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Why don't you like me /a/ ? I'm just trying to save
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Why don't you like me /a/ ?
I'm just trying to save human race from turning into kabane
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>>143203912
Biba is such a god tier villian, he was not created for the audience to empahtize with him and thats exactly what happened. His defeat will be glorious.
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>>143203969
>God tier
>"I'm evil because muh daddy issues even though my daddy issues stem from the fact that I was evil to begin with"
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From now on... You will all refer to me by the name... Betty
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>>143203969
Biba took a popular show and ran it into the gutter.
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>>143204570

the zombie legion-mass started it but biba didn't help
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>>143204733
This time we didn't have many spoiler pics, maybe they don't want to relieve too many things for the episode.
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>>143204733
If you consider that Mumei did pretty much everything wrong up to this point, she may be better off as an emotionless doll
This way she has at least some resemblance of competence
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>>143203912
KISAMA
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>>143205053
>she may be better off as an emotionless doll
>This way she has at least some resemblance of competence
Careful with that edge anon
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>>143203969
Biba doesn't have a character. He's just a random assortment of bad villain cliches.
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>>143203912
>that dress
Is he going to get Saki's treatment?
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>>143205152

what edge? she's screwed up a bunch already
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>>143205152
> They tell her to kill and so she does
> People tell her to do things and instead she fucks up everything, either putting innocent people in danger or downright causing their death
I'm sorry anon, but I don't think that edge is a valid argument in this particular case
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>>143204766
Best boy and best girl in front.
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>>143204973
Is it bad that I don't hate him?
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>>143204766
Did Steampunk-Koito's arms shrink?
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>>143205269
what am I looking at
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>>143206133
Japanese showing you their expertise on torture.
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Because you ran Final Fantasy into the ground with your Mary Sue bullshit.
Plus you should have /ss/ with Hope.
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>>143204766
Wow they are all going to die, aren't they?
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>>143205846
Nah: he's done nothing particularly aggravating so far.
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>>143206133
Vulvarape. One of the girls for captured, stuffed into a sack, and fed through a tube. Also got impaled with a sword on live television at some point.
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>>143203912
>using the kabeneri are a problem for the human races as an excuse to raise an army to fight"kabeneri",but really it just a coupe d'etait ,because my daddy did not send supplies and exiled me so the fag would not kill me. boy will i show my dad after i kill him!
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>>143206376
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>>143206159
>>143206376
>>143206420
glorious nippon showing good tastes
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>>143206325
He ruined the show
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>>143205269
people actually liked saki unlike biba

>it turns out biba daddy issue are not the real issue
>the real issue is that he wont come out the closet and is projecting his frustration
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>>143203969
His survival of the fittest mindset is what really makes me like him
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>>143203912
Watching the Preview, Is Ikoma getting CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT?
But who the fuck is cutting his hair? Kurusu?
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>>143206975
>Ikoma
Was that really him?
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>>143206975
Is there another preview? Because the one we had last week only showed ikoma in the beach, hiding from something.
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>>143206316
I wouldn't be surprised. The second half of Okouchi shows always seem dead set on making the protagonist (and the audience) as miserable as possible. We've already had the nonsensical power-downs (Ikoma can't fight for shit, gun doesn't even dent door). You'd think I'd be used to this from all the other series where he pulls this exact same shit. Valvraves went from army crushing super-robots in S1 to barely functional misery machines in S2. Haruto went from a wet blanket to a wetter blanket. And the show went from kind of fun in a dumb way to utterly, miserably unfun in a dumb way. It's the same shit again and again, and yet I'm still watching. Fuck me and my shit taste.
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>>143207729
How come this fucker still gets work?
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I hate Biba but I also hate Mumei. What a waste of character.
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>>143203912
>I'm just trying to save human race from turning into kabane
>by killing roughly the same number of people as his father
You aren't a human nuke, Biba. Only nukes can do that.
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>>143207874
Going by the sales threads, because people actually buy his shit. And to be fair, the first half of his shows tend to be at least watchable, and often kind of fun. The problem is it's always the second half that turns to miserable dogshit.
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>>143208107
Second part of GC was better.
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>>143208160
Shuhrer? Or Illuminati confirmed? Becuase Shuhrer wasn't especially bad, it just felt like a completely unrelated show compared to the Revolution with idols part in the beginning. Illuminati was where things went full bullshit.
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>>143208367
Illuminati was a mess as their plan made little to no sense, but I mean the entertainment value. Every week had a twist that made you hyped for the next episode, even if it was pure bullshit.
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>>143203912
He's such a shitty villain that even Miyano can't save him.
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>>143206420
GIS gives me Valvrave the Liberator. Is this any good or is it also a garbage series?
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>>143206462

