Is there a better couple? I think not.
Maximum hetero.
>>143200227
>>143200700
>>143200761
>>143200227
FTFY
>>143200227
There definitely is a better couple.
You know it's true.
>>143200816
Haha, what a cuck.
Even after death they remained OTP.
>>143200854
Damn it man it's been a hundred fucking years, put a ring on that finger already.
Fuck Gonzo.
Get on my level.
>>143200816
I really feel bad for her.
Furryxhuman are best, prove me wrong.Oh wait, you can't.
>>143200227
Even if you don't want to admit it, you know it's true.
>>143200979
![[Coalgirls]_Cardcaptor_Sakura_Movie_II_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3F17F223].mkv_snapshot_00.04.11_[2015.09.25_13.18.15].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o6xiY1N.jpg "[Coalgirls]_Cardcaptor_Sakura_Movie_II_(1920x1080_Blu-ray_FLAC)_[3F17F223].mkv_snapshot_00.04.11_[2015.09.25_13.18.15].jpg")
>>143200968
>>143200999
>>143200968
You don't have to, it's her fault for being gay.
>>143201050
>>143200979
Clothes are better though.
Soon.
How bout this one, OP?
>>143201174
Space penis is even better.
>>143201039
She was destined to be gay. The universe literally cannot accept a world where people can move on.
Even alternate Tomoyos are gay for Sakura just like Syaoran is the son of his and Sakuras clone reincarnations.
Even if they marry a guy they'll always love that person more. Like Kohane and Doumeki both love Watanuki more than each other.
>>143201414
>She was destined to be gay
I'm pretty sure all characters in the Sakuraverse are bisexual by default.
>>143200923
Marriage is the first step toward divorce. This is why incest is the purest form of love.
While not a couple in the modern sense, contextually speaking they were closer to eachother as partners and allies than many examples of lovers you'll find. Stayed by eachother's side for countless thousands of years selflessly helping and protecting eachother against everything the universe could throw at them despite having no biological inclination to do so. A real shame they can't feel love.
>>143201567
The universe wants her to be gay for Sakura in every universe where she exists. Hell someone not dying at the exact moment their supposed to raised as a zombie fucks up reality.
>>143200227
>>143200979
I need to finish reading this. Thanks for the reminder.
>>143201174
Mein nigger
>>143200227
Delete this. Sakura is made for faceless old men only.
>>143200761
>lesbians actually believe this
They should all be burned at the stake.
>>143200227
I want to rape sakura in front of syoaran and then kill her.
>>143200816
Why are Sakura and CLAMP such fucking cunts?
>>143200816
Syaoran is better so who cares
>>143201567
You posted mine.
>>143200227
I still prefer these idiots
>>143200227
Solid choice, but Sakura and Syaoran's relationship isn't quite as good as pic related.
>>143200816
I wonder if Tomoyo kept being a secret lesbian or did like her mother and married someone
>>143210303
I kinda wish for the third option where she dates Mei for a bit. I'm not sure if it works out, but hey, now Tomoyo's a not-so-secret lesbian and she can explore other options.
>>143210303
I pity the poor sod who wound up as her beard (is there an equivalent lesbian term? Fuck if I know.) since you know she'd just spend all her spare time in her home theater, shlicking to her home videos of Sakura.
I'm in love with Tomoyo
But she's lesbian
My OTP for life.
>>143210303
What is the deal with her father whenever someone mentions her father she is always vague about it.
>>143210303
Is Tomoyo actually a lesbian though? I remember Clamp said Syaoran and Sakura's sex didn't matter they'd always end up falling in love with each other.
I'd think Tomoyo is the same way, she's happy so long as Sakura's happy so she'd be fine marrying some dude. Or she could just stalk around in the dark with a video camera for the rest of her life, that seems to make her happy too.
>>143200761
I agree. A shota/loli romance in grade school is super great.
>>143201414
>The universe literally cannot accept a world where people can move on.
I mean, Sakura moved on from Yukito. Syaoran did too, but I forgot what makes him move away from Yukito.
>>143200227
They are cute but not an actual couple until now. Shaoran confessed at the end of the show and Sakura expended two movies figuring if he liked him or not.
>>143210991
>Syaoran did too, but I forgot what makes him move away from Yukito.
Wasn't it less that he had an actual romantic sentiment towards him, and more that he felt a pull towards Yue?
Or something like that.
>>143200227
>>143201672
Wait, who are these? Reverse image search using SauceNao only leads to hetalia fanart.
>>143200854
These two as well.
>>143210380
>she dates Mei for a bit
Mei is straight, m8
>>143211111
I was gonna say that a man could dream, but those quints shut me right the hell down.
>>143211018
Yeah, there's barely any show of their relationship now that they're an actual fucking couple who's dating each other.
I hope the Clear Card Chapter will show more Sakura/Syaoran dating, I have been waiting years for that.
>>143200854
Agreed.
>>143211234
Are they actually married yet? None of the VIVID's "Oh I just call them my mothers, they're not married" shit. Lots of the fanbase loves this gay shit, why not make them official
>>143211316
They marriage was teased for a long time when Nanoha StrikerS was airing, but they didn't make it official until the first chapter of the Nanoha Vivid manga came out, that was a long time ago.
>>143211316
The fanbase loves it. The actors love it. The director loves it. Everyone except for some disgruntled side-project writers love it.
I just go with the one doujinshi where it turns out Fate just can't settle for anything less than perfect so it keeps getting put off, and leave it at that.
>>143211523
That sounds adorable. I need to read it.
