who cared about it already know the truth. The horse has bolted and they are wasting their time.

All they had to do was apologise. Admit they were wrong and apologise. The fandom is quick to forgive when a good and sincere apology is offered. But corporations are too stupid to realise that, and would rather deny anything was wrong.
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>>143815939
You may need to work on comprehension here. I don't think it was pandering.
I was saying that if they put a happy ending that people feel Machi "deserves" that will appease the fans, it would be a form of pandering.

>>143815985
Nothing wrong with being biased but I can accept that you have shitty opinions. I happened to agree with his shitty opinion but if I disagreed, that would not make me a contrarian. It also shouldn't make him a contrarian if he disagreed with your opinion.

Calling him out to be contrarian serves little for this discussion.
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>>143816051
Literally every series where the final boss isn't killed.
They made boss give up his goals
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>>143816109
>I was saying that if they put a happy ending that people feel Machi "deserves" that will appease the fans, it would be a form of pandering.
Well the only reason it ended the way it did was because the nightmare in the manga, became an actual hallucination in Sendai. Nightmares are normal, hallucinations are NOT. And the only reason she ended up with hallucinations was because of pandering to the Sendai Tourism board.
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>>143816327
She was hallucinating before the ending too.
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>>143816109
>contrarian
>a person who opposes or rejects popular opinion
The majority of /a/ disliked the anime original ending, that's what makes him contrarian.
Not the fact that he disagrees with me.

By the way, you didn't address my point.
By calling anyone who disagrees with him a retard, how is he not as intolerant of opposing views as me?
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>>143816403
>The majority of /a/ disliked the anime original ending
Neither did I. My problem is with peoples' general view of Yoshio when we were straight up told that he just sees her as a little sister and wants what's best for her. I agree that the ending was pretty at odds with that, though.
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>>143814626
All the said was that Yoshio's line about sacrifices was kinda heavy, but people like being retarded and interpreting a post in a language they don't know in whatever way they feel like.
>>143815547
>12 years old: Mumin
>14 years: Machi
It's bullying Machi's undeveloped body.
>>143816051
One of them aired in the same season. Sure, the MC was a lazy bastard, but still.
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>>143816327
Well, adding the ending that everyone supposedly wants adds another layer of pandering to it. If that's what you want, yeah go for it. Don't complain about lack of creativity once you're done though.

>>143816403
Nobody gives a shit if you are called a retard. Look where you are posting, it's an anonymous board. I don't actually care if he is intolerant but his views are his. Calling out "muh majority opinion is sacred everybody else is contrarian reee" is what pisses me off.

And don't give me the "I didn't say that" copout. It's obvious that you value your opinion so much that you see the need to call out contrarians instead of leaving them to rot in their own shit.

What do you get out of calling him that?
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>>143816500
>he just sees her as a little sister and wants what's best for her.
So shocking and exploiting her is what is best for her?
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>>143816961
Machi said herself that she wanted to be taken out of her comfort zone and grow as a person so she could make it in the city. Yoshio facilitates that by getting her out there and making her do shit that makes her uncomfortable. Aside from the ending I don't think anything he did was exploitative at all.
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>>143817081
>Aside from the ending I don't think anything he did was exploitative at all.
The commercial episode?
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>>143817104
I mean that's debatable. Don't you think she would have regretted it in the end if she opted out of a village-wide event that everyone ended up enjoying and bonding over?
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At least the ED is good.
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>>143817133
The whole village was just singing and having fun, she was the only one getting pimped and used as showcase for clocks.
And she was clearly uncomfortable in the swimsuit.

