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>4-dimensional dempsey roll finally happened PUNCH HARDER
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>4-dimensional dempsey roll finally happened

PUNCH HARDER KID PUNCH HARDER
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>>143627901
do you want to know how he did it?
YAMATO DAMASHI
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Truly his muscles have become pure oxygen.

Still 35 years worth of fights to go at the current pace before Ippo is done fighting. I don't think George is going to live long enough.
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>>143628152
Maybe Morikawa the Second will make sure he'll kiss Kumi before we die.
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>be ippo
>fight till my muscles gets sore and have no oyygen left
>enemy punches so hard i fell exactly 1 cm above the floor
>while falling remember all the people supporting me
>remember training with sensei
>get up as i almost hit the floor with 5 mm space inbetween
>do super duper jet sounding air cracking sonic boom dempsey roll
>win match
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>>143630172
>Fries rain all over the hall
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>>143627934
>That's my Secret Coach
>I'm always Yamato Damashii
>*Elephant Noise*
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>>143627901
>4-dimensional
This is brilliant, no wonder the coach is world renowned. How can a boxer block a punch that hits him before it was even thrown?
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>>143630570

Up, down, left, right, forward, back

6 DIMENSIONS! Truly inspired.
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>>143630599
up =-down
left = -right
forward = -back
thats 3 dimensions.
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>>143630172
GLOVES FOLDED 1000x
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Man, he's gonna need a lot of oxygen for that.
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>>143630840

His muscles don't even hurt when he uses it, the only downside is he looks like a spastic when doing it
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>>143630840
If he needs extra oxygen maybe he can replace his normal intake of h20 with h202.
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>>143630951

At least he can teach yoga after he retires.
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Remember that one time Ippo destroyed some guy just by doing basic 1-2s? That was fun, i barely even remember it anymore, probably because ti must have been over 500 fucking chapters ago.

Also that time he shat all over itagaki on the beach.
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>>143631083

Ippo destroying Karasawa was great, too bad it was his last good fight and it happened years ago.

Now that Aokimura and Ippo seem to be ready for their final storylines, I'd hope Itagaki and Takamura get there soon too. I wonder what Morikawa plans to do with Takamura since there is really no reason for him to still be in the middleweight division if he really will conquer all the divisions up to the heavyweight
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>>143631183
>>143631083

Never again
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>>143631458
>that artwork
what the fuck happened
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>>143631458
>literally JUST tier hair
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>>143631458
>>143631513

He sacrificed the ability to draw muscles to gain the ability to draw french fries.
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>>143628191
What if he fucks the reporter?
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>>143631554
ippo has always been a cuck
the series really is how ippo is such a big fucking cuck that not even takamura coaching him into alphaness can fix it
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>>143630804
I'm dying.
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>>143631513
>>143631571
>>143631458

His artwork truly was on another level back then.
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>>143631874

truly
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>>143630804
I was literally choking.
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The early art, especially for Kamogawa, looks hilarious now
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>>143632393
so when did the gym suddenly become hardcore and make everybody leave? The early chapters had alot of members in the gym.
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>>143630200
the french fries are my favourite part of this manga desu.
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>>143633065
They moved on with their lives.
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>>143631183
Man why does everyone shit on Scratch J?
Sure it wasn't Ippo vs Sendo or Ippo vs Karasawa or even Ippo vs Ryuhei
But it's still leagues better than his last two title defenses and his other 2 Intercontinental bouts, and better than a LOT of his forgettable bouts like against the Date copycat, Saeki, and the overhyped match with the pretty boy
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>>143633494
The fight wwasn't even that bad.If you read it, you'd see Ippo actually dominating Scratch J.
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>>143633494

It wasn't that bad, but the whole character was dumb and in the end served no purpose other than showing Ippo's dempsey uppercut which was then forgotten for 400 chapters.

I remember that during the fight people actually thought Ippo was going to kill him in the ring, heh
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>>143632393
God damn, he reminds me of the asshole teacher in battle royale.
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>>143632393
Jesus fucking Christ.

Kumagawa literally received the Part 7 Valentine treatment
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I unironically love Hajime no Ippo
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>>143634542

I really liked up until the fight between Itagaki and the speed star or whatever was his name, he had a ponytail. I mean, i didn't like Woli or that guy with the magic glove, but it was in that itagaki fight that i gave up hope.

It had some good moments since then, but ever since that fight i lost whatever "love" i had for the manga.
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>>143630610
left = forward * i
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>>143627901

Doesn't seem like its enough to stop Martinez from jabbing him to death.
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>>143634661
And yet, Vorg had a tremendous fight.
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>>143634542

So do I, it has good characters, the slice of life chapters are usually great and the fights used to be good too. It has gotten worse over time though, the pacing is terrible and I can't even remember what was the last good fight.

I think Ippo has three fights left in him, so the series might be closing to the end, but I really wonder what Morikawa is planning with Takamura.
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>>143631874
That's some large balls.
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>>143634735

We also had this, but still, that itagaki vs speedstar fight just killed me, it took like a million years and it was probably one of the most boring most stupid fights in the manga.
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>>143631513
>>143631571
>>143631874
Fun fact, Kentaro Miura was working as an assistant to Morikawa up until around 1997. Miura left due to no longer being able to handle (at the time) weekly Berserk releases while also doing his job as an assistant. It was a while after this that the art really started to tank.
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>>143634661
Itagaki getting his "Chronos" nickname was pretty tacky I admit. I understand that as you practice some things just one day click and you understand everything but the way he did it was kinda like it was one of those football manga/anime.