>>143211523
People usually speculate they married around 19 and are renewing their vows at least once a year judging by the huge amount of wedding artworks with different dresses. They must have married between the end of StrikerS and the start Vivid for the change with Vivio's adoption makes sense too.
>>143211675
Just search through the Non-H NanoFate stuff on SadPanda, you'll find it quick enough I'm sure.
>>143211799
>103 results in English
And that's not even half of the stuff that gets posted on dynasty scans.
I don't think that will be a very quick search.
>>143211523
>>143211234
Disgusting, one of the reason I'll never watch this.
>>143211799
>>143211889
103 results? I fap to that many doujins in a single night! This should be a cinch.
I remember the CLAMPs mentioning in an interview that Sakura and Syaoran are fated lover and will always fall in love no matter what. Not even gender. Sakura would fall in love for the little wolf even if he was a girl.
Would you have wished to see a alt universe where Sakura and Syaoran were a lesbian couple?
>>143212729
>Would you have wished to see a alt universe where Sakura and Syaoran were a lesbian couple?
I'd read that What-If.
>>143212729
That doesn't stop Sakura from being an insensitive bitch.
>>143212729
I think it would be a cute one-shot, but I'm already so invested in what already exists that it would take one hell of a good one-shot for me to want more.
>>143212851
She's not an insensitive bitch if she doesn't return Tomoyo's feelings. That just means she's not really into Tomoyo. It happens.
>>143212913
See >>143200816
Insensitive and dense.
>>143212851
>>143212913
Or just the fact that she can't comprehend her Best Friend/Whatever-degree-of-cousin having a homosexual attraction to her.
She's not insensitive because it never crosses her mind. Just oblivious.
>>143213016
>it never crosses her mind
That's what makes it insensitive.
>>143212729
>Would you have wished to see a alt universe where Sakura and Syaoran were a lesbian couple?
I'd wish to see a setting where Tomoyo, the only person who was 100% faithful to their feelings of love for the whole series, to win the girl she likes.
>>143213060
Not the anon you answered, but insensitivity implies that she knows about Tomoyo's feelings and just doesn't care. Sakura just doesn't know.
>>143213093
I would definitely read that.
>>143213093
Sakura loves Syaoran in every universe though. Why do people still keep treating Tomoyo like she lost? SakuraxSyaoran is her super OTP, she's super stoked for it.
>>143213148
>insensitivity implies that she knows
It actually doesn't.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/insensitive
>Not aware of or able to respond to something:
>>143213093
There's always fanfic. It's hard to get someone when the will of the universe ships that person with someone else.
>>143213488
You're dumb.
>she's super stoked for it
>>143200816
>>143213488
This. Tomoyo even willingly helped SxS to happen.
>>143213625
Because she's a better person than you.
She wants the person she loves to be happy, that doesn't somehow exclude her from losing romantically.
>>143213555
How would Tomoyo feel if an integral part of her waifu's character was rewritten to force her waifu to love her? If you have to fundamentally change someone so they'll love you back would that really be happiness?
>>143213527
From the same link
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/insensitive
>Showing or feeling no concern for others' feelings
That's the very first definition, anon. Now, granted, my original point that insensitivity implies that she knows,was off, but Sakura is totally concerned for the feelings that she knows Tomoyo has. It just so happens that Tomoyo cares about Sakura being happy above being with Sakura herself.
>>143213590
What are you even saying? Tomoyo is literally saying Sakura's happiness makes her the happiest? She didn't leave this scene and start crying in a ball like you seem to think.
>yuricucks are mad because a girl is straight
>>143213733
I would. I would take sakura's love no matter the form.
>>143213690
This makes me think about the salty fanfic writers that turn Syoran into a douche to justify breaking up their relationship when in reality Syaoran would react almost the same as Tomoyo. Had Tomoyo won he would be sad for a while but ultimateky happy for them because of how much he values Sakura's hapiness and well being as also how high his opinion and trust in Tomoyo are. Remember he nit only was willing to put his life on the line for Sakura numerous times but also how he was willing to actually forfeit his chances with her whe he felt he was being selfish for approaching her when she was dealing with her feelings for Yukito (until, surprise, surprise, Tomoyo encouraged him to go on). And at the end was happy just with making his feelings for her clear.
There's a reason Tomoyo picked him. He's a pretty fine choice for a couple.
>ITT: Anons talking about how perfect and nice kids can be to each other, while grumbling about how awful their lives are in comparison
>>143210445
My bro! RubyxSaphire is the best pokespe ship.
>>143213755
But that's the thing, she makes to effort to actually understand Tomoya or her feelings. Thus why she is insensitive. Ignorance is never an excuse.
>>143213830
>feelings are only what people visibly express
Not really. Or do you honestly think he is happy that she will never have her feelings requited.
>>143213962
No, not that she's straight, nor mad. Just that it's ban writing, and Tomoyo is literally forced through the plot itself to be alone forever.
>>143213985
>reading fics
You don't really belong on /a/.
Also, yeah the reason she picked him is because the plot demanded it. CLAMP always puts down yuri relationships.
Syoran and Sakura both lusted after multiple other people. Tomoyo is the only one who was truly faithful 100% to her feelings. If Syoran was shallow and unfaithful once, he's more than likely to do it again.
>>143206274
Why would you want this?
>>143214073
What more effort could Sakura have really made? Do you want her to just outright ask Tomoyo if she has a crush on her? I like SakuraxTomoyo as much as the next guy, but if Tomoyo actually went out of her way to hook her up with Syaoran because she thinks they would make a happy couple and her happiness is contingent on Sakura's happiness, then that is a selfless love. People may not always verbalize their emotions, but actions speak just as, if not more, loudly than words.
