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Episode 11 is out.
>it's an autistic fits of incompetence episode
Will the Spee appear again?
>>143023418
>>it's an ___________ episode
Fuck off back to your board you cancerous crossboarder piece of shit.
Fucking newfag >>>/tv/
>>143023776
>it's an edgy contrarian post
>>143023519
It had to, Mii-chan must come back for her slave.
oh god, the forced drama, why the fuck every anime has a shitty forced drama episode near the fucking end?
>>143023915
Give me an example of non-forced drama.
The real question, will Munetani mom ship's crew be milfs? this is important.
>>143023776
You sound pooper peeved. Wanna talk to mommy about it? Ah boo-boo pee-pee
>>143023776
Wow
You now remember the submarine filled with stinky boys and that shadow we saw. Will it be forgotten because it meant nothing?
>>143024046
What shadow?
The submarine is irrelevant.
Period synchronization is a myth.
I'm amazed at how fast high school girls in fleet training can translate Morse.
Imagine the odor in the ship when all the girls' periods synch up, that and getting in the bath with your crew and see the water turn red real fast.
>>143023949
Drama induced by actual events happening on screen. For example, if at least one member of Mike's crew got hurt before this episode, Mike's break down now would feel more natural (in the sense of being a natural consequence of what came before in the show) and easier to relate to for the audience.
And I'll be the bread on which they'll spread themselves.
>>143024578
Oh you mean like Shiro almost drowning in a sinking ship?
Gotcha.
>>143024611
The bread is Mike.
>>143024483
>>143024628
And episode 9. Airbags won't save them if the Musashi lands a hit.
>>143024628
No I mean actually getting hurt. The Shiro thing was stupid since she went to rescue a cat and whatnot. There's no you could make the audience feel any sense of danger that way. And you can't make the audience get into Mike's fears if you can't even manage to make them feel any sense of danger.
In order for any drama not to feel "forced" you gotta make the audience feel invested in it.
ara, obake desu wa
>>143024770
Now you're grasping at straws.
>>143024813
It's the kind of stuff you'd find in any book or course on writing fiction.
>>143024628
You mean that time when there was no real sense of danger and a rescue team conveniently arrived at exactly the right time?
>>143024770
She was in danger of drowning to death. Going to save a cat doesn't change that. The show already makes you feel invested with the crew through all the SoL. It makes them feel like a real family.
>>143024611
Why does Mike get 2 girls after her?
>>143024900
>The show already makes you feel invested with the crew through all the SoL. It makes them feel like a real family.
It's an incredibly dull family where I can't tell apart 90% of the family members.
>>143024900
>The show already makes you feel invested with the crew through all the SoL
I mean invested in the situation, in the danger they're going through.
Honestly, I don't feel any sense of danger in this show. And I'm not the only one there. The series just doesn't convey the stakes properly.
>>143024578
>Mike's break down now would feel more natural
Mike break down makes sense if you remember that she said that no one got injured because of her luck. That's her problem more than people getting hurt on its own, it's the same doubts about her skills she had since the first episode.
The only thing that I felt the show was lacking was the fact that they never even try to get the audience invested in Moka, so Mike spending the whole show after her just feels really tiring.
Why did the blumers send 4 LCS against a BB on open water?
>>143024970
That's just you, I felt that many were memorable. For example, episode 10 made Maron very likable.
>>143025016
>she said that no one got injured because of her luck
Except that doesn't make sense because they didn't overcome just one situation. They got on top multiple times. If it's all luck, it's supernatural luck or something. Far from making Mike's fear relatable, that just makes the whole thing feel retarded.
>>143025003
>. The series just doesn't convey the stakes properly.
Because there are no stakes here. There never were for fuck sake, them making big issues out of the rice cooker being broken and the lack of toilet paper was supposed to tell you exactly that. Everything in this show is done to not give you the point of view of the girls but of someone who is looking at them and thinks what's happening is silly/dumb.
>>143025003
Just because you know they'll live doesn't mean there's no sense of danger. That's like saying capeshit movies have no sense of danger because you know the main characters aren't going to die.
>>143025194
>Because there are no stakes here
I agree. Which is why Mike's fears feel forced.
