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Read the guide before asking questions.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
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>>143662101
First for WaniKani is the path to wisdom.
Why did you make a new thread? We already have one up: >>143694870
3rd for you're not as good as you think you are
このモデルをファックすれば
彼女は肛門が漂白しましたばかり
結果はtーシャツにブリーチがある
私はクソ野郎感じられるでしょう
anon-kuns pls help. Adjectives and nouns were a fucking dream compared to verbs.
When does it end? There's so many fucking conjugation rules. The tenses, the stems, the polite forms, the verb particles, jesus.
Verbs are the biggest topic within the language right? Tell me it doesn't get any worse than this.
What do I read to get this shit down
>>143711218
Verb conjugations are all part of "beginner grammar". Might as well complain about learning kana.
>>143711218
It's all pretty regular. I'll take Japanese verb conjugation rules over English any day.
>>143711218
>There's so many fucking conjugation rules
are we learning the same language
there's what, exactly 2 tenses? with only past tense having some rules to remember
and everything else just goes based on the 5 vowel sounds
it doesn't get any easier than japanese grammar, the hard part of this language is kanji
>>143711495
Kanji is a beginner meme. :^)
>トラック
>交通事故
Not even Anki is safe.
タイムマシンにゆられて・・また戻ってくれよー！！
>やっと一緒に歌うのができる
>>143711510
今日も一日レイプするぞい！
>>143711746
>>143711672
kanji is a native speaker meme
其he 新ew 法ethod 居s 此ere.
>tfw called a racist for referring to japanese kanji as "chinese characters"
>>143710515
Let's use this fir op next time
矮小陰茎
>>143711003
www
>>143712811
Kanji literally means "Chinese character". Tell whoever said that they're a fucking idiot.
にほんでまっているぞい
なつのにほんはおいしいものがいっぱいだよ
>>143712362
natives have no trouble reading kanji though
>>143712512
Does this work
>>143713146
Summer is fucking awful, you twat. I can't wait for it to end.
>>143713566
あせもになったり
ねっちゅうしょうになったり
ひやけしたりしないように
きをつけていればawfulなことないよ
>164 on j-cat
There's no way I'm an intermediate.
>>143714385
You seem to be good at guessing then
>>143713986
are you pretending to be japanese?
>>143712512
Wasn't there a Firefox extension that did this? I can't remember what it was called since it was a long time ago the last time I saw it.
Do you guys ever shop at asian supermarkets? There's one in my city and I love going there for stuff. It's a bit out of the way but it's worth a trip.
>>143714523
Found it
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/characterizer/
Probably worth a shot if you use that method.
mine onomatopoeia, yes or no?
>>143714628
at the local japanese dollar store, sure
i should really go to the local kinokuniya to get some nice reading material though
>>143712237
>>143711510
>tfw you realize you know enough Japanese to watch her anime without subs
出来る
>>143714874
don't get excited
that episode was easier than yuru yuri and ichigo mashimaro
>>143714874
I really need to practice my listening so I can stop being 出来ない
Social anxiety moe taken too far, no one without severe autism is actually this bad at talking with people.
![[Doki] New Game! - 01 (1280x720 h264 AAC) [43C77D3E].mkv_snapshot_19.58_[2016.07.05_10.44.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xQ06lbA.jpg "[Doki] New Game! - 01 (1280x720 h264 AAC) [43C77D3E].mkv_snapshot_19.58_[2016.07.05_10.44.42].jpg")
This goes with Japanese too.
Just started with this shit.
Am I too retarded if it takes me more than two days to learn ひらがな?
>>143715749
>Am I too retarded if it takes me more than two days to learn ひらがな?
no. just keep going
>>143715749
you're retarded for thinking its a race, yes
>>143714746
Know it? No. Don't know it? Yes.
>>143715749
Take your time.
>>143714469
いいこ
こわがらないで
>>143715413
>downloading subs for easiest show of the year
>>143715814
>>143715831
>>143715951
Thanks.
It actually is kind of good that this language is as easy to pronounce as my first language.