>>143213733
>force [...] to love
This is literally EXACTLY what the story does for Syoran and Sakura.
>>143214073
>Ignorance is never an excuse.
More Inexperience rather than ignorance. Sakura always tries to figure the feelings of the people she cares for but is a really poor judge on the romance departament because she have the viewpoint of an average 10 year old girl. It's pointed sometimes that Tomoyo is pretty mature for her age and express her feelings accirdingly. No wonder it flies over the head of a naive little girl like Sakura (not even her more mature and experienced friends like Rika or Chiharu are aware of it, Syaoran kinda grasped it in Season 3).
>>143214185
>because the plot demanded it
Well yeah, it's what happen to every fictional character in every work of fiction ever.
>>143214073
You're not Tomoyo anon, stop trying to self insert as her. She is happy even if her feelings aren't requited. She's not suffering, that's just how she is.
>>143214288
Pretty much anything. She could have actually thought about a lot of the things Tomoyo said. Not written them off. Like the multiple times Tomoyo said she loves Sakura. Plus dozens of other these scenes that strongly express her feelings.
>>143214382
>More Inexperience rather than ignorance
One does not exclude the other. And Tomoyo may be more mature, but for Sakura to not pick up on the obvious signs in Tomoyo's behavior is really bad.
>>143214468
More so in this situation, though. And the authors even flat out say this.
>>143214518
People who self insert ever are stupid. Also, I can guarantee you that Tomoyo would be happier if she did not have to spend her whole life alone.
>>143214185
>You don't really belong on /a/.
Maybe but it's still fun to come around.
>CLAMP always puts down yuri relationships.
X says otherwise.
>Syoran and Sakura both lusted after multiple other people.
Yukito suddenly means "multiple other people"
>Syoran was shallow and unfaithful once, he's more than likely to do it again.
According to your logic so is Sakura.
>>143214672
>Sakura and Syaoran is even more forced a pairing than any other
>I wish they'd fundamentally change Sakura so she'd fall in love with Tomoyo like natural
>>143214696
X had no actual meaningful yuri relationship in it. And in all other CLAMP works the "close female friends" end up with dudes by the end.
Yeah, I already said that Tomoyo is the only one who was 100% faithful to her love. You said Syoran was "the best person for Sakura" or whatever, and I'm saying that's not correct.
>>143214061
My comrade of elevated taste.
The main reason why I was even hyped for ORAS was because of them.
>>143214672
I could rape tomoyo in front of sakura. That way i get to take revenge on sakura and tomoyo gets attention from sakura.
>>143214551
>>143214672
Sakura's oblivious as hell about romance. Remember that she didn't know that even Syaoran had feelings for her until he flat out told her. Tomoyo on the other hand, is family so I imagine Sakura's first thought here is that she's just expressing familial love as opposed to a romantic one. But, let's assume that Sakura did somehow put it all together and knew that Tomoyo was in love with her. Tomoyo isn't entitled to Sakura's love. People fall in and out of love all the time and, here's the real kicker, they're all ten. Tomoyo has a whole lifetime to find someone who makes her just as happy as Sakura did. It just strikes me as weird that you assume that since she didn't get the girl at the end of the manga she spends her whole life alone and pining for Sakura. That's a bit overdramatic, no?
>>143210445
You're a man with a refined taste
>>143214551
>the obvious signs in Tomoyo's behavior
The only individuales who picked it were Eriol a powerful adult mage with high intelect and Syaoran a kind smart kid who spent a lotta amount of time with her while paying very close attention to the interacciona between her and Sakura. Literally nobody else shows signs of noticing Tomoyo's "obvious" behavior. Not even her mother that went through something similar.
Remember we as the audience commonly have an advantage over the cast in terms of oerception because we get all the viewpoints and private moments of sincerity from most characters.
>>143200227
But wasnt the little kid gay ?
>>143215017
I think the canon explanation was that he was attracted to Yue's magic, but yeah, he's probably bi.
Yurifags are pathetic
![tumblr_ninpbirDHt1s1bot7o1_500[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/2ZDpsfX.jpg "tumblr_ninpbirDHt1s1bot7o1_500[1].png")
>>143200227
Bestest couple reporting in
>>143214883
>Sakura's oblivious as hell about romance.
Again, ignorance is not an excuse for anything.
>People fall in and out of love all the time
Yes, and that makes them shallow.
>Tomoyo has a whole lifetime to find someone who makes her just as happy
The story flat out says this will never happen.
Did you even read this manga?
>>143214931
Are you seriously saying that any person in their right mind couldn't see how this scene >>143200816 alone is full of double meaning and messages. The looks on Tomoyo's face say a lot.
>>143215108
>>143213962
Says the person who can't type and keeps making substance-less one line posts.
>>143201155
What?
>>143201222
At least someone in here has taste
>>143214824
For someone who doesn't read fanfics you surely think like a fanfic writer. Syaoran may be flawed but he isn't the scum of the earth you're trying to sell. He tempered his character, matured as a person thought the series and proved to be a reliable considerate boy that would never force anything on anyone but will be honest with his feelings. For two people that "were unfaithful once" they got to endure two years appart while still loving each other.
>>143214883
>Tomoyo has a whole lifetime to find someone who makes her just as happy as Sakura did. It just strikes me as weird that you assume that since she didn't get the girl at the end of the manga she spends her whole life alone and pining for Sakura. That's a bit overdramatic, no?
This. I don't get why people think someone as smart, kind and likable as Tomoyo's won't be able to find hapiness later in life.
>>143215204
Yeah, the double meaning is that the person she's talking about is Sakura, not that she's lying and is actually depressed. Tomoyo is happy.