But I like having Itagaki as another promising boxer in the Kumagawa gym.

>>143634765
Ippo MUST get :getting back in the ring match,his rival match against Miyata, World title qualifying match, World title match itself and possibly an unofficial Itagaki match. I guess that makes it 4.5 must have matches.
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>>143634735

Vorg is one of the best fighters in the series. He just has a bad habit of running into plot armor.
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>>143635012
>Vorg asks Ippos mom to say "Spasibo"

;_;
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Ippo is so shit but the boys are so god tier fuckable why this
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>>143635005
It could very fast once Ippo gets his resolve back. THe whole Aokimura vs Marron fight seems like George trying very hard to make us forgot how shitty Kamogawa is, as a coach. All the "Coach Kamogawa never treats us like that etc." shit is completely transparent.
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>>143635081

Who's the guy in the middle, i recognize Ippo, Sendo, Vorg and Itagaki.
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>>143635145
Miyata?
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>>143635045
>>143635012
>>143635081
Volg best boi

>>143635145
Dude it's Miyata
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>>143635141
Yeah. Kumagawa does the same thing but not so bluntly and just tells them to train their muscles instead of straight up strategy.
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>>143635183
>>143635188

I don't even remember him having spiky hair, i thought it was Itagaki's rival, what'shisface that sent him to hell.
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>>143635005

I think the Itagaki match can be forgotten, it was teased but Imai humbled him and will most likely be his final opponent.

Four matches is possible, but I believe his match with Miyata will be a spar and the result is never shown.
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>>143635226
Imai? Nah, I mean, I didn't recognize Miyata, but since you identified Ippo, Sendo and Vorg..
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>>143635005

It's not really about practice. They have built Itagaki up as being naturally gifted, generational talent that was just starting to understand what he's capable of. The question is, why?
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>>143635231
his world title qualifying match could be against Miyata since he's 7th(?) ranked in the world atm.

>>143635281
some people are just naturals I guess
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>>143635141

What resolve? Once in awhile he sets a goal but for the most part he just does what people expect of him. He has no real desire to fight Martinez but is going that path because people want him to.
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>>143635345
Early on, his motive was "FInd out what it means to be strong". He forgot about it. But he has,wether or not he had motivation before, to find something. Leave humanity in a sense. He's already well on his way since he is a kissless virgin and all..
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>>143635345

Sendo will be his motivation, Martinez destroys him in their match and Ippo realizes his goal

>>143635327

Miyata should not stay in the featherweight division and his next match could be for a title, so I doubt it
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Haven't read anything past the last season of the anime,except some random chapters once a while.
Can someone explain to me why this guy looks like a corpse?
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>>143635486

He'll need more than that. Martinez already noted he eat boxers out for revenge for breakfast.
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>>143635568
Who? Oh, it's because Marron is using him like a puppet.
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>>143635410

Yea, but that was pointed out to be a vague as fuck goal with no real answer. The dude is just passive and its been its biggest flaw for years that they have tried to correct multiple times. I even remember the old man got pissed at him because Nao was showing more drive and determination than him.

Not to mention he tried to get the baton to Itagaki.
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>>143635908
That's Kamogawa's fault for not actually coaching Ippo since he became Japan's champion.
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This is one of my favorite anime ever, I refraind from reading the manga further in hopes that Madhouse will continue someday.
That said, why is everybody in this thread shitting on Ippo? Did the manga turn into complete shit sometimes after the events the anime covers? Is it already shit in the anime covered chapters already in your eyes? Because if it's the latter, you all have shit taste.
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>>143636249

The anime hasn't even gotten to the start of the downward spiral.
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>>143636249
Imagine if every fight was as bad as Ippo v puke-kouhai.
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>>143636249

Where did the anime end? If it was around the Takamura vs Eagle fight, the series will go downhill from there. Only couple of good fights in the 600 chapters the anime hasnt covered
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>>143636958
It ended with a Kamogawa flashback arc.
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>>143633494
PUNCH OF HEALING!
NEVER MIND THAT HE'S ENDED MORE CAREERS THAN MASHIBA
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>>143637092

Oh, right. That shit was great, though in the manga it happened earlier, right after the Hawk match
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Ippo's showing signs of being punch dunk right. So is he going to die in the end like Joe or just Yamato dashii away the brain damage.
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>>143637235
That punch though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bggK1a5EEE4

Best punch in the history of anything.
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>>143630570
Opponent has a perfect guard? Punch him from a direction he didn't even know existed.
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>>143636312
>>143636900
>>143636958
>>143637235
>>143637299

I see, thanks for the heads up. It's kind of disappointing to hear, but that may also explain why Madhouse isn't in a hurry to to proceed with the adaptation.
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>>143637394
I think you mean break down the perfect guard by punching it more until it stops being perfect.
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>>143637092
The flashback was moved further back though, to after the Eagle fight.
In the manga it's after the Hawk fight.
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>>143636249
Yes.
I really enjoyed the anime too by far one of the best sports anime I've seen and got really hooked and went to read the manga.
But then you slowly start to realize how unbelievably painful the pacing is and how utterly predictable every outcome of every fight is. The anime was a bit predictable too but nothing you couldn't brush of easily, but as the series progresses you can literally guess every little thing.
Then you have tons of inconsistency in the characters and on what he tries portray, and the absolute Naruto tier yamato damashi shit and asspull powers etc, again there was already a bit of nakama power in the anime but nothing compared to now.

