At first I thought the rapes in Beserk were funny, but the more I read, I'm starting to feel a little sick. I mean, I know this is a work of fiction, but imagine if someone you loved was being raped every minute of everyday. How would that make you feel? And if there are all these demons running around, where the fuck is God?
It pleases my penis
>>143358350
moralfags shouldn't touch manga/anime period.
>>143358350
I know what you mean but in that case it's a decent view point of what this world really would look like if the world were over run my demons and faggotry. Thus unlike to mega-edge lord who tried bashing moral people, you can actually really appreciate the darkness and depth of the manga. Pic related to edge/lord
>>143358620
By* demons and faggotry, pardon me
I just got bored of them after a while to be honest
which I consider to be a problem with the writing frankly, something's not right when the reader sees a rape in the story and feels not shock or sadness or whatever but a sense of "oh it's just this again" instead
>>143358350
The Rape is supposed to make you hate the monsters you idiot. There is no one in berserk that rapes that the reader is supposed to like.
>>143358350
>imagine if someone you loved was being raped every minute of everyday.
That's your problem right there. You should just make sure not to love anybody. Then this would no longer be an issue and you would be able to read about rape without caring.
>>143358780
>The Rape is supposed to make you hate the monsters you idiot.
by this point in the story it's just there for random shock factor, honestly
>>143358839
That's your view
>>143358620
I understand what you mean. I guess its just a way of reminding the reader just how dark Guts' world is becoming due to Griffith. I agreed with Rickert at first when he said Guts should forget about Griffith and take care of Cascka, but with shit like this happening, he can't let him be. But even if Griffith is defeated, wouldn't the Holy See/warring countries basically take the place of the demons instead? Their actions aren't too much different.
>>143358839
Post golden arc we don't really see that much rape and when it happens its either the trolls/goblins or that Persian king's army generation machine. Both plot relevant and both integrated into the story.
>>143358350
There's far worse raping being done in reality then this, in fact the manga is unrealistically soft when it comes to rape. Also the point is that god is evil and humans are the evil that created it.
>>143358350
>At first I thought the rapes in Beserk were funny
Are you twelve by any chance? The rapes aren't supposed to be funny, they are supposed to be hot, how else could you fap to them, duh.
>>143358350
>At first I thought the rapes in Beserk were funny
How and why?
>>143358350
>be a manga made by a 16 year old sexually repressed Japanese boy
>rape everywhere
>It's normal for a boy his age
>He's expressing his sexuality
>>143358350
Rape is the ultimate past time of any real men.
>>143358350
>imagine if someone you loved was being raped every minute of everyday. How would that make you feel?
I feel like i'm in an NTR doujin
>>143358350
If watching young boys get defiled by fat old perverts makes you laugh you should probably seek psychiatric help.
If it makes you hard just jerk off.
>>143358350
It's supposed to make you sick. The Trolls are the darkest parts of humanity's subconsious personified
>>143358780
But it's not the monsters fault, so I can't hate them. It's like getting mad that a dog bit your kid instead of being mad at the owner. Plus, didn't the Idea of Evil explain that demons only exist because of the darkness in people? Should I not hate evil people instead? People like the former King and Julius?
>where the fuck is god
It's meant to be hell on earth and it's meant to be disturbing.
That girls death is brutal as hell and it honestly triggered my emotions. How she just got raped and snatched away in front of everyone and they couldn't do a thing. If only gutsu was there...
I'm starting to wonder wether he will be mad enough to make a demon invasion on this loli wizard island. I hope not as it might get Berserk banned in every western country.
>>143358350
>At first I thought the rapes in Beserk were funny
>where the fuck is God?
>>143359098
>But it's not the monsters fault
wat?
The goblins are 100% in control of their actions. They have language, intelligence to use tools and armor, and a culture as bestial as it may appear. How is anything not their fault?
>>143358350
berserk is edgy garbage loved by underage kids. it's as garbage as game of thrones
>>143358620
>my demons
VADE RETRO SATANA
>>143359104
>gutsu
>>143359014
Wait, Miura was 16 when he first made Berserk? Jesus fuck he's talented as hell.