>>143024970
>Expected Panzshit
I was expecting Kancolle.
>>143025141
Bridge crew, doctor, Maron and trash are pretty much the only ones who've had any sort of characterisation.
>>143024643
Then can I be the ketchup and join in the fun?
>>143025101
Why did they fire ASROCs against a BB? Why did they shoot it with the Bofors that somehow has a lower rate of fire than the Musashi main battery? We will never know.
>>143024970
I don't know what they were thinking. Most characters get no screentime whatsoever while others are just spouting the same one-liners every episode.
>>143025162
Mike's lack of self-confidence makes her think it was all luck. There's also how the Musashi is in a totally different league compared to all the other ships they faced so far.
>>143025247
No, in her world there is danger and everything is serious. We know she is wrong but she thinks that there is real danger of someone dying.
>>143025162
No, she is competent (and lucky), but she THINKS it's all down to luck. She's in a spiral of self loathing and fear that started when she had to give up on the Musashi the first time and got worse when Shiro almost drowned.
>>143025210
>Just because you know they'll live doesn't mean there's no sense of danger.
Of course, but you can create plenty of sense of danger even if you know everyone's going to live. People actually getting hurt from time to time would help, for instance. Also, a bit of sol is okay, but the staff should be able to keep some sense of dread even during sol moments (look at Yuuki Yuuna beach episode for an example of this).
Execution plays a bit part here. It's not enough to tell the audience that something is dangerous. You've gotta make them feel it.
>>143025247
Their lives are at stake in addition to the lives on the Musashi and the people on land in danger of being bombarded.
>>143025426
>she is competent
>>143025494
Hey, she did get results.
>>143025299
That's already ten people. I think Macchi and Marikoji also got a good amount of characterization.
>>143025426
>No, in her world there is danger and everything is serious. We know she is wrong but she thinks that there is real danger of someone dying.
That's a writing issue right there. It's not enough that Mike is afraid for her crew. You gotta make the audience fear for them too. Otherwise there's like a disconnect between what the characters feel and what the series actually convey, and it shouldn't be like that.
>>143024578
>Drama induced by actual events happening on scree
Like fire command post (or whatever that was) being destroyed and its crew only surviving due to air bags, which probably wouldn't help in the slightest against direct hit from Musashi?
>>143025480
>Their lives are at stake
That's what they say. That danger isn't properly conveyed so.
>>143025453
People on the Harekaze got bruises and the ship took serious damage on episode 9. They should have put more serious wounds but people still have gotten hurt.
>>143025630
After all they went through, that alone is too little too late.
>>143025599
>Otherwise there's like a disconnect between what the characters feel and what the series actually convey, and it shouldn't be like that.
That's exactly what they wanted to do. They could have done 100 things to make us fear for them but instead they went out of their way to actually disconnect us from them.
If I have to guess what they wanted to achieve, it was the same thing GuP did (ie let you know nothing bad can happen to the girls) without taking the sports aspect. The only problem with this is that the anime went too fast and 12 episodes were not enough. I have no doubts they planned this to be a 24-26 episodes anime.
>>143025652
Because they haven't actually engaged the Musashi.
Why don't the sea sluts have any air power? You could literally just drop bombs on the battleship and it wouldn't be able to do anything with its primitive ww2 era aa guns.
>>143025940
Non-existent in this universe.
>>143025979
Then why do they have aa guns if planes don't exist?
>>143026058
Drones.
Helicopters.
>>143026083
Those didn't exist back in the ww2 days.
>>143026110
Maybe ww2 never happened in this universe.
>>143026142
In any case, there's no reason why they wouldn't be able to build planes if they have drones and helicopters.
Jesus fuck when are people going to die already
>>143026110
Balloons.
>>143026222
>>>/madoka/
Is this show worth watching, /a/?
>second to last episode
>still thinking this show attempts to convey a sense of danger
So many issues with this show and some people somehow pick a non-issue to complain about.
>>143026304
No, especially if you like GuP.
The whole show should have been like episode 10 and scrap the shitty military thing.