>>143204973 ruined the show? That's news to me.
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>>143206462
You mean Biba?
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>>143209510
>VVV aired 3 years ago
>there are people on /a/ that weren't around back then
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>>143209708
Don't watch mech shows that often. Only slightly interested in this one because of the gif posted. Is it any good?
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>>143204032
That's not how things went, anon.
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>>143207729
That's mostly bullshit you're spewing forth. Okouchi has already made Ikoma miserable and there are only two episodes left. Ikoma has never been too strong in general, so that's not a power down. The surprise, and not much of one, was Biba showing up and ruining everything. Valvrave was quite different in how things went down, so that's not a good comparison and you're talking about stuff that happened with far more episodes left. So nope, your gross speculation about the rest of the cast suddenly dying, which didn't even happen in his previous shows if you were actually honest, doesn't seem likely to occur her. Nope, it's not the same thing. Fuck you and your shit way of thinking though.
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>>143208107
>always
>based on only one and a half examples.
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>>143207729
It's like you didn't notice the enemies got tech upgrades in S2 of VVV
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>>143207130
It's kind of obvious that Ikoma will recover and start doing stuff, even if he doesn't accomplish much before the finale.
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>>143209850
It's a trainwreck. It's not as fun if you didn't watch it with /a/.

Give it a watch, regardless.
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>>143208160
GC wasn't even exclusively or primarily his show, strictly speaking. But nah, it went worse.
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>>143210117
I think it's still dumb fun all the way. Ending was just anti-climatic after a kind of boring second season.
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>>143210117
>Independent Nation
Wait was this that shitty show where a group of highschoolers establish their school/space colony as their own country?
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>>143203912
I like him as much as all the other characters in this shit show.
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>>143209510
It's shit but it's the best.
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Why do you think she's in the water. Does she think she is a frog.
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>>143210104
At this point i just want a happy ending for Ikoma and his friends.

Mumei can rot in hell for all i care.
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>>143210388
She got thrown there to drown.
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>>143210549
>Mumei can rot in hell for all i care.

You're worse than Biba
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>>143210689
She fucked up a lot and she's the reason they became prisoners.
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>>143210628
It's not her fault she was manipulated and brainwashed into being Biba's puppet.
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>>143210003
Honestly, I don't really see a bloodbath. I was more just looking for an excuse to vent about how frustrating every recent series I've seen with Okouchi as the head writer has been. They all get to a point where it's no longer fun, and you're barely able to keep watching; you're dragged along by cliffhangers and the false hope that things might get better. Going by the ending of VVV and GC, they won't. Which is a pity, because I really like Ikoma's VA, and he's been a pretty solid lead character up until Biba's appearance. I'm STILL hoping that things will turn around and the next 2 episodes will give things a satisfying conclusion, but I'm pretty sure at this point that that's pretty unlikely.

>>143210040
>VVV
>GC
>habanero
These are his major series composition credits in the last 5 years, and they all suffer from the same problem; a 180 at about the halfway point that drastically changes the tone of the series.

>>143210076
True, but it's done in a very jarring way. Gundam 00 had major tech boosts in a few points, and it more or less still felt like the same series. In VVV the tech boost happens at the same time the characters basically lose any ability to have their desicions affect the plot, and spend the rest of the series being dragged from plot point to plot point, and each plot point makes them more and more miserable.
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>>143203912
Anyone hyped for the next episode? It airs in one hour and nobody is hyping it here, what the fuck.

I hate biba, but I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE LAST TWO EPISODES WILL REDEEM THE SHOW.

They have to, for fucks sake.
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>>143211274
I'm hyped enough but I don't know if we're using this thread for the live watch.
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>>143210948
They should start hiring okouchi for the first episodes and fire him mid-season. Then get someone who knows how to end a show.
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>>143211274
>I STILL BELIEVE THAT THE LAST TWO EPISODES WILL REDEEM THE SHOW
Wait is this not the last episode? Fucking hell.
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>>143211379
The show was not broadcast for a week because of the earthquake, remember?
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>>143211379
Two more to go, anon.