>>143358350
god is evil and human
This looks like cute vanilla sex to me
>>143359335
If it sounds stupid google it.
>>143358978
I don't agree with that at all since it's the evil in people's hearts and the lust of power in their minds that made Griffith activate the the egg. Demons and the Devil are always there just waiting to be unleashed. It's interesting however that they make no mention of God in the anime n wht not, since the protagonist is made to have taken on the odds of against evil by himself without relying on God. I think that the message regardless of any preconceived notions as a good person he wishes to thwart evil if not destroy evil until his final day
I'm pretty sure Miura hates women. Nearly every female character who isn't a fairy or somewhat masculine either gets raped and tortured or turns into a monster.
>>143359335
Not really, idiot. Learn how to take a joke.
>>143358350
It's okay anon, foul demons all die by the blades of good men.
The only mistake that can be made after that is allowing those women to live, as they are soiled with the taint of evil.
>>143359466
By that logic, he must really really really hate Guts and Griffith given all the shit he put them through.
>>143359466
why can't creators be just regular creators for you shit heads?
>>143358350
You thought the rape in the golden age was "funny"? The hell, also why does the rap get so much attention, what about the torture of heretic in albion or the burning at the stake that Farnese did, there's a lot of fucked up shit in the manga period, but it's always the sexual violence that gets attention. I mean a baby was impaled in the first chapter with the snake baron drinking his blood, but no one mentions that.
>>143359572
>>143359565
>falling for tumblr bait
>>143359595
Americans are easy to rile up.
>>143359233
Uh oh the edge-lord is back to throw shade on a manga he is too dense or shallow to understand. Here's an idea, create your own vivid epic and then talk trash, thx
>>143359595
Well you can't deny it would have been more gruesome if he had been impaled on a dick.
>>143359466
Luca wasn't
Sonia wasn't
Flora wasn't
and the guys have horrible things happen to them too. You'd have a better argument that most women in the manga are drawn as attractive models, whereas there's a lot of ugly male characters (as well as good looking ones).
>>143359520
But men in the berserk universe always job when fighting fantastical creatures, save for Guts
>>143358350
What Volume and Chapter does said rape happen so I can look it up and research it further?
>>143359595
You don't feel pleasure from torture, dismemberment and the like. Rape does. It's both psychological and physical torture. Then, imagine if the victim gives birth? What effect would that have on the victim then? That's why the rape sticks out.
This thread is full of shit. Yes, Miura was an edgelord, but rape in Berserk isn't even that common. Most "rapes" are just attempts.
Casca got raped once by Femto.
Farnese, Schierke, Isma, Jill, Luca, Nina and the prostitutes, Farnese's mom, Erika and Sonia were never raped.
>>143359839
What's worse is in places where abortion is frowned SUPER hard upon or even illegal
>>143359657
>berserk
>not dense or shallow
I like berserk but fucking kill yourself faggot.
>>143359466
Because women are easily corrupted and it's not hate but reality he is expressing when it comes to the gross majority of women. Their nature is petty and cruel, and why they're either violated or become demons themselves since the women never possess the courage to fight
>>143358350
It's probably bait, but this is the last rape in the entire manga.
If people really want to get on Miura's case about the rapes, it is somewhat weird how no apostles or just people in general tried to rape Serpico, Isidoro, or even Guts since those three are pretty conventionally attractive characters (although it's obvious on Guts case they'd get destroyed if they attempted that). It's always Farnese and Casca who's threatened with rape.
>>143358350
>At first I thought the rapes in Beserk were funny
>>143358781
It's true. I do this and enjoy reading about rape and degradation. Goblin Slayer really got my motor running.
>>143360084
Slan wants to rape Guts.
>>143358781
Did you cut yourself
>>143360118
Rape can be funny, in fiction that is of course
>>143360021
Yeah, and it was published at least thirteen years ago. If Miura's going to fuck us over again, it'll be before the end of the year.
>>143360084
Guts actually got raped by Giganigga as a kid though.
>>143359701
Is that the best you can do? The manga is quite long you know and also Luca is a whore.
