I'm bored and figured we could have a Digimon thread. I got this idea from another board and thought I might bring some not so well known information both well known and not so well known in the process. For the sake the board, I won't include video games in this unless it's relevant with the anime.
So without further ado let's begin with the beginning. The very beginning.
The story of the Digital Monster has some of the most humblest of beginnings any franchise could have had. Tamagotchis were popular. Popular with girls. Bandai then decided to make the same for boys. The end.
Okay, there was a bit more to it than that, but the base concept of "Tamagotchi for boys" is essentially what kicked off the idea. The Digital Monster was born out of idea of the ever growing technological developments that were coming out of the mid-late 90s but the deeper outlook into that wouldn't come until much much later in the franchise. At it's core, the Digital Monster Virtual Pet, or V-Pet as it's known today was to feature cute monsters on a small screen, but eventually "evolved" to it's more harder and spikier look of it's monsters thanks to an influence of two factors, American design and one Kenji Watanabe,
Digimon as a franchise has no direct owner. There isn't a single man who came up with the idea or a coincidental meeting of two parties that usually comes with this kind of thing. It was a franchise truly and fully made by committe. However if there is one person to attribute to the creation of Digimon's "look" and modern iconography, it would be that of Kenji Watanabe, essentially the father of Digimon design. Watanabe was a big fan of American comic books and designed the idea of boys monster raising toy from something small and cute to something more big and cool. This led to the development of the first designed Digimon, no not Agumon, but Tyrannomon. (seen bottom right there on Watanabe's left)
Tyrannomon's general look and style essentially became the basis for what would become Digimon. Through his designs and the marketing of Bandai, Digimon was ready to be released to the world.
With the release of the Digital Monster V-Pet in June 1997, the serialization began of a promotional one-shot of a base concept of Digimon. This was the one-shot "C'mon Digimon: The capering monster BUN". This was actually the first introduction to Digimon in the public consciousness in a format other than toyetic. C'mon Digimon. It was first published in the '97 summer issue of Akamaru Jump along with other manga pilots at the time, one of them interestingly enough being the original one-shot of Naruto.
C'mon Digimon is VERY different from what would eventually come from the franchise. Even Digimon's origins showed a different face from what would come before and later much like the future animated entries. It was more typical to what would be considered a general "toyetic anime" today with a kid who gets a Digimon friend and fights against a bad guy who wants to defeat other Digimon.
Interestingly enough, despite being a one-shot, it has some of the emotional punching aspects that one would expect from a mainline series including a backstory for the main character, growing stronger from overcoming this and the general "bonding beats all" theme. It's an underrated story and any fan of Digimon should check it out just to see the humble beginnings of the story.
However, this would not be the last we saw of Digimon in manga and C'mon Digimon has far reaching aspects further in this franchise than you would expect
>>142816958
Please continue OP, I will be quietly lurking.
Following the release of one of the more final V-Pets as we knew them, serialization began on probably the most well-known Digimon manga, that being Digimon Adventure V-Tamer 01. It ran in V-Jump for quite a long time. It began in November 21, 1998 and ran for a grand total of 58 chapters.
The main draw to the series that surprises many latecomers and even older fans that don't know is that the protagonist of V-Tamer is the character Taichi, that's right, Taichi, the protag of Adventure....