Two episodes should be enough to give a decent closure if they are fast paced.

Well, if they want to give it a decent closure.
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>>143211602
>Well, if they want to give it a decent closure.

Prepare for S2 announcement.
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>>143211630
>i want to get off mr biba's wild ride.
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>>143211785
You know you love it.
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>>143211630
A season 2 airing in 2018? Nobody will even remember this show by then.
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>>143211630
>S2

Please no.
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>>143211630
Only if Biba dies and they write him off as some insane fuck instead of trying to get us to pity him would I accept this.
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>>143203969
>Biba is such a god tier villian

Only if his idea of destroying strongholds has some legitimacy to it, and is somehow connected to getting back at his father. If it's all a power-grab and nothing more, then he is only slight better than average.
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>>143211630
man, all I wanted was snk 2

but somehow WIT thought it was a good idea to put us through this shit instead

now they'll barely have enough time to work on it and it probably won't come out before 2017
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>>143211274
>Anyone hyped for the next episode?
I'm hyped. I don't understand why this anime gets so much hate
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>>143212345
Snk is shit, made for 14 year old boys and fujoshi
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>>143212345
Kabaneri was much bettet than snk until they introduced biba. It's still better, even if not by that much
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>>143212349
Probably because right now you have a mediocre villain who chews up screentime. A secondary cast who is uninteresting. And an MC who only knows how to keep things dialed up to 11 with no chill.

I don't hate it but it's definitely a series that got worse the more it went on.
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this guy is like reverse Madara in terms of his relation to show quality
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>>143212599
More like obito
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>>143210948
Except Okouchi wasn't the head writer of GC.
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5 mins
get in here niggas
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>>143213043
Fuck FujiTV isn't loading
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>>143213043
Will i understand anything without subs?
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>>143213094
>fujiTV
get in neet negro
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>>143213140
Fatguy is the new habanero?
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>>143212490
I completely disagree, but to each their own I suppose.
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>>143213127
neet does nothing here
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>>143213255
cd1212
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>>143212413
>implying kabaneri being made for 14 year old boys and waifufags is any better
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>>143213202
you could almost do a yamcha edit
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YOU KISAMA.
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>>143213345
Laser Mumei soon?
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what's worse this or mayoiga?
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KISAMA
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muh
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>>143213345
Of fucking course.
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>>143213345
Wrong hole!
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>>143213345
Sayonara Mumei
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>>143213533
Kurusu the Barbarian!
Kurusu Snow!
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dem ayames
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>>143213489
why is he so hot
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KISAMA
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Holy shit Biba made his daddy a kabane.
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>>143213787
>Ayame's hips
Fertility goddess.
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>>143213787
Ayame looking fine over there
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our boy kurusu
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CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
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>>143213944
I'm glad he didn't remain a faget
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>>143213928
Dem shining boobs.
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gatling arm
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>>143213865
How many times are they going to do the fucking stillshot shit
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Mumei did nothing wrong.
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Do you rike his character development?
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RIP Mumei
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>>143214019
Looking very Mega Man, Ikoma
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He's so handsome.
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>>143214066
What.
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>>143214066
Tony Stark is HABANEROMAN!!!
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>>143214111
Oh, so they're going for the Guilty Crown-esque "save the princess" ending after all
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POWER UP
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KISAMA IS THIS YOUR FINAL FORM?
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>>143203969
Cause you know, understanding the motives of either side through empathy is stupid
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>>143214066
Lookin' pretty fucking metal there, Ikoma.
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So how is Biba going to die? Angry that his childish tantrum was stoped? Or are they going to make him seem like the the cool and collected type upon death because "in the end i guess i was wrong".
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8sjNj35A04
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>>143213345
Dropped
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>>143213391
Kiznaiver
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Holy Mumei
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>>143214279
>Final Episode: Koutetsujou
Bravo, Okouchi.
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>>143214279
So what the fuck was his plan?
Turn everyone into kabane colonies?
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>>143213468
I hope she dies
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>>143214344
Ikoma going kill that literal bitch?
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>>143214192
>Oh, so they're going for the Guilty Crown-esque "save the princess" ending after all

