Is Future Trunks from the same universe (but different timeline) or is he from a different universe entirely?
I suspect he's from that other twin universe that is parallel to the main one of the series.
Same universe, different timeline.
>>143260415
toriyama and toei have confirmed that it is the same future trunks as the one from the android/cell saga
>>143260814
Fuck off back to ifunny.
>>143260415
It's already confirmed that he's the same FT as the Cell Saga one.
>>143260866
>>143260814
well DUH, but the question was if Future Trunks is actually from a different universe, albeit extraordinarily similar, or not.
They have went into a lot of detail with the explanation of the 13 universes, but they haven't yet fully explained time travel. Future Bulma's time machine is stronger than Whis's ability to turn back time.
>>143260528
Cell was from different timeline as well.
Is Goku Black also from another different timeline or universe? Or is he directly from FT timeline?
Seriously, how many alternative timelines are there in db? It's very confusing.
>>143260998
God fucking damnit everyfucking time you idiots can't understand the difference between Timeline and Universe.
Parallel universes have the same races but different characters, this means that there is no Vegeta or Goku in U6.
Different timeline means the same universe where things happend differently, so here the same characters appears.
Goddammit you people are fucking retarded.
I just wanted to talk about F Mai possibly returning.
>>143261635
While I would love that.
I highly doubt it.. aside from flashbacks
The Demigra/Goku Black connection seems either like a red herring or a huge possibility.
>>143261118
Goku Black is not Goku. It's someone else in disguise.
His fight against Black was pretty good.
I'm hyped for this arc again.
>>143260998
There is one extraordinarily similar universe and in that universe Saiyans are completely different, and the humans went extinct. In order to create a Trunks, you need a Vegeta and a Bulma to fuck. Trunks doesn't come from the twin universe.
>>143262719
But they put her in the intro. Not to mention her VA said she has important role in the arc and will appear in every episode
>>143262967
So demigra is canon? I never play the game. I thought it was not canon before. Should I play it anon?
>>143262967
Holy shit, Goku hit the gym pretty hard.
And i don't think they will go the Demigra route. It wouldn't make sense for people who hasn't played the games.
>>143260814
>free magic blue carpet ride
>>143263074
VA was probably just talking about loli Mai
>>143263118
goku (and pretty much all the other z-fighters) used to look like that in Z
in super everyone has noodle arms
>>143263118
They could always introduce him properly in the series. I mean, Goku and Piccolo being aliens weren't mentioned before but it was explained later on.
>>143263111
You mean Dragon Ball Heroes? Never played it. I heard Xenoverse was good though, but not the same quality as the tenkaichi or budokai games.
>>143263037
They actually spend some money on that fight. Also the choreography was fast and brutal.
>>143261444
>Goddammit you people are fucking retarded.
Fuck you man, this would be way easier to understand if Beerus and Whis weren't around. Are there multiple iterations of them based off of changes in timelines or do they have dominion over all of them?
>>143263118
True, but I wouldn't doubt the money making strategy of having stuff from the games connect to the current Dragon Ball show. Dragon Ball prints money at this point, so having crossovers to promote the games is a possibility especially since Xenoverse 2 is coming out. It's interesting that the earrings are deliberately drawn differently on Blackarrot and Demigra though.
>Accomplish our mission
>Even if that means throwing everything else AWAY
Why Future Trunks cant have nice things? Being this fucker is suffering, sadness and sorrow.
Is self-sacrifice to protect the present timeline the only thing left for him after seeing his mother and waifu being killed? Plus there is nothing else to protect in the future timeline.
So who are going to bet that Black Carrot is actually some unknown alien that taking Carrot form and not actually alternate Carrot from alternate timeline?
>>143263659
Why would he take Goku's form to begin with? I don't think it was implied that he was using it to fool anyone into thinking he's Goku or anything like that.
>>143263659
the new episode titles already talk about his Black's true identity
He's no Carrot
>>143263598
hurts
>>143263787
Well that is one thing clear out. Excited for that Trunks and Govan episode.
>>143263787
What would Trunks feels after knowing how this timeline Gohan become such a jobber? Post your predictions.
>>143263902
>mfw is just a remake of the old Future Trunks special.
sasuga toeii!!!
>>143263787
So they are going for another random shenanigans and just going to revive Future Mai in present timeline because
>muh strong love.
>>143263975
>>143263975
i actualy hope trunks call gohan out on this.