>>143358350
i think all the good gods were killed by those evil gods.
>>143360229
I know that, and it was handled extremely well despite the blacked swordsman memes, same for Griffith's case, although his wasn't really a rape, but he still felt great disgust and shame.
I just think the rape at times tends to be over the top that it borders on comical i.e. Rape Horse, Wyald's tongue cock, which is weird cause Miura handled Guts/Casca's/and Griffith's (if you count his) rape in a mature manner.
I think the only real thing to complain about with the rape is that it mostly happens to women, and that ALL the women in the series are attractive or look like super models so some people might think it's sexualizing them. I don't but yeah, I don't want to get into a dumb tumblr argument cause I actually think Miura is pretty good (for the most part) with his treatment of women in the series.
Is there really no porn of Berserk or is sad panda just fucking with me?
>>143360273
The only important female that was raped was Casca. And she was raped once.
>>143360273
well no Schierke wasn't, Isma wasn't, Nina wasn't, Erika wasn't on top of that list I gave you. And those are the most prominent female characters, farnese was never raped either, although it was attempted.
The only main female character that got raped was Casca.
>>143360421
nobleman tried to rape caska as a kid when griffisu made her save herself
>>143360505
do we count attempted rapes as rapes cause casca had that a number of times, hell even Guts almost raped her.
>>143358350
>a white's man daily life
>>143360505
>tried
Exactly. Attempted rape is quite common in early Berserk, but not many characters got really raped.
>>143358350
Doyou guys realize ho comon rape was before the 1600's.
Your fucking genetic line is probably a result of rape.
>>143359921
Well, i cant really disagree with that
>>143359657
>I can't complain about anything if I'm not creating anything myself
>>>/co/catalog
I guarantee the editor is the one who said to put edgy shit in it
It's an /a/ tries to deny that Berserk isn't edgy episode.
>>143358350
Miura idolizes Nagai unironically
>>143360384
>needing unofficial porn of berserk
>>143359421
>>143359335
he was 18 when he started the work that would become berserk
not 16
>>143361381
I would like some expanded porn!
Why does it almost never feel like Puck is ever in any danger?
He's on Guts' ass constantly, but it always seems like he'll never have to worry about meeting his end.
>>143358350
Rape is literally just sex so who cares?
I know you're baiting but god doesn't exist.
>>143360190
That still doesn't explain how you find Berserk rape funny. Clown rape is funny, getting held down by a guy named Donovan and sodomized isn't.
>>143361458
Most people can't see him.
>>143361553
But it is. I laughed in a non-sadistically way.
Other men getting raped is funny for me.
>>143361381
>replying to a retarded post with an even more retarded post
Either this is reaching levels of irony I cant comprehend or its just really summer
>>143358350
Hate to break it to you but besides the fantasy elements... People being used abused for labor and sex is a big thing in the Dark ages especially if you include Viking raids. People using themselves or selling others for sex in desperate need for resources was thing. Of course that constant desprateness causes a lot war, murder, and even more raiding.
It's a dark for many reasons
>>143359137
Sometimes the shock and placement in of rape stories can give bit of ridiculousness, "what the actual fuck!?", And dark humor. So it doesn't feel like something serious and tramaizing as it should.
Read Crossed comics to see what I mean.
>>143361988
rape is the least of anyone's worries in Crossed
>>143359335
>>143359421
>born 1966
>years active: 1976-present
miura what the fuck
>>143361210
Well in a way yes it does, but it works well with the story and it's points. It supposed show extreme dark parts of people and life.
It's not like thrown in to force some sort of dark depth a to character or a trope like that.
>>143360384
There is a pretty sweet doujin of GutsxCasca, you should be able to find it on the panda.
And also a fuckton of Griffith Guts yaoi
>>143359466
>hates women
>been loyal to his waifu longer than the fucking boat saga
>>143362202
Many long hiatuses.
I want a ending to make this complete story at some point but look at us at 2016
>>143362300
Waifu faggotry is fueled by hatred toward real women. Never heard of 3DPD?
