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Anyone wish Yamada and Matsumi became a couple at the end or something?
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I haven't watched Luluco yet, but has anyone else noticed Luluco and Nova right in the picture?
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>>143339907
fuck you what

how did I not see this
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>>143339907
No, you are the only one.
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So Yuta's whole purpose is to flirt with Maki and talk to her
So Hisomu's entire purpose is to crack jokes about pain and smile like a retard

You could have written these two out of the show and nothing would have been lost.
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So who won the variousb owls? I've been a zombie for the past couple months and need to know if this is worth finishing.
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>>143339089
There's something about everyone's mouths that make me hard. Can't quite figure it out.
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>>143340032
Yuta's purpose is to convert her back to an healthy normal female

Job well done
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What did she think they were doing? What exactly was the problem here?
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>>143340075
Yes, it's good. It didn't sell (was a flop), but nips have shit taste, so it's expected from them
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>>143339907
>Someone wasn't here yesterday
we lost our shit and everything
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>>143340075
Out of OP's image 3/6, 4/5 and 7/8.
It was awful, don't bother.
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>>143340796
Naw, I'm just a huge faggot for shipping, and wanted to make sure "my" ships won.

>>143340908
Just as keikaku, Thanks.
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>>143340885
thanks for the heads up. I just looked at the archived thread from yesterday (^^)
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>>143340977
Link? I must know.
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>>143341006
here you go, friendo >>143298492
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>>143340032
Then the drama level would be too high. Yuta and Hisomu balance things out when Tenga and Chidori are shitflinging.
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>>143340278
Being told that cicadas come to the surface to mate is enough to make Chidori bright red. She's a prude.
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Ok so what's the deal with Sonozaki jumping off the bridge as a child and later on from the school roof? Was this even explained?
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>>143340032
Chidori's whole purpose is to repeat
>muh Kacchon
and be a selfish cunt.

Tenga's entire purpose is to be a retarded normie meathead pussy cruncher who is actually a hypocritical self-cucking beta faggot.

Nico's purpose is to be a token lolsorandomxd character with equally random design.

Katsuhira's purpose is to be a tabula rasa autist void of social abilities and empathy so Okada could insert her overly detailed and completely unnecessary explanations of human emotions.

Sonozaki's purpose is to be another autist who inflicts pain upon other people due to her misconceptions of happiness stemming from fucked up childhood.

Did I forget someone important?
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>>143339907
Everyone went batshit insane over it yesterday.
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Me I wanted masofag to be more important, he was literally best boy. And I really don't get Sonozaki's goal even if she is a cutie
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>>143339907
DUDE REFERENCES LMAO
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>>143339907
Alright thread over already, let's try again later when it's lulucofags bedtime.
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Where did the evil mooks come from? Is this a plothole?
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Anyone know where I can get the kind of shirt Chidori is wearing?
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>>143343798
Why? That shirt is for girls
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>>143343936
And?
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>>143343936
It's pretty as hell man
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The show would have been decent if it weren't for the shippingshit
Fucking Okada.
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I wish this show never aired it's fucking bad REEEE
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>>143342955
Not really. The first time it sounds like an attempt to give everyone their pain back. The second time it sounds like some way to prove that the Kizna system is "effective".

They dropped the plot point about the system stopping fatal damage by sharing wounds. Maybe she wanted to show the system makes people resistant to damage and isn't it amazing so don't stop it.
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Is okada going to kill herself now?
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>>143344553
Never. She entered the anime industry for the sole purpose of making otaku suffer and feed on their negative feelings.
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>>143344327
It's not an Okada show if it doesn't have shipping and forced drama.
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>>143344612
>She entered the anime industry for the sole purpose of making otaku suffer
Based Mari Okada.
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Was this too deep for me?

I feel most of it went right over my head.
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>>143344327
I liked the episode where in the end they all went to the beach and had fun together, after that everything went to shit because of muh love polygon. The teachers discussing the relationship chart was fucking cringeworthy.
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>>143344854
Don't worry its not deep they just tried to make everything sound as confusing as possible so it'd seem deep.
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Fuck Okada.
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>>143346748
Meh it was worth it because Sonozaki is cute, she is just like Brynhildr in Fate so that's enough for me
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>>143346748
I don't see the problem, the ending was good.
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Why is her skin red nwo?
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>>143346943
She is horny as fuck
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>>143346943
I assume from slapping the water so hard.
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>>143347039
You mean from what was probably a fatal height?
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Did they ever explain why sonozaki was alone in the first place? Couldn't she jsut make friends without needing the kiznaiver shit?
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>>143347111
Yeah, she really shouldn't have been able to stand there.
>>143347144
Shit parents isolating her.
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This anime should have been about "accepting pain = growing up" instead of whatever it was.
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>>143339089
>waiting for Asenshi
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Do people actually use "dissed"? I thought it was like ghetto-speak or something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaALuionxOs

What is this? Can't watch because I'm not Japanese.
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>>143347353
It's slang but yes it's pretty common amongst most people.
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>>143347447
Guys from Trigger showing frames on paper
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Is the chart finished?
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>>143347144
C U T E
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Well, that was a shitfest from start to finish. At least the aesthetics and the soundtrack were good.
It's a shame that full length trigger shows have been so shit. Thankfully, that shit streak is going to be broken the moment LWA airs.
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I'm glad Hisomu ended up on top at least. Man was a bastion of peace in between all the painful character interaction during the show.
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I want to have a threesome with Honoka-chan and Mutsumi sensei!
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So what would Chidori's pet name for Tenga be?
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>>143344033
You need a better shirt
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>>143339089
Kiznaiver is literally basic emotions 101. This show had a somewhat interesting premise but ended up just being the most asinine teenage drivel I have seen in ages. I'm not sure if this anime says more about the dysfunctional emotional state of Japan or the writer's lack of creativity.
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>>143353703
It wasn't that bad. The writing was mediocre, but they only obsess over this show being shit because they all have hate-boners for Okada.

The NTR was at least decent.
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>>143341822

she's a 15 year old virgin


>like most of you but not in mom's basement
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>>143354531
It wasn't that bad but it wasn't good either. It's the epitome of mediocrity.
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>>143347353

It's wasei-eigo, Japanese use "dis" (written in romaji) in netspeak pretty often.
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>>143347280

that's exactly what it's about derp

other theme is that relationships can be 'real' some shit as with 8man

anime sure does love to rehash the same shit over and over again
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>>143353703

I think this could have been well done in the context of overdramatic teenagers if there had been more time or fewer people

say 3 fucked up kids who can't emote and a new experimental treatment to get them back to a 'normal' state

throw in a triangle for drama and have an ending where one choses to die vs feel and the other become 'normal'

bam better plot in 3min
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These two ended up being the best characters of the anime. God dammit.

Why did they make it so the only couple you can't hate is Yuta and Maki's? Why the fuck did Chidori have to end up being Tenga's Tenga?
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Why couldn't the show have been about Red Kamina beating up people and picking up cute girl next door types on the rebound?
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>>143353417
Hacchon, duh.
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>>143356240
That's basically what the show was about.
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If this show had a smidgen of action it would have been much better. But still bad overall.
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>>143356240
Why is Tenga a stereotypical white knight faggot?
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>a season without Mari Okada
>without Mari Okada
>out Mari Okada
>Mari Okada
>Okada
YES!
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I'm sure it was said already, but one thing about this episode redeemed it in my eyes. They were aware of the clusterfuck that the Kiznaiver plot was and their lack of time to resolve it all, so the last ep didn't have neither OP nor ED. It's a humble gesture admitting their fuck-up and doing what little they could to fix it and I accept their apology.
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>Ruuko
>Hitoe
>Tama
>Yuzuki
I can't unsee
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Is Kiznaiver the greatest wasted potential AOTY?
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>>143357515
>wasted potential
>shit from the start
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>>143357512
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>>143347111
The pain was probably still divided between the people connected to her Kizna.
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>>143358109
Kacchon was still bleeding and went unconscious after he jumped off of an overpass onto a car. She should have been fucked up despite the kiznaiver.
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What to put on chart lads?
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>>143339089

Anybody not give a solitary fucking shit about this cast and doesn't feel like pretending they do after the fact for the purposes of /a/ shitposting and contrarianism.
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>>143353703

Teeny high-school romance melodrama really needs to make an exit as the basic format for hyped up titled. There's way too much of it and it's as a rule and by its nature just a terrible excuse for cheap drama, lazy writing and characterization. I think I'd rather watch another titty harem comedy anime before I watch another Teen Melodrama romance thing that think it had any sort of wisdom to impart on the world that anyone with a social life or even remote life experience has already long since figured out already. When you feel like you have more of a grip on things than the people making these shows it makes you wonder what the point is.
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>>143359392
>i don't like thing
>therefore it shouldn't exist
Okay.
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>>143359392
This.
Cheap teen melodrama anime (this show and others like Angel Beats or Charlotte) trying to preach their 'wisdom' are just cringey.
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Can we agree this is the final Bingo for Kiznaiver?
Can't wait for WIXOSS and please Okada don't fuck it up again
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>>143339089
Holy shit i just watched it and it was painfully corny and pretentious, like imagine actually reading out half of that dialogue, clearly written by an autist.
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>>143358109
>Trying to make sense of this shit

Stop, nothing about the kiznaiver system makes any kind of sense at all what's so ever, the show even goes on to say that the whole thing is literally pointless forced plot bullshit.