>>143716193
Japanese is the easiest language in the world in terms of pronunciation.
enjoying watching games done quick and all the turbo autists using the jap version of the game because the text scrolls faster and saves muh frames
>>143716247
Haha so autistic!
>>143716246
doesn't stop you from having an unerasable accent if you're an american EOP
>>143716247
it has nothing to do with faster or slower, it's just whatever the standard that people picked.
>>143716527
>it has nothing to do with faster or slower
kek
>>143716451
Let me guess. Having trouble pronouncing well stuff like the 'R' sound?
Some native Spanish speakers have trouble pronounce the English R sound and vice versa.
The R in Spanish sounds the same as the Japanese one, for reference.
>>143716730
Top kek!
>>143716795
>>143716730
Are you even learning anything or are you here just to utter memes?
>>143717225
>are you here just to utter memes?
...you're not?
>>143716771
>The R in Spanish sounds the same as the Japanese one, for reference.
Portuguese R also does.
>>143716771
no, i'm not bitter about my own accent, just being an asshole
i speak russian which has pretty much every sound japanese has and more
>the R in Spanish sounds the same as the Japanese one
it's somewhat close, but for one the japanese "R" can turn into what sounds like L and still be the japanese R, while the spanish one is sharp and more trilled and won't ever sound like like that
I've put in so much effort but the road ahead is endless.
>>143717930
がんばるぞいおにいちゃん
>>143717930
Endlessly fun!
>>143717930
The reading material is endless too. It's amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpgFkdltOzY
>>143719100
別に諦めてないよ
>>143719100
だて私が出来ない
![[RG Genshiken] Gintama - 042 [DVDRip 704x528 x264 AAC].mkv_snapshot_11.43_[2015.03.20_21.42.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GU7KvUs.jpg "[RG Genshiken] Gintama - 042 [DVDRip 704x528 x264 AAC].mkv_snapshot_11.43_[2015.03.20_21.42.30].jpg")
>>143719100
>2007 was 9 years ago
>>143719904
>2009 was 7 years ago
>>143719100
https://youtu.be/kfo1r06NxTo
Still feel like shit after going through this entire motivational video. The guy certainly is charismatic though.
>>143717930
Welcome to 日本 fucking 語
>>143714874
>tfw did too and thought I finall knew Japanese
>watch another anime
>can't understand shit
looks like there is an important difference between wanikani and anki in how they handle wrong cards. With wanikani, since you have to write the answer, you can decide not to check what the correct answer was. If you don't, and you get it right later, it counts as correct.
I'm not sure what effect this has on remembering and on the mental effort to do your reps.
>>143721863
What anime? Most anime has a pretty low vocab count. Honestly, if you know 2k+, you should be good from at least a vocab perspective on a wide variety of anime.
Obviously your listening skills also have to be competent.
Apparently wanikani shills are a real thing, people are talking about it on koohii and the Japanese reddit as well.
>>143722406
SAO2
>>143722406
Why are you spreading lies?
>>143722558
I'm >>143722389 just trying the demo.
>>143722732
I didn't even read your post, I was just commenting in general.
>>143722389
>>143722558
>>143722732
>>143722764
wait a second... don't tell me
you're shilling wanikani right now??
>>143722831
We've been rused, now time to move on.
>>143722663
What lies? You could literally watch almost every SoL/CGDCT anime assuming you did at least 2K.
>>143722869
2000 is basically nothing, that's a ridiculous statement to make.
>>143722998
>tfw core10k with cute girls failed so quick
Been trying to figure this out. I'm thinking it's something like "Rei thought, in an instant, "I have to change the subject, I can only do this if we're on a cheerful subject" but I know that's probably a loose interpretation at best. Anybody?
>>143722869
>You could literally watch almost every SoL/CGDCT anime assuming you did at least 2K.
This is definitely not true
>>143722869
I guess you haven't even reached 1k words. It's just plain wrong
Feel free to post your Anki stats
>>143723205
Where's your proof?
>>143710515
I'm too lazy to learn 2 alphabets + Chinese but I just wanted to say I appreciate this OP
>>143723087
Rei instantly thought, "I have to change the subject, and so much as it's possible, to a cheerful one."
I think.
