I have to stay awake tonight and since we got THREE new scanlated chapters of Rokudenashi Blues, thought we may as well have a delinquent thread. Hope everything is going well with my delinquent manga reading bros.
Will start off by dumping Rokudenashi Blues and then we'll see how things go. As always, complain about dropped series and no scans/rows for some series etc.
A few things about Rokudenashi Blues.
It has the best artwork of any weekly series I have read so far.
It is almost certainly the most commercially succesful delinquent manga as far as manga sales alone go (I'd argue Crows might have more influence and lasting power).
I don't think this is confirmed but the characters Moritaka Mashiro in Bakuman might be based partially on Masanori Morit; similar names, known art prodigies, both made debuts at the age 17.
RokuBlues managed to hang in the top 3 of WSJ during it's Golden period which is impressive.
And probably the most irritating thing of all, the whole thing is available in French and has been for ages. You don't know how lucky you are France, you have all the goddamn delinquent manga available in your own language.
Also, official thread theme as always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOPrnIglre4
>>143347094
Are these series not marketable in English-speaking countries? What makes France so different?
Where'd you get the scans?
Speaking of Morita manga, I'll mention again that based Delinquentanon scanlated the 3rd chapter of Beshari-Gurashi (which is based off a chapter in Suberu o Itowazu/Setting up to Fail). I don;t he's picking it up regularly but I'll read anything which has Morita's godly artwork in it.
>>143346753
Goddamn, I haven't seen a delinquent thread for ages. Has Saizen come back yet? I need them to translate the Be-Bop HighSchool OVAs.
>>143347245
I'm not sure but it's probably something to do with France being the biggest reader of manga outside of Japan, they've had manga there for ages and ages. There's a site somewhere which is specifically for French subs of live action yankii manga adaptations. The lucky bastards.
>>143347354
For the new scans? Crazy delinquents and shit.
>>143347456
Still dead.
Man this artwork is great.
>>143347245
French are huge weebs
>>143346753
I'm reading Rookies and I fucking love it.
I also found out that the same mangaka also wrote Rokudenashi Blues but I didn't like that as much as Rookies. I only read a few chapters at the start of Rokudenashi blues and it just didn't pull me in like the start of Rookies.
Is Rokudenashi Blues a slow burn kind of manga and it's just that the start is weak?
>>143348595
I liked RB from the beginning but it gets better as time goes on. As far as the scans go we haven't even got close to the real main part of the story in so far as only 1 of the 3 remaining 'four heavenly kings' has been revealed. it didn;t start getting really high weekly rankings until a bit later into it's story as well.
Rookies is great, probably my third favourite baseball manga. I must have re-read Rookies like 4 times by now, it isn;t even that amazing but there's something about it which makes it very re-readable.
>>143348595
Rookies is great, but I prefer Rokudenashi Blues.
>>143348748
Damn, I thought it was fully scanlated because there were 145 chapters done but turns out its got 42 volumes, holy fuck.
I like long running delinquent manga so I'll definitely read RB at some point though, especially since the mangaka is so god-tier at making you care about characters,
End of chapter 1. Not sure how much I'll end up dumping. Kind of want to dump A-Bout! at some point as well.
Why do you look so much like Elvis.
>>143348997
It's sad that so many delinquent series are in the 20+ volume range. We're going to be dead by the time all of BBH is done. But that might be the longest at 48 volumes and Chameleon might be second longest at 47 volumes.
>>143348595
Some delinquent manga are pretty much SoL comedies, as in weak overarching stories and your day-to-day life.
I don't have anything to say beyond that I've wanted to get into this sort of manga/anime because of the Kunio series and that from what I've briefly read and watched of it Osu!! Karatebu seems like an underrated fun series. The art is technically pretty bad but knows how to look funny and interesting and that's what matters
The OVAs make the characters seem less like bad guys though which I don't like
>>143349462
Oh and also I've kept telling myself "I'll read Rokudenashi Blues" since like 2007 when I encountered the series in Jump Ultimate Stars and thought it had fun art
ONE DAY
>>143349462
Haven't read Osu!! is a long time, I'm glad it's still getting scanlated though.