I don't see how that is any better than the ending.
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>>143816708
>Well, adding the ending that everyone supposedly wants adds another layer of pandering to it. If that's what you want, yeah go for it. Don't complain about lack of creativity once you're done though.
Creativity? This is an adaptation, if they want to be creative they should make an Original anime.
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>>143817517
Are you that much of a manga purist to disallow studios to be creative with adaptations that badly?
I understand that you may be upset about the amount of Sendai put into it but it was within the studio's creative rights to do so as it was officially agreed upon by the publisher, author and others involved.
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>>143817984
>Are you that much of a manga purist to disallow studios to be creative with adaptations that badly?
They weren't being creative, they were making changes for Sendai marketing purposes. And they screwed THAT up.

Sendai isn't happy, the fans aren't happy, the author isn't happy, and the anime studio isn't happy. Litterally no one is happy. And here you are trying to claim this show was "art" and exactly what the studio wanted.

The goal was to promote Sendai. They failed by making Sendai associated with mental illness. If you think that is art, it is art that failed to do its job.
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>>143817984
>I understand that you may be upset about the amount of Sendai put into it but it was within the studio's creative rights to do so as it was officially agreed upon by the publisher, author and others involved.
Same was Dragonball Evolution. You are technically correct, but that doesn't fix anything. Denying there was any problem wouldn't save the DVD sales.
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Literally what is the controversy about? I've seen the last episode but I don't get it.

Did people just not like the ending? Was it really different from the manga?
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>>143818347
>I've seen the last episode but I don't get it.
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>>143818158
>Literally no one is happy
The studio just posted a statement indicating that they were satisfied and, allegedly, so were the people on the production including the publisher and author.
I am happy with it along with a minority but of course that doesn't count. Sendai was a simple backdrop, I cannot for the life of me understand how they could be associated with what appeared to be a mentally impaired cartoon girl. If anything, they did not showcase the appeals of Sendai in these episodes as much as they could have. Surely, that doesn't mean that they screwed up to the point of denying their creative rights.

>>143818185
This thing was nowhere close to fucking up as much as DBE. The run had consistent quality overall which cannot be said for a lot of shows last season.
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>>143818347
You're heartless and probably agree with the bear.
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>>143818474
>>143818620
What did you guys find so dissatisfying and bad about it?
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>>143819362
They try to make a joke out of her suffering and mental trauma. It's not funny to see a little girl give up.
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>>143814626
>Because people on the internet don't lie.

Seriously, there was absolutely no way the author didn't know about it, and as we've seen from the whole Kokoro Connect/Eri Kitamura situation, obsessive fans would not hesitate to twist & lie about other people's words to justify their hate-boners.
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>>143819419
boo hoo
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>>143819419
>It's not funny to see a little girl give up.

>Wheredoyouthinkyouare.png
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>>143819419
what did you actually expect?
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>people didn't hate the anime original content before the last episode
http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/86213
Here, I dug it up just for you faggots. Date is 06/13/16 so a day after episode 11.

tl;dr: Manga Machi's complex is cute, Anime Machi's complex is too exaggerated, that it becomes annoying.
This is honestly a pretty common mistake in anime-original contents in general. The director tries to emphasize the charm point, it end ups ruining the balance, changing the tone, and produces the opposite effect.

On the current topic. I don't know why they're bringing this up now. The controversy was dying down with the start of the new season, yet this move only serves to add more fuel to the fire. My opinion on this move is it's like they're pushing the blame on someone else.
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>>143819789
>I don't know why they're bringing this up now.
To bring more attention to the BDs I imagine.
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>>143819789
My opinion is that they're not pushing blame on anyone other than themselves but they don't think there's anything really blameworthy and I have to agree. There was no need for the fire to start in the first place. It may be a mistake to you but you don't actually think it's worth starting a fire for, do you?