LAME
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>>143214279
>>143214344
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>>143214231
Ik...emen???
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If you manage to fuck things up this badly you don't deserve a second cour or a second season.
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>>143214279
Okay, it's time to stop
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>>143213533
Muh my dick
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>>143214417
No, he's going to blast straight through her heart with the white blood.
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>>143213787
They would make a very good looking couple.
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>>143214409
Crashing his country with no survivor
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>>143213752
Best girl
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>>143214066
>>143214196
>>143214215
Ikoma's Wrath
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>>143214470
He intended to have ayame be his baby maker in his new world
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>>143213779
>Long pink hair
>Evil
So hot
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He was so cute once.
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>>143214409
Gotta wait for subs on this one. Im kinda lost myself, Biba already won, seemigly without firing single shot (almost), so what was the point of turning Mumei in the first place.
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>>143214472
Kurusu is giving off such strong Baleman Begins vibes
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>>143213978
I thought only girls cut the hair for character development.
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>>143209510
It's very good
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>>143213978
>Cutting hair
>Character development
He is a faggot, only girls and faggots cut hair for "character develoment"
>>143213944
This is a man
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>>143204973
Wonder what his deal is. He certainly didn't like just killing people cause they're weak.
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>>143214531
No need to be jelly just because you'll never be as handsome, anon.
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>>143214192
>Oh, so they're going for the Guilty Crown-esque "save the princess" ending after all

Hopefully it's quick so Ikoma and Mumei gets to kill Biba before the end of this series
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>>143214472
That forehead.
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>>143214585
>so what was the point of turning Mumei in the first place.
She's not loyal to him anymore, might as well use her for the last time. But why do it that way, I dunno
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>>143214472
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>>143214543
What went wrong
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>>143214692
Daddy did something bad to him.
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>>143214585
he really just wanted to destroy everything, after all.
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So ikoman is ultraman now
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>>143214192
And final power-up that fucks up the MC. Ikoma confirmed for waifuless timeskip cripple.
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Im really curious how they gonna fucking end this madness in 20 minutes only. Especially when the show is made that if feels like the episodes are done in no time.
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>>143214279
Kill Mumei, that useless bitch. It is all her fault
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>>143213468
mei
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>>143214726
>Daddy did something bad to him.
It was tough love anon, tough love needed to necessary in times like this.
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>>143214344
>Wings
What the fuck Japan
This is a zombie anime
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>>143214344
We Evangelion Now bitches
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>>143214617
He is a faggot
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>>143214726
Shit dads 101. Toss your son into shit he comes out shitty.

>>143214753
I liked that. Especially when the one guy came from having a void inside him before dying.
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>>143214830
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>gun on the arm
Isn't he going to smash his shoulder after like one hit?
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2 serums

I wonder who'd get the other one
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>tfw it's real
At least final of GC was fun compared to biba bullshit
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>>143214344
That´s a big girl.
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>>143214755
WIT finds a way
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>>143214797
And people respond to it different.

Some come to love their tough love giving daddies, others plot how to murder them, others loathe them and literally don't give a shit when they die, and others kill their daddy and want the world to burn.
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>>143214279
why does okouchi still get work?
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So Ikoma will sacrifice himself to save Mumei, and there is not enough antidote for both of them. Fucking bullshit, I hate this stupid cliché.
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>>143214830
Fuck off
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>>143214859
>2 serums
>I wonder who'd get the other one

Wait, if that white one is the cure, would it make Mumei lose all of her abilities or will just revert back to her human state?
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Mumei was just a generic, dumb female characters that needs saving. What went wrong?
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>>143214854
Plot hole
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>>143214900
Fuck. Mumei should die instead.
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>>143214900
what if... they both die?
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>>143214279
At least we get good animation for last episode
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>>143214936
Loli.
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>>143214936
>Mumei was just a generic, dumb female characters that needs saving. What went wrong?