Just checked on MU and it appears Clover is now finished. The scanlations for volume 31 starteda few weeks ago and the whole series is 43 volumes. Could this mean we might actually see the whole thing done in our lifetime? God I hope so, I really like Clover even if it is more Crows.
>>143349528
>ONE DAY
TODAY
I also like Osu!! Karatebu, I get a similar vibe from it as Otokojuku in it's early chapters. It's probably because they are both manga that started off as gag manga and then became shounen fighters.
>>143349539
I wanna read all of it one day. It seems to start off totally comedic in the most puerile way possible but then it starts having more serious characterization moments while still keeping the ridiculousness. That sounds exactly like my kind of thing.
I was sad that the OVAs were so censor-happy, trying to make the protags characters seem more like heroes than good-for-nothings, because the production values were pretty good.
>>143349724
>>143349767
Oh shit we made the same point.
Anyway I can't read it now as I'm too tired and I have to finish watching Ashita no Joe S2's coverage of the Carlos arc until the end of the month for reasons. But thanks for reminding me of Rokudenashi regardless.
>>143349874
You've actually reminded me I still need to watch Ashita no Joe, been putting it off since I read the manga ages ago. But need to watch Space Adventure Cobra and the KKOW OVAs first.
Also out of the two, I prefer Otokojuku over Karate Bu.
>>143350048
I just really like scribbly loose no-fucks-given art so Karate Bu appeals to me more. But I know Otokojuku is the more popular series in the west by far.
As far Japan I dunno; Karate Bu was popular enough to get a live action film as far as I remember.
>>143350048
The KKOW OVAs are great, not as good as the manga, but I really enjoyed them.
>>143350161
Otokojuku is probably more famous in Japan as well, used to rank fairly close to top 3 in WSJ, got two sequels, an anime and a pachinko game.
It got a live action movie as well but don't look too much into that, there appears to be a weirdly large amount of delinquent series which get live action movies. Fucking Gaki Rock, which was a one volume oneshot got a live action adaptation. Who is in charge of these decisions?
>>143346753
Who's doing the new scans, are they planning on finishing it?
>>143350212
Same. Most of these OVAs aren't as good as their manga counterparts but it's nice they even exist. Especially with KKOW since there's like 10 of them.
>>143350417
The group is called Crazy Delinquents and Shit. Not sure if they will end up finishing it or not. They might have been the people who said they would definitely do until the end of the Onizuka arc and then see from there though, I'm not certain. At this point any new chapter is better than nothing.
Chapter 3.
>>143350608
The Crows OVA and the Rokublues OVA are just chapters from the manga done one to one, the soundtracks from groups like the Street Beats and the Blue Hearts is pretty good, Japanese punk rock is great.
Isn't Crazy Delinquents and Shit scans just one guy?
>>143350702
I really like hearing delinquent/yakuza voices which is another reason why I like OVAs.
As for Crazy Delinquents.
>Real life getting in the way once again - I’m still translating, but it’s slightly slower going now. We’ve got a new typesetter, who I’m very grateful for, so things should be picking up again.
There's at least two of them then.
>>143350827
I'm once again not reading this because I'm in no mental state for this but looking at the art I like how it's more realistic than most manga but still has cartoony expressions and doesn't feel stiff at all. Kinda reminds me of Gon in that regard where the animals were realistic and painstakingly detailed but made wacky-ass (yet not generic anime-looking) faces. Odd comparison I know but I read far less manga than I watch anime.
Meanwhile the opposite to me would be something like Crying Freeman. So serious it becomes unintentionally silly and a huge step down from Lone Wolf & Cub as far as the more serious & less wackyzany Mad Bull 34-like Kazuo Koike works go.
It takes a few chapters for Morita's girls to not look so odd.
God, Morita's art is super good. I dunno what it is about it that makes it so appealing. I've been thinking about reading Rookies simply because I love his style.
>>143350983
>I'm once again not reading this because I'm in no mental state for this
Give in and stay up all night to read it like I am doing.
And yeah one of things I like about RB is that even though the art is more realistic there are a lot of shounen comedy elements in it which don't feel out of place.