The gohan i knew would be disgusted with how you turned out.
>>143263975
>>143264270
>>143264304
>>143264180
I kinda doubt that.
Maybe it's just F Trunks having some flashbacks of F Mai or him seeing Mai and present Trunks together
Not that I would mind such a cheesy reason for a F Mai revival though
>>143264453
>My Mentor Can't Be This Childish
>>143264453
>One Handed Scarred Badass saiyan warrior
vs
>Disgusting weak clown and jobber
He'd kill him right away to put him out of his misery
>>143264650
>>143263074
It wasn't her VA who said that, it was some producer.
>>143264453
Fuck you all I still like modern Gohan even if he isn't as cool as his teenage self
>>143263598
Yes anon, he will die for our sins like fucking Cheesus Crist
>>143263787
>Expose Black's True Identity
>Black: My name is... Son Goku
>DUN DUN DUN!!!
>>143265117
>Beta spotted
>>143265117
>>143265139
I thought Goku was the Japanese Superman
>>143265560
Fuck you, Gohan
>>143263975
probably disappointed with him not being a badass.
On the other hand. Also happy for him that he has a wife and family of his own.Something F Trunks doesn't have. At least. Not anymore
>>143263111
Demigra as far as we know isn't canon. His creation didn't even have any participation from Toriyama, since he was a Xenoverse original, rather than a leftover from Dragonball Online like Towa and Mira.
>>143263994
Nah, then it'd say Future Gohan and Future Trunks, rather than Gohan and Future Trunks.
Goku is facing Black in the previous episode, but the saga would be really underwhelming if he won there, so he likely will lose, alongside Vegeta, and then Gohan likely will appear to try to help somehow.
>>143264842
>Frieza killed off almost all of the saiyans and we coulnd't have this
>>143260415
Confirmed titles for upcoming episodes:
>EP 50 - Son Goku vs Black
>EP 51 - Mai's Feelings, Transcending Time
>EP 52 - Gohan & Future Trunks
>EP 53 - Expose it! Black's True Identity
>>143263975
>Seeing his dead mentor living a happy and successful life with a family.
I expect he'll be pretty damn happy.
>>143264842
>>143266142
>we coulnd't have this
nope. Saiyan girls are U6 only now
>>143263021
Why would someone disguise as goku?
They just happen to use his form cause he hate saipan and want to mock it. Seriously you just put too much stock on Toriyama story telling.
It is kinda obvious that this is not actually Goku, alternate timeline or not. I really don't get those that seriously believe this is Goku.
>>143265951
I thought Toriyama said the editorial office suggested the idea for this arc. It's possible they want to make demigra canon to tie stuff into other dragon ball media. I don't know why else Goku Black would have matching color potaro earrings with Demigra.
>>143263787
So what's the deal with Black having a Potara earring? That can't be just an accident.
>>143265951
I'm really digging Goku's costume there. In fact, I'm mad they went back to the pre RoF costumes. On that note Krillin's BotG's costume + hair is his best look.
>>143266037
I don't think Black can win against Goku (and Vegeta). He will probably run away from his fight, to come again later on with more power. That would make more sense.
>>143267799
I can only guess that he is either looking for a fusion or that earring is used to control him somehow
Nah, Trunks is really from the same universe of Goku and the others, just a different timeline way into the future. Timelines that were never explained fully, even which is the original one isn't explained at all.
>>143263598
Probably his timeline is cursed for some reason, be some demon/alien or because he time travelled.
I get a feelling that TOEI is probably reusing that original idea for Battle of Gods, the one where Beerus was a virus with Black and that Green Kai with some kind of corruption by a demon or alien thing.
>Plus there is nothing else to protect in the future timeline.
Super Dragon Balls. I wouldn't be surprised that if in the end everyone gets back in that timeline including Goku and everyone who was killed by the androids and black
>>143268046
It'd be interesting to see the villain go through a training arc. I guess Freeiza sorta did off screen.
Where do you guys think Black comes from? Trunks timeline? Some different timeline? Or some other universe entirely?
Reminder that faggots trying to push Heroes/Xenoverse/GT shit are cancer and need to fuck off back to wherever they came from.
You already got denied with U6's arc, you are not getting Demigra, Towa, or whatever trash you are hoping for.
>these faggots thinking Trunks would be disappointed about Gohan being a jobber
He'd be glad as fuck to see him having a family in peace.