Or is he. Yes, an interesting aspect of V-Tamer is that it unknowingly continued the trend of Digimon to mess with it's own continuity and do things not so much the same as before. In this very early case, the character Taichi is an average boy who is into V-Pets. He cannot play in the official tournament but challenges the winner of the tourney, a boy named Neo Saiba, and their battle ends in a tie, an impossible occurance - something that is supposed to be impossible. Later, Taichi is summoned to the Digital World by a digimon called Lord HolyAngemon, and there he meets, in his V-Pet, Zeromaru the Veedramon. Lord HolyAngemon asks for Taichi to recover the five Tamer Tags and save the Digital World from the evil Digimon of the series Demon
>>142817773
Thanks dude
V-Tamer 01, created by Hiroshi Izawa has a lot of unique elements to it separate from what would come later. For starters, the Digimon have actual names given by their Tamers. Another is that while other Digimon enter the show, they enter over time and not all at once like what would eventually happen in later series. Most notably is how Taichi has a Vdramon instead of an Agumon and also Taichi's cape, something that fans have desired to return in some form in the future in the franchise. It also had a crossover between protagonists way before it happened in Xros Wars: The Boy Hunters who Lept Through Time as well. An interesting aspect about Taichi is that he was influenced by design and personality by the protagonist of C'mon Digimon, Kamon Kentarou
V-Tamer is very influential for what would become the Adventure universe of Digimon and influences the ideals not just held up by Adventure but the franchise in general. Of course, there is that it introduced the iconic goggles, but there is a lot of action, drama, high amounts of silliness and swerving villains. It's generally considered to be the best Digimon manga.
But beneath the manga is what would become the true face of what would be the Digimon franchise
silently lurking as well
keep going OP
>Two children receive a strange egg that hatches into their very first Digimon, leading to the night that would change their lives forever.
With the rising success of the V-Tamer 01 manga and the growth of Digimon from small V-Pet to full on video games (Digital Monster Ver. S was released for the Sega Saturn in September '98 and Digimon World 1 in January '99. Yes, Digimon World is older than Adventure), the time came for Bandai to consider a larger animated production.
Digimon Adventure, both the movie and the series, were in production for a while. Adventure got it's start in the desire by Bandai to have an anime to advertise the V-Pet but needed an idea behind it to grow the franchise. The manga, V-Tamer 01 was the base in which would become the Adventure movie and series. The now-known director, Mamoru Hosada was selected to direct this project due to his unique style as an artist for Toei. The writer for the film was Reiko Yoshida who is well known for writing many Digimon movies, as well as some known anime, a notable recent example being Girls und Panzer
>>142818551
>Reiko Yoshida who is well known for writing many Digimon movies, as well as some known anime, a notable recent example being Girls und Panzer
Guess that explains the fun
With a director at the helm and a writer, the stage was set to release Digimon Adventure: The Movie, a sort of pilot episode to what would become the TV series but is seen as a prequel today. It premiered Mar 6, 1999 at the Spring Anime Fair alongside Dr. Slump: Arale's Surprising Burn and, interestingly enough, the Toei "Season 0" Yu-Gi-Oh movie (Digimon sure seems to get some good luck with premieres).
The film was notably a major success, garnering attention in the brand than it already had and perfectly paving the way for the TV series which was actually set to premiere literally the next day! In truth, this was actually sort of a major gamble for Bandai to have the advertisement for the series essentially be part of a movie, but it worked very well.
The film follows a very different Taichi Yagami and his sister Hikari Yagami as they find a Digitama in coming out of their father's computer. The egg eventually hatches and becomes a Botamon, later Koromon and eventually a (much bigger than the one we would know) Agumon. Agumon begins running through the streets until a Parrotmon hatches from a giant egg in the sky. Agumon after some cover evolves into Greymon and with the help of Hikari's whistle beats back Parrotmon but vanishes in the process. Along with those two, it is seen that 6 other children were watching the event and this sealed their fates.
Digimon Adventure was short but got the job done. At the time and to this day, the most praised aspect of the film was it's unique style of high quality animation which would eventually put Mamoru Hosada on the map. The interest was there and audiences were ready. The time had finally come for the TV series to be rolled out.
Digimon Adventure premiered one day after the film on March 7, 1999. The story is known. 7 kids, Taichi (Tai), Yamato(Matt), Sora, Koushiro(Izzy), Mimi, Jou and Yamato's brother Takeru(TK) (along with Hikari, Kari, who was sick and couldn't come at the time but joined later) are having fun at summer camp. Meanwhile crazy weather events are happening all over the world but the kids don't care until it starts snowing. The 7 of them eventually encounter small devices which later come to be known as Digivices, are instantly swept away by a tidal wave and are carried to the Digital World. They all encounter a Digimon "partner" and the adventure to find a way home begins. With many twists and turns along the way.