>>143722998
I wish there was an Anime Core, that'd make me motivated af
>>143710515
Anyone know of an Anki deck with Slang/Vulgar language?
I want to translate Doujin.I want to abuse the Japanese language
>>143723388
>wanting to translate
Failed before you even started, but to answer your question, there are but they all suck. Just read doujin.
>>143723388
compare raws with translations that aren't trash
most doujin translations are fucking horrendous, so you have plenty of examples of what not to do to work with
>>143723388
>I want to translate Doujin.
Just don't.
>>143723267
Not this /a/non but stating something, without any proof, and then asking other /a/nons with a different 'opinion' for a proof doesn't make any sense. You are either trolling or you are pretty new to this.
Here's somewhat of a 'proof'
>The 10,000 most frequent words accounted for 92% of all occurrences, the top 5000 accounted for 86%, the top 2000 accounted for 76%, and the top 1000 accounted for 68%.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists/Japanese
>>143723388
You can google most slang. There are many explanations in Japanese on the web for almost anything. There are also some slang dictionaries (in Japanese). Just google
Approaching 17000 vocab cards from mining and I still haven't finished core6k
>>143723601
Half way to fluency, good luck!
>>143723424
>>143723471
The simple fact there are people who don't want me to do something makes me want to do it all the more.
You can't discourage me!
>>143723683
We don't even need to discourage you. You'll discourage yourself.
>>143723601
How do you format your cards after you mine?
Awww yisss! I did it! I managed to get a job as an English teacher in Japan starting this September. Right now I know around 200 Kanji, but until September I hope to learn at least 400-500 more. Hopefully that should be enough to navigate around...
>>143723896
I'm lazy so I just use the same card type as core where front is kanji and back is just kana + definition, if I tend to forget the kanji then I manually edit to display it in furigana instead, takes a few seconds.
>>143723794
I don't think that's gonna happen.
I'm feeling pretty encouraged learning this language.
Is it really so bad that I'm thinking about how I'm going to use it once I've reached an adequate fluency?
Serious question here: what do you plan on doing once you've reached fluency?My last Charmander isn't meant for blue boards, ignore it
>>143723912
These baits are becoming more and more elaborated.
>>143723912
How did you get it and where?
I heard they are not so good payd
>>143723912
高校ですか
>>143723973
How's 4chan compared to reddit? You like it?
>>143723973
My god just shut the fuck up
>My last Charmander isn't meant for blue boards
You're not meant for this place
>>143723973
I plan on making it in the LN industry
>>143723976
Through Gaijinjobs in Fukuoka. Any advice?
>>143723974
Sorry, I guess this happens often and is considered bait here? Or did I say something stupid?
>>143723978
私学です!
>>143724069
Your not meant for this place
>>143723973
>what do you plan on doing once you've reached fluency?
Definitely not shitting badly translated garbage for EOP's.
>>143723332
Thank you, I appreciate it. I had always wanted to have some variety in the OPs, so when everyone decided alternate images were okay I've made it a hobby to make and post a neat one once in a while.
>>143723962
Forgot to mention I also mine the source sentence with the card, and I use the stroke order add-on so I can usually see the kanji on the back of the card anyway and don't have to edit manually.
>>143724124
Why are you referring to yourself using second person pronouns?
>>143724124
So you are the faggot who changed the OP? No one decided this, we did over 1300 threads without having different OP so no need to change it
>>143724124
I prefer jamal's OP image
>>143723267
Ok, here's the word list generated by JTAT for episode 7 of K-ON, filtering out any word that appears in the 2015 version of Core2k
Of course there's different conjugations of verbs and different okurigana not getting filtered but you can still see that core2k doesn't contain a lot of common words like お知らせ and 見かねる.
>>143724257
no need not to change it either bub
>>143724300
wow he got btfo
>>143724202
Who do you think you're talking to, you little bitch? I'm DJT's foremost OP maker. My only competition is whoever made the Osaka and Miku OPs. They don't even come close to my prowess, you ファックぼうや
>started marking cards in anki to review readings on a while back
>set up the custom study but never actually do it
>find out today I have a fuck ton of cards sitting in limbo because custom study removed them from their main deck
私を殺してください
>>143724300
>(v1,vt) to be unable to let pass unnoticed
Why the fuck do the Japanese have to have a word for THAT?