>>143215319
>This.
Doing this should be an instant ban. This is not reddit, you don't upvote posts.
>I don't get why people think someone as smart, kind and likable as Tomoyo's won't be able to find hapiness later in life.
Though, it's clear I'm talking to "people" haven't even read the series. Because one of the plot points is Tomoyo straight up saying she will never love anyone else. And that even hold true across the CLAMP multiverse.
>>143215204
Just because she didn't find them doesn't mean she didn't have the chance. Though I give it to ya, I only watched the anime and it has been many a year since I've gone back. That said, your idea that falling out of love is shallow makes absolutely no sense to me. People change and at some point the person you fall in love with isn't the same person anymore or you're not the same person who fell in love with them in the first place. Or are you gonna tell me that you're still into your very first crush? But if we're gonna tie this right back to the show, why would you want Sakura to get with Tomoyo if, by your logic, she's shallow? Wouldn't it potentially hurt Tomoyo more to lose Sakura in such a way?
>>143215204
>The story flat out says this will never happen.
Citation needed.
>The looks on Tomoyo's face say a lot.
To us. The audience.
>>143215237
>substance-less one line posts.
Like the one you posted?
>>143215399
You can't even keep what you're talking about straight in your head. Do you even remember what you're talking about?
The first point was about Sakura and how she makes no effort to actually understand Tomoyo or her feelings.
The point was not about Tomoyo past her having romantic feelings for Sakura.
>>143215454
>Because one of the plot points is Tomoyo straight up saying she will never love anyone else.
She's ten.
>And that even hold true across the CLAMP multiverse.
She's barely a teenager in all of those.
Until you show me an elder Tomoyo's alone still pinning for Sakura this don't hold water. Sonomi even started to blush around Fujitaka by the end.
>>143215468
>>143215529
>makes absolutely no sense to me
Because you're a shallow person yourself.
If the feelings weren't shallow, do you really think they would go away so easily? Marriage vows have the line "till death do us part" for a reason.
>Just because she didn't find them doesn't mean she didn't have the chance.
>Citation needed.
This isn't even something that's being said for the very first time. People make note of how Tomoyo said this all the time. How new are you?
>Like the one you posted?
Nope. The post say substance, because it's pointing out what you are actually doing.
>>143215691
>the story doesn't count because it proves my argument wrong
Why are you even here? The story gives you information for a reason. You can't say it's wrong just because you don't like it.
>>143215555
>The first point was about Sakura and how she makes no effort to actually understand Tomoyo or her feelings.
The thing is Sakura does try to take Tomoyo's feelings in consideración to the point of straight up asking her about it but she lack the experience to realize her true feelings and Tomoyo also avoids being sincere even when given the chance on a silver plate. Say what you want about Syaoran but him getting to spit it out was probably what made the bigger difference. And it was something Tomoyo was perfectly aware of as it was her the one who told him about Sakura's outstanding innocence.
I don't get why are you so salty if Tomoyo was the one who foiled her chances with Sakura by choice.
>>143215865
It's exactly what you're doing. The story worked hard and good to make the feelings of Sakura and Syaoran valid and you're shitting on it saying they were "forced by the plot" just because you preferred a different outcome.
>>143216102
That is not what I'm doing in the slightest. I'm not taking anything the plot said and am claiming it's wrong. I said it's bad and poorly written, but that's not even close to the same thing as saying it's not valid even though the story says it.
>>143216232
You contradictorio the plot calling Sakura and Syaoran shallow when their feelings and circumstances were explored in grear detail to show us the growing strenght of their bond.
>>143215979
>salty
People who use this word are so pathetic.
I hope you realize that your whole argument is still boiling down to "ignorance is an excuse".
And you are forgetting the main point here, which is that the whole story itself is forcing certain aspects. Which is the issue that was being talked about in the first place. That because the story itself prevents it from happening, a certain character is forced into being a sandbag.
>>143216398
>contradictorio
Learn English, please. And no, I'm not contradicting the plot. They're feelings are still shallow even if the story builds around them. Because they already showed what their true characters are like.
>>143214911
Really it is a damn shame nobody reads it because it is pokemon.
These two are one of the cutest couple I have ever seen and it is a bummer that some anons will never know this.the battles are also pretty nice
>>143216651
Forgot pic
>>143215795
Nice Ad Hominem, bro. But getting back to the point, your argument seems to boil down to, people are static and cannot change. I also notice that you've artfully dodged my questions.
>>143210303
It's clamp, she marries some dude because lesbians need to get dicked or die, preferably both.
>>143210794
Female Syaoron and male sakura would work. Male Syaoron and male Sakura would work. Clamp would never let female syaoron and female Sakura work though.
>>143217281
Nice lack of basic knowledge and thinking skill, bro. ad hominem does not mean what you think it does. ad hominem is an argumentative tool that means to dismiss what someone says in favor of personally attacking them. I did not dismiss anything you said, thus it's not ad hominem.
And that's not even close to what my argument boils down to. Change does not mean you inherently are shallow.
>>143217447
>Because you're a shallow person yourself
Ah... I see that calling people shallow for not understanding your strange thoughts on relationships isn't Ad Hominem. But sure, let's move on from here and and onto your next point.
Your arguments thus far seem to go as such, and please, correct me if I'm mistaken:
>The relationship between Sakura and Syaoran is badly written because they each had a crush on someone else
>Because Tomoyo has been in love with Sakura, and only Sakura, she is entitled to Sakura's affections
>Despite being 10 and generally oblivious to love, Sakura should have picked up on Tomoyo's feelings, a feat that very few other people on the show were able to pull, and there is no excuse for Sakura not returning those feelings.