All of these things by themselves don't make it bad but when it all starts pilling up more and more combined with having to deal with them through the unbearable pacing it gets hard to enjoy.
Honestly I'll keep reading this because HNI is kinda special to me and it's not that bad that I'd want to drop it, but it's nowhere near as what it was for me, the only things that still make it truly fun for me are the rare SoL chapters of the gang doing stupid shit, and even that is getting worse.
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>>143630804
Oh fuck my sides
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>>143628191
>fucking the reporter
>not fucking the doctor/masseuse
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>>143631019
Underrated. He actually probably needs some SO4 in his H2 to truly unlock his potential.
>family of chemists
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>>143637474
look up how many adaptations madhouse as done then look up how many second seasons they have

this should be common knowledge to anyone on /a/
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>>143637763
>even that is getting worse.
There's still very golden moments.
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>people still giving fuck about this shit series

Dropped this shit hard at stupid wollly saga.
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>>143634542

Ditto but the complete mishandling of Aoki and Kimura is criminal, Takamura has been spinning his wheels for YEARS and Ippo has had some real fucking still stinkers.

Last truly fun Ippo fight was vs the Magician IMO, which was also a lot of fun art and jokes.
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>>143638786

I enjoy most of the low tiet fights but Wolly was the first time I felt ripped off. Literally 20 chapters of nothing happening and then a fucking "oh he tapped me there goes half my life's breath" win.
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>>143634841
>Fun fact, Kentaro Miura was working as an assistant to Morikawa up until around 1997. Miura left due to no longer being able to handle (at the time) weekly Berserk releases while also doing his job as an assistant. It was a while after this that the art really started to tank.

Miura was only an assistant for Morikawa for roughly a year, in 1988, after putting out the Berserk prototype. From 1989 onward he worked on Berserk as an actual series, the same year Hajime no Ippo started.
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>>143639089
Magician was fucking horrible.
>lol my gloves extend 5 cm

The stand off one punch KO was best.
>literally nothing happening with good art
That's when the series got good again.
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>>143639301

I'm a sucker or "opponent outsmarts guy renowned for his determination" set ups. And the comedy was on point.

Maybe not the best pure fight but fun enough. The glove thing was just an extension of mind games and making Ippo tilt.
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>>143639089

I believe Aokimura are going to enjoy some spotlight soon, even if Kimura does retire. I agree on Takamura though, I don't understand why Bison wasnt a champion in an upper weight class

I thought the magician fight was a mess, but that is because Morikawa has been terrible at pacing the fights lately. 25 chapters is way too much especially for an Ippo match
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>>143639376
>I don't understand why Bison wasnt a champion in an upper weight class

Because there had to be something to justify all those joke matches Takamura was having, when the theme was that he wasn't taking shit seriously.

Also, since we were already given that tease about Vorg literally being in line for a unification match, in the future, since everyone in America was ducking him, it makes since that Morikawa made Takamura a unified champ first.
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>>143639301
>Magician was fucking horrible.

Truth. But I like that Morikawa actually touched on the prospect of fixed fights with Gedo. Also, dat Heart-Break Hook from Ippo was hype as fuck.

The actual match was shit, but the fact that it was literally due to Aoki that Ippo won redeems the match more than that shitfest that was Woli.
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>>143631458
Around which chapter was this?
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Did Dynamite Glove ever come back up?
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>>143639741
>Did Dynamite Glove ever come back up?

No. But I believe they moved to proboards temporary.
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>>143639741
>>143640059

http://westbound3.proboards.com/ I don't think they'll ever get DG back up, but I believe the guy who provides the Hajime no Ippo RAWs and translations, whenever MS falls behind posts here.
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This shit is getting hilariously bad
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>>143639695

582 is when it starts.
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So what are some good similar mangas to Ippo? I've been reading Kohinata Minoru, seems ok.
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>>143627901
Has Ippo fucked Kumi yet? I mean 1000+ chapters and I don't even think he's kissed her yet.
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>>143640965

He hasn't.
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>>143640965
>>Has Ippo fucked Kumi yet? I mean 1000+ chapters and I don't even think he's kissed her yet.

She's seen his cock already and is in good with his mom. They're practically married. There's no need for kissing.
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>>143640881

There's this boxing manga named RRR, some characters are rip offs from HnI but it was quite fun, and in some ways better than HnI
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>>143641053
I bet they hold hands in public, the degenerates.
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>>143640965
I don't think they've even been straightforward about each other feelings yet either. Ippo is literally worse than a highschooler
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>>143640881
History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi, has the same pros and cons Ippo does but with more cute girls.
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>>143641075

I read that a few years back, I honestly really enjoyed it. Seemed to end abruptly though, I imagine he either got bored of it or was made to end it somewhat fast but the ride was good while it lasted.