The anime was directed by Hiroyuki KakudÅ, the director of the first Yu-Gi-Oh anime and written by Satoru Nishizono. The artstyle for the kids was by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, notably the character designer of Dragon Ball, Z and GT which is only slightly apparent with close inspection. The series promoted the use of the "Digivice" V-Pet and became a notable success in the merchandise and TV ratings
Much thanks OP. Very cool. Also lurking
A few interesting factoids are that the idea of "evolving" was first initially used to supplant the Tamagotchis idea of "growing up" but following the movie, the idea of evolving became something more akin to becoming a giant monster in the vein of kaiju films. Hosada was a known fan of giant monster films which explains some of the choices made in the Adventure movie. This carried over into the anime series as the production wanted the fights to feel "important".
At the same time, this tied into the theme of the series of the human and monster being a team which became the basis for the notable character development the main cast go through over the series which has carried over to this day. Digimon became a very popular entry not just for younger viewers but notably appealed to older anime watchers as well due to it's depiction of serious issues and how children attempt to avoid or get past them
An interesting rumor that has never truly been confirmed, but would explain a lot of plot details, was that Adventure was initially scheduled to be 13 episodes but was extended to be twice that and then extended to past a full year due to success. Again, this has never been proven however it's a notable consideration
Digimon Adventure isn't the first to introduce the "goggle-head" but it did become the signiture item of the main characters in the series. Also introducing the lead fire Dgiimon, the "blue" rival, and the depiction of the evolutionary stages on the small screen.
Anyway, Adventure ran until March 26, 2000. With a merchandising machine this strong and an anime having notable popularity, the considerations for a sequel had been put in order but not before one more notable entry for Adventure.
>>142817124
>Tamagotchis were popular. Popular with girls
This is actually surprising for me. When tamagotchis were popular in my elementary, it seems like both genders like it equally.
>>142819346
Probably talking about in Japan specifically
Something I really forgot to mention was the extremely quick turnaround in dubbing for Digimon Adventure. Adventure premiered in Japan in March of 1999 and premiered in America just 5 months later in August. It's widely believed that Fox Kids wanted their own show to compete with 4Kids' rising Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh franchises and believed Digimon to be it. They worked very aggressively to have the rights and have a close release which continued through to Frontier
To date, Digimon Adventure is among the quickest a Toei anime series was dubbed in English. It's especially notable because of how notorious Toei would be in regards to having licenses be sent overseas
>>142818190
>>142819252
>V-Tamer started before Digimon Adventure
Wow, didn't know that! Thanks, anon.
But wait, didn't Ryo (the one with Cyberdramon) makes an appearance? That's very early appearance, considering Tamer was what, 2001?
>>142817931
i remember how much i loved V-Tamer 01 the first time i saw it
Okay so, you have a merchandising line, a popular anime and a known name on two sides of the globe. What do you do next? Yeah of course, a movie
But Our War Game wasn't just any movie
Bokura no War Game is a very important entry for the Digimon franchise as it essentially kickstarted a lot of careers at once as well as became THE reason a sequel was considered viable (though they were already in production of it midway through Adventure). Once again, directed by Mamoru Hosada and written by Reiko Yoshida, this movie essentially put the two of them on the Japanese animation map for good and essentially proved that Digimon Adventure The Movie was not an accident.
Released in March 4, 2000, the story is actually set after the events of the series even though the series hadn't been finished at the time. A rogue Digimon rapidly begins consuming data and evolves into Diablomon eventually becoming so powerful he threatens to launch missles at any point in the worldMetal Gear?!The film follows Taichi and Koushiro with Yamato and Takeru joining in later struggling to fight against the monster, trying to reach their friends and essentially saving the world
>>142819495
Ryo is originally from the Wonderswan games. His entry in V-Tamer and Tamers is considered fanservice and justified by dimensional shenanigans
>>142819692
>Ryo is originally from the Wonderswan games
I hope you'll be covering the games, or at least a quick history of Ryo once he had his 'proper' appearance in Tamers.