>>143026339
It's nothing like GuP anyway so what kind of statement is that
>>143026304
Do you like watching cute girls?
>>143026339
I like both.
>>143026339
I watched and liked GuP but I also like HaiFuri.
>>143026304
It's like a stupid cute girl. Appealing from the outside but kinda empty when you know her.
>>143026374
You already have a million high school sol shows to choose from.
>>143023818
>>143023965
>>143024042
Nice samefagging cancer.
>>143026573
There can never be too many shows about cute girls doing cute things.
>>143026339
I like both GuP and Haifuri
>>143025247
Not really. Remember, they are students who are not suppose to see actual combat and has yet to have their official training mission to get them accustomed to their ships. All things considered, this breakdown was a long time coming.
They are under-aged, under-prepared, under-powered, and under an obscene amount of pressure. I'll be more worried if they didn't have any sort of fear in them, especially since the enemy does not give a shit about killing other people.
>>143026573
You fucking retard. There are barely any. Retard.
>>143026573
Maybe play down the sol a bit. Remove the sillier jokes and make everyone a little more aware they're fighting "for real." Remember that ova about girl pilots from Shirobako? I think Haifuri would be way better if it had a similar vibe.
Are cute girls going to die in this show?
>>143026921
No.
>>143026220
Honestly, there are tons of reason why planes don't/shouldn't exist in this verse. I mean, if there have relatively little-to-no wars, then planes aren't a necessity, especially since they've switched over to a maritime-heavy society due to the whole tectonic situation.
![[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.56_[2016.06.11_18.23.01].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/VeoZzt8.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 10 [720p].mkv_snapshot_14.56_[2016.06.11_18.23.01].jpg")
>>143026855
You mean play up the SoL and give everyone better characterization, preferably dedicating an episode to each department or something. The cast feels like such a waste of potential.
>>143026921
No and hopefully never.
>>143026939
>>143026953
>>143027054
But I thought they were going to fight the Musashi?
>>143027053
>You mean play up the SoL and give everyone better characterization
>implying you can only develop characters during sol moments.
>>143026973
The rest of the world never sank and planes have huge relevance for civilian purposes as well, so no.
>>143024483
fuck you. i'm trying to eat
>>143026921
>die
The answer is always no.
>>143027094
>But I thought they were going to fight the Musashi?
They are. So?
![[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.16.38_[2016.06.18_19.22.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mhTn1ES.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.16.38_[2016.06.18_19.22.39].jpg")
Can't wait for mom time.
>>143025194
>Because there are no stakes here.
That's only what you assume because nothing has happened yet (and isn't likely to happen either because we know the nature of the show). For the characters who are getting bombarded by the Musashi, though, I'm fairly sure that they know that getting hit would fuck their shit up and that's why Mike is afraid. Why should they assume that they're in a cute cartoon world where nobody dies?
We also know that Mike is famous for being lucky, she even stated that the only reason why nothing bad has happened to them yet is pure chance. God damn it edgefags please stop being angry because these girls aren't dying or because there wasn't any deep plot about conspiracies and mutinies and try to enjoy the show for the cute girls and occasional naval combat that it's worth.
>>143027147
If that puts you off than you need to lurk another year or so.
>>143027150
Kisaragi died in KanColle, though.
>>143027179
>Can't wait for mom time.
>implying she's not getting late to the party.
>>143027194
I'd rather pretend that that show never existed. There was a cute OVA about the DesDiv6 and that was it.
>>143027117
It's appropriate for a cute and lighthearted show like this, and by all means it should still happen in the action scenes, but those tend to dedicate a lot of time to action.
If she believes luck has pushed her this far, why didn't she trust her luck and made plans accounting for it like pic related?
>>143027094
Yeah, they will during the first half of the episode, second half is onsen for everyone.
>>143027194
I'm strictly talking about Haifuri. After the first Musashi fight it solidified the fact that nobody was going to die.
>>143027179
Stakes in a fictional context aren't what you think they are.
>>143027313
Maybe it shouldn't be that light-hearted.
The "Moka has a dick" meme is now universal.
>Raw sex feels really good...
>It's okay, let all of your seeds out inside me...
