How do we stop Yen Press?
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-01/yen-press-licenses-rokka-novels-manga-isolator-big-order-murcielago-smokin-parade-manga/.103867
>>143579483
>How do we stop Yen Press?
Can't stop
Won't stop
>>143579483
Wait, is this a good thing or a bad thing?
>>143579983
Yen press is hilariously slow with their work, but then again considering the nature of the LN it's not a big loss.
I swear to god if they DMCA the current translation I'm gonna be mad as fuck. Yen press can suck a fat cock
>>143579983
A good thing because they're actually faster than Nanodesu.
>>143580136
Yen Press hasn't sent out an actual DMCA C&D notice in a very long time, because Baka-Tsuki and Nanodesu tend to just take it down themselves without being asked.
>>143580065
>Yen press is hilariously slow
In the last eight months Nanodesu translation of Rokka v5 has progressed by 68%. In that time Yen Press would have two volumes out.
Question is, are we gonna get a good translator or a garbage one?
Bunny need nothing wrong.
Adlet should've joined her and fucked her while he had the chance.
Season 2 when?
This is your cat tonight.
fuck yes press
they dmca shit
they have 50/50 chance of getting decent translator or changing too much
heard they fucked with 14 sai no koi, can anyone check if they have it?
Why do they even bother?
>>143580473
How many translators does Yen Press have?
>>143580544
>they dmca shit
With the exception of Danmachi, they haven't DMCAed shit since the Haruhi/S&W days.
>get bought out by Kadokawa
>licence a Shueisha series
What
>>143581065
When Kadokawa purchased a majority stake in Yen Press people thought there would be loads of Kadokawa series getting licensed.
>>143580519
>Season 2 when?
When you invent a time machine and go back to personally purchase 7000 copies of every bd volume.
>>143579483
Dis anyone else get the signed storyboard book that one got if they preordered all 3 bluray volumes?
>>143582264
Yes I did it shipped with the 3rd set
>>143579483
Great.
I wanted to read the LN anyway.
>>143582880
Do you happen to know who signed it? I can't identify these moon runes.
Also did you get any of the keyframes?
>>143583239
Goddamn it it uploaded upside down. I hare this phone.
>>143579483
Now I can buy paper copies for my dad.
>ROKKA
>NO>_____
>>143583307
RATINGS
https://rokkathetranslation.wordpress.com/
>Hello everyone, Zero here. It is with a heavy heart that I have to announce that as of today the fan translation of Rokka no Yuusha has come to an end.
>Yen Publishing has licensed the novel. As stated on our mothersite nanodesu translations, we will take down all material and cease further translating upon licensing.
>>143583482
>antimagic cancelled
>rokka cancelled
>both series bombed, S2 never
I think I should just stop, clearly everything I love dies.
>>143583482
He can go fuck himself.
Who the fuck takes 3 months translating a single chapter of a damn 2014 novel?
>>143579483
CHIJOU SAKYOU NO OTOKO
>>143583563
We've been getting some stuff on antimagic in ghostbin, though:
https://ghostbin.com/paste/qecqs
https://ghostbin.com/paste/ag9by
https://ghostbin.com/paste/49pkr
>>143583482
I should be a bit mad but the thing was turning into an absolute chore to go through.
The only thing left to do is to post Tgurneu.
>>143583679
Oh cool thanks anon. Whose doing it and is there any way I can follow them?
>>143583616
Go post it on his site.
>>143579983
Yes.
Yes.
>Manga is better.
>>143583482
Good. Yen Press may take a year to catch up, but once they do they will be five times faster than this joker.
>>143583749
>Whose doing it
Judging by the writing style and grammatical errors, probably Krytyk.
>and is there any way I can follow them?
Lurk around /a/ or /r/lightnovels.
>>143583482
Whelp, I still have tons of Mtled isekai trash WNs to read at least.
>>143583828
Anyone compiling the ghostbins into pdfs or epubs on goddess?
Don't be a pussy and continue the fan translation.
I swear to God, kids nowadays are just human trash.