>>142819495
Ryo's appearance in V-Tamer was in 2002, after his debut in Tamers.
V-Tamer was a very long running series. It started before Adventure and ended after Frontier.
The film was inspired by the 1983 film WarGames ("A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?" Love that movie). It features the kids fighting against a super electronic threat that threatens to blow up stuff and only the children have the means to stop it.
Our War Game is infamous for being haphazardly cut into "Digimon The Movie" the American release which consisted of Digimon Adventure, Our War Game and the very first 02 film. As they were three separate movies, trying to tie them into one plotline created a few plot holes and story writearounds that are infamous today.
Another infamous aspect is the dialogue of the film regarding certain characters' romantic aspirations on both sides of the seaboard. In an interview from years after the film, Hosada directed Our War Game with the belief that Taichi and Sora were to eventually become a couple in the sequel. Which created some notable discrepancies. On the flipside, certain lines of dialogue were changed in the traditional dubbing fashion but also to put certain things in the movie in a slightly more relationship'ed lightseriously fuck you Nimoy
Our War Game also introduces Jogress for the first time, the official term for Digimon fusing into one. WarGreymon and MetalGarurumon, the final forms of Agumon and Gabumon Jogress into Omegamon, the event of which would go on to create many larger aspects to the lore and to future elements of the series which can still be felt today.
The movie was a great success and is still considered among the best of the movies. So with the movie finishing it's run, it was time for the next installment. An "interesting" story to say the least
And I suppose it should be mentioned, Hosada did direct Summer Wars. If you didn't know that already, you probably get why they feel so similar now
>>142819773
I think I'm gonna need to do a whole separate part on Ryo, fucking hell that guy
>>142820002
>It started before Adventure and ended after Frontier.
Oh, when he said 58 chapters, I assumed it was weekly.
>>142820015
>Our War Game also introduces Jogress for the first time
The concept maybe. When the writers officially introduces Jogress, they go out of their way to exclude Omegamon as one to make it more special.
>>142820015
>spoilerWhat did Nimoy do? I avoided digimon shipping like a plague
>>142820149
Seems like he played up a lot of Taichi and Sora ship tease that wasn't really there in the Japanese version.
In short, Ryo was chosen by a multi-dimensional Digimon god to be his Tamer. So if you see him everywhere, don't be surprise
>>142820149
Nimoy loves shipping.
>>142820229
that sound mary sue as shit
>>142820232
so do the fans so I guess its okay? After all
growing up is part of the whole digimon thing
>>142820232
>Mimi/Joe
Too bad Tri sunk that one.
Digimon Adventure 02 is the direct sequel to Digimon Adventure. Premiering April 2, 2000, it began right after Adventure finished and took place 3 years after it's predecessor.
Three years after the events chronicled in Digimon Adventure, the Digital World is in trouble again. But this time, its source of trouble is not an evil Digimon but rather a human boy who wishes to take over the Digital World in some kind of game. Three new Chosen Children, along with veteran Chosen Takeru and Hikari, are called to save the Digital World from this threat using new forms of evolution, trying to live a normal life in the Real World at the same time. Eventually the story takes a far darker and more complicated turn as certain truths become known and things do not appear as they seem under the surface
02 was once again directed by Hiroyuki KakudÅ but was not written by Nishizono. In fact, in a very interesting note regarding staffing, 02 unusually had two writers, Atsushi Maekawa and Genki Yoshimura as well as way more screenwriters than Adventure. The name of the game regarding merch was the D3 Digivice V-Pet as well as the D-Pad which resembled the Wonderswan gaming device
>>142820149
He was notable for adding much more dialogue to Adventure and 02 to put things in a more relationship context than in the original dialogue, infamously the "You've really grown up" scene in 02
>>142820253
>so do the fans so I guess its okay?
Not when you go out of your way and edit things for your ship.
>>142820267
>D3 Digivice V-Pet as well as the D-Pad which resembled the Wonderswan gaming device
Hah.
>>142820015
to explain Ryo, you would need to go into games right?