>How he not ded?
cause magic, that's it. There is no logic behind anything that happened in this show, ever.
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>>143360545
You might be onto something.
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It's interesting to see that even crap show like mayoiga handles scar theme better than show with "scar" on its title.
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>>143360397
Is Okada even working on it this time?
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Looks like the shitposters are on duty tonight
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>>143359392
To be honest Kiznaiver had more resolve than the usual teen drama series, and was way more direct when discussing friendship and what friends are and aren't for. The cast had a lot of energy that made it feel fresh even though the unrequited love drama got old at the end.

You don't necessarily have to watch this kind of anime just because you want to learn about human relationships. I personally enjoy it because remembering those lessons I already learned once in a while is nostalgic and makes you feel empathy for the characters.

Watching a group of friends strengthening its bonds and developing both individually and as a whole, no matter what kind of "bullshit" plot device (which was properly disregarded by the entire group of friends at the end anyways) brought them together is, for a certain audience that obviously doesn't include you, is fun.
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>>143361039
>Two 'is' at the end
GOD DAMMIT
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>>143339089
Holy shit this was terrible, idk maybe it's cause i didn't care for any of the characters, and i was hoping for the child hood friend girl(idk her name) to win cause i'm a contrarian like that, but either way i don't think there was anything to enjoy about this one.

Like it was legit unentertaining all the way through, i can't think of a single high point.
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>>143343036

yeah, that you are a virgin loser that hates everything, including yourself.
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This was fucking terrible but the art was so amazing
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>>143360936
shitposter?
honey, i don't think anyone like this show besides maybe tumblr fags like you, i think the people watching this weekly even hated on it in every thread. And the rest of /a/ is always talking about how shit this is.
Hell it has less pre-orders than luluco which already had abysmal sales itself.

/a/ hates it, japan hates it, everyone else already dropped it.

At this point, is it even shit posting?
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>>143361421
The art would've been nice if the characters where actually on model half the time, this show is the prime definition of QUALITY.

Luluco has a similar art style accept it's actually consistent.
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>>143339907
YO HOLY FUCK, I SAW THIS YESTERDAY BUT I DIDN'T SEE THEM IN THE CORNER. YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>143361429
It's known fact that /a/ and nips have shit taste.
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Man.

Imagine if this show wasn't about teenagers wanting to bang each other.
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>>143361429
You'd probably find it hard to imagine that instead of an anime (or anything else) being only either essentially shit or essentially great one can judge parts of it separately. Parts of kiznaiver were shit, parts of it were great. Overall I enjoyed watching despite it's faults.
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>>143356561
He tried to be the wingman of the girl he wanted. Strangely enough, it worked out for him in the end. If Tenga had aggressively pursued Chidori, he would have bombed because girls will always stubbornly choose their crushes on MC over a better alternative. But instead he worked his way in her heart so it'll be him she's thinking about after she comes to terms with reality.

Being a strong, handsome, assertive alpha jerk that would satisfy the deep-seated desires of goody goody girls like Chidori also helped.
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>>143356210
You're not wrong.
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>>143361429
>Hell it has less pre-orders than luluco which already had abysmal sales itself
Luluco is doing fantastic for a short, just going by the number of preorders (It doesn't release until September).

It's hilarious how easily it beat out Kiznaiver.
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>>143360397
I don't know anything about okada, but this seems like a pretty varied bingo sheet.
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>>143361887
I'm not even fucking with you.
What were the good parts?
The characters sucked, and so did the plot, the art and animation left much to be desired and i can't even remember the ost.

The directing is just average at best, nothing about it was super well done compared to literally anything else airing.

So what in your opinion where the good parts you speak of?
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>>143362186
>The directing is just average at best, nothing about it was super well done compared to literally anything else airing.
Do you even have eyes.
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>>143356210
Even though they seemed to be the most annoying ones.
Good stuff.
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This fucking stoked to be the rebound.

What a right dork.

Be honest, lads. Will the relationship last?
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>>143362732
Rebound relationships never turn out well.
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>>143362732
They're both self-destructive as fuck. I give it a year, Tenga is going to be more of an emotionless tuna than Kacchon by the end of it.
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>>143362732
They are both moral fags. They'll break up but will also form a crime fighting duo.