Also in fairness, even though they were all written by Kazuo Koike, Crying Freeman, LW&C and Mad Bull 34 all had different artists. Goseki Kojima's art in LW&C is GOAT tier along with Morita with RokuBlues, Tetsuo Hara with Hokuto no Ken and Muira with Berserk. Hara is probably my favourite but I am a huge HnK fanboy (as is Morita since he was Hara's assistant when he started out). Ryoichi Ikegami is also godlike but his art is a little better in Sanctuary than anything else I reckon.
>>143350048
Also kinda off topic but I'm gonna respond to your Joe comment.
Some people here really like the Joe anime while others prefer the manga. They're different in a bunch of ways with both seasons of the anime being a bit more in-your-face and theatric in their execution. Dezaki added a bunch of super-dramatic detailed shots that were never in the manga along with some extra scenes; Joe finally making up his mind about picking up boxing was far much more of a "FUCK YEAH" moment in the Dezaki version than it was in the manga, with Joe dramatically running back towards the prison after escaping and then changing his mind as a more optimistic and hot-blooded version of the theme song played.
I prefer the anime, but I understand why some people prefer the manga. My main issue with the latter is that I'm not the biggest fan of Chiba's art; I've read a lot of old manga and I love the old art of people like Nagai, Tezuka and Ishinomori but Chiba's drawings for Joe just don't really click with me the way both of the anime styles do.
>>143349587
It's not like Crows anymore though, it bracnhes out and oes it's own thing I believe, it's still nothing impressive but enjoyable nonetheless. Honestly in 2016 people can no longer bitch and moan about delinquent series not getting any love, there are so many already completed and so many being actively worked on. It's not a matter of what we get, it's a matter of both quality of the series and that people don't care enough to make threads whenever a new chapter for whatever series gets updated.
>>143351326
Yeah but do they get translated? What series is your image from?
>>143350161
Good news in terms of art is that if you're willing to put up with 300 chapters of Otokojuku's difficult art you'll be rewarded with a huge improvement in its sequel.
>>143351034
For me the most appealing thing about Morita's art is the facial expression. They are so much better than every other manga artist expression and are better by a wide margin. Take someone like Hiroaki Samura who people cite as excellent artists, the excels in detail and is probably the best at depth perception and accurate art at odd angles, but he can't convey the same level of facial expression of Morita, and Morita is no slouch as far as detailed artwork goes as well.
Some of Takehiko Inoue's work comes close to it.
>>143351279
Yeah I know they're not drawn by Koike, I was just saying I saw it as a downgrade in terms of the artist he had on board.
I want to read Mad Bull but I always end up arguing over stuff like that whenever I get into it. I feel that far too often old-school anime/manga fans are unable to realize when something is intentionally campy and instead dismiss it as "objectively bad, unintentionally funny". As if Japanese people as a race are somehow incapable of self awareness.
>>143351326
There are still elements of it which are like Crows (Hammer Head are basically The Front Of The Arament for example) but it does enough things differently that it's worth reading in it's own right. The characters are totally different which is nice.
And even though we are getting a lot more chapters of things, I think there's a lot still uncompleted and even more with nothing. My desire to read High Teen Boogie is likely to go unfufilled it seems, if I was to give one example.
>>143351370
Hareulya II Boy. Completely scanned. The author has another manga called Bremen which features some delinquency and is also all done. Both a little weird though.
>>143351306
I've heard a lot about how Dezaki was responsible for making the anime better than the manga but I am skeptical a little bit. For me, Ashita no Joe is objectively the best manga ever made, I am kind of worried about the anime adaptation not living up to it, although I know what it's like it won't ruin it
>>143350983
You don't need any mental state for a series like this man, it's just a SoL comedy about highschool kids getting into fights and shit, not that serious really.
>>143351370
Yes they do get translated, that's my whole point, the amount of delinquent manga getting scanlated is far more than any other year in history. (I'm guessing).
>>143351659
Yeah there are definitely hundreds of delinquent manga out there that will never get scanlated but let's be fair, most of them are complete shit anyways.
>>143351766
Yeah I doubt you'd like it as much in that case and every post you've seen saying the anime is better was probably mine. They're pretty different in their execution so it's best to get into the anime expecting a Dezaki anime and not a perfect adaptation of your favorite manga.