>>142820262
Wait, really? Oh man, I liked that.
Digimon Adventure 02 structurally is a very different series than Adventure. It is a more episodic series and feels more like a story of balancing fighting and daily life. Over time the story becomes very complicated with a multitude of subplots, much more than in Adventure. One of which is regarding the character of Ken Ichijouji who goes through a notable character arc over the course of the show.
02 is a very complicated series on both sides of the ocean. 02 started with comparable ratings with it's predecessor but 23% less of the broadcast episodes made the top 10, though the episodes that did make it had roughly the same viewership average. Notable holes in the top 10 include most of the end of the Digimon Kaiser arc (ep19-23) and most of the BlackWarGreymon arc, all of the World Tour arc and some of the generic battles (ep29-32,34-44,46-47). On the flipside, in the West it's very notorious for it's epilogue and final episode in general due to its content.
It's very widely believed that Toei were very aware that they would need to start with a new series so they wanted to create a sense of finality to the Adventure universe.
On another note, 02 was when the late Wada Kouji became officially considered as the fan term of "Digital Music King" as following the extremely well-recieved song "Butter-fly" and "Seven", he was brought on again to sing the opening song for 02 "Target ~Akai ShÅgeki~".
>>142820471
Yes
02 was also followed with the sound novels Digimon Adventure 02: Armor Evolution to the Unknown, Digimon Adventure 02 Drama CD: The Door to Summer (pic related), and Digimon Adventure 02 Original Story: 2003 -Spring-. The Door to Summer is especially known for being particularly tragic for Daisuke and features Willis
02 came and went. The Adventure universe was no longer touched as part of the series until many years later. That said, there is one more entry to Digimon that should be brought up in regards to 02.
(Gonna take a quick break see you in about half an hour)
>>142820613
It's weird since they're laying on the Mimi/Koushirou ship tease, but the 02 finale sunk that, too.
>>142820629
>On the flipside, in the West it's very notorious for it's epilogue and final episode in general due to its content
What are the reactions to the epilogue in the East?
>>142820651RIP natchan ;_;
>>142820665
02 finale is just sinking of all ships except for Ken/Yolei. Tri is just playing with shippers' hearts.
>>142820629
Basically 02 is shit
I wanna fuck renamon
>>142820813
Now that I think about it, didn't Ken/Yolei happen because their Japanese VAs get along really well?
>>142816958
Good thread, OP.
>>142820651
Why did you make post solely for the 02 CD dramas but never mention the Adventure ones or novel?
>>142820674
>What are the reactions to the epilogue in the East?
From what I remember, there isn't much of one. But I know what the general reaction to 02 is in the East, if that popularity poll with nobody picking 02 characters was anything to go by
>>142821232
Given that Tri killed them off in a montage at the start of the series then inserted a Yoko clone anyways makes me suspicious.
>>142817124
Nowadays I swear they just kind of look like mecha creatures
>>142821352
go back to watching your faggot kid and his retarded sparkling rodent suffer from sudden amnesia every other month and fail at everything they do
>>142820674
They didn't care much. They didn't get vocally upset but they didn't get overjoyed either.
>Well this happened and is canon. Ok.
>>142821391
>Nowadays I swear they just kind of look like mecha creatures
Completely intentional
>>142821481
>>142820409
This is a D-Pad, which is the item resembling the Wonderswan.
Also OP is my hero. I've repurchased my favorite digivice from my childhood and it's arriving tomorrow, so I'm amped to read through this thread right now.
>>142820015
>Our War Game is infamous for being haphazardly cut into "Digimon The Movie" the American release which consisted of Digimon Adventure, Our War Game and the very first 02 film. As they were three separate movies, trying to tie them into one plotline created a few plot holes and story writearounds that are infamous today.
as a on american fan who never watched this movie but watched the three movies properly dubbed from japanese, can you elaborate about those plotholes?
i love those american plots gimmicks a là Robotech
I want a pokemon v. digimon crossover where Ash just throws a pokeball at a digimon and it doesn't know what the fuck is going on so it gets caught.