>>143724367
d e e p ぽst huh
>>143724406
it's actually just 見る plus 兼ねる
tae kim covers かねる actually but that's in the advanced section so i guess everybody forgets it
>春分 is a word in core
>tfw you run into phrases that have no readily apparent search results and your comprehension stops dead
>>143724589
Does your face somehow turn into an animal? Or perhaps your whole body? How does it work exactly?
>has over 1k cards to review on core
Do I just keep hitting hard? How should I do this and get back on track?
>>143724589
>tfw ESL tries to use English
Www (this means lol in Japanese)
>>143724672
Power through.
>>143724300
Actually, I messed up, disregard that post. See, I'd filtered the subs against the entire Core6k. (and there were STILL words missing.)
Here's the corrected version using only the actual Core2k, about 100 words less got filtered.
It's a pity about 落ち着く, it's #2377... so close.
>>143724638
>mfw he thinks the f in tfw means face
あさってはたなばただよ
おにいちゃんのねがいはなに？
>>143724688
You're right. I had a good laugh at your english.
>>143724707
>>143724688
I put "apparent" instead of "available" so I'm an ESL, cool shit man
>>143724729
うまくになりたい
>>143724793
>>143724583
社説 is too, something i barely see in english
but dont sweat it because our brains dont actually have a limit on this shit
and the more useless the word is the more it hurts dekinaichanat least thats what i tell myself as i cry to sleep everynight
>>143724729
Why do you never use kanji?
>>143724761
you're overthinking it, he's just a retard
>>143724709
I-I guess so. がんばります
>>143724719
can you do it against anon core 5k
>>143724729
俺の人生はもう完璧だから
願いなんて要らないよ
I watched
>>143724589
But seriously, this is really annoying. Not really sure what to do about it other than maybe find native speakers and ask about the really baffling stuff, then again that's easier said than done.
does anyone know how to get ithvnr to work properly with nanatsuiro drops
>>143725077
post examples
it's probably either obvious from context, or you suck at searching for stuff
either way you できない
>>143725077
post on hi-native, interpals or somewhere. Or google and read japanese yahoo
>>143725112
what's the problem senpai
>>143725171
it wont hook full sentences
I've been on /a/ for years and barely visited /djt/, now it's the thread I spend most of my time. I want to git gud together with 無名達!
だから諦めな/い
>>143725209
looks like the engine is trying really hard to be smart
try different hook addresses in the dropdown with GDI32.dll, or look for someone that had to use ithvnr on it before
worst case scenario, try out all different kinds of texthooker
>>143725209
>>143725253
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/143146872/#143158319
Follow the backlinks
>>143725288
>For anyone who might be wondering you just put the hook code where it says "here"
what code though
>>143725371
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22nanatsuiro%22+ITH+hook+code&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
>>143725232
Your shitty sentence structure pisses me off.
お前の構文はいらつくんだよ。
>>143725956
てめえの母をファックしたぜ
>tfw your handwriting is shit even in Japanese
This isn't how it was supposed to be.
>>143725956
>mfw I don't even know English
おりひめとひこぼしって
どんなはなしだっけ
もともとはたいりくのはなしなのかな
>>143726089
>even in Japanese
Well what the hell did you expect?
>Tfw 75% retention on rtk but don't want to lower my new cards because I just want to get it over and done with
>>143728417
Add more new cards then. It will go by faster.
>>143727824
日本人＝猿
>簿
>薄
Do you feel like it's a good idea to start reading something when you're still "reviewing for JLPT N5"?