>>143268392
considering he suddenly appeared out of nowhere.and can apparently travel between timelines.
It can pretty much be anything
>>143264904
>it was some producer.
the produces talked about her having a big role. Not about the every episode appearing thing. Guess that was her VA talking
Older Pan when?
>>143266648
>>143263598
stop posting this
>>143264506
Translation?
>>143269627
Trunks time traveled an episode earlier.
>>143269868
Cute tail.
>>143268062
the many ways to see an embarrassed blushing Mai
>>143266648
So Goten can end up getting a Saiyan girlfriend and bring back the Saiyan race to U7.
>>143266648
>U6 Saiyan girls
>no tails
whats even the point anymore?
>>143270389
Don't worry about Ragdoll. Deku is going to end up with All for One as well, then he'll give her back her powers.
>>143268118
>I get a feelling that TOEI is probably reusing that original idea for Battle of Gods, the one where Beerus was a virus with Black and that Green Kai with some kind of corruption by a demon or alien thing.
That'd be interesting, but I thought the potaro earring was supposed to hint at him having some connection to one of the dead universe's kaioshin. Whis mentioning that Zeno destroyed six universes probably also has something to do with Black.
>>143266648
>Saiyan girls are U6 only now
I hope we will never get to see one, though.
Having female saiyans in the show would invite the wrong demography.
>>143270483
>Whis mentioning that Zeno destroyed six universes probably also has something to do with Black.
This.
Whis has been so far the Chekhov's Gun Seller of the show.
Anything he says might be important later on, especially if he said it on the same arc.
>>143268802
well she appeared in every episode til now :D
Trunks reaction when Vegeta mellowed out.
>>143270713
I don't know if it will be likely that Black will be a tragic character due to the six universes being destroyed, but it could be a motivating factor for him as well.
>>143270713
>>143271074
Still. Why go after Trunks because of that? Let alone destroy his world
>>143266592
>EP 52 - Gohan & Future Trunks
This pic >>143264453 is turning truth.
>>143271322
because he like to fuck shit up?
>>143271074
>>143270713
>>143270483
I wish this arc didn't copy things from whatever happened in Heroes. We could have an interesting arc:
>Whis mentions Zeno-sama already erased universes, one Kai is shown barely escaping from one of those deleted universes.
>In the future after Trunks took care of the threat Cell & co. were, humans did what they always do in post-apocalyptic settings: fight for power instead of helping each others
>Humans wage the ultimate war between themselves and they all die, even Trunks. This is also the reason Trunks why wasn't chosen to fight in the previous tournament. Time is likely to flow different at other universes so Vados comment on "they all died in a stupid war" makes sense.
>Next, Beerus revives Champa's Earth with the Super Dragon Balls. All the good guys revive and they cure Goku from his heart condition with happy times ahead, cue Mai and Trunks get together. U6 Bulma finds their revivial curious and investigates becoming aware of the Super Dragon Balls
>The Kai from the erased universe arrives at death throes into the 6th universe and meets Demigra. Demigra was chased and almost destroyed by U6 saiyans, so he takes this opportunity to seduce the Kai into a fusion in order to survive and get their respective revenges. With his new kai powers he searches for U6 saiyans but one particulary strongest one pops up, it is of course U6 Goku.
>He forrcefully fuses with a Potara earring with Goku and kills almost everyone.
>We fast forward to the episode when this arc starts. When Bulma said there was a way to come back she meant to travel to U7 via time travel and collect the Super Dragon Balls to fix their mess once Goku and the others win.
This would be good as it shows us a Kai falling from grace (OP images), Demigra is inserted to canon as the execs want, Beerus wish on the almighty Super Dragon Balls is shown to have consequences, Future Trunks is settled as a U6 denizen and possible fighter for the next universal tourney
>>143271322
I know a lot of people hate the idea of it being Goten empowered/corrupted by someone else, but I think it's possible. It would explain why he looks skinnier than Goku and why he is specifically in the Future Trunks timeline (Goten could have been conceived before Goku died).
I guess it could also explain why it says Goku Black's identity will be "exposed" because it isn't Goku.
>>143271535
Don't worry, Heroes will copy that shit back and make it better just like giving us Adult Gotenks.
>>143271354
wouldn't be the first time fan art becomes more or less a reality
>>143265453
And to think this is the same kid that destroyed Cell.
Pathetic.