Art was pretty great as well.
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>>143641204
>History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi

Fell off a cliff when Apacha didn't die. In every single way that's important the series fails and never recovers. It's literally only good for fapbait.
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>>143641272
It got canned IIRC.
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>>143641313
I don't disagree with you. I do think it's like Ippo though, partly because of stuff like that even.
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>>143630804
thanks breh
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>>143641313

I don't think there's a series other than Bleach that can shit the bed as hard as HSD: K did. At least Hajime no Ippo still has Aokimura, its legendary Slice of Life chapters and occasionally a decent match.

It sucks that Kenichi's masters who started off as one of the best parts about the series are what ultimately ruined a series that should have just been about the disciplines fighting and saving the master battles for a spin-off/prequel series.
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>>143638743
>you'll never see ippo fuck the masseuse
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>>143640881
Teppu for me does right everything that Ippo does wrong, it's a shame it's only 30ish chapters, I'd give a kidney for it to be as long as Ippo
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>>143641639
>>143640881
All Rounder Meguru is pretty tight too. The release schedule is never-ever tier tho. Didn't Teppu's author have exploding intestines or something and that's why it ended?
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>>143640881
All Rounder Meguru, though the scanlation effort for that is slow
Ring Ni Kakero is like a weird mix of Ippo, Joe, and Saint Seiya. Scanlation is still early on in it though
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>>143641313
>Apacha didn't die
I stopped reading a little after that.

And a time later I saw it had finished and read the last chapter to see that he finally got her booty
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>>143640965
They are pretty much a couple at this point. Unless they try to add more relationship drama like with that Sanada guy. Where she tells Ippo that she was going to cheer for Sanada instead of him, right after he confessed to her.

Honestly, he should have gone for the christmas cake doctor who's interested in him after that.
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>>143638743
this is fucking hilarious
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>>143641598

Yes. Especially since she wants the D so bad she flat out tells Takamura Ippo's cock is bigger.

>>143641313
>Fell off a cliff when Apacha didn't die

I could accept this if the author ended up killing off a few of Kenichi's masters, but nope. Yet the salary-man disciple with he glasses gets murdered for the sake of drama. Fuck that series.
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>>143640881
Read more Sports manga in general, it's my personal favorite genre nowadays. Ashita no Joe, Slam Dunk, Real, Giant Killing, All Rounder Meguru, Touch, Teppu, Kokou no Hito, Ping Pong, it's all fun shit.
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>>143641766

I ended up sticking with it all the way through and was thoroughly disappointed.

>>143641639

I wish Teppu's characters were half as good as Hajime no Ippo's. Ippo is the only series where the author consistently writes characters you want to root for; for the majority of the series I found myself rooting for Ippo's opponents and Ippo himself, on those rare occasions. It's a shame that the more recent Ippo anime have been fucking trash and gutted everything that made this last stretch of the series good.
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>>143642087
>It's a shame that the more recent Ippo anime have been fucking trash and gutted everything that made this last stretch of the series good.

I'm still mad. Fuck Rising.
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>>143632393
This is what Mashiba looked like in his first appearance.
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>>143642297
>>143632393

One of the best parts about reading Hajime no Ippo is watching George's art change over the years. I don't care much for the hungry skeleton style he switched to more recently, but I understand why he switched it, once he started working with actual real life boxers.
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>>143642433
I'm pretty sure he switched to it to save time when drawing. His anatomy is so cartoony you can't take it seriously. I really prefer his older style, with the best being around chapter 120, give or take 30.
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Don´t read manga, but did my boy Kimura at least win Japan championship ? I fucking cried when he couldn´t win agaisnt Mashiba.
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>>143641844

At this point, I think it would be pointless to add more relationship drama than what's already there. I mean, Ippo literally destroyed Sawamura to the point he physically could not compete at featherweight anymore for hitting Kumi.

Just be thankful Morikawa decided to spare us a love-triangle with Itagaki chasing after Kumi.

>>143642686
>I'm pretty sure he switched to it to save time when drawing. His anatomy is so cartoony you can't take it seriously. I really prefer his older style, with the best being around chapter 120, give or take 30.

I\d believe this if Morikawa wasn't notorious for being a workaholic. The more likely reason is that there was a possibly a serious backlash after the Shimabokuro fight. There's no way a guy that ripped could be featherweight.
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>>143642232
>Fuck Rising.

How can you fuck up that badly when you have all that source material to draw from?
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>>143641686
He had some kind of cancer
>>143642087
Yeah but you can't compare the development for something with 30 chapter with something 1100+
And Rising was heaven compared to how he shits on the characters like kimura and aoki now
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>>143642232

I didn't follow the anime, but did they really skip Sawamura's background and his history with Sendo?
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>>143643135
>And Rising was heaven compared to how he shits on the characters like kimura and aoki now

Rising was shit because they couldn't get the little bit of characterization Aoki, Ippo, Sawamura and Takamura gets right. The fact that the best part from Rising was literally the OVA they tacked on at the end solely because Kamogawa's VA passed away is pretty sad; that Nekota's VA would also pass away, shortly before Rising started made that they dedicated the series to them kind of insulting, when the Young Kamogawa arc was supposed to be released separately anyway.