>>143027578
Maybe you should've realized how lighthearted it was 10 episodes ago and get over it.
>>143027594
>Captain... What's wrong...?
>I don't know what to do
>When she sees your dick
>You'll never fill Mike with your mayonnaise
>>143027629
>I'm pregnant
>>143026058
Defense against torpedo boats and other small craft.
>Maron continues to be best girl
noice
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Why are torpedoes so awsome?
>>143028028
They're the great equalizing force for destroyers. If all Harekaze had was her 5-inchers, they'd be pretty much literally unable to do anything but knock out secondaries and kill people in the superstructure. Even with bulges, a torpedo is a credible threat to any vessel afloat.
>>143027137
Not really. Most of our shipping is still done with ships. Airplanes are mostly used for fast interpersonal traveling and against enemies. I mean, looking over at the news, what else besides military and tourism, are airplanes being used for? Speaking of which, airplane for traveling isn't actually very profitable as it's only the guaranteed airmail from the government postal services that's keeping it afloat.
In this verse, with seemingly very little battles and the rise of coastal cities, airplanes just doesn't seem like a necessity.
>>143028206
I've personally just figured that the alt-history of this whole thing is that people looked at airplanes and went 'I guess, that's safe enough to put bombs on but fuck putting humans on-board'. Like how airships basically died off.
>>143028332
The alt-history is that there is probably no world wars, and since they had somehow started methane gas mining so damn early, airplanes had probably took a back seat to ships and blimps due to the abundance of natural gases. If there's no enemies to be fought, then they have little reason to have airplanes since airplanes aren't very economical.
>>143028028
Not awesome in Haifuri. There's too much risk of actually killing someone.
>>143027688
Which of the girls got Mike pregnant?
Why do the Blue Mermaids exist?
If they're for sea rescue, why is the majority of the fleet composed of warships?
Why are most of these ships from WWII?
And why is the government funding mind-control experiments?
>>143026326
>>143026339
I call BS on this post
>>143028563
The first three questions were answered in the first two episodes. The last one was simply an experiment going horribly wrong.
>it was a dark conspiracy after all
>it was hamsters
The "muh political intrigue" crowd from teh first episode surely should be so confused tehi'd try to commit sudoku with a crosswords
>>143027179
>Can't wait for mom time.
What ship do you think she's gonna ride into battle with? She's in Yokosuka, and the only description given of the fleet she destroyed was 'armored'. If you're making a point to say that the ships are armored you're probably talking about turn-of-the-20th-century armored cruisers, so the single ship that could defeat a fleet of those would be...
>>143028797Shinano
>>143023310
>be me
>captaining destroyer
>bb is mutiny
>main guns won't penetrate
>torpedos have negligible effect if not to rudder/propulsion
The only option is clearly to use the ship as a weapon.
>implying you'll get close enough before the 18 inch guns hit you
>implying the secondaries won't also shred your ship
PLOT ARMOR™ will save me and my ship.
>>143025979
Really? I could swear they mentioned the Akagi in one episode, but if that's the case what's the point of CVs if there aren't any planes?
>>143025940
I think you underestimate 5 inch multipurpose guns my man.
>>143029150
She was laid down as a battlecruiser mate, and Kaga was laid down as a battleship. They even showed them still in those configurations in the show- presumably the Shinano would also have been completed as a battleship in this world too.
>>143029139
plor armor, more like plot airbags
>>143028206
>what else besides military and tourism, are airplanes being used for
All kinds of travel. I think the advantages of being able to travel long distances without spending multiple days or weeks should be pretty obvious to anyone.
On top of that we know that other countries like Korea are unaffected by this sinking business.
>>143029243
>I think you underestimate 5 inch multipurpose guns my man.
Is that why mighty Yamato died miserably after only being able to shoot down 10 slow ass prop planes with its amazing guns?
If there weren't wars in the Haifuri-verse, then why would battleships exist?
I mean, I don't think a 72 thousand tonnes ship with 9 type 94 is the most economical when compared to a cruise ship.
>>143029580
delete this
>>143029531
No, that's because IJN decided the yamato could hold an island by itself with no air support or other supporting craft to form an actual AA defense.