>People who have every fallen out of love with someone are shallow.
Is that about the extent of it?
>>143216694
This is adorable. I'm gonna read this manga just to get to this point.
>>143217744
Yes, because ad hominem does not mean "insult".
And no. You got it pretty wrong. Though, you have the parts about the same.
-The relationship between Sakura and Syaoran is shallow because they loved other people.
-Because Tomoyo has been in love with Sakura, and only Sakura, she is has feelings that are not shallow and is better for Sakura. Not to say Sakura is better for her.
-Despite being 10 Tomoyo is smart enough to act rationally and understand subtle things, which means there is not excuse for Sakura not being able to, and the story is poorly written because of that. Because understanding someone's feelings should not take god-tier magic.
-Yes. Those feelings are shallow.
>>143218270
Alright, now that we've appropriately touched base, maybe we can start getting somewhere. Here we go.
>To both your first and last points, part of growing up and finding that right person is that you go through a few people who aren't for you. Again, I doubt that you are still into your very first crush or even the very first person you were reasonably sure you were in love with, but I'm certain that those feelings were no less valid.
>Alright, this is an interesting point. Does Tomoyo's completely unshaken love for Sakura mean that it is best for her? I'd say, not necessarily. A relationship is based on more than just unshakeable feelings, they're based on a kind of understanding that goes beyond simply being into someone. If Tomoyo's love is based on what she feels is best for Sakura and she then goes out of her way to get Sakura and Syaoran together, then it stands to reason that Tomoyo understands that Syaoran would make Sakura happier.
>People grow up at different rates. Tomoyo is acknowledged in the series as being mature for her age, Sakura, less so.
>Back to my first point.
>>143212729
>I remember the CLAMPs mentioning in an interview that Sakura and Syaoran are fated lover and will always fall in love no matter what.
That stinks.
>>143218578
Stop typing everything in greentext. You are so new it hurts to look at you.
No, growing up does not excuse having shallow feelings. Just because many people do have shallow feelings does not mean that it's "part of growing up". Kids eat paste when growing up, does that mean it's not something that's wrong. Of course not.
>I'd say
No one is asking what'd you say. This is about what's factual. And there is no way Syaoran, someone who has shallow feelings is better for anyone.
You missed the point entirely. And again, just because people grow up at different rates doesn't excuse Sakura acting like a retard. Also, you made the point that almost no one in the series was able to pick up on Tomoyo's feelings. Which, again, is stupid. Because that's not actually something that's hard to do.
See point one.
>>143218270
I can't believe you really think this is how human relationships work. I hope this is bait. I'm worried for you, anon.
>>143219092
>And there is no way Syaoran, someone who has shallow feelings is better for anyone.
Maybe for a shallow girl like Sakura? At least they're growing up at the same level.
>>143219103
I can't believe you really think "I say you're wrong so it's fact" is how logical processing actually works. I hope this is bait. I pity you, anon.
My ack radar is going off hard in this thread. Time to post some madoka crack shipping?
>>143219195
Just cause more damage, they're both a negative.
>>143219228
>madoka crack
It's safe to say Madoka is the worst thing to ever happen because it gave birth to people like you. You ruin every thread you touch.
Honestly, how fast are you trying to report posts right now. I bet it's a lot, because you think your behavior is justified.
>>143219210
>People can't make wrong desicions and definetely can't learn from them to grow wiser.
This is how you sound. Did something happened? Why are you so strict and unforgiving? Very un-Tomoyo like.
>>143219324
Yep. Ack is here.
>>143219341
Because this is now about a decision. They are just inherently shallow like that.
>>143219376
What you expect people to say to you when you go "hi, I'm going to ruin this thread"?
No really, what do you think people should be saying.
>>143219439
Ack~
>>143219228
>>143219376
>>143219495
What's Ack? Google comes up with nothing.
>>143200227
Hikki X Yukino
>>143219513
A mentally ill guy who hangs out in yuri and especially madoka threads. Nothing to really indicate that guy is ack though
>>143219103
So, gonna throw this out there, I'm not this guy, though I am somewhat inclined to agree that this isn't how relationships work in general.
>>143219092
Alright, no greentext it is, you surly bastard.
Growing up may not necessarily excuse behavior, but it makes it understandable. In your example, we say it's wrong to eat glue, not because of a moral or philosophical standpoint. We tell you not to eat it because it's bad for the body. When kids screw up at friendship we might scold them, but we generally don't make all that much of a judgement on them as people. They have learning to do.
Also, you're really gonna try and place an objective value on FEELINGS? Those things that are inherently subjective?
Anyway, this thread is about couples and it's about time I posted another.
>>143219495
I'll take that as you are insane, and it doesn't matter what people say, you're going to assume you're right now matter what.
>>143219513
It's literally nothing. There is one insane spammer who spams tumblr shipping nonsnse, and he calls anyone who thinks what he is doing wrong is "ack".
You can look it up in the archives.
>>143219412
Then what's the merit in Tomoyo being with a shallow girl?
>>143215147
Mi negro.
>>143219568
Well, you look like the crazy one here, you just keep throwing around accusations with no proof. So you have any thing to back up what you're saying?
>>143219592
I get a lot of results for words like "back" when I look for "ack". But I do see some examples of what you are talking about. That is a lot of spam.
Easy way to find out
>best couple coming through
>>143219570
This isn't about morals. Strong feelings are based on something that's imaginable, not something that's moral based. Strong feelings last forever, and do not waver. Shallow feelings do.