They'll be hated by the entire school.
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>>143362732
Yes, they complement each other. Also anime.
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Nico and Hisomu didn't have enough screen time
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>>143362732
It's hard to say. Tenga seemed like a pretty straight up guy until that one episode. Some people are decent but only at a distance. If you get close to them they're intolerable.
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>>143362954
As far as Nico, that's fine. Her gimmick would becoming tiring if we saw her more. And a character arc would mean weak drama.

Hisomu ended up being pretty chill. I thought I'd hate him, but I was fine with how he was handled.
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>>143362254
What about the directing was so great, that isn't present in literally every show airing currently.
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>>143339907
The one redeemable aspect of this show is a fucking reference. Sasuga Okada.
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>>143356561
Because Shitdori.
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>>143362732
No, Tenga will be left in despair and abused and hopefully run to Nico instead of being Shitdori's pussywhipped beta.
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>>143362176
What do you mean?
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what if Okada is actually an autist like us and this kind of understanding emotions is hard for her?
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>>143365751
>what if
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I really liked the show. Consistently decent animation with lots of colorful direction. People bitching about the story can do so, but the message overall was probably one of the most down-to-earth and reasonable of anything I've seen from Okada, and actually most anime in general.

The show introduces a supernatural element for connecting people and then forces cliche anime events on them to stimulate interaction. Yaamada wants things to succeed because he wants to have an entertaining time watching people finally find happiness through a pastiche of dramatic moments. He's the audience surrogate, representing what people come to expect of these shows.

In the end though, it's just the fact that they hanged around each other that they became friends, which is how it happens in real life. The hard hitting drama moments are mostly inconsequential. The connection of their pain only allows them to recognize there is pain, it doesn't treat it. Honoka doesn't become a friend just because they somehow solve her problem of emotional hang-ups. She just comes to like them after their dogged persistence in interfering with her life.
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>>143366240
cont'd (like who cares?)
People think common interest, compatibility, and life events form youth relationships. Sonozaki specifically chose them because they were supposed to be incompatible people, and thus it was necessary to connect their pain to build a connection, but real-life research has shown that relationships often form between dissimilar people just based on time and proximity of interaction, and in the end this was exactly how Nori and the kizna research was proven wrong. Even things like Chidori being a cockslut and thinking about Tenga after being rejected by Kacchon are pretty reasonable in real-life even if people will call it forced in media.

Basically, I think that the message is really underrated and to me it's made stronger by how it used rising "drama" to reach what is an otherwise mundane moral. In some ways it can be seen as a sort of criticism of relationships in media, but I'm not sure if Okada is self-aware enough to make that intentional.
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What the hell was the message of this series, anyway? Friendship will prevail? You don't need anything special to make friends? Just take the chance? Empathy is good?

I mean, I just don't get it. I don't think this series resolved anything. There wasn't any kind of conclusion. What the hell, Trigger?

At least the animation and character design was nice.
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>>143366360
it wasn't a message, it was about the individual characters
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This show's ending satisfied me. It was a treat to the eyes.
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>>143366240
>but the message overall was probably one of the most down-to-earth and reasonable of anything I've seen from Okada
>from Okada
I love that even someone who intended to praise this series STILL had to add a disclaimer on the end, because even they knew that calling it one of the most down-to-earth and reasonable in general would have been absurd.

>Yamada wants things to succeed because he wants to have an entertaining time watching people finally find happiness through a pastiche of dramatic moments. He's the audience surrogate, representing what people come to expect of these shows.
I liked that idea and it's one of Kiznaiver's better aspects.

>>143366288
>Even things like Chidori being a cockslut and thinking about Tenga after being rejected by Kacchon are pretty reasonable in real-life even if people will call it forced in media.
No, that was one of the least forced moments in the series. People were calling basically everything else 'forced'.

>the message is really underrated and to me it's made stronger by how it used rising "drama" to reach what is an otherwise mundane moral.
Something which has already been done much better in Kokoro Connect, which is part of why Kiznaiver had such poor reception: it's been done before and it was done better when it was done before.
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>>143360397
You forgot Agoraphobia. Honoka has panic attacks in the interview scene.
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>>143366360
If there's a message to be had, it's about how you don't need to understand everything about others, and you can't anyway, but you don't need to wait for something big to happen to start connecting to others around you.

For the most part it's a character story where we just watch people go through the growing pains of trying to find meaningful relationships. Now we just need the timeskip where everyone is barely in contact at all while they live away from each other after marrying people they met in college and working in different cities.
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>>143366997
Did they ever bring up that 'seven sins' bullshit after the first episode, btw?
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>>143366603
Haven't seen kokoro connect, but I'll probably watch it to see if it really hits that note right.