Also their radar was mediocre, nowhere near as advanced as US radar, which really helped with air defence, oddly enough.
A better argument would be that a jet wouldn't be flying low enough for the 5 inches to be a meaningful threat, much less the 40's, the 20's and the whatever the fuck mmg round the gooks used.
>>143029740
Can't they just send a b-52 and carpet bomb the shit out of musashi?
I doubt Musashi can take 30 tons of bombs.
>>143029150
>>143029265
Yeah, episode 6. "For 18 inches, you need 18 inches, eh?"
>proceeds to reference Yamato and Shinano as equivalent ships, so the latter's not a carrier.
Mentioned the Kii, which reinforces that the Washington Naval Treaty would have been a bit different or not existed at all
I could have fucking sworn they showed pictures of the battleships in dock but I can't find them now
>>143030195
>You'll never be that cat
I'll admit that I will shed manly tears when Mike and Moka hug next week
>>143030195
Oh boy
>>143029852
it'd be a waste. Most would miss, if any even hit.
If we're talking unguided.
If we're talking guided, just get a fucking multi-role jet to drop 2.
>>143030510
>it'd be a waste
That's not the point.
The point is to look cool.
>tfw you are being rescued by the blue mermaid """"""""""""""""professionals"""""""""""""""
>>143030605
I'd say a flight of F-2s with anti-ship missiles would look pretty cool, too.
>>143029139
>Implying she's not going to use the skippers like some sort of sea-version of airplanes and swarm the Musashi with superior quasi-carrier tactics.
>>143030671
>Implying she's not going to attach wings to skippers, invent airplanes and revolutionize her entire universe
>>143030650
Isn't that a Su-30?
Anyways, I can't disagree that a F-35 bombing the shit out of Musashi would be cool, but carpet bombing just gets me.
>>143030746
>Implying the Americans hasn't already done so, and is just waiting for the Japanese to ask for help so they can deliver FREEDOM at supersonic speeds
>>143030792
So what we thought was GuP with ships, was actually Zankyou no Terror with cute girls?
>>143030774
>confusing Su-27 derivatives with F-16 derivatives
>>143030640
I'd like to see you trying to do better
Talking is cheap, as Shiro discovered
>>143030640
>professionals
>wear tanuki ears
>>143030850
maybe I can't do better, but I'd bet at least 4 or 5 bucks that a ship full of fucking 13 year old girls could
>>143031014
>maybe I can't do better, but I'd bet at least 4 or 5 bucks that a ship full of fucking 13 year old girls could
As if. We've seen the quality of their gunnery skills.
>>143031065
>implying they won't save the day next week
>>143030671
>The hamstergirls have finally figured out how to use Musashi's secondary guns.
That boarding party would have gotten slaughtered if they'd been able to go for it.
>>143031119
>The hamstergirls have finally figured out how to use Musashi's secondary guns.
Yet, they'll somehow forget all about it next episode so Mike's girl can board the ship without trouble.
>>143030774
No, this is a Su-30.
Carbet bombing is great, but Japanese fighters with ASMs would be rather more appropriate, I think.
>>143031206
Oh, me. Because they totally are gonna try a conventional assault. Isn't as if they hadn't literally pointed out to Mike giving some crazy orders and the crew somehow managing to make them happen or anything.
>>143031206
>Implying Shiro's mom and Mi-chan won't screen the boarding parties with their own ships
>>143031331
Shiro's mom isn't getting there any time soon though. I bet she'll miss most of the action.
>>143031065
But Shima and Mei are amazing shooters.
>>143026304
I'm not sure I'd even recommend this as a cute girls show that just happens to have boats when there's a half-assed attempt at a serious plot. This show is just all over the place.
>>143031392
Bro, do you know where Yokosuka is?
Musashi is practically sailing to meet her
>>143031526
The Harekaze is right there besides Musashi. They'll board the damn thing before the old hag can even leave the dock.
Holy shit Maron is best girl re-confirmed
>>143027179
>Can't wait for mom time.
So are we getting a Musashi beat down with triple Munetani punch?
Wonder if the cutie from operation center would join in to give a quadruple Munetani punch?