Then they have to team up with Ash throwing the ball and the tamer doing the evolutions to win.
>>142821602
>D-Pad
You mean D-Terminal.
Digimon is dead and buried because it was shit
>>142817124
>American design
Citation needed.
>>142821659
>dead and burried
>still creating new shows and merchandise
OK. In that regard, Pokemon is dead too.
>>142820356
What does this say?
>>142821859
>Tachikawa
>Keisuke
>Satoe
>Mimi
It is Mimi's family name plate.
>>142817283
>That RustTyranomon
So fucking cool, he needs to make more Digimon
But who is the yellow digimon above the Rusttyranomon's sheet?
>>142821919
>>142821859
If I recall this plate name also in Adventure TV.
Okay I'm back
I wanted to mention the two 02 movies as they are slightly of importantance. The first movie was Digimon Adventure 02: Hurricane Touchdown Transcendent Evolution!! The Golden Digimentals. It followed the story of the 02 children vacationing in America meeting another child named Wallace (I called him Willis earlier, I'm so sorry) who is on the run from a Wendimon/Andiramon/Cherubimon as it evolves. Wallace has a strange connection to this Digimon as it is revealed it was once Chocomon and was twins with another of his Digimon. The children have to help Wallace escape and defeat Cherubimon. As a side plot the older Adventure children are caught in a dimensional prison and slowly are changed into children until they vanish, though the 02 kids don't know about this.
>>142821121
I totally forgot. There was some other stuff I meant to say about AiM and Ayumi Miyazaki that I forgot too. I'll do some extra at the end.
>>142821352
t. Pokefaggot
>>142822038
>I wanted to mention the two 02 movies as they are slightly of importantance
That's a laugh.
The movie notably introduces the Golden Digimentals which show up in the TV series as a tie-in to the eventual movie. Hurricane Touchdown is again infamous in the dub for being halfhazardly thrown in with the previous Adventure movies into one film in the American dub, notably the subplot with Wallace carries through all three films even though they didn't. A major issue with this comes from how the flashback of Wallace as a child has nothing to do with Diablomon but it appears as if he is taking over his Chocomon which would cause some confusion considering the second 02 movie, Revenge of Diabolomon which introduces Imperialdramon: Paladin Mode and Diabolomon's further Evolution, Armageddmon. Another strange change was the removal of the entire subplot with the Adventure kids, most likely cut for time constraints.
Another strange plothole from tying the movie together is that we see that Daisuke, Miyako and iori witnessed the Diaboromon event during Our War Game but didn't recognize Digimon both in the show or this movie with the dub indicating there was a virus, though given that 02 had an issue with the fact that nobody seemed to remember Digimon as a whole, this could just be an issue with 02's many problems in general
So 02 has come and went. It was an interesting ride but was an indication of the need for new blood in the franchise. And deep in the shadows of 02's writing staff, one man was coming forward to be the driving force of one of the most well known Digimon series
>>142821621
Wish granted
>>142821678
American comic books, see the thing about Watanabe
>>142821996
Different one.
>>142821621
An American Chosen Child named Wallace (JP)/Willis (ENG) ended up with two Digimon partners for some reason. In the Japanese version, he had no connection to Our War Game, but in the English version, he apparently tried to create more Digimon, and the one he tried to make turned into Kuramon, who became Diablomom. This somehow corrupted one of his actual Digimon, Kokomon.
I can't wait until OP touches on Frontier. I'm the only person in the entire world who really liked Frontier.
I remember coming from the movie theater absolutely pumped after our war game.
Good times.
Just post all this in a pastebin and link it
>>142822038
I remember how popular Kids in America was.
>>142822209
Stop being a buzzkill
>>142822193
I liked it okay.
>>142822193
Sell it to me anons. What can I compare it to?
>>142819414
>To date, Digimon Adventure is among the quickest a Toei anime series was dubbed in English
Wow, this is pretty interesting.
>>142822303
Sorry anon? I am not sure what I did.
>>142822326
Power rangers
>>142822364
Lighting rescue?