I certainly don't think Kiznaiver is perfect, but it was consistently putting a smile on my face with its visuals and events. Even in the middle of the show where I wasn't exactly sure what direction it was trying to go for, Trigger kept it visually interesting enough to keep me entertained. Which is actually a lot like Luluco where it thrives on visuals because the middle of the series has very little in the way of narrative movement.
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>>143367161
>Even in the middle of the show where I wasn't exactly sure what direction it was trying to go for, Trigger kept it visually interesting enough to keep me entertained.
I have no doubt that Trigger (as opposed to the writing) carried Kiznaiver as a series.
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>>143367073
They did at the end and a little bit earlier. Most of the seven sins weren't really meant to mean anything which I think they explicitly state. What they really mean is that they chose a diverse set of individuals who they could not reasonably expect to get along otherwise and connected them with pain because they would be the greatest challenge, and if they could succeed with them, it would be trivial to connect others.

But the point of the entire thing is that their premise was flawed. Make most people hang around each other enough and even if they don't have much in common they'll take an interest in each other.

Thematically it works to give them character archetypes ripe for drama, but they don't do enough to explain it as in in-universe thing.
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Oh, Tenga.
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>>143359476

Up until it became clear that this show was bombing and nobody really liked it /a/ didn't even pretend to give a shit about it and now that it has numbers and complete reviews the board is trying to have some love in for it like it was a masterpiece anyone ever seriously liked. Stop being fake as absolute fucking shit about everything and then maybe I'll consider your dumb request that makes no sense and is just typical contain bullshit
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>>143359667

Its corporate shills trying to preach shit that only corporate shills or possibly miscreants would ever think is good or even necessary life advice is the problem.
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>>143362153

Good fuck Aniplex and also because it's extremely rare to see a show do better without their bullshit and marketing these days then with and in such a clear and contrasting way for the whole world to see
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>>143354671
She's seventeen though.
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>>143348878
I'm the chart anon I need suggestions for this episode's entry
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>>143368427
There are people on /a/ who loved Kiznaiver the whole time and others on /a/ who dropped it almost immediately. /a/ isn't one person...
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I'm going to be mad for a long time how all these interesting characters ended up going to waste. I was sure this show was going to go into individual character drama. Imagine what we could have explored instead of the love pentagon: Yuta's eating disorder, Tenga's fear of dogs/weird living situation, Nico's apparent loneliness, Hisomu's....everything. Seriously, why didn't this show take more advantage of such a colorful cast? Those character introductions were the best parts.
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>>143368947
>I need suggestions for this episode's entry
Luluco and Nova.
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Fuck, now that I think of it, what ever happend to the meme chart? Did Chart-anon give up on us? If its been completed, can someone post it?
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>>143369586
>Seriously, why didn't this show take more advantage of such a colorful cast?
When Okada hears 'drama' she only ever thinks of polygons.
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>>143369658
I'm here, im working on it right now
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>>143370173
Bless you my nigga, I haven't been in the threads since like episode 8 so I was afraid you might have given up. That pic is really all I have of the charts.
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>>143370257
gimme suggestions, final wont be as near grand like this but enjoy this one
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>>143370345
Red light on the bridge? Crashed cop car? Handheld radio? Recovering autists? For a finale, there weren't a ton of absolutely outstanding scenes.
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>>143370345
I've got no idea where to start with stuff to put in the image, but theres probably a handful of stuff in the climax and ending bit. Nothing really stuck out to me as really good though when I was skimming through it. Maybe Kacchon grabbing Nori-chan before they fall.
>>143370505
I think the bridge bit was really really well done, but I agree there weren't really any singular images or stills that were particularly outstanding.
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>>143368947
This: >>143369616
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That white haired boy is a bitch... How do you reject your childhood friend like that and then date a selfish dumbass girl... Chidori deserved better
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>>143340278
Somehow her acceptance makes it all so much worse
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>>143356210
>Why the fuck did Chidori have to end up being Tenga's Tenga
>Tenga's Tenga
How did I not see this. She is even red.
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I'm glad they cured her of her communisms. Would have been worst girl otherwise.
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>>143366997
>Now we just need the timeskip where everyone is barely in contact at all while they live away from each other after marrying people they met in college and working in different cities.
That's depressing.
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>>143362732
They balance each other and have great chemistry, so yes, they will last.

Also Tenga is whipped. If shit like this puts him over the moon, an actual admission of feelings will just about kill him.
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>>143366997
>Now we just need the timeskip where everyone is barely in contact at all while they live away from each other after marrying people they met in college and working in different cities.

I'm still in regular contact with all my (six) highschool friends. I see them multiple times a month to multiple times a week. In part because we have a monthly board game night.

Also we're all in our 30s but none of us is married or has kids. And all of us live at the most 40 mins away from any other.