Feelings are subjective, but you do not understand what subjective means. It sure does not mean that any feelings at all can be considered strong just because you think they are. If the husband sleeps around and cheats on his wife are his feelings strong just because he says the words "my feelings are wrong." Obviously not. It's all action and result based. You have to prove your feelings are strong. Sakura and Syaoran have shown through their actions that theirs are not.
>>143219605
I never said there was.
>>143219807
>only one person in the world can take issue with me shitposting
Solid reasoning you got there. What are you going to do next, reinvent the wheel?
>>143219807
Well, it seems >>143219592 was 100% right about you. You act the same way in the archives.
Unless you want to try and prove them wrong and present some evidence of your own.
>>143219570
This (yeah, sue me). I agreed wholeheartily with this post and furtunately i'm convinced shallow hater is way off the mark about what the intended meaning of the show was in relation to the main cast and their choices.
>>143219894
Shitposting? It is a thread about best couple and here they sit.
>>143219984
You know exactly what you are doing.
>people discussing a series and staying on topic
>you think it's funny to derail the thread and try to bait people with tumblr shipping nonsense the demeans the relationships of the characters in the show
Everyone knows you are the problem.
>>143219857
>Any couple not getting togheter by love at first sight is shallow and wrong.
Said no well adjusted person ever.
>>143219984
>Shitposting?
You said in this post >>143219807 "Easy way to find out", which means you are trying to "test" your ack theory. Which also means you are intentionally trying to provoke people. That is shitposting.
>>143220050
Not sure how i am derailing the thread
The topic is
>is there a better couple
This is a better couple.
>>143219956
You agreeing does not make anything more or less wrong.
>>143220097
Again, "till death do us part".
Real feelings are not meant to be shallow.
>>143219857
Here's the problem with your example on the husband and wife, there are too many variables. You say that people don't understand many things, but you seem to not understand the concept of feelings in general. You seem to be under the assumption that strong feelings stay strong as opposed to what actually happens which is they grow and wane in strength. A person who falls in love with their friend didn't start out with strong feelings, they developed, and the people who get married aren't always gonna feel the same kind of love as they do on their wedding day. Feelings change. That's how they work and not even vows can change that. Now, Sakura and Syaoran have shown at least a mutual affection for another so if you think actions speak louder then fine, let's wait until the new manga comes out and we'll see their actions. But for god's sake stop assuming that you're the only one who understands relationships. That's a good way to show you don't.
>>143219984
>>143220050
Actually, if we're gonna be on-topic, then we gotta post couples. In which case, make way for the superior couple
>>143220116
Did not know you were a mind reader. Inpressive abilities, because i could uave meant a lot of things by that. For instance, testing if an image would post.
>>143220167
That is not a couple. There is no romantic relationship between them in the series. You are posting it because of what >>143220116 said.
>>143220192
>You agreeing does not make anything more or less wrong.
Nor less accurate. The show, the arguments and character actions factually disagree with your claims. Just watching the show is enough to notice.
>>143220249
Let me just point out how obvious your behavior is. Note how people have been saying things against Syaoran x Sakura for a long time in the thread before you showed up. Notice how no one spammed like you are. You are the only person who acts the way you do.
>>143220249
I don't have mind reading powers, and yet I'm still correct. Pretty impressive, right? You can lie if you want, but that "ack" search I did in the archives shows that you always act like this.
>>143220305
>You are the only person who acts the way you do.
And who am i?
>>143220443
You said right here >>143219228 "Time to post some madoka crack shipping?" then here said >>143219807 "Easy way to find out" while posting Madoka crack. People can see what you are doing.
As to who you are? You're the person who spams every thread.
>>143220530
I see, i'm sorry you think that. Im just posting best couple.
>>143220212
>there are too many variables
There actually aren't. And you didn't explain any of these variables. So I have no way of correcting you.
>they grow and wane in strength
If they wane is strength they are shallow. That's quite literally the definition. Feelings can change, but that means they are weak and not ideal.
>stop assuming that you're the only one who understands relationships
I don't. The statements I'm making are pretty much common sense. It's normal to think this way. This way being "something is not true just because I say it".
>>143220603
No, you're spamming it. Like it was already pointed out.
>Let me just point out how obvious your behavior is. Note how people have been saying things against Syaoran x Sakura for a long time in the thread before you showed up. Notice how no one spammed like you are. You are the only person who acts the way you do.
From a previous post.
You are the only person spamming. The only one. Notice how there is no Syaoran x Sakura spamming. Because normal people know how to conduct themselves.
>>143220603
That's not what I think, it's what I know as a matter of fact. You are also not posting a couple. Those two characters do not have a romantic relationship in the setting of their series. Which means, that you posting art of them in that situation belittles their in series relationships. Which then means, you don't actually like the characters.
>>143220686
Interesting theory, but it has been rejected
This what Tsubasa Chronicles should be.
>>143220627
Cool so variables, Vegas weddings, shotgun weddings, marriage of convenience. But if you want "strong" feelings, fine. The average person who has ever been divorced had strong feelings for their partner. They weren't eternal or anything, but you normally don't get married to a person that you don't have any strong feelings for (Unless we go for any of those weddings at the start of this post). Hell, the average relationship that lasts still changes. Mind you at its core it's still love but an old married couple is probably not gonna love eachother like they did on the wedding day. Because people and their feelings change. Also, I notice that you're the only one here who seems to think that it's shallow to eventually break up with someone. Maybe what you think isn't the norm. It certainly isn't the norm to marry your middle school crush and have that relationship last though.
>>143220756
>Which means, that you posting art of them in that situation belittles their in series relationships. Which then means, you don't actually like the characters.
Crack-kun? What are you doing here? Probably bored because no one is taking your old bait in the Nanoha thread, huh?