>>143362232
>And also a fuckton of Griffith Guts yaoi
>>143362202
>>143362371
im@s is a cruel mistress that denies us what we want the most
>mwf a friend I introduced to Berserk a year ago actually starts shaking & gets bloodshot eyes when anyone mentions im@s now, his hatred for it is so intensely autistic
>>143358350
I dunno how they handle the rape in the new Berserk anime. They'll probably censor it to fuck.
>>143358350
>>143358839
You're just an idiot then who can't handle or shouldn't read mature content. Stick to Disney XD
>>143363352
They'll definitely imply it but before it happens they will blackout it, face something else, go to the next scene, or a mix of them
>>143364008
Oh well. How are you guys otherwise expecting it to turn out? I just finished the old anime series 3 days ago and I'm cautiously optimistic about the new one. Also, the old anime was pretty explicit with Casca's tentacle rape scene.
>>143364499
I'm actually excited for it, I recently watched the Golden Age movies and from the PV the animation in the new anime seems better than that, as long as it's consistent I'll be happy.
I fapped to troll orgy quite a bit back in the day.
>tfw the village was probably overrun by trolls again after Griffith fucked up the world
>game starts out with Guts and Casca traveling together
>came out before Guts and Casca were reunited
Huh.
>>143361210
>It's an /a/ tries to deny that Berserk isn't edgy episode.
You know that edgy isn't synonymous with bad right? Berserk's edge is well grounded and built into the world it's in.
>>143361337
Who doesn't?
>>143358350
>OBJECTIVE: GET 100 (YOU)'S
Nice bait m8.
The more I think about it and with people saying Falconia will fail because utopia's can't exist because God Hand is evil... Falconia could be allowed to exist, as a form of evil and actually be a utopia where people live in peace.
A utopia existing for a few thousands, while refusing to stop millions from dying, or allowing them to enter is arguably more evil then just killing them all.
You get mental, and physical suffering. People KNOW there is a paradise, they DESPISE the people there, and want to be PART of it but never can and must eventually meet their fate while KNOWING a paradise exists.
Seems pretty fucking evil actually.
>>143358350
>>143358378
post the pic of blonde curly haired slut having a threesome
>>143362526
Right... because hatred must be the answer for all forms of fantasy, as if most women in real life today aren't just cunts and guys just starting to really get tired of it and find solace in fantasies. You know what this is bait but maybe youre right maybe its hate, but for all the right reasons, like as one should hate evil or wrong doing in general one should hate evil or wrong doing in others too
>>143359098
>it's not the monsters fault, so I can't hate them. It's like getting mad that a dog bit your kid instead of being mad at the owner
You are possibly beyond help. That's the dumbest thing I've read in weeks.
Imagine a dog with no owner attacks your kid. Are you seriously implying that you wouldn't kill it to save your child? Would you honestly stand by and watch while refusing to grant agency to the dog's actions?
>>143358350
WOW YOU DEVELOPED EMPATHY! Amazing super power you related to a work of fiction.
Rape in fiction is always funny.
It's never scary and just a cheap and quick way to show how EEEVIL your villain is or make a character a broody cunt.
>>143362691
for some reason I just imagine someone sitting still with bloodshot eyes zooming in as Ready!! slowly begins to play.make sure to tell him the new game comes out in july
Eh, the only part that made me realy feel sick, in Berzerk, was how Ganishka's empire produced their unholy forces.
hundreds of thousands of women having shitty expendable devils bursting out of their wombs wasn't something I wanted to know about.
>>143358350
That's
That's the whole point
>>143358350
You forgot the one where the little insectoid children play adult with Puck.
I want a berserk rape compilation
>>143367646
I-is it wrong that I fapped to this? I felt guilty immediately after though.
>>143369062
certainly not. you've just finally realized your gurofag self. welcome to the club, plenty of faps to go around.
>>143358350
> rape=funny ????
What make you believe that?
Also, there is a short chapter, were Griffith meets "god", but Miura redconned it.
>>143358350
The women are pretty obviously enjoying it. It's not rape.
>>143359466
That's how females are in real life. Sorry to burst your bubble.