Also that is not a very good sale.
>>142822326
Digimon without partners. Unfortunately cut short due to poor reception.
I personally loved that they integrated a lot of the lore surrounding the 10 Legendary Warriors into the show, moreso than any other digimon series.
>>142822407
Ahh thanks anon!
>>142822399
Sorry is the best I can do, I thought it was terrible.
It even has the classic green ranger story where he is evil and then he is good
>>142822119
thanks a lot for the deliver OP
why american companies do shit like that? i never can come op with those kind of localization and OST replacement they usually do
keep doing Gods work OP, feels good having a comfy thread like this
Ill keep silently lurking, as I stated in my first reply
>>142821121
Many "Adventure" drama cds were actually released post 02.
>>142820674
Confusion, but still acceptance. They did ask why certain couples (which pissed off Kakudou) and careers were chosen.
Fun fact none of the canon ever polled it into the top ten couples of either season for the Nips.
>>142822443
So did 02 and Data Squad. It's a common trope in shonen superhero shows.
>>142822479
But here is done 1:1
>>142822505
Yep, just like 02. And Data Squad.
>>142822596
Nope.
>
The past animated series' anthropomorphized digimon had the effect of being loved by children and gaining much popularity. However, if this double-edged trend continues, the monster-like spirit of Digimon (who evolve in order to fight) will be lessened, and the catharsis gained from the battle will be harder to gain.
>In this third series, I would like to rethink what it is to be a digimon, and continue only the good traditions started in the previous series.
-Chiaki J. Konaka
The idea of the Digimon entries doing something different had been around since the beginning of the franchise but in the world of the TV anime, the idea of a singular continuity was solely thought to be to Adventure. There were two entries, two shows and one was a sequel to another.
Then everything changed when the Konaka attacked.
Before we begin the story of Tamers, it's very important that the writer, Konaka, be understood for his role in the production process because without him, Tamers would not be the way that it is. Chiaki J. Konaka is was a known writer in the anime industry before he worked on Tamers. His credits included the OVA of Birdy the Mighty, The Big O and most importantly, Serial Experiments Lain. Lain especially was a big driving force in his development of Digimon Tamers. Also, Texhnolyze.
Konaka's much more famously, or perhaps infamously known for writing episode 13 of Digimon Adventure 02 in which Hikari is called to the Dark Ocean by Dagomon and his minions. The episode is very dark for Digimon standards and quite creepy at that as well. Anybody who has watched that episode knows how odd it fits in with the rest of 02 especially since the Dark Ocean is only brought up again once later and not nearly it's effect.
So as you can see already, Tamers was already being made by a man who from inception was quite an odd, yet perfect, addition to have on this franchise at the time.
>>142822407
>Unfortunately cut short
It didn't get cut short it ran a full year
>>142822647
I thought Frontier was slated to have a few more episodes than the number that actually aired. Then again, this is something Jr. High me remembers, and I definitely trust you, Mr. OP, over Jr. High me.
>>142822193
I liked it too, I was surprised to find out it was apparently very disliked
>>142822647
post the site where you are stealing this already
>>142822777
Frontier was garbage compared to tamers that's why
>>142822844
Compared to everything
>>142822844
Hunters is worse
Wow, a good digimon thread.
>>142822884
I liked Xros Wars. Never saw the dub though.
>>142822844
Yes, I think the fact that it followed Tamers was a big reason it flopped. It was a throwback to a more lighthearted digimon series.
>>142822900
A fag dumping pasta is not a good thread
Tamers came into play to explore the idea of the "real world". It was important that the "real world" be explored as a contrast to the previous series having a focus on the Digital World. He wanted to "Realize" the outlook of the 2001 digital community in the face of how it could be used with the concept of Digimon
To give some ideas of how detailed Konaka planned Tamers even early on, here are some of his key points for the show's development
- The Children are the ones who Choose
- The Special Quality of Digimon
- Is Adventure The Same As Battle
- In The Beginning, This Is Not A Group Drama
- A Battle That Is Not By Proxy -- Union Through Mega Form
Konaka was very particular about details that would seem as simple things in Tamers. Thinks like showing the Digimon data in real-time, the cards growing from fun things to super important, even the personalities of the DIgimon being distinctive from the humans were planned out.