>>143643594
>I didn't follow the anime, but did they really skip Sawamura's background and his history with Sendo?

They not only skipped Sawamura's background, they gutted his character, but his relationship with his teacher and didn't even give him the post-match scene where Sendo reveals the truth about Sawamura's teacher, so we don't even get the scene where he's moved to tears; so the entire fight feels pointless. Only Takamura vs Eagle, Aoki vs Imae and Ippo vs Shimabokuro were fucked up worse.
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Reporter > Doctor > Itagaki's sister >>> Kumi.
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>>143640965
He'll have sex with her once he won the world championship from Richardo Martinez.
Or he'll give her a kiss the same way Rocky did after his game.

>>143641172
They're pretty straightforwards about both loving each other.
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>>143644150
Good taste anon. Kumi is shit and Mari is best girl.
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>>143643831
>Takamura vs Eagle

Was shit from a pacing standpoint, they made it worse by making Eagle a cowardly champion, with and completely gloss over the post-fight scene where it's inferred that Takamura is hurt and staggering. Fuck they don't even do the pre-fight shit with Ippo worrying over Takamura's possible vision loss, to the point he goes to Sanada (who the omit from Rising, along with the awesome scene where Kenta Kobashi shows up) and ultimately almost gets into a street fight with some drunkard. The confrontation with Takamura is also ass in the anime. Why they would skip the build to a match when that's one of the series main strengths is retarded enough.

>Aoki vs Imae

They completely downplay Aoki's intelligence, craftiness and ingenuity when that was the entire point of the match and literally dumb it down to having Takamura flatout tell us what Aoki's doing, instead of showing it like the manga does, where we see Aoki drag Imae into his pace by pretending to be tiring and hamming it up between rounds.

>Ippo vs Shimabokuro

Shitted all over the prefight build, when that was the highlight of the match, whereas the actual match is so poorly paced it makes you think it was filler. The only good thing about it is they skipped the 'perfect punch' subplot, but it was at the expense of gutting the boxing exposition, which has always been a staple of the series, so why bother?

The only thing shitter than the pacing in Rising is the new fight announcer.
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>>143630172
>Meet mexican guy
>Get fucked anyways
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>>143644150
>>143644342
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>>143644317
>They're pretty straightforwards about both loving each other.
It's obvious they do, but they're not remotely straightforward.
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>>143634841
>Berserkfags being fucking stupid
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>>143644480

Ippo's not going to fight Alf again. Sendo will to build hype going into his match with Ricardo Martinez only for him to get killed and finish his path of being the author's token Joe Yabuki homage.
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>>143636958
Not really the fights are good but the pacing is slow.

The anime can fix that since it can adapt 20 chapter fights in like 2 episodes.

Volg vs Mike Elliot still makes me hard
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>>143644644
>>The anime can fix that since it can adapt 20 chapter fights in like 2 episodes.
>
>Volg vs Mike Elliot still makes me hard

After what they did to Ippo vs Sawamura, I don't want the fucks who did Rising to touch anything Hajime no Ippo-related.

All the emotion and hype from Volg vs Elliot would be lost. I honestly don't mind the fights being long, in animated form, with the first anime because the music and voice actors made the matches entertaining.

This shit with them bringing in real-life boxing announcers is one of the reasons the newest anime was so terrible, when the original guy was so much more better.
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>>143644644

Most of the time both pacing and the quality are bad, but Volg vs Elliot was quite good. From the fights that were never animated, I'd say it is second best right after Sawamura vs Mashiba. Takamura vs Bison was great for a while but the pacing ruined it and the ending was retarded, and I can't think of any other fights that were good in any way.
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>>143644872
>>After what they did to Ippo vs Sawamura, I don't want the fucks who did Rising to touch anything Hajime no Ippo-related.

I honestly don't see how they could fuck up shit like Mashiba vs Sawamura, Ippo vs Scratch J, Ippo vs Karasawa, Miyata vs Sendo (spar) or the second set of A-class tournament matches with Itagakimuraoki up until Itagaki gets his shit pushed. .. But then they fucked up every single match in Rising despite having a shitload of material to work with.
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>>143644457
>>They completely downplay Aoki's intelligence, craftiness and ingenuity when that was the entire point of the match and literally dumb it down to having Takamura flatout tell us what Aoki's doing, instead of showing it like the manga does, where we see Aoki drag Imae into his pace by pretending to be tiring and hamming it up between rounds.

Shit sucks. Aoki's ruse cruise was one the best matches from the first 50 volumes.
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>>143644150

I don't know what's more hilarious: The fact that every single one of those girls have seen/touched Ippo's dick or that this series can go on this long while shitting on shipperfags who honestly read it for legit romance.
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Can we all at least agree that Ippo was great up until he won the championship thing?
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>>143645244
>The fact that every single one of those girls have seen/touched Ippo's dick

Japan as a whole has already seen the Big Mara: it's a national treasure at this point.
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>>143645262
But the best fight in the entire manga was the one immediately AFTER he became champion.
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So will Idagaki ever fight Ippo like he subconsciously desperately wants to or has that subplot just been dropped entirely
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>>143644609
>Ippo's not going to fight Alf again
Yes he is. He's going to develop his new dempsy roll and fuck him up, showing that he's ready to fight Ricardo.
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>>143645262
>Can we all at least agree that Ippo was great up until he won the championship thing?