>>143271656
He is a jobber now. The joke is on those Gohan fags that seems to think he will make a comeback
>>143270234
>>143271656
I miss Papa Cell. Although I''m glad they didn't bring him back in any way like they did with Buu and Frieza.
His dialogue in Xenoverse is fucking gold though. Especially if he's your master and you get the highest rank in a battle. He outright says he wants to hug you.
>>143272031
What is papa Cell?
>>143271740
>>143272209
It's what he refers to himself when mocking Vegeta in Xenoverse. It's the first line of dialogue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpEqcvvIgaE
>>143262967
They really missed the chance to complement Time Breaker Bardock with King Vegeta.
Vegeta again? Come on.
What are the chances that Whis will become a villain? He seems to be hiding something from everyone, even Beerus.
>>143272725
You think he is evil? What make you think that?
>>143272725
I don't think he's a villain, but I'm really eager to know his backstory. I wonder if he has other siblings in the other universes, or if it's just him and Vados since U6 and U7 are "siblings" as well.
>>143272725
Perhaps, if Whis/Vados is trying to claim Omni King's position.
>>143272867
>we couldn't get Vados
what the fuck nigga this is bullshit
>>143272725
>>143272867
well they do have white hair
befor zeno was introduced i thought maybe
now i thinktowards the final arc of dbs, vegeta or goku maybe both end up doing something absolutely unacceptable and whis turns on them(if he ends up the "villian") so they have to team up to stop him from just wipibg everybody out or something
remember when they were talking with beerus on the boat with whis and beerus explained that thry simpky can't comprehend matters concerning the gods, and beerus even went on to say how it excites him to think if the universe was to just blow up? sonethibg about that is very foreshadowing to me, pic related, same episode
>>143273051
What are you talking about?
>>143272725
Nah, he is lawful neutral with a foodie heart
>>143273068
I think they have noticed that being with Goku and friends keep them occupied with something interesting to do as shown when Trunks arrived they looked a little bit happy to poke their noses in that incident. If anything is most dreadful to godly beings is being bored plus they provide them with delicious foods. I believe they were just messing with Bulma's head, no evil being would waste their free unrestrained wish like that
>>143266592
>EP 51 - Mai's Feelings, Transcending Time
I can't wait for this episode.
>>143273591
Could they wished to super dragon to kill Zeno and replaces his position? Does that mean super dragon is more powerful than Zeno?
I want Goku to pound my boypussy.
>>143273702
Zuno said that when the Super Dragon Balls are gathered they just need for that person to appear, that person is probably Zeno as he must approve whatever wish is about to be made. This is reinforced by the wish being asked in god language and the reason he appeared at the tournament, besides his intent to scold the brothers
>>143273591
but what is going to happen if goku or vegeta can ever actually beat beerus or champa? they play kiddy games with goku and co. sure but it is always a constant that being the god of destruction is a title that cannot be trifled with. everytime during the series anything got serious it was because there was an attempt to overrule the god of destruction, which is not to be done. just a few episodes ago all that food and friends sol stuff was about to be tossed to the side after champa killed the U6 tournament squad and beerus said he'd kill goku if he tried to stop it, after subtlely hinting that he overheard their(goku/hit) conversation about fighting again and getting strong enough to beat them(champa/beerus)
it's like a fake friendship to reach mutual goals, but beerus and whis end goal is still a mystery, regardless if they have a real interest in the trunks shenanigans
>>143274104
i'd only even say beerus and whis have interest in the trunks time travel stuff because it falls in their jurisdiction, U7
>>143274104
Toriyama himself said in an interview with Toyotaro that Goku and Vegeta are not going to ever overcome Beerus. Sure the god of destruction is a threat but life is filled with those, you just cope with it and fill the dragon more sacrifices to mantain the status quo another day
>>143274043
I don't recalled zeno said that at all?
>>143266592
>>143273684
It will be interesting to see where they'll go with that.
The fact we might even see Mai in a episode title is still so weird. In a good way
>>143274358
but he didn't say vegito/gogeta wouldn'tor black
>>143274358
*feed the dragon
>>143274391
Zuno the all knowing not Zeno and no, he didn't spoke about the wish but makes sense that he bothered to appear in person
>>143274442
No fusions this round, they already talked about doing their battles individually
>>143274509
>headcanon
>>143274457
Aaa Zuno, my bad.
>>143274457
>>143274627
I just rewatched that episode. Zuno also didn't said anything like that at all.