>>143372868
the rape scenes in berserk is so unrealistic it comes out cringy desu. If wanna do a rape scene it has to be realistic
>>143359104
>gutsu
>...
Newfag
>>143372987
What a retarded notion. Settings and acts are treated in a manner of ways to elicit different emotions in the reader. All of it is part of a construct to bring the reader along the way of the work, you don't have to treat scenes or act a certain way, you need to treat them in a way that suits the purpose of your work.
For example, rape is not funny, huge flowery demon cocks are however hilarious. Putting these in the rape allows you to instill some otherworldliness, horror and humour in a scene, for example.
>>143372917
>That's how females are in real life. Sorry to burst your bubble.
>>143372868
Women have the best orgasms during rape tho, and they have a higher chance of getting preggers than during consensual sex.
>>143358905
i guess thats the thing but at least humans are easy to kill
>>143366301
Literally Musou Shitposting.
>>143373154
iwhat i was trying to say is the females act like generic hentai characters and not like actual people getting raped or about to get raped. like i said if you are going to do a rape scene it should be realistic if not it just comes off as edgy shock value shit.
>>143358350
Berserk has always been edgy shit. The arts nice the stories garbage. We've been over this.
>>143373821
>females act like generic hentai characters
I take it you've raped someone?
When it happened to me my body responded to the sensations but my mind didn't agree. Girls react differently to how it happens, but the core feeling we share is that we want it to stop.
>>143374353
you really think girls act like a hentai character when they're being raped?
>>143374417
dude WHAT THE FUCK spoilers asshole
fuck you Sansa marries Euron
>>143374502
now we're even*
>>143374484
I'm guessing anon means blushing, yamates and lots of gasps.
>>143374417
>I want my /pol/b/int/ meme on my mangoes
Fuck off.
>>143374417
FUCK TOMMEN
>>143374502
Does she like his "big cock"
God is the one who caused it. God is evil in that world, and humans created it with thought.
Humans basically, as a species, wanted a reason for their suffering. So the existence they created basically said, "ALRIGHT, YOU FUCKS. HERE'S YOUR REASON."
So they created the Godhand to sow suffering on Earth, and they're responsible for all this.
>>143371808
Was that the part during the eclipse, where the tornado heart thing was talking to Griffith? Yeah, he's like the God of demons, I think they call it the Idea of Evil.
The more I htink about though, I think God, or the counterpart to the demons, would be the elemental Gods that Sheierke get's posessed by during her spells. She mentioned before that those were what the humans prayed to before the Holy See made them pray to their God instead, who doesn't exist in that world. So the people keep praying and asking for help from something that doesn't even fucking exist.
>>143373821
How exactly should someone act when they're getting raped so that it comes across as realistic? In most actual rape cases, the woman gives consent and enjoys it, but because everyone on capmus/at work/online found out she's a whore, they cry rape to save face.
>>143372917
>actually makes sense
You cheeky cunt
>>143358350
>How would that make you feel?
Trying to compare the real world to a fiction one is a sign of autism
>>143358350
>And if there are all these demons running around, where the fuck is God?
If you have already read up to the Love Cave, you also had the pleasure to see Berserk's god.
It's an H.P. Lovecraftian trunk penis space monster.
>>143361632
>Other men getting raped is funny for me
He was a kid.
>>143363390
Kogan is such a disgusting piece of shit
>>143359466
It's to excentuate the horror of this manga. He doesn't hate women, infact he's using more accurate portrayal of how women were abused and raped back then, even more so now that the setting is a fantasy. There were stories of how goblins and trolls would eat people and even rape people, this manga actually shows it.
>>143359439
in the manga it is literally what that anon said, there was a chapter where Griffith meets god. The thing is god was created because humans sought vengeance on eachother through prayer.
That's why berserk world is so horrible, there is no heaven only hell. The manga isn't based off of your personal beliefs.
>>143362526
No its not it not, it's fueled over infatuation for a fake women.
3DPD was never supposed to be taken seriously till people actually started crying over it.
>>143369601
>gurofags
disgusting.