No. It was great after that as well. Ippo as a character only really works as an underdog. Which is why Ippo's cheese champion run entertaining as fuck,

This meme where Hajime no Ippo is bad is now fucking retarded, because the series itself has consistently pushed for giving the secondary cast plenty of screentime, often with Ippo being the main cheerleader. Even then, it's matches, even at their worse

>>143645375
>So will Idagaki ever fight Ippo like he subconsciously desperately wants to or has that subplot just been dropped entirely

Likely not, since based Kyosuke killed that shit and took the JBC title, which is what all Itagaki's bullshit aspiration were built on. The only silver lining is that it also killed that budding Itagaki vs Miyata subplot Morikawa was hinting at, though I could see it still happening as Miyata's final OPBF title defense before vacating the belt to challenge the still faceless WBC featherweight world champion.
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>>143645448
Dempsey*
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>>143645324

Sanada was way too good for Ippo's first defence. Morikawa has written himself into a corner with characters multiple times, Sawamura was another one that was Morikawa couldn't handle and was written out
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>>143645592
I was talking about Aoki vs Kimura but the Sanada fight is pretty damn good too.
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>>143645508
That was the fucking best. Almost 150 chapters of Idagaki gotta-go-fast time-warping around the ring and being a cocky asshole and Imae takes him out in like a minute.
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>>143645592
>Sanada was way too good for Ippo's first defence. Morikawa has written himself into a corner with characters multiple times, Sawamura was another one that was Morikawa couldn't handle and was written out

Sanada was the perfect opponent, simply because his match built on exposing the Dempsey Roll's weakness, which started with Sendo and went all the way through to the 'Cheese Champion' run to the Swamura fight.

Sawamura getting written out is only bullshit, since it was done at the expense of keeping Mashiba in the manga, when realistically it would have been better to have Mashiba lose and challenge Sawamura again for the OPBF title, to finish his character arc.
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>>143645721
It was beautiful. And the best part is it wasn't even Itagaki's fault, truly. He did the work, he watched the tapes, he followed the training. It's just that Imai and his trainier just insane with their perfect plan.
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>>143645448
>Yes he is. He's going to develop his new dempsy roll and fuck him up, showing that he's ready to fight Ricardo.


I don't see Ippo fighting Alf again before Sendo gets to him. Unless you seriously think Morikawa is going to go through all that build of having Sendo go to Mexico to chase Alf only to lose and get retired, without ever fighting Ricardo.

I'd like to believe Sendo will beat Alf and lose to Ricardo, because the alternative of having Ricardo retire undefeated and having Alfredo become the champ sounds like bullshit, especially since that would mean would could potentially get a sequence of Sendo, Miyata and possibly that fuck Wally all challenging the new WBC world champion before Ippo does. Keeping Ricardo in as a super champ at least makes Ippo eventually fighting him, after being spurned on after Sendo gets destroyed that much more of a better emotional and narrative payoff, even if it's cliche as fuck.
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>>143644457
>Aoki vs Imae
Man, I was just so glad to have it animated and that was so fucking great, despite shortcomings compared to the source materials.
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>>143645955
>Unless you seriously think Morikawa is going to go through all that build of having Sendo go to Mexico to chase Alf only to lose and get retired,

Well he seriously went through all the buildup of Sendo proposing to his christmas cake teacher only to have it be JUST A PRANK BRO
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>>143645955
I think we're going to see Sendo destroy that mexican guy Ippo lost to, then move up to Ricardo then lose. This will show that Ricardo is still an insane beast.
That's when Ippo will have his shot to show he's the best.

Then Ippo is going to move up weights and fight the guy who beat up Aoki. Ippo is the guy Takamura was talking about awhile ago who could avenge Aoki, but didn't say his name because it was too unrealistic to happen. The fact that Ippo was having a sparing match with a guy above his weight level makes me think this will actually happen.
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Fuck that noise about Sendo losing to some spic.
Sendo needs to beat the shit out of Ippo in another glorious match that raises Ippos spirits fuck high and makes him break his shitty promise Kumin.
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>>143646254
>implying Sendo will be able to outmatch the new Dempsey.
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>>143646254
>Fuck that noise about Sendo losing to some spic.

Prepare to be disappointed. He's not only going to lose to a spic, he's going to be retired to one and end up dying in a fire while volunteering to be a firefighter, like his dad.
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>>143646415
Jesus that's harsh
>remain underground but consistently fight mexican to build enough experience to fight Ricardo
>finally gets the girl
>is all set to fight the champ
>loses
>retires
>never fights again
Seeing the whole 'get fucked so hard he retires with an actual character we know would be devastating.
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>>143638743
BTFO
Dicklets, when will they ever learn?
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>>143646601
Never.
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>french fries
I don't get it Granted I've only watched Ippo
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>>143646031
>Well he seriously went through all the buildup of Sendo proposing to his christmas cake

Which is completely in line with the usual comedy in this series. it's like being mad at Kumi and Ippo not fucking, when the author is literally being sustained by shipperfag tears. if Sendo wasn't literally Joe Yabuki, but a Ippo fanboy, he'd have a chance.