>>143274575
What are you talking about? Did you skip the end of Freiza's fight? Fusions are not happening if you paid attention, screencap this if you want
>>143274835
i watched the whole series and original movies since day 1
post proof of how it wont ever happen. hardmode: time travel screencaps of future unreleased episodes acceptable only
Since Toriyama is throwing power level horseshit straight out the window can we assume that vanilla frieza, cell, and buu are actually all pretty similar in strength?
>>143275688
vanilla cell as in no 18 or 17 absorbed or vanilla as in no ibstant transmission death then rebirth cell? vanilla buu(evil kid buu) is atleast ss3 in terms of ki power, vanilka freeza, as in no training but 100% max freeza is just below ss1
how hype are you for tomorrow?
>>143276075
Normal hype. The animation still looks plain and goku fighting Trunks is fanservice but whatever
>>143276183
>plain
literally one quick shot at the very very last second looked average
>>143276075
a bit average about the next two episodes for now.
Looking forward more to the Mai and Gohan episodes
The are going to be another live watch together? Are moon retarded anons also join that? Or that is exclusive to moon capable anons?
>>143276368
i wonder if dedmai got to keep her body in otherworld
heroes are suppose to be able to and she technically was pretty heroic
I haven't watch any Super yet, but from spoiler floating here and there apparently Mai is a good person? I thought she is Pilaf underling and evil just like Pilaf.
>>143276521
Caling the Pilaf gang evil is.. kinda a stretch. Especially compared to the other villains.
Also. future Mai was with Trunks and trying to help and support him
>>143276521
Did they ever killed anyone? They are just goofy villains and besides if Vegeta, Buu, Piccolo and other former bad guys are allowed to have new start why not them too?
>>143276420
>i wonder if dedmai got to keep her body in otherworld
Would she even have a use for it? It's not like she'll start training at king kai's place
>>143276974
They have? I don't know I don't really remember. Of course they are allowed a fresh start in DB just like everyone else. I am just base it on my last memory of them being evil that want to kill Goku.
>>143264650
>One Handed Scarred Badass saiyan warrior
>trained entire life & not even half Android 17's power
>still looks like Yamcha
>>143277077
Considering they are kids now and the sheer power difference between DB and Super..
They wouldn't be able to be a threat. Even if they wanted to.
>>143276521
They are mostly mentally ill. Seriously, they are more of a danger to themselves than to others.
>>143277637
Weren't they are the one that release Piccolo to destroy the earth?
>>143275688
No. Chair Freeza is now stronger than the other two excluding Super Buu's absorptions. He might be too, but the only measure for comparison is Gohan.
Future Trunks is garbage,I'm glad his daddy didn't love him.
>>143268802
that major role, could be taken as singular which could mean she is done. Doubtful, but possible.
>>143264572
or black goku brings her with him and does a hostage thing
>>143270424
becomes the supreme being of all
>>143264270
>>143264453
>>143264650
>>143265398
Kill yourselves, edgyfags. Saiyaman is great.
>>143278779
Kinda doubt that will would happen..
Also. That's already assuming she is alive
>>143276075
Scared, I'm afraid Toei can kill this arc with their usual bullshit (bad writing + bad animation).
>>143278748
>could be taken as singular
the thing with that is.. it wasn't much of a major role. It's not like they even dedicated the entire episode 47 to her hanging out with Trunks or something
>>143268802
>Mai in a mayor role
Tell that to Mai snapped neck
>>143279866
>yfw Future Mai was pregnant
>>143280770
>Gohan wanted to train because he failed to protect his wife and child.
>F Trunks realizes he failed in the exact same thing.
>That's why the Mai episode is before the Gohan one. To reveal what their relationship and plans were before Black messed everything up.
If that would happen.. Now that would be extra cruel to F Trunks
teen Pan in any Super Saiyan forms when?
Golden ape and SSJ4 when?
>>143281127
that would kill me in the heart desu
>>143281127
Gohan and F Trunks will become training partners, right?R-right?
>>143281270
Believe, brother
>>143281353
I don't know if I can.
>>143274436
Strangely reminds me of Mio every time I see her
>>143281127
DELETE THIS
>>143279506
You do know where to find the original source of that pic? I refuse to believe that comes from facebook.
>>143260415
Trunks is from Universe 7.1 The main universe is actually 7.4
>>143267351
It's Goten.
>>143281462
>Mio
>Mai
Pottery.
>>143281500
I just found it on twitter.