It is my favorite Dezaki anime from what I've seen because I really like how weird and experimental the visuals got in the first season and I also really, really like the story. With something like Cobra I'm mainly just watching it for the execution and I don't care much what's going on but with Joe it's totally different, it's really one of the best-written action shonens of all time.
Just got up to chapter 34 of RokuBlues.
How long do these Duwang-tier scans go on for?
Chapter 4, I quite like this one.
>>143351991
I have to agree that recently there has been a nice steady stream of scanlated chapters from various series which is great.
And also, most of everything is shit. I think the feeling of wanting more delinquent manga scanlated is just a longing for something you can't have. I doubt I will read many delinquent manga that are better than Crows/RokuBlues/BR/KKOW but still, I really want to read them. If I had to pick three I most want to read they'd be Bad Boys, Otokogumi and Shonan Bakusozoku, I could live without the rest. I'd also say Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daishou but that is literally never going to get scanlated, I am sure of it.
>>143352006
Oddly enough even though I think AnJ is the best manga ever, I think HnK is my actual favourite manga. I will eventually watch it, it's just that I don't have any time for 24+ episode series anymore and reading manga is much faster than watching anime. From what I hear, I think it's considered Dezaki's best work.
>>143352351
By the next chapter they are back to being single pages. Not very high quality scans but not unreadable either.
I do like the small comedy bits in RB.
Does Maeda ever lose or does he Gary Stu his way through every fight?
What's your favorite semi-delinquent manga? That is, shonen which incorporates delinquency as a minor element, like YYH or virtually anything Otokojuku.
>>143353374
This is a popular manga which ran in WSJ during the 90s, what do you think?
Although, he does lose sometimes. There are a few times where he wins but doesn't win clean.
>>143353508
I got into Drop but it sucks no one has continued translating it for a long time
>>143353508
If it counts, probably Ashita no Joe since Joe is basically a delinquent at the start of the story but it's not specifically about delinquency.
If not then maybe GTO since it isn't as much of a yankii manga as SJG but still has a lot of those elements in it.
>>143353374
The Gary Stuness is the strongest at the beginning to the point of annoyance but it does tone down, as for whether he actually loses any fights or not I'm not sure nor recall clearly.
>>143353508
Slam Dunk or Real.
>>143353669
Semi? Isn't Drop a completely delinquent? Either way man it's so bad, you're better off reading something else.
Chapter 5.
>>143353754
What do you recommend I'm new to this delinquent thing
>>143353834
Read Crows. I keep re-reading it and it keeps ending up being better than I remember even with it's flaws.
I think more people here would say to read KKOW though.
I love this page.
>>143353834
Not happy with it but take it.
>>143354459
Fucking hell no wonder this took so long. I disagree with some of it but whatever, it's mostly personal taste.
I had a feeling you weren't going to put Crows in top tier even though I kept going on about it desu.
>>143354459
I wish shakotan boogie was translated
>>143354873
> I disagree with some of it but whatever,
Let me know what, it's pretty much done but I'm not happy with how it looks so I might revision it and move it around every now and then.
>>143354973
So do I, low riders seem like a really cool theme. As much as I like KKOW and mindless delinquent manga, Bosozoku stuff is nice because there's a bit of underlying story and progression in them, characters wanting to be part of a gang, getting a car/bike, modifying it, and so on.
>>143355163
Just needs a few things moving around for me but I agree with a lot of it. I'd say move Crows in top tier, Kiku in upper tier, Angel Densetu in upper tier, Ocha Nigosu in middle tier,
Also a couple of things.
>Bakuon Rettou: by Masanori Morita
Lol.
>Shonan Junai Gumi: Scanlation complete
Is that right? Has someone done the gap?
Chapter 6. Starts setting up things for the next volume.
>>143355423
>>Bakuon Rettou: by Masanori Morita
Thanks, didn't caught that one.
>>Shonan Junai Gumi: Scanlation complete
No but I mean, it's technically fully published in english right? Oh but I guess the chart does say "Scanlation" so you're right, gotta change that. Thanks.
As for your placements, and not that far off against them, seem pretty resonable other than Angel Densetsu in my opinon, would love to hear what other Anons have to say though.
>>143355627
I think I've said before that I find most of Angel Densetsu to be as funny as KKOW, but that might be only me. Also I don't even know if SJG is all available to buy in English, I thought it was available all in French (again, the bastards).