Course we're also all guys, so even if we spend years apart, we can meet up and still have the same casual friendship and banter we've shared for almost 20 years now.

Honestly that's how you know if it's a real friend. If time and distance never alters your friendship.
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An entire show about the interpersonal relations of highschool kids who blow everything out of proportion, and a gimmick that barely does anything?

This would have been less insulting and more watchable if it had been done as a slice of life.

I kept expecting random bystanders to yell out "Shut the fuck up, no one cares" during the final confrontation, but to my amazement, none of them did.
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Wait so Red lost to Esdese?
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>>143356269
Suprisingly really cute
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>>143356240
Everyone's favorite alpha asshole deserves his own show.

If there was ever a season 2, I want it to be The Tenga Show
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any more?
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only show i was excited to watch on a week to week basis other than jojo

i don't care much for the autismo/autisma ship but it gives me tenga/chidori so im okay with it

I teared up at it because for some reason i can only tear up at fiction and im a cold autist to real life situations
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>>143373321
That'll do.
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>>143370345
Tenga and Chidori blushing at each other while Lesbo feeds Fatty a crepe.

Those were the only parts of the episode worth caring about.
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>>143373321
Great.
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i-...i liked it.
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>Best girl is the only girl to end without love

What the fuck did I even watch this show for
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>>143374009
Be happy. She should've never been involved in shippingshit in the first place.
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>there's this pain in my heart, release us for the kizuna
>you're not hooked up, that's your heart

The entire fucking 'research project' was about getting people to empathise, hahahaha. And they need to have invasive surgery enabling physiological/emotional torture to do so.

This fucking show. Sonozaki going all socialist dictator on us was fucking icing on the top.

Okada!

>>143372387
I honestly thought, the kizuna program was some elaborate attempt at world domination in the guise of 'world peace'. How fucking wrong I was.
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>>143355010
Isn't that basically NGE but without giant robots?
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Alright, here it is.
It's been fun charting for this show.
See you guys NEXT TRIGGER ANIMATION

Amazing visuals and direction. Fun character driven drama. Writing is a little eh?? but it's a fun show and nowhere near bad despite valid criticisms. I like the show so much ill be giving SUSHIO and Mai Yoyenima fanart from this show when i ask for their autographs at AX this weekend : ^ )

I dont have photoshop to compile this into that one template thing and add text but here's an imgur full of them http://imgur.com/a/FEDp7
keep in mind that ep6+7 and ep 8+9 are counted as one entry, unless you want to count the disappointed in nori-chan as one entry, whomever compiles it)
ITAI arc has already been posted earlier in this thread
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>>143361970
Except Tenga is not really an alpha.
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This was pretty boring, but had a nice OP.
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>>143360665
Why don't you stop trying to hate it and acting all retarded? The explanation can be given like that, nothing says that they didn't have the Kizna during the fall. As far as I saw they were still glowing when they hit the water.
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>>143361429
>/a/ hates it, japan hates it, everyone else already dropped it.
lmao, i recognize you, you've been posting this sentence for months now

don't you have something better to do, like killing yourself?
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I'm glad Sonozaki is now more emotional and receptive, should make raping her more appealing.
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>>143368141
Fucking slut
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>>143374443
Whatever helps you sleep.
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>>143361429
okada is trash kiznaiver is trash
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nico tenga chidori threesome let's go
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>>143374420
Based anon.
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>>143373321
Yuta and Maki
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Working on the chart but I'm missing a few images. I took the images for episode 1, 2 and 3 from another chart so they are lower quality. If anyone has the originals that would be great.
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>>143379980
Took 6+7 from >>143374420 and combined the other episodes.
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>>143376137
I never posted that until just recently
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Reasons why /a/ hates Kiznaiver:
>Trigger
It's Trigger. This single fact is enough to attract shitposters and haters
>Doesn't fit templates
It's not shonen, not harem, not SoL, not action. Not usual stuff anime fans got used to. The target audience is way more, lets say, sophisticated. It's not like this anime is the timeless classic, but it certainly demands from viewer more than your usual anime does.
>Fanservice
It has almost to no fanservice. In a world where its the sole reason for most neckbeards to watch anime, this fact makes them freak out. They are shocked, because they are in unfamiliar surroundings.
>"It starts slow, it's boring" they say
But then those people freak out when Nico "suddenly" likes Tenga. Thats because they never payed attention, because they need everything to be shoved in their faces. Thats how anime works these days. And so they expect something to happen in their face and then complain that nothing happens, when in fact everything happens under their noses.
>The format
It just so happened that 4chin mostly attracts people with low self asteam, social outcasts with no friends. Plus the excessively hostile atmosphere makes them numb to drama, makes them unable to empathize. Plus, it triggers PTSD because no friends ITAI!
>Okada writing meme.
Just your regular circlejerk. I never knew who Okada is up until episode 9. To be honest the writing falls flat in some places, but compare it to everything else we've got this season? It's a fucking Shakespear. Seriously, by anime standards the writing is very good.
>No excessive shipping.
As we all know, 75% of /a/ are shipfags who needs pairing and triangles and such in every fucking episode.
>Rare beast
It explores it's pretty common themes in a ways different from most of animes. Social experiment anime is a rare beast so neckbeards freak out, see par 2
TL;DR - it's too deviant from show templates people got used to, so they freak out and get mad.
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>>143381766
Machi I'm going to save you.
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>>143381766
So as much as /a/ deny it, they're THE lowest common denominator? Why am I not surprised in the slightest.
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>>143381766
>Just your regular circlejerk. I never knew who Okada is up until episode 9
Okada wrote a ton of shit anime that's the meme
>by anime standards the writing is very good.
You clearly haven't watch a lot of anime have you?

