Why in anime do characters usually skip the boyfriend girlfriend stage? It seems they they become friends and one of thems about to make a confession and instead of asking them out or even if they want to start dating they immediately go for "I love you" or "will you marry me" and it seems to catch me off guard every time. Is this normal?
>>143084173
Maybe they're not whores that aim to test drive other human beings.
>>143084173
Because dating makes them impure and otaku value purity.
>>143084173
I don't know, maybe it's a cultural difference?
>>143084173
you're superficial and you only know superficial people
thank me when you decide not to pull the trigger upon the acceptance stage after your grief
>>143084355
What did you even mean by this? Isn't dating considered normal around the world? You can't just always get married to the first girl that comes around anon.
>>143084173
This is a misunderstanding due to imperfect translation. That phrase is closer to "I like you" than "I love you". There's a different phrase for "I love you" in japanese.
>>143084173
but why would you date someone if you didn't love them senpai
>>143084631
Maybe they just think you're attractive but want to know if you have an attractive personality as well?
>>143084555
You wouldn't lie to all your pals on /a/ would you? Can you prove it?
I think is as Humans should start taking the study of anime love more serious. We don't even have a full understanding on how these 2d beings express their affection, even after all these years.
>>143084725
>us
>>143084173
The school backyard confessions you see on anime are usually translated as "I love you", that's the literal translation, but the actual meaning is closer to "I like you".
>>143084796
I want to believe you but you're going to have to throw down some proof anon. It's not that I don't trust you, I just don't trust anybody.
>>143084796
Even if what you say is true how would you explain the marry me part?
>>143084555
Regardless, Japs don't date much and usually marry much earlier than people in the West do based on just a few criteria like "has a job" rather than for compatibility between personalities. Even in the West though, there are only a few criteria for dating and it frequently amounts to a pre-mating ritual. Love is hard, and it's never depicted accurately in anime.
>>143084173
Recall that Japan didn't even have a word for love until contact with the West. It's a concept they view very differently and thus it's a concept they wield very differently. It seems strange to us because we would never think of it in the fashion they do.
>>143084845
> I just don't trust anybody.
>not even myself
>*unzips katana*
>*straps bandana*
>nuffin personnel, m'lad
>the paranoid me cries out in pain as I strike myself
>If you kill yourself, you winCURRENT YEAR
>>143084899
I wasn't talking about clannad, there was no middle ground there, when the retards finally realized they loved each other that was love love, not I like you love.
>>143084973
I'm inspired!
>>143084173
Because they're cartoons for children. If not, then they're cartoons for nerds and a lack of dating onscreen makes it easier for the watcher to think "she's saying I love you to ME, not the guy on the screen" which is why waifus stopped being ironic and started being sad
>>143084173
Cultural differences and translation.
I don't speak japanese, but Suki or daisuki or whatever the fuck it is used for romantic interest. There is nothing below or above that, except for some bumfuck author who wanted to make a word for a more romantic love which is where aishiteru comes from.
So I guess the best way to say it is that love is a flat rate that either exists or it doesn't and your actions within a relationship determine how deep in love/trusting you are with the partner. But as anime becomes more westernized/romanticized, 'aishiteru' comes up more often.
So basically, suki means love, aishiteru means holy god damn shit is real
>source: my ass
>>143085001
What the fuck are you talking about? Fuck right back off to whatever shithole site you came from
>>143085182
It's like 3 a.m. my dude you can't say you aren't here to shitpost too
>>143084173
Dating someone you aren't in love with or are forced to is only a wastern thing.
>>143085248
What anime girl do you love?
>>143084441
It's not like they didn't know each other
>>143084441
Why would you date someone if you don't plan on eventually marrying them?
>>143085248
No? Barely midnight where I'm from you nigger
Businesses are still running
>>143085365
For fun?
>>143085411
You can have fun dating someone while planning to marry them, marrying them, and then being married to them.
I remember playing Shuffle! Essence+ and being a bit surprised when Kareha asks her sister Tsubomi out on a date. It's pretty clear that she has no intention of courting her sister in hopes of marriage.
I think it's because the Japanese do not have a dating culture which is why they misuse the term. It may be something entirely foreign to them.
>>143085365
>Why would you have sex if not for reproduction?
>>143085274
Its still retarded to say it aloud,creepy even.
>>143085365
Most people do that. Then we have single moms and divorces due to the fact that dumbfucks marry so early. Love isnt a permament thing so novelty can wear off
>>143085497
The average anon has exactly as many children as they have had sex.