>>143220775
Are you ever going to stop? Your behavior is not acceptable. You don't have the right to ruin threads for everyone.
Why do you even come to these threads? You don't care about couples in anime or care to discuss them, all you have been doing is spamming to attack people.
>>143220903
Stop what? I am completely on topic.
>>143220877
You are the one trying to bait here.
Do you notice how a thread goes from normal with discussion to you spamming about meta garbage the second you show up? Do you really see nothing wrong with that?
There is no such thing as "crack kun". No one at all agrees with you. Not a single person. There is nothing to support the person is even real.
>>143220943
Stop spamming. Stop being an asshole. Stop doing all the spiting people.
>on topic
No, the topic is couples. You are not posting a couple. Madoka and Sayaka do not have a romantic relationship.
>>143220995
That was not me ack-kun~
>>143220877
>>143220943
>>143221071
See my first post >>143219324
And yes, it was you.
Why do you have do to do this. Do you really think it's fair that you ruin all these threads.
>>143221116
Shhh, its ok. Just embrace the best couple and it will all be over
>>143221071
Stop being off topic. This thread is not about your personal grudge with a boogieman nor is about tumblr shipping. It's about romantic relationships in anime. That is not what you are spamming images of.
Also, there is no such this as ack-kun. Sure is strange how only people who claim he's real are the one's who refuse to give proof what they are saying. Do you have any proof this ack person exists.
>>143220826
What's funny is that he isn't even reacting to a break up or infidelity, or something actually meaningful. He's calling a couple kiddos shallow because they had feelings for a likable person and then moved on. All without even establishing a relationship and both before getting to know each other better and thus develop deeper feelings than just infatuation. Guess every little girl that thought a boy is cute without getting to anything before settling on to a proper couple is an unfaithful slut. Same with little boys.
God forbbid you if you if you don't swear eternal love for that cute girl you stared at the street for one minute thinking she seems nice.
>>143220826
I just want to ask, do you think >>143221190 >>143221071 >>143220943 's behavior is acceptable.
>>143221047
If you're not crack-kun then you're doing a great job impersonating him.
>>143221190
>if yo don't let me have my way I will keep spamming forever
Very mature.
>>143221214
>Guess every little girl that thought a boy is cute
This is not even close to what happens in CCS. They explicitly show romantic feelings for the other person.
>>143221194
I am in topic. The topic is better couple that op. You are the one derailing the thread by responding to me.
>>143221297
>mature
>4chan
Pick one.
>>143221267
>>143221301
You can't impersonate someone who does not exist.
Note: you are pretending to be multiple people and both of these people will not give proof that ack is real.
You are also not posting a couple. Just because you keep saying it's a couple doesn't mean it is.
And you are only making yourself look bad by spamming it constantly.
>>143221301
>I am in topic.
No, you're not. Madoka and Sayaka are not a couple, therefore they are not on topic for the thread. You are also spamming which is against the rules either way.
>>143221369
I pick 4chan from 8-9 years ago.
>>143221381
>spamming is anything i dont like
>>143221297
>They explicitly show romantic feelings for the other person.
And explicitly based on infatuation. Neither Sakura nor Syaoran got to any meaningful stage with their first crush beyond getting awed by that person's awesomeness. It was when Sakura saw beyond her image Yukito that she realize his flaws and feelings and accepted those moving on from her own feelings for him. That was actually very thoughtful from her part. Syaoran was simply impressed by him and it was a plot point magic people attracting each other just like Kaho made Sakura feelings happy just because.
At the end bot got to learn to differentiate allurance from genuine love born from actual understanding and time invested with one another which made their feelings less "idealized" and more solid.
Ideal not always means best. I think this was one of the morals of the show.
>>143221515
No, spamming is repeating the same thing over and over. You are spamming images of Madoka and Sayaka.
And let's point out again how you will obstinately refuse to give a single shred of evidence this this "ack" is real, and it's not just everyone taking issue with you for spamming and derailing threads.
>>143200985
Nah i would be fine with it.
>>143221595
Go to any Nanoha thread and wait for the guy that complains about crack ships meaning you don't like the series and gets nuclear about NanoFate marriage being official canon. That guy is Crack-kun.
>>143221784
For a few moments I thought that was a muslim girl hiking up her hijab.
>>143221710
That's not how proof works, sorry. You need to think harder. Proof is actually something tangible.
>hey, go shitpost, if someone says you're doing something wrong, that means they're crack kun
Awesome reasoning. You sure proved your point. It's not at all like many people can take issue with something bad.
And yeah, liking crack does mean you don't like a series. That's a pretty normal statement. Why should any think you like a series when you are belittling it.
>>143221925
>The Devil's greatest trick was convincing the world he doesn't exist.
It kinda works because he has a pretty consistent and predictable pattern. It's easy to assume its the same guy.
>>143220826
>variables, Vegas weddings, shotgun weddings, marriage of convenience
This are 100% irrelevant to the actual point. The statement could have been "couple" instead of husband and wife. The example is showing that the words "i have strong feelings" does not mean "feelings are strong."
>The average person who has ever been divorced had strong feelings for their partner.
No, they weren't strong. They were shallow. Just because they got to high point, doesn't mean they were actually strong. Say this is a scale to 100. 100 is eternal love.
Just because the people who get divorced normal state is 2 or 3 and they reach a 10, that doesn't mean they're feelings are wrong, when you measure them up to 100. The feelings they had are weak.
>>143221576
>Ideal not always means best.
Ideal literally means best.
Also, Sakura and Syaoran both got to the point where they were obsessive over him. They, like I already said, showed romantic feelings for him far past just blushing a little and thinking he looked good. They liked him as a person.