I honestly would rather have him win the WBC title and force Miyata and Ippo to go after the WBA world title, so the winner can have a unification match.

Considering the series takes place when Japan doesn't recognize the WBO or IBF as viable routes to being world champions, we're stuck in this shitty WBC/WBA bottleneck with the Japanese characters.

Thankfully Volg is a foreigner so was able to move up a weight-class and fuck off to the US and win a belt. Of course this means we'll never have to see that shitter Wally again, because he can realistically become the WBO featherweight world champion without us seeing the match.
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>>143646801

Get the fuck out of this thread and go read Hajime no Ippo from the beginning and form your own opinion.
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>>143646563
>Seeing the whole 'get fucked so hard he retires with an actual character we know would be devastating.

We already got it with Sawamura and Date, I suspect we'll see it again with one other character (probably Imai or that piece of shit Itagaki) before Sendo's career is fucked.

As an aside, it's amazing how many careers Ippo has ended and how many people from the beginning of the series were forced to stop boxing. I'm sure, at this point, Ippo has retired more opponents than Mashiba.

I just hope Morikawa gives half-a-shit to give Sendo a great send-off for his last match. Alfredo vs Sendo will likely be played up like Ippo vs Scratch J, where instead of it being a haymaker for haymaker--it'll be a straight out fucking brawl, since both are boxers with a history of being street thugs and rely on their instincts, when at their best.
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>>143646015
>Man, I was just so glad to have it animated and that was so fucking great, despite shortcomings compared to the source materials.

I was glad to see it animated, but felt like it should have been an OVA, like Kimura's match. Aoki's match at least deserves that much.
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>>143647302
>We already got it with Sawamura and Date
And I'm sure that we'll get it again with Sendo. Date's fight was sooo long ago. We need to be reminded that Ricardo is still a monster for all those years.

Plus, Sendo is considered to be like Ippo but with a mid-range type of fighting. This will give us a clue at the gap between Ippo and Ricardo.
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>>143644872
>Rising
I didn't acre much for how they did Eagle vs Takamura. If you watch that fight then watch Takamura vs Hawk, it's very apparent that the quality of the hawk fight was vastly superior, which is infuriating for me because eagle is one of my favorite fighters to have shown up in the series.

On the other hand, Kamogawa vs Anderson which is my absolute favorite fight in the entire series, they nailed that pretty fucking hard.
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>>143646563
>>143647302
>>143647432

I honestly want to see a scenario where Alf, Sendo and Miyata are all fed to Ricardo to destroy just to build up to Ippo fighting him. I don't even care if Ippo wins or not, I just want to see this series actually build up a major fight at featherweight again. It feels like the manga has been running in circles since Ippo vs Miyata III was called off; at least at featherweight.

Hell, I would have settled if we got a short run with Sendo as JBC again, after Ippo drops the belt, but then we wouldn't have got Kyosuke wrecking Itagaki's shit, so there's that.
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>>143645851
>>143645508

Best boy would not be denied.
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>getting his shit completely fucking destroyed by Ippo, rendered unable to box ever again, and losing all memory of the match of his life wasn't enough
>He got dumped by his wife and became homeless too

Holy shit George, when will you let the Kojima suffering train end?
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>tfw I actually love Itagaki
I can't help myself, I love speed characters.
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>>143649002
what? he's a guy Ippo defeated?
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>>143627901
Why he doesn't just start using the heart breaker shot?

Also I'm glad Volg is now world champion
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>>143627901
Has Itagaki tried to kill Ippo yet?
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>>143649157
Yup he's One Punch Man
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>>143649157
He's either Kojima or Morikawa decided to re-use the character design.
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Why did Itagaki try to steal Kumi from Ippo?
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>>143649002
>>getting his shit completely fucking destroyed by Ippo, rendered unable to box ever again, and losing all memory of the match of his life wasn't enough
>>He got dumped by his wife and became homeless too

It's even more fucked up when you consider his girlfriend who look suspiciously like a girl-Miyata was knocked up with his kid, but still dumped his ass.

>>143648516
>>143645508
>>143645851
>>143645721


What makes this even better is Morikawa was foreshadowing this, since the build to this even during RBJ vs Miyata fight.
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>>143649157

I doubt he is, but he sure looks just like Kojima. The lightweight champ that just lost to Iga looks just like Itagaki so I think Morikawa has just ran out of faces to draw
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>>143649315
>>143649263
>>143649002
>>143649157
>>143649259

It's definitely Kojima. He's knowledgeable about Aokimura, who are his peers, and he even has a scar where Ippo cold-clocked him.
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>>143645448
>ippo
>ready
Alf was a really tame version of Ricardo. If Ippo tries to fight him he is going to die, but that can't happen because it's Ashita no joe all over again and we already have a Joe clone (Sendo)
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>>143649246

Kyosuke literally beat the evil out of Itagaki.
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>>143649381
That scar is what proves he isn't Kojima, Kojima didn't get a scar after Ippo beat him. The fact that he looks identical to Kojima, acts identical to Kojima, and has a scar in exactly the same place that Kojima would have a scar if Ippo had given him a scar (but he didn't) all appears to be some weird coincidence.
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>>143649392
Ippo didn't have Dempsey 2.0 ready.
His body is ready, he just needs the right mentality to remain the best. Plus, in the last chapter, Ippo ran past the line, symbolically showing that he's ready to go beyond the realm of humans.
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>>143649392
Ippo's too nice to fight any real powerful world rankers. He's as liable to say "Sorry I hit you!" during a fight as anything else. He has to learn to be bloodthirsty like Takamura said. Once he has that bloodlust, then he'll be ready. He already has enough power to take down Ricardo. He just needs to refine it a bit more and get some bloodlust.
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>>143649752
> Plus, in the last chapter, Ippo ran past the line, symbolically showing that he's ready to go beyond the realm of humans.