See filename
>>143270713
>Chekhov's Gun
Explain. If you don't mind, explain Occam's razor as well.
>>143264572
What if (Don't kill me) we discover that Goten fell for Mia first (Yes I know not born in this timeline even if they had the three years of peace) And then he was kill by the androids... but saved by Kia's at the last second. He watched from the other realm as first Mia left him for Trunks, then Chichi was killed by the androids and finally watching his brother killed by the androids. Blaming Trunks he makes a deal with the Maikioshin and becomes SS Demon Returns to earth and starts to attack.
>>143280770
>>143281127
>>143281227
>>143281485
I guess that's why Black didn't start with the whole " last of the saiyan race " shit talking until after he killed Mai
>>143280770
>>143281127
/a/ was right about the PTSD and trying to punch goku
But holy shit please not make this right.
>>143281270
Makes sense to me. Time chamber for 3 years of straight training could probably get them both to ssj2, then they fuse. Maybe they can reach ssgod while fused like with ssj3 and gotenks.
What if the person Goku Black fused with, was another Goku from another timeline? What if Goku Black is some guy that travels through time to keep fusing fusing with himself?
>>143281462
not the first time i heard that
>>143281808
Ehh, top tier Buu Saga characters unfortunately can't touch anyone god level. They need to reach ssgod or there'll be no point in them training.
>>143281758
>>143281756
>>143281485
It's going to happen.
Are there any consistent translated scans of DBZ from cell-saga forward? I had been reading all the way from the start, but had to jump boat to kai once it started getting fucky.
>>143281127
not sure about f trunks being a family man but I see hand holding becoming a plot point that he eventually loses an arm
>>143265560
>Be hyped about this
>Realise a few episodes later that we will never see this be realised
>Gohan will forever remain a limp dicked wimp
Such a shame...
>>143265453
>Against Beerus
>Against Frieza that reached God Level in 4 months
>Against Beerus again
>Against Frieza again
Jizz men you sure showed all the Gohanfags
>>143282532
If only buu didn't suck away his mystic powers. Would a Mystic Gohan be God Goku level?
>>143282567
Literally got slapped by an unconscious Buu and is out of commission. Fuck off with that excuse.
>>143282572
If he kept training? Probably not. In the BoG movie (And IIRC in Super aswell) SSJ3 goku was maybe 10% of Beerus' power, and even that's a generous estimate.
Mystic Gohan during the Buu Arc was stronger than SSJ3 Goku.
Gohan isint like Goku, he doesnt want to train all the time. So I'm going to say that... No. Mystic Gohan wouldnt have been anywhere -near- SSG Goku during BoG, and even less so with SSB Goku, or even Vegeta for that matter.
If they want to make Gohan a serious fighter again, they need to give him a God boost aswell. Train under Whis, or do what Goku did originally after Shenlong told what the SSG is.
>>143272725
Well here goes my stupid theory. Obviously God of Destruction are assigned but they aren't strong like that . The power is given to them in BoG when Beerus and Goku are fightalking about how Goku doesnt feel good about getting that much power with help and Beerus is like "that'll be your downfall" or something along that idea. I just assumed from that on that Beerus was given the power of a God probably by Zeno. Whis is training Goku and Vegeta because they are a good replacement if shit goes south (and probably will) and when none of them accept the Power of the gods something bad it's happening
>>143280770
>>143281127
Makes you look at the scene with the cat a bit different too. Not to mention Mai suddenly getting hungry
>>143281758
>But holy shit please not make this right.
Yeah. You would think that would just be too cruel to Trunks. Yet. At this point. Who knows?
>>143282993
>Goku
>As the God of Destruction
Yeah no. Vegeta maybe, but no fucking way is Goku going to replace Beerus. He was already offered the role of the Guardian by Kami at the very end of Dragonball. and he refused it.
>>143282572
Buy sucked away Gohan's mystic form?
>>143283025
Anon, it's cruel but look how they treat Gohan and the others. It's gonna happen. They may have to restrain Trunks from suicide once it's all over.
>>143283160
I need to know this, too.
>>143283160
Yeah Buu erases Kia's powers. That is where gohan's power up went.
>>143283269
SO Gohan needs to tap into his anger again to unlock his power?
>>143283269
Eh...? Where'd you get that from? And so what? Elder Kai's still around... Just do the same Unlock Ability thing again.