>>143031119
>Implying guns can do anything against HAYAI.
Remember, these are just out of school students and under mind control. They've only managed to hit something moving after firing an obscene amount of time. Against something that fast and that small, those girls wouldn't be able to hit shit unless it's luck.
>>143032217
That's bullshit. Just a few episodes back, the characters on the Harekaze were surprised by how accurate the Musashi is, as the latter wrecked the male school's ships.
If they become stupid now, that's a plot inconstancy. That wouldn't surprise me though.
Why is Haifuri so good?
It is literally AOTY.
Hanayo is my waifu.
>>143032404
>Hanayo is my waifu.
The love live thread is to blocks down, anon.
>>143031206
Speaking of those, are they on remote control too? Because Tama manned a gun on the Harekaze physically while she was in hamster mode, and I the mermaids were more than happy to take largely-pointless-tactically potshots at the exposed superstructure.
>>143032381
The Musashi only managed direct hit after firing an obscene amount of times. As long as they keep firing in the general area, even a random shell will hit something. I mean, have the Musashi managed to land multiple hits on a single target yet?
>>143032489
Again, the girls were praising their accuracy, so I don't think it was just a case of firing whatever and getting lucky when you hit something.
>>143032637
That's more of a testament to the ship's firing system than to the girls' aim. It landed in the general area rather than somewhere else. A rifle in the hands of an amateur isn't going to hit shit, but it is still damn accurate.
>90-100 rounds left in Musashi's magazines
So that's between 30 and 33 three-gun salvos they'll all have to endure. They just might be able to exhaust that if they play their cards right and help arrives. I'm not sure that'd be particularly climactic, but whatever works.
>>143032776
If that what you want to believe, be my guest. But the girls were clear, Musashi's gunners are accurate, even if they're zombies. I just hope the writers remember that and keep things consistent.
>>143032948
Good gunnery in the main battery wouldn't necessarily correspond to the secondary armament, but it is a crew filled with the best of the school.
>>143030640
>""""""""""""""""professionals"""""""""""""""
Fuck off you cancer.
>>>/r/eddit
>>>/tv/
>>143033015
>sending people to reddit
>>>/pol/
>>143033087
>>143033293
Kindly fuck off.
>>143033293
>telling people to fuck off
>>>/a/
>>143033715
Kindly swallow my cum.
>>143034116
meant for
>>143033715
>how dare he interrupt my corssboarding shitpost!
What you do?
>>143025101
Because their main force was somewhere in the Philippines, they were the only ones in range.
A better question would be why the Harekaze, a pitiful DD, is engaging the BB while those modern LCS utterly failed to do anything.
Why did they replace the 10cm/65 twin mounts with 5"/38 single mounts?
The 5"/38 won't be any more effective against Musashi, and the 10cm/65 was an overall better gun for destroyers.
>>143034718
Take responsibility
>>143035705
>This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can
They're the only ones there. The only thing between one of the largest battleships ever built and thousands if not millions of lives. It's not really a choice at this point.
>>143035788
Better fire control probably?
>>143035788
Those are actually 5"/54 caliber.
>>143035864
Either way, I don't think that three 5"/54s are better than six 3.9"/65s.
>>143035960
Longer barrel, longer range, better accuracy, possibly a higher rate of fire. More lighter guns would be better for fighting smaller ships or saturating the superstructure, but that range in particular will probably help them out a ton.
>>143035960
The 5 inch is every way superior to the 10cm mounts in every regard by a large margin.
The most you'll get out of a 10cm mount is 15 -21 rounds per minute. A fully automated 5"/54 was designed with 40 rounds per minute. Derated to 28 RPM after 1968
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Forced and out of character.
Why do the Japanese have to dramatize everything?
>>143035788
>>143035960
Perhaps they were the only guns in stock when the Harekaze's turret was replaced. The replacement fire director might have also been specifically calibrated for the 5" instead of the 3.9" so they decided to just switch everything to 5" instead of having mismatched guns with differing performance..
>>143036117
In justification of ep 10, dramatic part is necessary I think.