![[Doki] New Game! - 01 (1280x720 h264 AAC) [43C77D3E]_Jul 5, 2016, 03.17.56.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7S6pFwH.jpg "[Doki] New Game! - 01 (1280x720 h264 AAC) [43C77D3E]_Jul 5, 2016, 03.17.56.jpg")
ニューゲームのスレで荒らすことが超楽しい！
>>143728651
Would be pointless if I wasn't remembering like half of them though
>>143728848
Is there anyone uploading New Game with jap subs? I'll pick it up if I can use subs for every ep
>>143729166
I honestly don't think you'll need subs for this one, it's extremely easy, this coming from someone who has watched barely any non-subbed anime in the past
Give the first episode a try
>>143729253
My listening comprehensions pretty awful but I suppose I could give it a go
>>143728842
you could get your JLPT N5 halfway through a middle school course on japanese so either that's a typo or that redditor is horribly misinformed
I'm surprised that a huge number of weaboos in /a/, jewbook, reddit, and in real life don't know how to speak Japanese.
>>143729570
why are you surprised
>>143729570
I find it the opposite tho, the vast majority of weebs don't give a shit about accomplishing anything, let alone doing anything that even remotely requires some type of effort
>>143729337
I think you underestimate how shit middle school courses on Japanese are. I literally learned "konnichiwa" and "sayonara" and a few numbers and that's it. Not even kana.
>>143729623
>>143729650
Well, I consider myself weaboo and I thought my case is the same as other weaboos too.
>>143729728
Either you're not a weeb or you are in the minuscule minority
>>143729717
maybe
i never actually was in one
i do remember people drilling kana flashcards back in my middle school though, even showing off some kanji occasionally, but it was probably simple stuff like 黒
not like N5's requirements are particularly steep
So apart from New Game, what anime is /djt/ enjoying/planning to enjoy without subs this season?
>>143729999
ショウ・マイ・コックの新期を字幕なしで見試してみたい
how do you say "ntr" in japanese
>>143730236
寝取られ
i really cant handle this anime grammar in hanahira
whats another easy vn i can read
>>143730280
hlyable feart
>>143730280
Det Våras För Lilljorna
>>143730488
>The sky is dark for the stars are in this game!
>>143730488Åh herre gud, varför är detta en grej?
>>143730488
oh damn i got mem'd :^(
がんばって、djtさんたち
I really have to stop trying to translate manga when I barely know what I'm doing. Was trying my hand at translating a chapter of something for a project done by a couple of friends of mine and when my translator friend(who has studied regularly for 5+ years) got back to me with some notes on what I did, most of it was correct but some things were totally off on my part and it made me wonder what the fuck was going through my head.
I guess long story short don't try to translate shit for practice, it doesn't help.
>>143730980
>>143729770
I don't understand what this means and it looks so easy.
>>143730980
>Don't translate when you're shit
I never would have guessed
To be fair I'm sure translating for practice is fine, just not when you intend to actually upload your translations for other people
うるうる
うるめいわし！
Does someone know the Kanji which consists of 3x 七? I saw it yesterday somewhere, but forget to add it. It's a non common Kanji so it doesn't show up on any dictionary where u can look with the radicals. The meaning was 70. birthday or something
>>143731180
あのロリお尻は柔らかそう
>>143731123
This
>>143730980
It is still go practice and you only learn by doing.
>>143731265
Translating assumes you already grasp the core meaning behind something, and all the work is transferring that meaning into another language.
Translating when you don't grasp the core meaning is not good practice. It's like playing tennis with an unstrung racket.
>>143731337
But he said he almost got everything except for some things that were off. Obviously he shouldn't upload his work, but as practice it's perfectly fine.
>>143731213
「喜」の字の異字体かなにかだったんじゃないかなあとおもうよ
ひょうじできないかもしれない
>㐂
江戸時代からつづいてるような店の名前でみかけるよ
おそばやさんとか、うどんやさんとか、はたごとかの店名だよ
>>143731113
>#3
The world is made/built on someone else's work
>>143731549
で should have been my clue. Thank you, I was just reading it the wrong way.
>>143730980
If your friend doesn't mind helping you, it's probably really great practice.
>>143730980
>when my translator friend(who has studied regularly for 5+ years)
That seems like ok practice if he wants to tutor you.I wish I had friends who studied moon
>>143731830
>I wish I had friends who studied moon
I know that feel, would be such an advantage
>>143731503
>おそばやさんとか、うどんやさんとか
よくも、おなかいたいよ
>>143731830
>>143731864
But anon we're all friends here
I keep thinking conjugated する verbs are す verbs and it's quite annoying
>>143731397
What I was trying to get across is that translation is a name for a process completed after you have a full Japaense understanding of a sentence or passage, and doing it before you can attain that is misguided.