Biba
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>>143214963
are you sure, anon?

what if they burnt all their budget already and the finale looks like poop?
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>>143214927
Nah, one is the blue shit to turn them hyper and other is supposedly to turn it off. I dont think they get as far to get "kabane-cure-all" to get them back to human.
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>>143214344
Why the fuck are there wings?
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>>143215008
To look COOL
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>>143214936
>What went wrong?
Like everything, Biba was introduced
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>>143215008
zankoku na tenshi no you ni
shounen yo shinwa ni nare
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It's just fucking GC ending all over again, except even worse.
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>>143214876
He rarely works on anime recently
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>>143214951
Yes.
>>143214956
Even that would be preferable, if their death had a meaning. But like this they will just take each other out without any overall gain.
And Biba might even survive this shit, holy shit now thats a scary thought.
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>>143214872
Agreed
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>>143215265
You might've just had the greatest idea, anon.
What if the good guys lose and Biba gets what he wants?

I give Japan one more year before it gets completely overrun
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At the end it was just GC except that GC had more episodes which made it easier to bond to some of the characters.

At the end people really got pissed with how Shu and Inori ended up. Here nobody will care about Mumei or Ikoma dying.
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>>143215377
>What if the good guys lose and Biba gets what he wants?
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>>143215391
>Here nobody will care about Mumei or Ikoma dying.

They were fine in the first 7 episodes
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>>143215265
They don't even have a fraction of dynamic of Shu and Inori that would make their deaths, be it one of them or both, matter at all. I hoped for a good ending in GC after the shit the main pair went through, here I don't give a single fuck.
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>>143215391
>which made it easier to bond to some of the characters.
I hated every fucking character in GC barring Ayase since there's no Ayase in Kabaneri I just hate everyone.
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>>143215464
Yes, but this isn't a 7 episode series (I'd say Mumei was certainly not "fine" but had gotten "better" over time until Biba showed up)
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>>143215476
>Shu and Inori
>dynamic
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>>143213995
>>143214623
They're both faggots
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>>143215479
You have a cripple fetish.

Congratz.
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>>143215265
Probably unpopular opinion:
Throughout the series I had a feeling it could turn out really great if the whole story ended up done as "Tragedy of Mumei", but to cap it off she would need die at the end, preferably fighting off Biba, after she realize he just used and abused her the whole time.
But writers probably dont have balls for that.
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>>143214472
>>143213944
>>143213575
>>143213533
Why is he here?
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>>143215624
To save the day
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>>143215479
>I hated every fucking character
Fuck you
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>>143215613
Nah she was just the only likable character unlike Kabanerifags my like for characters isn't vased on fetishes
>>143215692
Didn't /a/ hate her for betraying Shu and being in that godawful "relationship" with Daryl?
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>>143215418
damn, he's pretty hot with them short hair
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>>143215533
They didn't have a good dynamic no, but at the very least you could at least see what they were going for and there were people who actually liked Inori who got (slightly) better as a character over the course of the series.

Nobody liked Shu as a person, but even detractors knew he got a pretty bad rap for an ending losing his waifu, his arm, and going blind and all
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>>143215533
Whatever you say. Literally the only things we got for Ikoma and Mumei are:
>she reminds me of my sister
>belly full of rice
Inori and Shu cared for each thorough the whole show, supported and saved each other, fell in love. No matter how shitty it was presented, they had much more going for them than Ikoma and Mumei.
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>>143215737
>vased
*based
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>>143210948
>a 180 at about the halfway point that drastically changes the tone of the series.

I don't see any change in tone here.
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>>143214192
Guilty Crown did not invent "save the princess" anon. That's like anime and JRPG ending plot 101.
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>>143214876
I see nothing wrong about that. Just a generic conclusion.
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>>143215737
/a/ liked her butt, she wasn't much of a character otherwise, even for GC's (low) standards.
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>>143215851
when will people understand that comparisons with shows like SnK or GC are made because the same people were behind all these shows and NOT because any of these titles invented anything?
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>>143214900
Why do you think he'll actually have to "sacrifice" himself?
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>>143215754
>>143215761
It's easy to just say a character loves one another its a whole nother factor to get the audience to care.

>they had much more going for them than Ikoma and Mumei.
They really didn't. Hell Inori actually made shit worse for him which would have made an interesting facet to the relationship being based on her fucking with his psyche but the show chose to ignore because OH LOOK THEY HAVE A GARDEN TOGETHER THEY'RE IN LOVE or HEY SHE JUST QUOTED THE FIRST LYRICS OF THE OPENING THEME.
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>>143215391
Everyone in GC sucked. I can at least root for Ikoma, Kurusu and Ayame in Kabaneri
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