The anime was pure uninspired garbage there is nothing remember about it, the setting was boring and flat even kill la kill has a better setting and kill la kill's setting was almost a rip-off another manga called Gakuen Noise. the character's design was mediocre. I say the only two things that are good in kiznaiver was the Opening song and the art style.

>If I want teeny melodrama shit
I can it somewhere else
>If I want Social experiment
Again I can it somewhere else
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>>143382721
>You clearly haven't watch a lot of anime have you?
So you're implying that you watched a lot. Which makes almost everything he said _almost_ true, your taste was built based upon the usual anime conventions and what you're describing is the reason why you hate it, not why Kiznaiver is bad, if it really is.

I said almost because the post reeks of fanboyism but at least he's putting more thought to it.

>I can it somewhere else
>Again I can it somewhere else
And I'm sure you're going to dismiss it as well.
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>>143381766
But we like Trigger here.
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Aw shit, yuta gonna pound her now. Noice one for the best boy.
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>>143383728
Someone post the webm.
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>>143381766
You do realize the only reason people even gave half a fuck for the ending was because their shallow ships sailed, right?

But that's certainly commendable bait. Has enough blanketing generalizations that insults /a/ and at the same time praising the show without really giving it any praise at all. I rate it a 6, if only because you came on too strong. Subtlety is what you need, something which this show lacks.
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This was a good show.
>Episode 9 onwards happens
Then it became an awesome show.
>Rushed ending
And then it went down to being a good fun show.

I have no idea what so many fucking autists on this board thought they were getting into. Yeah, the show probably could have fixed a lot of its problems if it were 2 cour, but it wasn't and it did a perfectly fine job in accomplishing what it set out to do. Trigger made 2 great series this season which is a lot more than some of the other studios managed.
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>>143382905
Here let me try again
Kiznaiver has a lack of direction, The plot aimless and pointless in the end and the characters are so shallow(Design wise and personality wise).I would admit the concept was good but too bad they waste it on a Teenage drama anime, maybe if kiznaiver was Sentai it'll be better.Overall there is better anime out there like kino's journey or Kokoro Connect.
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>>143383910
Wow, what a big fucking surprise that an anime about having teenagers share their pain ended up being a teenage drama anime.

You are literally too fucking dumb for this simple anime.
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>>143383995
Can't take criticism?
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>>143384052
No, I can't take your asinine opinion. Try using less buzzwords.
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>>143374420
Oh fuck they will be at a autograph session or something?
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>>143384142
No you just can't take criticism like average triggerfag and i did use less "buzzwords" compare to my first post>>143382721
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>>143374420
Ayy make a thread if they do sign it.
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>>143384260
Oh, you expected me to take that seriously.
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>>143384299
is that a question or what?
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>>143384557
His question was that why you were expecting anything else other than teenage drama because that's literally what the plot and setting is about. There was nothing said in his defense that the anime had any sort of deep meaning or groundbreaking storytelling.
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>>143385770
The show presents itself as some exploration or human of human emotion and interaction for ~9 episodes, then the "big reveal" comes and it's literally how you would explain emotional connections to an autistic person in a show with only 2 autists.

When you're retarded joke charcter is the only one who actually understand what friendship is and you expect the viewer to not understand what friendship is, you have wriiting issues.
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this series is 2deep4you
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Crashing this bridge
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>>143383910
What don't you like about the character design? I thought that was one thing they did right.
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He was the realest nigga.
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Kacchon is Polnareff Confirmed
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This is cheesy as shit.
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>>143390700
I love okada cheesy shit.She wrote anything next season?
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>>143339089
I dropped iznaiver in episode 4 because the story was boring but i just saw the ending and like it. Kachon and the blue hair girl are dating now and Chidori is still suffering. perfect. oh and also yuta is now with the crazy bitch
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My thoughts exactly.
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The epilogue was really sweet, I liked it, but I'm just a sucker for happy endings.