FUCKING Jew Press Must ruin everything good in this world.
>>143584276
No translation that takes six months to translate half a volume is worth continuing.
>>143584838
I don't even read this. I am just pissed off at how fucking cancerous translators are nowadays. Because they are such attention whores they have their names and IPs all over the places and like the borderline underage scum they get cold feet when it comes to continuing to translate. They only thing they deserve is a horrible death.
>>143584934
>>143584833
Have this to ease the pain.http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=826192
>>143584934
>nowadays
The motivation of fan translators has always been e-peen.
>>143584997
So you don't have an actual argument.
>>143585203
Not as bloggy and thumblrish as it is now. The translator would have an online name, but it was not a problem to continue translating anyway. Hell, we even have some anime translators that actively blog on twitter with pictures of themselves and still don't give a shit.
>>143583482
Will the faggot at least make an epub of Vol.5 before he fucks off?
Because that was the one thing I'm waiting for.
>>143583482
>>143584276
I'd say, complete volume 5 at least.
>>143583679
>>143583563
Do either of you have the batch for Antimagic?
I regret not downloading them all when they were still there.
>>143585203
>>143584934
>>143584276
>I swear to God, kids nowadays are just human trash.
They don't even know how avoid DMCA boogie man
Now pick up Grimgar since that's also slow as shit.
>>143585578
https://mega.nz/#!GBwQ2azb!owAb0JKcAJhbkLSE1pL__vvPLOoV9WsR7wAd9yYTMKM
>>143585346
Volume 5 was only 68% translated, what would be the point? Even Yen Press are faster than these chucklefucks.
Does anyone happen to have a download for RnY archive 1?
>>143587033
They're still up on the site for now.
https://rokkathetranslation.wordpress.com/volume-1/volume-1-pdf/
>>143587261
No, I mean the side story (and raw).
>>143587366
Dunno, check homuwaifu maybe?
Does anyone have a link of the 5 vol. of rokka?
>>143580561
They hire freelancers, probably so they don't suffer if they decide to drop it later due to sales.
Can anybody explain how yen makes their money licensing all these series? Are the licenses cheap or what?
>>143585592
>They don't even know how avoid DMCA boogie man
Bullshit DMCA's are ignored and or you can move your website to other sites that don't give a fuck with COD's.
>>143583828
>probably krytyk
It does sound like him, but considering how self-righteous he always acts, I wonder if someone is just copying his style.
>>143588904
Yen Press has never dropped a series. Even Book Girl which literally nobody bought was released to completion.
>>143589354
Why though, I mean what's the end game here? Are the license deals they make more like contracts and they get to keep the money they make on the translations after paying for said license or what?
>>143580561
List of YP translators:
>Haruhi vol 1-4 - Chris Pai (probably ex-fantranslator)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=74988
>Haruhi vol 5-11 and S&W - Paul Starr (experienced translator)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-starr-8926993
>SAO, SAO Progressive, and Durarara!!- Stephen Paul (experienced freelancer)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=46338
https://twitter.com/translatosaurus
>Accel World - Jocelyne Allen (pro freelancer)
http://www.kaikatsu.ca/
>Isolator - ZephyrRz/Kafka Fuura (??? freelancer, JLPT N1, BA in Asian Culture/Lang)
https://kafkafuura.wordpress.com/about/
>Book Girl and Another - Karen McGillicuddy (experienced freelancer)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/karen-mcgillicuddy/23/821/bb1
>Index and Mahouka - Andrew Prowse (??? freelancer, JLPT N2)
>Index only - Yoshito Hinton (Experienced freelancer, Vertical manga translator. Dying from AMN)
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-prowse/1a/53/970
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/yoshito-hinton/52/71b/349
>Danmachi - Andrew Gaippe (??? freelancer)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/andrew-gaippe/a3/725/5a6
>NGNL - Daniel Komen (??? freelance memelord)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/daniel-komen/60/194/652
>Maou-sama! and Kagerou Daze - Kevin Gifford (Experienced freelance writer, translator, videogame localizer)
https://www.linkedin.com/pub/kevin-gifford/6/724/699
>Log Horizon and Baccano - Taylor Engel (???)