He ran around the line, not past it. He still couldn't actually step over it. Itagaki even commented that it's the same thing he always does.
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>>143649752
He ran around the line. He didn't exactly cross it.
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>>143649752
>Ippo ran past the line

He ran around it.
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>>143649752
he didn't run past the line, he ran beside the line.

He'll run over it when he's ready.
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>>143649541

Clearly it's Kojima deadbeat older brother, who will likely to be revealed to be
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>>143649797
>>143649798
>>143649813
>>143649814
I guess that's that then. He's not ready yet.
Can't wait to see him cross that line though.
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Let's just fast forward to where Ippo may suffer brain damage if he fights a match but this match is his last chance to win the world belt.

The match goes 12 rounds and Ippo loses on a split decision.

Kumi marries him and takes care of him as he develops parkinsons.
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>>143649868
I've been waiting 7 years for that moment. When he crosses that line and fights Ricardo, it's going to be brutal as fuck.
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>>143649855

-ing someone Takamura used to abuse like Baron and will end up at the Kamogawa gym as a trainer.
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>>143627901
>>143627934
>BAAAAAAAAAAAAWW WHY ISNT THIS MANGA COMPLETELY REALISTIC INSTEAD OF ENTERTAINMENT

never write anything
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>>143644150
We all know that Ippo's one true love is Miyata.
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>>143634705
I still don't think he will be the last boss, probably some asshole will appear from nowhere and beat El Diablo to death
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>>143650919
>villain that's been hyped for 800 chapters being beaten by some random nobody

Can't tell if that's awful or genius.
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>>143635226
He's got Miyata's gaze of infinite contempt, tho.
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>>143644480
>implying that Chicken Alfredo won't defeat Martinez to become champ
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>>143652144
Awful, but that's how shonen mangas usually rolls.
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The fact prince lost to a single punch after beating the shit out of him for like 6 rounds pisses me off and then they just jerk themselves off about how amazing their training is and it was a perfect plan.
I fucking hate this shit.
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>>143642879
He didn't do well on weight training and drew in his latest match, he's still not champ.
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So do you think we'll get a "Tomorrow's Ippo" ending?
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>>143640881
Kohinata Minoru is fucking great.
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>>143653623
I felt the same with the David Eagle fight. The man was superior to takamura in everyway and he got fuck because muh classic training.
On ashita no joe when the rival was good he was actually damn good, for example when Rivera and Mendoza fought and Mendoza destroyed Carlos with a corkscrew
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>>143654236
>So do you think we'll get a "Tomorrow's Ippo" ending?

No. And that's with taking into consideration that Morikawa is the biggest Tetsuya Chiba fanboy. If anything we'll get a nod to it with Sendo getting fucked up and almost dying.

The end game will likely be Ippo, Miyata, Sendo, Mashiba and Vorg all retiring around the same time, with Vorg beomg a triple-crown champion, Miyata having his career ended by Ippo in a WBA-WBC unification match and Sendo settling down with his teacher after her divorce is settle, Mashiba retiring after failing to win a world title, because he was foolish enough to officially approve of Ippo x Kumi before his match and Kyosuke and Itagaki OPBF title match being the undercard for Takamura's heavyweight title match (which he dedicates to the late Kamogawa and Nekota). Aokimura will already had retired as JBC and OPBF champions.
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>>143627901
When are they going to show how he got beat by Manny Pacman Paquiao

Before the 1st round even started?
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>>143646980
>it's like being mad at Kumi and Ippo not fucking, when the author is literally being sustained by shipperfag tear
Yeah, how dare "shippers" expect relationship progress in over 1100 chapters.
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>>143630804
>"I'MMA TAKE THE SEAL OFF THE SECRET TECHNIQUE BOY! PUNCH UP FROM BELOW! THEY WON'T EXPECT THAT!"

Mememagic at it's finest.
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How old is ippo at this point? 27?
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>>143640881
Aiki is one of the most fun martial arts manga around, though it's nothing like Ippo.
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>>143644872
>This shit with them bringing in real-life boxing announcers is one of the reasons the newest anime was so terrible

I didn't watch Rising, what is this about? All I knew was that Kamogawa's VA died, and the new guy sucks dick.
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>>143645955
If Woli ever became champion then Ippo will never win it ever. Nor anyone else.
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>>143649263
>>143649002

You guys do realize there's a massive difference in the thickness of their eyebrows in these two pictures right?

Plus Kojima being on the streets would mean his wife left him.
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When will they allow Ippo to go 3lbs over his normal weight to compensate for his massive schlong?
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