Though they could work on some points, it was a pretty solid show.
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>>143390816
No she isn't because she's with her second choice fallback option alpha male not at all best fuckboy Tenga! Literally NOBODY wanted best at being a bitch girl Chidori to "win" Kacchonbowl!

:^)
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Yuta x Maki was pretty good, and even a bit predictable, but they should've developed both of their characters more.
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It was fucking garbage.

As expected.
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>>143391301
Yuta x Maki was complete trash seeing how suddenly Maki was "made" to like him back, there's zero development here, it goes from "I'm completely not interested in you whatever you do" to "I'm so totally into you so you can get fat now so other girls would not aim for you" anymore logic, which is insane and completely not right with what we learned about Maki character.

The pairing is so forced with the logic behind it, a guy is interested in a girl so a girl has no right to deny and has to like the guy back at the end at all costs; but no Chidori moved on, Yuta should do the same, but no, Maki was changed to like him cause she is a girl logic.
What a pile of double standards there...
That shitty meme that yuri girls should move on from their yuri phase going strongly in it.
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>>143391575
Yup, it was pretty shit on how shoehorned it was., but it's not like it was completely out of the dark. There was the scene with them in the summer vacation house, and the whole thing with her manga. And the whole thing was Maki moving on from her dead lover or something.
I would've expected them to become good friends by them end, not lovers though.
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I'm assuming this was the most popular episode.
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>>143391575
My only problem with the ending. That ship was stupid. At least Tenga and Chidori, as shit as they were, had development in their romance.
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>>143392106
>At least Tenga and Chidori, as shit as they were, had development in their romance.
Show me where. It's literally a sudden transition from "m-muh Kacchon" to "since Kacchon rejected me, I can't stop thinking about you Tenga!"
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>>143390615
>imgflip.com
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>>143393032
>Show me where
>Hey you're cute
>THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME HAPPY

And that's just one out of many. You dense son?
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>>143381766
>no excessive shipping
U wot m8?
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Worst show of the season
Worst ending of the season
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>>143381766
>Reasons why /a/ hates Kiznaiver:
There's no plural. There's only one reason.
Because it's shit.
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Nori-chan a cute
CUUUUTE
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This show earns a bad reputation when even its audience (edgy adolescents) starts pointing its flaws and forced bullshit.
In the end, when everything is said and done, Okada is just your average immature angtsy Japanese teen who forgot to grow up.
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>>143393994
Wow amazing development. Shit like this sure convinced me.
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Just marathoned this. It was an alright show until episode 9, but after that it went downhill.


Nico, Yuta and Honoka were nice but I wish the last two didn't end up dating and that Tenga actually thought about Nico more, she was far better than Chidori.
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>This looks like your average pretentious Okada trash but I'll keep watching it until the end to confirm it's garbage.
>It was garbage.
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>>143395686
>b-but LITERALLY nothing happened to justify that change
>shown a mere part of what happened
>b-but
Nice backpedaling, retard.
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>>143347171
For all we know she doesn't have parents
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>>143393994

Or she's just being uncomfortable around shirtless boys?
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>>143397867
Or you're just an autist.
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>>143397461
Oh, it's this faggot again. No, it isn't enough. Watch more series. Watch more movies. I'd recommend reading but it isn't a good idea since you're apparently a mentally handicapped mongoloid. There's no actual development, only some pitiful attempts.
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>>143397901
You forgot your ebin green-haired faggot reaction image.
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>>143361589
Kiznaiver audience and Trigger fanboys, ladies and gentlemen.
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Just finished the last two episodes, all in all it was fine, but Christ, why can't Okada write about something other than highschool kids FRIENDSHIP FEELINGS and in a such cliche overly melodramatic way? Not to mention how most of the characters "development" sucked

She seriously needs to think up something new or just stop.
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>>143400876
Well, there's always IBO.
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>>143381766
Bravo this bait legit made me laugh.
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>>143401179
>high school drama with mechas in space
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>>143383910
>sentai
You're saying kiznaiver would be better if it were power rangers?
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This was the most forced climax I've ever seen. Suddenly we are on a bridge and there is an explosion and those weird things in suits are everywhere and oh my god there's a traffic jam. I hope Trigger is embarrassed. I could hardly finish the episode.
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>>143362826
>beats up autist friend because he doesn't like the girl you like
>morals
I liked it better when Tenga was a bro
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