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=112877
>Black Bullet - Nita Lieu (experienced freelancer)
http://translation.nitalieu.com
>Strike the Blood - Jeremiah Bourque (experienced freelancer, ex-Tokyopop)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremiahbourque
>Overlord - Emily Balistrieri (PT Kodansha childrens books translator)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilybalistrieri
>PSYCOME - Nicole Wilder (USN Engineering Command translator, MA in East Asian Lang/Lit/Ling, BA in JP Lang/Lit)
https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-wilder-549aa0a4
>>143590475
Are the translations for Baccano any good?
>>143579483
>>143590520
They're pretty decent. Translator seems to have learned from his mistakes from LH. They're a damn sight better than the garbage the fan translation tries to pass off as English, that's for sure.
>>143590475
That might explain the bunny thing for Overlord V1 translation error. Does anyone know if Strike the Blood and Hataraku Maou-sama translations any good, the resumes for those translators seems promising.
>>143590701
>>143590520
Anyone who praises the stiffness and awkward wording of fan translations for being "true to the original" deserves to be shot for being a weeaboo.
>>143590701
>>143590805
Thanks.
>>143580065
It is faggot. Fan translations will stop and I can't buy them. It will start in 2017 anyway so volume 5 will be completed by now.
>>143590778
Strike the Blood is pretty good, although it has some honorifics left in in the first volume with a bunch of "Nagisa-chan"s and "Kojou-kun"s in there, contrary to YP's usual "no honorifics" policy. These were excised for all subsequent volumes. They did leave "senpai" untouched though, which is funny because they didn't leave "onii-sama" in Mahouka although they did leave "biribiri" in Index.
Maou-sama is really well done and the translator demonstrates actual writing skill in addition to comprehensive skill which is especially important for translating comedy. There was a comparison of a passage from the official translation versus the BT translation in the archive, I'll see if I can find it.
>>143591072
>>143590778
>Yen Press
Yen Press localization:
They had signed the contract, completely unable to mount any sort of protest. The two of them stood there, their minds blank, waiting to regain their composure so they could reflect over these sudden events.
The place was a dump, its landlord a nonhuman behemoth. But what other living space would be willing to accept two homeless, unemployed young men, a concept that would send any sane landlord running at first sight? They resigned themselves to their fate, knowing the answer all too well. At the very least, they wouldn’t be rained on.
So, deep in their hearts, the two demons swore to work hard, make the rent each month, and otherwise have as little to do with their landlord as possible.
“‘You have to start somewhere,’ as they apparently say around here. Perhaps this is exactly what we need.”
They were overwhelmed in battle against the Hero, battered by the wild journey across the flows of the Gate, and mentally fatigued by their adventures in an unfamiliar world. Satan, the Devil King, was rapidly expending his magical force, his breathing ragged after only two hypnoses. The sense of extreme exhaustion was like none he had ever tasted.
So the Devil King fell asleep. And he stayed asleep for three days and three nights, healing his scarred body and drained soul.
Then, after sleeping three days straight without eating or drinking, Satan was taken to the hospital for malnutrition. The dehydration and vitamin deficiency had immobilized him.
In order to rescue his master—near death, skin dry and pallid, empty eyes staring aimlessly into space—Alciel had been forced to ask their landlord, Shiba, for help the third day after moving in. He had absolutely no idea what manner of medical facilities to expect in this world.
>>143590520
Been reading the first one and it feel pretty stiff but doesn't seem worse than any of the fan translations of it I read at least.
>>143591116
>>143590778
>>143591072
>Baka-Tsuki
Fan translation:
Satan and Alsiel sealed the contract out of the spur of the moment. They were dazed out for a while but they were barely able to recover and think about their situation critically.
The building was old and their landlord was someone who couldn’t possibly be a human. However, the two youths were unemployed and they had no address. By the rules of this world, would there be another place that would accept someone as suspicious as them? Looking at the situation like that, they needed to be grateful about having a roof over their heads.