>>143283310
Veggeto defussing inside Buu. And I don't know why he didn't recharge. Should have honestly.
Is GT worth watching, or should Super be seen as the direct continuation?
why you guys keep moaning about future Mai being dead?
>>143283364
Ahh. Well that makes sense. Still. I can think about a reason why Gohan didnt "Recharge" that is because he simply isint a fighter. Goku was alive again, and rather strong. So Gohan just focused on dicking Videl and settling down.
>>143283446
You wont miss much if you skip GT in all fairness. The Baby saga, and the Shadow Dragons are quite cool but beyond that it's very weak.
>>143283478
Alright thanks for the tip.
>>143283446
The new redux on Dragon Ball series has made GT inane. Basically, its a different universe now.
Which pisses me off
>>143260415
Isn't this story way too dark and sad for a kids show?
>>143283645
as long as they end it with a happy note and some line about Hope , then it will be fine.
>>143283788
I would like it to end with Goku and trunks arriving seconds before Bulma's death, saving her and Mia and taking them back to main timeline, letting Black have the destroyed future.
>>143283645
Is meant for little boys they can handle it.
>>143283645
Kids love dark shit
Why can't they give Piccolo a power up?
Super Namekian or some shit.
>>143283446
GT is more boring than Super. It is consistently more on model and has consistently less QUALITY (not by much, but it does), but it's also consistently more of a chore to watch. You don't get some hilariously bad moments like Episode 5 of Super, you get boringly bad episodes like Super 17. You don't get hype as fuck battles like Goku vs. Beerus or Goku vs. Hit, you get kinda okay battles against Baby or Omega Shenron. But most importantly, you don't get ANY good filler or comedy in GT, you get bland and dull rehash episodes of Dragon Ball. Rehash episodes so bad even the dub apparently couldn't help but call the series out on it.
GT never hits as low as Super.
It also never hits anywhere as close to as high as Super.
It's full of ideas that sound great on paper but are executed poorly, and by the time you're done watching it, you'll not really want to watch it again.
Unless this kind of thing is your fetish.
>>143284159
You do get plenty of ass shots from Pan, though.
>>143283269
It doesn't.
Gohan could still access it in Battle of Gods.
>>143283310
>>143283478
The ability doesn't need a "recharge." It's a transformation. It is literally described as being accessed the same as Super Saiyan. And it isn't Gohan's full potential; it's BEYOND his potential. That's why the ritual took so long. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than he would be as a Super Saiyan 3, but has none of the Super Saiyan body strain. Gohan merely couldn't access it because he stopped working outor because Pan stole it.
>>143283364
Vegito literally got defused by poo gas. Not magic. This is the actual explanation to it. "Bad air" from Buu's stomach.
Poo gas.
>>143284159
Tournament was pretty good desu
>>143284313
>Gohan could still access it in Battle of Gods.
Then why try to go Super Sayian...
>Vegito literally got defused by poo gas. Not magic. This is the actual explanation to it. "Bad air" from Buu's stomach.
Thinking Gohan wouldn't get gassed.
>>143284389
It doesn't block out Super Saiyan. It's just a different transformation. Goku could still use the Kaioken, but Super Saiyan was more efficient. Gohan could still go Super Saiyan, but his Ultimate power up was more efficient. It's accessed the same way, powering up to his strongest state, but doesn't have the drawbacks.
Gohan being poo gassed or not doesn't make him unable to use his Ultimate state. The poo gas is what defused Vegito.
>>143283245
Just imagining F Trunks completely breaking like that...
>>143272031
Under the right conditions, all the time travel shit we may be getting from this recent arc could bring back Cell.
>>143284759
CRIMSON CELL, MOTHERFUCKERS
>>143284859
>so perfect he became a Super Cell God
sasuga
>>143284859
Wasn't Cell has some saiyan gene? He imitated the zenkai boost right?
Nigga could call the blood of a ssgod if he wnats to
>>143285104
Also has Freeiza cells so SSGSSB Golden 5th form Cell... with Addenoal.
>>143285104
>>143285159
That's why he's Crimson Cell. He's God tier and Bling mode, all packed into one beautiful red package of perfection.inb4 madara copypasta
>>143284859
fake
>>143285235
Is there anyone that could beat Cell? And I don't mean Perfect Cell, but Super Golden God Perfect Mystic Cell with every single fighter's DNA, allowing him to perform the Neo Spirit Kikoho, the Consecutive Double Duo Death Saucer, the God Namekian Final Flash, the 100% Golden Flaming Demon Shocking Revenge Death Ball Final, and the 100x God Instant Concentrated Flame Limit Break Jet Triple Super Dragon Earth-Destroying Angry Big Bang Justice Kaio-ken Electric Solar Original Ultimate Majin Chocolate True Family Max-Power Final Flying Continuous Kamehameha.