So we can all agree that she's absolute best girl, right? It doesn't matter who your waifu is or anything
>>143036092
If those are 5"/54s, they're the Mark 16, not the Mark 42, which means you won't be seeing anywhere close to the same RoF as on modern ships.
>>143036117
>out of character
It was established a long time ago that she values the crew as family. Of course she'd be hesitant on sending them on a suicide mission.
>>143036092
>A fully automated 5"/54 was designed with 40 rounds per minute.
Except it's not the Mark 42 but the Mark 16.
The 10cm has higher muzzle velocity and ultimately more guns. On the other hand, the 5" has greater range, a far heavier projectile weight, and markedly better turret traverse.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_5-54_mk16.htm
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNJAP_39-65_t98.htm
Turret mounting information at the bottom of each page.
>>143036547
I was just about to go looking for that comparison, thanks matey. I'm betting on the range to be the ace of the guns, if nothing else.
>>143036547
Honestly the projectile weight won't matter against Musashi. There's nothing that a 5" shell will penetrate that a 3.9" shell won't also penetrate. The only real advantage the 5"/54 has is range.
>>143036547
I find comparing RoF in Haifuri a little bit odd considering every gun in here has an automated feeding system.
Why can't they enlist the help of Yamato?
Why can't they ram Musashi?
>>143036921
Currently in dock and not ready to depart
Bitch they just might, but that's a recipe for getting an 18" dicking from bow to stern
>>143036921
Why can't they use a fire ship?
>>143037081
Fucking this. Why cant they load some boat with gunpowder and then ram the shit out of Musashi with it. Then ignite the powder.
Haven't been annoyed this much by the main character since Madoka.
They will explain who made virus rat thing in epilog using text ala Xenogear disc 2 because time constraint.
>>143036640
Just to nitpick, the 10cm apparently only had HE shells, while the 5/54 at least had the option to use Semi-Armor Piercing shells, so it CAN matter. Will it make a difference in this show? No, I don't think so.
>>143036741
Yeah, it's pretty pointless. That said, the passage of time during the battles and the ranges at which they engage are all sorts of screwy in the how. It's really hard to tell how much of it is better equipment and how much of it is akin to GuP's 2x speed.
>>143036921
Ramming the Musashi would work as well as Glowworm trying to ram Admiral Hipper.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Glowworm_(H92)
>>143037140
I imagine the Musashi crew is more competent than the German garrison was at St. Nazaire.
Wish those rats made them horny instead of aggressive
>>143037140
I think he meant a firefighting ship
The ones that are literally designed to cover another ship in seawater.
That's not a bad idea t all really, though it wouldn't get to the crew in any enclosed spaces.
Also it would get shot.
>>143037352
Seawater only cures them if they were recently infected. These girls have been infected for a long ass time already
>>143037493
That was a theory because she wasn't sure yet.
They used fucking squirt guns to save the Spee, and she'd been infected before Musashi was.
>>143037292
>Just to nitpick, the 10cm apparently only had HE shells, while the 5/54 at least had the option to use Semi-Armor Piercing shells, so it CAN matter.
It really won't. Semi-AP won't penetrate anything on Musashi that HE won't also penetrate. HE will do more damage to exposed equipment though.
>>143032999
It's a crew filled with students. They have zero practical and actual ship experience.
So besides Mike's parents are the crew of that freighter the only other deaths in this show so far?
>>143037663
That doesn't seem to be a disadvantage for the Harekaze crew.
>>143036445
>So we can all agree that she's absolute best girl, right?
I think you posted the wrong picture
>>143037773
She's pretty good, and so is Tama, but Maron is just pure gold
>>143037771
The Harekaze crew has been learning and improving where as the mind-controlled people are still acting on instinct. The crew for the Musashi might have better hand-eye coordination as befitting of the supposed best of the best, but they are still kids playing in the proverbial pool where as everyone else has been learning from their past experiences and improving their skills.
>>143037663
>They have zero practical and actual ship experience.
They mention being trained in rescue drills in ep7, so they have at least some knowledge.
>>143037314
There's nothing saying that they aren't horny. They just haven't had any males around.