>>143221860
motherfucker
>>143222054
No
>shitpost
>get told off
That's not a predictable pattern. That's cause and effect. When you do something bad, people want that bad thing to stop, so they do something about it. Like picking up trash off the side walk or cleaning graffiti off a wall.
There is no pattern, you just assume anyone who says anything against you is your boogieman. You still have no proof.
>>143214827
Too bad Ruby was pretty terrible in ORAS.
>>143222122
Yeah, you're right. My initial points were weak. I was in a bit of a hurry, but that's not an excuse. What >>143221576
is spot on though. Syaoran and Sakura were infatuated with Yukito. Just because they go over him doesn't mean that their feelings for each other are automatically weak. It just means that their feelings for Yukito, specifically, we're not as strong as they'd perceived, in part because they didn't understand him as well as they thought they did, in part because people misinterpret things about their feelings all the time and partly because feelings change the time. However, just because your feelings for one person aren't "strong" as you put does not mean that you don't eventually learn to gain those strong feelings for someone else through time, and learning to understand someone. Tomoyo saw that Sakura and Syaoran understood one another in, possibly, a way that she isn't quite privvy given that they shared some pretty intense experiences together. Like I said, I love the idea of Sakura and Tomoyo together, but I think part of what makes Tomoyo so interesting is that she's willing to give up being with Sakura so that Sakura might gain a deeper happiness than she might have had with even Tomoyo
>>143222122
>They liked him as a person.
They liked the ideal of the person they saw him as. It's after looking beyond that ideal that they grew up from that mentality and moved on and started to grasp what loving someone actually means.
Perfection is a flawed concept because its entirely subjected to each person's needs, preferences and circumstances. What's "ideal" to someone doesn't necessarily makes it ideal for the person next to you. Sakura and Syaoran worked because got to experience and deal with romantic feelings before and thus grasping better what these mean for both parts. Syaoran who started arrogant and selfish developed a very selfless love for Sakura while the latter learned to identify the feelings in her heart better and emphasize a bit better with people around her not taking their appreciations for granted which allowed her to recognize and accept Syaoran's feelings. Sakura was very innocent before that and needed those experiences and confrontation so she could start maturing.
They are a good couple formed on the basis of mutual trust and support to go through these experiences together and grow from those as people and lovers.
>>143223542
This guy gets it.
What the fuck is up with this thread? who let these contrarian Yurifags spread?
>>143200227
These cups.
>>143223739
It's just one guy sperging about Tomoyo and the other one doing classic crack hating bait.
>>143221669
How about this one then?
>>143201672
Been shipping this since before Christ. And before Fate, I'm honestly just glad to have a ready supply of OTP pics. Not entirely glad with Enkidu's design, but I warmed up.
>>143223746
Hot
>>143223912
>being against tumblr shipping nonsense is bait
No.
Maybe not best but its the wackiest and funniest one.
This thread needs some opposite-yuri in it's life.
This thread is exactly why yurifags should be exiled to /u/.
A pairing so canon that one of them ended up raising the child version of the other.
>>143224679
I'm sorry to have contributed to it in any way.
Fat bird and Cloaca is pretty A+
These are exactly who you think they are. Love is beyond the limitations of sex. As the biscum maester race I can fully appreciate every combination of male and female. All you yuri is gay, all your yaoi is lesbian, all your het is switched.
There is no god here. Only shipping.
>>143200853
the anime is gud but my friend told me what happened in the manga so i kinda feel like crying
>>143223990
Yes crack kun~
>>143225195
Answer this please. What evidence or proof will it take to make you accept that you are wrong about this crack kun nonsense.
If the mods talking about banning shippers shitposters doesn't do it, if ten years of history on this site being against tumblr shipping nonsense doesn't prove it, if IRC logs showing the mods flat out saying it's more than one person doesn't prove it, what does.
What will make you accept that you are wrong? Because all of your behavior and spamming is based around attacking a person who does not exist.
>>143225392
>What will make you accept that you are wrong?
You can't, because they are the best couple~
>>143225585
Anon, please... the best couple is clearly pic related
>>143225585
You're such a scumbag. I didn't ask anything about the crack you spamming. I asked what would make you accept you are wrong about your paranoia boogieman.
>>143225585
>>143225733
Fuck off, asshole.
Both of these posts are clearly yourself. And you are just trying to make an excuse for yourself to spam crack even more.
>>143225733
Fuck you and the horse you rode in upon. Pink and blue are together forever.
>>143225585
>>143225835
>>143225751
>>143225315
>>143220943
Going to point out again how no one at all acts like you, ever.
Everyone hates you.
>>143225810
>n-o-t-h-i-n-g
>>143225819
Actually, I'm a different anon. Though, I will admit, I'm not taking this thread all that seriously.
>>143225910
Then you are admitting to having mental defects and being insane.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
>delusions are false beliefs that a person holds on to, without adequate evidence. It can be difficult to change the belief, even with evidence to the contrary.
This is exactly how you are behaving.
>>143225910
>>143225925
No, you are the same person. And you are a cancer. Fuck off already. No one likes you.
>>143225910
>>143225835
>>143225585
Why aren't you replying to >>143222232
Could it be because you know you can't prove that anything said there is wrong?
>>143226019
>arguing with a crazy person
>>143226033
But i wuv you.
>>143226125
Fuck off.
And you're not fooling anyone with your obvious try hard "different" posting style.
Again, no one else in the world acts like you. Which is why everyone can spot you from a mile away.
>>143226125
I have no other option. Because there is other way to stop you from ruining threads. The only option is to try and reason with you.