The point where you run into a sentence you don't have full confidence in is the point where you should skip it, or stop translating and learn more Japanese before trying again.
Additionally, if you can only comprehend simple Japanese sentences well, this will mean translation for you is very simple because transferring simple meanings to English is very simple. You won't get real good translation practice until you're faced with something more complex and nuanced.
>>143731905
てんぷら、筆舌に盡し難い花付きを揚げられる店をみつけたら運がいいよ
>>143731265
>It is still go practice and you only learn by doing.
When you begin presenting specialized information to people who aren't in a position to know that information, you're taking on the role of an authority, not a student. As the listener isn't in a position to know better, they'll assume that what you're saying is true. When the person who's taken on the role of the authority isn't qualified to be in that role, this is where the spread of incorrect information often begins.
Also, beyond that, it's inefficient as practice material. Your goal is to leave English behind and get into that Japanese mindset, not constantly go back to English. It's also a waste of time that could be better spent acquiring more exposure.
Learn Japanese, then you can begin thinking about translating Japanese if you're still interested.
Do Japanese people usually drop the い in ___ている? I've seen it both ways, ている and てる。Is てる even more informal?
>>143732636
I've seen it as てる way more times than I've seen it as ている
The い just kind of naturally drops in casual spoken conversation
>>143732226
花形のてんぷら店は？ それとも飾る？
What did he mean by this?
>>143733084
When did Imabi get a white background
>>143733666
>666
>>143733689
Good thing too since I just realised Imabi does have a white background and I'm just retarded
>>143733755
imabi this imabi that
gotta be onest wif ya bruv, its all japanese 2 me innt
>>143716246
That one goes to Finnish my friend
100% phonetic writing
>>143733689
>>143733990
kek きょうく
>>143733084
I don't know. I dropped Imabi after a few lessons because his English, despite being a native speaker, was somehow worse than Tae Kim's. I don't think I read a single lesson without encountering multiple serious grammatical errors.
If that's the level of thought he put into writing the English parts of his guide, it raises concerns about the Japanese portions.
>>143731213
このですか。
>>143732756
もったりしていなくて
さくさくしている衣を
花っていうんだよ
ほうげんかもしれないけど
So, there's this girl who likes to sew and knit, and a male says:
毛糸のパンツのことを巷ではそういんだってね。
What the heck is the いん doing there, そうだって would be no problem.
教えてください！
What verb is usually used for "to punch?" 打つ?
>>143734154
>このですか。
>>143734411
Probably should be そういうんだってね
>>143732368
But how are you gonna learn Japanese if you're supposed to practice it?
>>143732368
t. N4
>>143734411
"They say knit panties are called like that."
>>143734901
Why would you practice English if you're learning Japanese? You either know what's written in Japanese and there should be no problem with translating it (given you're not dyslexic and know your own native language) or you don't know what's written in Japanese and should work on your reading comprehension instead of wasting time translating shit you don't understand.
>>143734672
should add this to the op image
>>143724257
spot the newfag
the thread was originally kanji spam images
How do people train in becoming a translator? We all know that translating is not the same as just understanding.
>>143733084
Imabi is written by a total sperg and the funny thing is he can't grasp why people don't like his site
maggiesensei, nihongodaybyday, vjg are better beginner resources
when you're looking to understand detailed nuances please stick to sites or books written by actual japanese. the chances that any gaijin straight out of college fully understands the japanese mindset is practically zero.
>>143735353
By reading a lot of shit in the language you're translating into
The answer is always read more
>>143735353
Translators need writing and editing skills.
>>143735413
t. CGRascal
おにいちゃんおなかすいた
いそべあげたべたい
>>143735353
A translator is usually a shit writer, just grind your reading comprehension and you should be okay.
>>143735520
うせーよ、自分で自分の料理を作ってろお前
>>143735353
translating is a job
interpreting is an art
both are undervalued in work:money ratio
If there is a te form verb with nothing after it is it safe to assume its a request?