The two of them vowed to live quietly and pay the rent on time, so that they wouldn’t need to see their landlord’s face ever again.
“In this world, there seems to be a proverb that says ‘one must endure unspeakable hardships for the sake of vengeance’[9]. This must be one of those cases.”
Their bodies were injured because of their fight with the Hero, their magical energies were spent, and they were swept up by the gate’s flow and deposited in a world that they’ve never heard of. Even someone like the Demon Lord Satan was losing his powers after using the hypnotic spell twice. Satan experienced tiredness like he’d never felt before.
To heal his wounded body and heart, the Demon Lord Satan slept for three days straight.
Sleeping for three days straight with his injured body without eating or drinking caused Satan to suffer from malnutrition and had to be rushed to hospital. He couldn’t even stand up straight because he was dehydrated and was lacking in vitamins.
To save his pale and dying master who was staring blankly with unfocused eyes, Alsiel had to request help from their landlord Shiba after just three days of moving in. Because they didn’t have a clue as to how medical attention worked in this world.
>>143591161
Thanks.
This is an open question but did they really change CADs in Mahouka into brooms?
>>143591586
They use "broom" as a translation for the abbreviated "houki" slang.
If you punch yourself in the head a few times it starts to make sense since they often shortened it from 'mahouki' (magical device) to 'houki' (broom) in the Japanese. It felt the writer was trying to intentionally create terms that were related to magic but have entirely different meanings.
So in context, the more formal "CAD" is still refered to as "CAD" (and CAD is used pretty much everywhere in the novel), while cases where the more informal "houki" is used became "broom".
>>143591882
I think that would've been one of those times where it'd be ok to cut corners on.
>>143590475
I can comment on Paul Starr who's decent translator and Stephen Paul who's either shit or bearable depending on the material he works with. His problem is that he's just goes with "too damn American" type of translation for everything. His Vinland Saga translation is basically a joke. Durarara!! is better in this regards since it's contemporary yet the translation still reads very clunky.
>>143583679
Next chapter when
>>143592357
>His problem is that he's just goes with "too damn American" type of translation for everything.
Is this referring to how he converted all the metric measurements to imperial in his SAO translation, or does his general writing style read like a Joss Whedon script?
>>143592357
Can you post an example?
>>143580065
>One volume every three/four months
>hilariously slow
I want this meme to end already.
>>143585592
>avoiding DMCA
Why bother? It means literally nothing.
>>143595192
Kids still delete their LN translations because of fear being "sued". DMCA boogie man works for new US generation.
I'll never understand why LN tranaslators are such moral fags when anime and manga ones don't give a shit. Is it solely because they're too stupid/lazy to move their shit to Chinese hosting sites?
>>143595316
Well, sometimes WordPress and Blogspot are the ones that do the nuking, like what happened with the Danmachi translation (which was J>C>E garbage and deserved death anyway)
>>143595316
>DMCA boogie man works for new US generation.
It has worked for every generation and were foolish to accept this
>>143597323
>WordPress and Blogspot
We need website created to not give a fuck against DMCA and keep fan translation until the end of time.
>>143595316
They comply with DMCA in case they one day want to be hired or even just do freelance work for them. No point burning bridges over something you're doing as a hobby.
>>143590475
>JLPT N2
Is this a fucking joke?
>>143579483
>murcielago
So much for my fix of crazy tall killer lady and her shortstuff sidekick
>>143599794
One step closer to an anime adaptation, at least.
>>143597153
Translating LNs takes a toll on you desu kazoku
>>143600103
>western release
>having anything to do with an anime adaptation
Are you one of those faggots who think that paying CR supports the industry?
>>143600180
>Translating LNs takes a toll on you desu kazoku
Pussy
>>143600343
>think that paying CR supports the industry?
It's true tho. You're actually support industry. Read for example Yoshiyuki Sadamoto interview or Polygon studio
>>143597993
Maybe he just hasn't updated his profile in a while? Or maybe he never bothered to take the N1 exam. Is N2 enough to read light novels anyway?