Noted another typo, last title should be Ai To Makoto, missing the last O off. Also is Mabudachi Jinga available in English, I've only found Spanish scans for it. You could also put (+ sequel) next to Kamen Teacher if you wanted.
>>143355852
My opinion with Angel Densetsu is that it's good but only the first half.
>Mabudachi Jinga
Oh fuck you're right, I forgot that I read it in spanish. Shit I should remove it completely off the chart that being the case. But having that hole there would suck balls, ideally none of the tiers would have any holes but can't always get what I want I guess. I'll leave it for now to be honest because I doubt anyone's gonna read it anyways.
>>143356067
>I doubt anyone's gonna read it anyways.
You say that yet I was thinking about how it make a good OP pic in future delinquent manga threads I might make, so people might end up seeing it.
>>143356067
Just though, you could remove Mabudachi Jinga and replace it with King Golf, since it's got English scans and it would be in bottom tier as far as delinquent manga go. I say that but I'd still read it if someone was scanlating it.
Chapter 7.
>>143356202
You think I should I remove it then?
>>143356325
I'm gonna remove it then but I tried reading King Golf and thought it was more of a sports manga than delinquent really. Not sure if I understood you though, to be clear, the Tiers don't represent how "delinquent" a manga is if that's what you're thinking, Tiers simply mean how good or bad the manga is to me. If you're implying that King Golf is awful then I can believe you because I dropped it pretty damn fast.
>>143356784
King Golf is a sports manga but set in a delinquent school and has delinquent fights and shit in it, they go on about it a little bit. And I thought the tiers were about how good the manga was which is why I said put it in low tier, King Golf does absolutely nothing original other than be a manga about Golf, MC is standard overpowered Shounen fighter MC, humour is subpar, it appears to be endless tournament arcs etc. But like I said, fuck it, if someone would scanlate it I'd still read it for some reason.
It's like how I won't complain about Sakigake Otokojuku being low down in the list because even though I really like it, objectively it isn't very good.
Last chapter from volume 1, chapter 8. I'm deciding between dumping volume 2 since it builds on a lot of what happened in volume 1 and ends at a better point than volume 1 does or stopping to watch some shit for the rest of the night instead since I kind of have a feeling that most of the people in the thread might have already read RokuBlues.
That's the end of volume 1.
Might post volume 2 if the thread stays alive.
>>143353865
>CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
lmao
People missing out on this.
>>143363278
Been meaning to read it.
>>143363278
Is that guy really a fag?
>>143365033
Pretty much.
>>143355423
I was considering moving Crows and Kiku up respectively, without moving Ocha Nigosu or Angel Densetsu but that would leave the Middle tier with 2 ugly blank spots instead of 1 ugly blan stop. Alternatively to fix that I could move up QP, Crows and Worst gaiden stories because they're basically the same as the 3 main series so it's all the same really. But I could only move 2 due to space unless I lowerd something from the Mid tier to Lower tier to make room for those 3. From that I'd end up with either 2 or 3 holes in the lower tier, fuck me if only there were a few more scanlated delinquent manga.
I just found out about a mangaka who did a lot of bousouzoku manga, Furukawa Yuu. It seems like he's pretty obscure, though a couple of his manga were adapted to OVA.
>>143346753
Post-apocalyptic/alternate history/war epic delinquents when? Yankiis deserve a place in speculative fiction.
>>143366059
>>143365620
Trying to find a few delinqeunt manga under the radar and holy fuck there's quite a lot of yaoi and hetai.
>>143366122
That was a oneshot. I need more.
Just finished Kongou Banchou the other day and holy shit was it fun.When he punched his brother around the entire planet, my dick became diamonds. Also, gay batman was the best character.
In other news, does anyone remember that one manga Guren 5? It got a chapter translated a while back, the first one I believe, then never continued after that. Then later on I checked online, and apparently it only had 15 chapters or so. I was kinda disappointed because I really like Blood Lad's character designs, and the story seemed generic, but enjoyable enough.
>>143367800
only 15 chapters scanlated or 15 chapters total?
>>143367713
>>143367843
15 chapters, then axed I believe. It's labeled as complete.