>>143263975
He'd be happy for him. The Gohan of his time lost an arm and was brutally murdered. Trunks isn't an edgy teen. The idea of a friend being a happily married successful scholar with a newborn daughter would sit well with most people. I don't get why people have trouble understanding this.
>>143263975
>Implying Trunks cares about retarded buzzwords from butthurt faggots
>>143284859
Cell potentially should be broken as shit with Freezia's cells and with saiyan cells he should be able to unlock some form of super saiyan. Of course, it'd be retarded to bring back 2 dead villains in one series but I wouldn't be surprised at this point. Then again, it's based Cell.
>>143287154
cell will copy beerus,whis and zeno genes and became the last boss
>thinking that the DBS manga is canon
>>143288592
people think the manga is canon
I'm surprised nobody points out that they are somehow fighting way above SSG level yet don't destroy the universe more often.
Alright Goku learned that technique, did everyone else too? Did Vegeta? Did Hit? Will Black know it as well?
>>143289744
Are you dumb?
>>143289783
Are you? Rhetoric question, don't bother answering.
That was for his energy attacks, not his punches. Not to mention even then, I didn't even mention Beerus. They fought Frieza, Hit, and will now fight Black at SSB level which is above SSG. Again, even if Goku knows how to, does Vegeta?
>>143289824
>Yes
Ok then.
>>143288592
>>143288803
of course it's the canon
the author is toriyama's bud and they are always in communication
not to mention the fact that SSB Kaioken makes no sense and Hit improving on a whim is retarded (also frost not being evil). The anime is very typical Toei
the manga rightly shows vegeta and goku are the same and circumstance and tactics prevailed, along with Hit not being overpowered as you would expect
>>143291008
>Hit improving on a whim is retarded (also frost not being evil).
I don't see why both are retarded. Do you always improve on purpose and consciously? Not always, but you also can and if you had his abilities and talent it should be possible. It's not Monaka we're speaking about. Plus why should a whole race be evil? Anime almost always put good people in a group of villains, why should it be different? What are you, racist?
I still don't get why future mai exists as she does. Unless it's her when she's in her 50s or something and Trunks was just dealing with most of the population being dead
rip future shu and pilaf though
>>143291231
>I still don't get why future mai exists as she does.
easy, the pilaf gang made their wish before picollo died.
>>143291288
>the pilaf gang made their wish before picollo died.
Piccolo died when trunks as a baby, unless they somehow got turned into toddlers there's no way for future mai to have grown up with future trunks
>>143262967
Holy fucking shit. That Goku outfit looks dope as fuck. Wish he had that instead of the Whis symbol outfit. Heroes has a lot of good stuff in it.
Is manga cannoner than anime or otherwise way around?
>>143262967
Goddamn what's Goku's routine?
>>143266592
>have to wait 2 weeks to get disappointed about Gohan and Future Trunks not fusing
Fuck.
>>143291490
They probably got turned into 4 years old or so. Also you should take into account that Future Trunks is a few years older than his chronological age, due to the time he spent inside the time chamber.
>>143262719
Well one of the episodes is called "Mai's Feelings, Transcending Time".
I'm guessing she'll be alive by the end of it.
>>143276521
They started off as goofy villains who wanted power via the Dragon Balls, but Mai was actually a pretty serious henchwoman at first. As they kept getting their plans foiled they became more and more of a running joke and ended up just wanting revenge against Goku for inadvertently ruining their lives. Once they wished for youth they started thinking like children and became far more innocent yet still hold a grudge against Goku.
>>143271535
>trunks died
how the fuck could trunks die when he could glass the planet?
>>143276974
They never killed anyone directly. Mai and shu just followed pilaf's orders and Pilaf had manlet powerhunger syndrome
The real odd thing is that he somehow knew what the dragonballs were and actively wanted them
>>143291784
>and became far more innocent
They were always innocent
>>143277052
But what if she does?
>>143291863
How did Bulma know what the Dragon Balls were? How did she know how to build a radar to find them?
>>143291901
Why is Mai so best girl?