>>143600343
>Western influence got Watamote an anime, at least.I'm pulling this out of my ass.
>>143597737
I can't think of any LN fan translator who actually got hired besides maybe Strato.
>>143600457
>repetitive sentence structures
>shit writing
>obscure faggot references from the echelons of 2ch and whatever shithole memes generate from in moonland
>takes time to translate from moonspeak to English, not taking into account editing it afterwards
>decrypt the occasional made up shit terms some LN authors can pull out of their ass
Not worth it unless getting paid kazoku, or if I was a rich dweeb with unlimited time on my hands and no job.
>>143591882
>If you punch yourself in the head a few times it starts to make sense
I find this is true of many things when you're dealing with japanese. I don't wish a translator's life on anyone, I don't know how people do it for as long as they do without degenerating into non-functional gibbering balls of dislogic.
>>143600779
>LN fan translations
>editing
Good joke.
>>143600846
I replaced a single word in this 2000+ word chapter with a synonym in the thesaurus, that's editing, right?
>>143579483
Did rokka no yuusha deserve to flop?
>>143600734
Even N1 isn't something to brag about. (For anybody knowing CEFR it's an equivalent of C1 for fuck's sake.) Using N2 for credentials to find a job as a translator is cringe-tier.
>>143601157
maybe if studio passione wasnt such a shit. did they go bankrupt yet
>>143601184
Maybe that's why he wasn't the sole translator for Index, there's also the other guy who's dying of adrenomyeloneuropathy.
>>143600734
It only takes a year or two to read light novels, anon.
bunny or remy?
>>143601429
the choice is obvious
>>143579483
Is the manga any good?
>>143591882
So is Yen Press Mahouka worth buying?
Please license Grimgar now
Their halfachapterperweeklol policy is fucking stupid.
>>143601540
Eh, sure, if you want to own it physically. The original is not exactly a masterpiece of writing to begin with and the fan translation was passable so it's not like you're getting all that much more out of an improved translation, unlike Danmachi where the original translation was barely comprehensible Chinese translation, or Maou-sama where a smooth flow of writing and good use of vocabulary and timing is essential for comedy.
>>143601853
In fact, please license anything that Nanodesu does.
>>143601184
>Using N2 for credentials to find a job as a translator is cringe-tier
If you are translating into Japanese, yes. If you are translating into English, English proficiency is more important.
>>143604147If you are at N2 level there's a pretty big chance that you will misunderstand some shit.
>>143595183
it's painfully slow when you are playing catch up.
imagine a manga, translated into the 700's got licensed, and the translations stopped. that's what it feels like.
>>143602871
Hmm it's only a few bucks might as well get it, thanks for the info anon
>>143604036
You can email Yen Press and ask them to license stuff
>>143605839
Only if that worked for the YKK manga.
>>143590475
I got the impression that Kevin Gifford didn't really understand the feeling that was described in this part.
How many novels did the anime cover anyways?
>>143606162
It covered the first volume
>>143606239
>Rokka no Yuusha
huh. that's a lot less condensed than usual
>>143606470
But the story is more shit than usual so it balances out
>>143579483
Second season fucking never.
>>143601527
Probably better than the LN.
>>143583258
flipped.
WTF the Rokka anime aired last year?
i thought it aired recently
>>143608429
>WTF
Fuck off.
>>143608504
sorry i phrased my post poorly, sleep deprived
>>143606027
Why, what was being described? Should he have watched the music videos to understand it?
>>143608802
You know how in anime sometimes a character stumbles upon a grisly scene and the camera does this thing where it shows multiple close up cuts of different parts of it? That's how people IRL sometimes perceive things when they are under great stress.
>>143608999
So the translation conveys this inadequately? The sentence structure seems to me adequately abbreviated and disjointed.
>>143601157
Not really.
It was a solid detective story wrapped in an interesting fantasy scenario.
With the way Rokka progresses as a story I was fine with the summary of what happens in volume 6.