>>143037852
>The Harekaze crew has been learning and improving
The problem with this argument is that they have performed just fine since the beginning.
>>143037913
I was unaware they were able to shoot shells out of the skies in the first few episodes.
Has the image with everyone's names been posted? I always need it cause there are so many grills
HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE
HYPE FOR THE MIKE
MIKE MIKE MIKE MIKE MIKE
>>143037971
You can chalk that up to Tama's enhanced perception and Mike's supernatural luck. I doubt experience had anything to do with it.
What's with the cat ears?
She's a fucking adult
>>143038272
She is a mutant, no bully
>>143036117
I think Mike reaction was understandable, but I don't like the delivery. I think it might have been done way better. It feels kind of forced or something.
>>143038272
>cat ears have cat slilhuettes inside
2deep4me
I like loli doctor, just wanted you guys to now
>>143038272
They're ironic cat ears.
>>143037773
I'm not sure m8. I'll gladly impregnate her and take full responsability, but Maron is just too good.
>>143038272
That's air intake to cool off the main processor of her cyber brain.
>Blue Cunts' LCS can't do shit gets fucked up shows how grossly incompetent little girls are in combat
>Kuro somehow perfectly okay with Capt. Mike
>useless flashbacks when we already know what the fuck is happening
Fuck this last episode sucked.
![[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.18.53_[2016.06.18_19.25.28].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RKS2CoM.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 11 [720p].mkv_snapshot_00.18.53_[2016.06.18_19.25.28].jpg")
>>143036445
Even though we can't apply the shit-eating grin rule to this show due to there being so many occasions of them, her genki levels easily make her smile brighter than everyone else's, so yes.
>>143038556
>If only I could be so grossly incompetent...
>>143038633
Fuck off to /d/ with your sick fetishes
>>143038633
They seem to be able to wander the corridor as they please. I am assuming the infected girls are somewhat autonomous and unless Moeka starts messing with the ships function won't pay them no mind.
>>143038792
They barricaded themselves in the bridge and made sure they had supplies to last, yo.
Musashi's just got a fuckhuge bridge and flag quarters to boot.
![[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 11 [720p] (00:06:02.778) 0001.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5KtzKS6.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Haifuri - 11 [720p] (00:06:02.778) 0001.jpg")
The clicky computer sounds are so dated and cheesy, jesus.
They need to fire the sound director.
>>143038829
Never go to /g/.
Never.
>>>/g/55147777
is Moka the Ri-San?
was there a Megu-ne?
>>143038942
stop already
>>143038991
Mike is Megu-nee, Moka and others are just imaging her coming to the rescue
>>143038074
Or maybe they were training during the time they were travelling around. I mean, they weren't always having some sort of festival during all of this crisis.
>>143038272
It's a new hybrid to combat the rats infestation. They took all the research data from the rats project and used it to create these new humanoids that can act as a crew member in addition to being immune to and catching all those mind-controlling rats.
That or the captain had tricked her into thinking that wearing cat ears, and not the vaccine, that's makes them immune to the mind control.
I wanted this to be a good show, I really did.
But the directing is so bad.
We didn't see Moka for the whole season, and they decided to stuff Moka's POV for the whole season into 5 minutes in today's episode.
Mike was off character the whole episode. She was supposed to have overcome her worries and become a good captain, isn't she? Instead she moped the whole episode. They literally threw away the whole season's worth of development today.
Also, Harekaze was set up to be the ones to face off Musashi, but instead the older girls came in and did 75% of the work.
The show just runs on pep talks about "muh ocean famiry".
>>143039093
>Or maybe they were training during the time they were travelling around.
Before that point they were just running away since everyone wanted to blow the shit out of them. Then they were forgiven and given the mission of coming back to school right away, but when they were on their way they were given a new mission of checking on the Musashi. So really before that point they didn't have the time to train.
>>143039244
Moka's POV was unimportant. Five minutes were all that were needed. All she did was hang around the Musashi waiting to be rescued. The past season was more about Mike bonding with the rest of the crew to become a real family. Contrast her actions in episode 5 to this episode. The Musashi was way more powerful than the Hiei and facing it was effectively suicide. It's a totally different situation.