>>143085497
You can have sex for fun with your wife? Why would you want to have sex with someone who isn't your wife?
>>143085524
because sex is fun regardless of you paying your partners taxes or not
>>143085597
>fun
Terrible excuse.
- Dating game is entirely different in Japan.
- Many of these writers have little to no dating experience anyway.
- Purityfags would lose their mind because ironic to their "pure" state of mind the only thing they actually care about is the status of x character's pussy. Even the slightest hint of it being tainted results in burned manga and chopped sales.
>>143085628
Some people just don't value fidelity. It doesn't excuse them, but that's the reason.
>>143085628
>>143085664
>love is only real if I tell big daddy government
kek
>>143085660
>- Purityfags would lose their mind because ironic to their "pure" state of mind the only thing they actually care about is the status of x character's pussy. Even the slightest hint of it being tainted results in burned manga and chopped sales.
A lot of extremely popular girls are canon non virgins though.
>>143085696
>love
>real
>>143085696
Maybe in a first world country.
>>143085712
Specifically in the romance genre of anime/manga? I don't think so. The popular virgins are way higher in number. I can't even think of any popular non-virgins off the top of my head, who you got?
>>143085740
Saber.
>>143085763
She's pretty popular.
>>143085786
And a non virgin. Rin too. All eroge heroines to be exact.
Because nobody else can have sex with eachother unless I tell them it's ok to. If they do they're degenerate subhumans.
>>143085763
The fate series is an action, the romance literally only exists because Nasu and co. thought it wouldn't sell otherwise, it takes up less than 10% of the story and even that series is rampant with purityfags who prefer the all-age version specifically because they hate that sex exists anyway. Don't even get me started on the freak outs about Sakura.
Even if we counted Saber anyway (as she is insanely popular), she and any other popular non-virgin are a dot in an ocean of popular virgins. I love Saber, but I'm just sayin'.
>>143085884
The H scenes aside from having that hilarious translations is shit anyway
>>143084173
Unlike in the west where people usually ask a girl out and after a few dates will admit they like each other, people in Japan will admit they like each other and then start going out. Because in Japan the dating process is so front loaded, people have a very hard time making the first move which means more people are dissatisfied in their love live and have more regrets about not confessing to people. Overall, it's pretty retarded but it is Japanese culture.
Saber
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C3rQG5aFPoA
>>143085274
>forced to
That would be ghetto or middle east.
I think "dating" is only a thing in the U.S.
I mean, going out with someone you barely know in order to see if there is something special between both of you.
I don't think it's this way in yurop.
I've never experienced this anyway.
>>143085884
Even if you only count the all ages version, Saber still had sex with her wife in her lifetime. And I'm sure that there are pure romance eroge out there that have popular girls. Even in non eroge VN, like Rewrite, there is implied sex with Akane and she is still popular. You're saying that otaku would literally burn merchandise if a girl in something becomes a nonvirgin, but by that logic eroge wouldn't even exist because no one would buy it.
>>143086011
>I've never experienced this anyway.
--/a/
>>143086011
>I've never experienced this anyway.
You don't say.
>>143086011
I wouldn't consider it ghetto. I used to be normal in a lot of places, now it is in less places.
>>143084173
>I love you?
I-I love you too anon-kun! Let's get married!
>>143086425
At least you're willing to take responsibility.
>>143084555
Yeah, no. Don't pretend to be an expert when you clearly aren't. No respectable TL would translate that as "I like you".
>>143084911
Not strictly true, the reason for their declining population is because marriage rate, and hence birth rate, is low.
>>143086528
Yes, but I didn't mention marriage rates. Only that those that do get married do so very quickly.
>>143086469
I'll do my best for the one I love!
>>143086668
Which anime girl do you love?
>>143086688
Please don't turn this into a waifu thread.
>>143086688
Why, you of course anon~...
>>143086715
I'm impressed.
>>143085712
>canon non virgins
yeah fuck it
>>143086956
story
>>143087150
Main girl, Tamaki Saimon, in Kakyusei2 was a non virgin from biggining, so huge shitstorm happened. One of the player broke his disc and send it to the developer. Tamaki behaves like a bitch in real life. It's just out of place in dating sim. Interestingly, the writer of this title was a woman.
https://vndb.org/v1083
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E6%9F%B4%E9%96%80%E3%81%9F%E3%81%BE%E3%81%8D