They brought it up to stand their ground for their work that seemed unacceptable to so many fans and sell BDs, it's simple. Their studio is at stake here, they can't pretend that it didn't happen.
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>>143819789
Also tried translating the blurb
>「くまみこ」を応援して頂いている皆様へ
>To everyone that supported 'Kuma Miko"

>TVアニメーション「くまみこ」に関しまして、
In relation to the TV animation "Kuma Miko",
>まずは原作・月刊コミックフラッパー編集部の正式な許諾を得て、
Firstly, to the original work's, Comic Flapper's editorial department that gave their official content
>監督・脚本はじめアニメーション制作スタッフの総意と製作委員会合意の下、
To the Director, scripwriter, not to mention the animation production staff's consensus and under the agreement of the production committee,
>しかるべきプロセスを踏まえて制作されていることをご報告致します。
We hereby report that, through suitable process, we have finished the production.

>ひきつづき、コミック、アニメーション、
>「くまみこ」の応援をよろしくお願い申し上げます。
We hope for your continued support of the comic, and animation, "Kuma Miko".
Note:There's no mention of the author (原作者) at all, though admittedly I might have just misinterpreted some part
Note2: this is a 90% biased liberal translation..

Basically, the controversy was never really addressed in this post, and either people are looking way too deep into this, or this really is a very-roundabout way of pushing the blame on someone else. (like the way the had to mention the consent of production, and "suitable process" thing).
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>>143820451
*that gave their official consent
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>>143818477
>The studio just posted a statement indicating that they were satisfied and, allegedly, so were the people on the production including the publisher and author.
>Sales in the toilet.
>Writer was deleting accounts out of shame and trying to remove it from his wiki page as well as becoming a laughingstock for doing so.
>Mangaka originally made a blog post about not liking Yoshio's dialogue that she was forced to take down.

Yeah, I'm sure that they're all so satisfied.
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>>143820088
>My opinion is that they're not pushing blame on anyone other than themselves but they don't think there's anything really blameworthy and I have to agree

Irrelevant, the post you quoted was wondering why they even brought this up again in the first place. The controversy was already dying.

>>They brought it up to stand their ground for their work that seemed unacceptable to so many fans and sell BDs, it's simple.

Okay, but do they honestly believe it is going to make a difference? Most fans didn't like it, anyway. It is not like some words are going to change their opinion on the show.

>Their studio is at stake here, they can't pretend that it didn't happen.

Ow the drama.
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>>143814510
>>143814626
>>143814892
>>143815616
>Falling for that low quality bait.
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>>143820777
>>143819789 and >>143820451 here, I actually just properly read the blurb, and honestly, there's nothing unusual about a thank you message to the staff after an anime finishes.
That said it is a bit late, and mentioning consents and shit is kinda suspicious.
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I picked up the show later in the season.
and only after that I realized how dark this show was.
Putting a side the rape joke, the bestiality, what's scary about this show is that how children gets roped into doing pornography.
Machi wasn't idolized as priestess for the mountain gods, she was used as sex toy for the village people.
What we see is the story being told from machi's POV.
And that's why there aren't many young people in the village, because they preferred to leave instead of participating in those "rituals".
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>>143820638
They claimed they were. Where's your source that they were unhappy with their work and that these were deleted out of shame? Mind linking the apology? The sales have little to do with that statement.

>>143820777
They will never hear the end of it judging by the state of these fans. I doubt they expect them to change opinions but it is their right to state their stance on the matter.
>ow the drama
No shit it will hurt their business.
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If I understand that right, they mention having the consent of the editors from the magazine, not the author, right?
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It's a general statement thanking the staff and fans. Pretty much every series does this at the end of the series no matter how well it was recieved.

And don't expect a apology or acknowledgement of the dropping sales or fan backlash. Such things are very rare for a studio or business in general to do as it's seen as basically the suicide of your public image. Even the Kokoro connect apology statement was more "We're sorry you got upset" rather than "We're sorry for what we did" and the only reason they made an apology at all was that the series was only half over and they wanted to try to salvage the remaining sales.
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>>143821845
Only the last two lines are a generic "thanks for your continued support". The rest is them saying that they followed due process during the production, having the consensus of the staff and the approval of the editor. That's definitely not normal.
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