The humans were ready, the Digimon were ready, the story was more than ready and Kouji was on for another set of songs. 02 had ended. Tamers was ready to roll
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>>142822932
I'm actually not copying anything. I'm using a bunch of different sources but most of this comes from my own knowledge
>>142822925
Xros Wars was fine until they changed the MC.
>>142816958
Good thread anon. Thank you
We need more threads like this on /a/
>>142822969
A least that MC didn't steal the goggles until he earned it.
>>142822964
At least make a pastebin when you are done
>>142822932
Go back to one of your generals
>>142822932
There's no fag here but you.
>>142822969
Xros Wars was fine until they did a 180 with the formula. And it was still better than 02.
FTFY
>>142823076
Nah, the show suffered way too much from overspecializing the heroic group to just Shoutmon and Taiki being 90% of the show and everyone else accessories and the Death Generals arc was a mess. Young Hunters was just pissing on the grave.
>>142823157
Generals arc was acceptable, Hunters destroyed earlier character development
>>142822775
That's like believing Adventure was originally planned for 13 episodes but was extended when the show received high ratings.
>>142823209
>Hunters destroyed earlier character development
No it didn't, it shifted the focus away from what the previous seasons were doing, which is completely different.
Digimon Tamers is set in a new continuity. Premiering right after 02's conclusion on April 1, 2001.
Takato Matsuda is an ordinary kid who is a big fan of the Digimon franchise and the Card Game. One day, a strange blue card transforms his card reader into a Digivice, which in turn brings a Digimon of Takato's own creation to life: Guilmon. However hostile Digimon are appearing in the real world to wreak havoc and Takato falls in trying to stop them. Along with this are other humans like Jianlee who sees his Digimon as a pet and Ruki who believes Digimon are only for battle. Their ideals clash on the cusp of a mysterious organization of humans with questionable goals along with an underlying threat that could swallow both worlds whole. And above all this, what does the relationship between Takato and Guilmon truly mean? What does it mean to become a Tamer?Can he be the biggest dreamer, zensokuryoku de
Directed by Yukio Kaizawa but truly helmed by Konaka. The name of the game, this time is the D-Arc Digivice and the Cards which are used to perform a Card Slash which boost the Digimon with new abilities to help them evolve.SLASH THE LIFE
>>142823157
Eh, Generals was alright. Not great but it wasn't the worst thing ever.
>>142820002
>V-Tamer started before Adventure and ended after Frontier
>58 chapters
>almost 5 years
>>142823157
But Death General is the best arc on Xros Wars.
>>142823514
I agree.
Digimon Tamers recieved some criticism on both sides of the sea for whether or not it was truly aimed at a children's audience especially as it grew deeper into it's story. It was filled with much discussion of technology and aspects of existence far greater than the character of BlackWarGreymon in 02. During it's intial run and even a few years after, it was criticized by the fans for being the first "AU Digimon" and not being connected to the previous series at all though over time, this has significantly lessened.
An interesting trait of Tamers is that it truly begins the running "joke" of a Leomon dying in every series. It begins in Adventure and there is a side Leomon that is defeated in 02 but the tragic fall of Leomon in Tamers is where the running moment clearly begins to take form
One of the biggest aspects of Tamers which comes late in the story is the introduction of Ryo. Ryo Akiyama is a protagonist of the Wonderswan series of Digimon games and due to certain events in those games, he can travel through space and time and appear in other series, notably Tamers (though in a flashback sequence in 02, he is there too but it won't be understood if you haven't played the games). Ryo is a tricky subject due to his very late addition to the story.
Regarding Ryo by Konaka himself
>This is a character well-known among the child audience, so introduce him as a "very talented digimon tamer" after the mid-point of the series, as a repeated guest character.
>Different from the game, Ryo's priority as a TV series character must be heightened, and he must be given his own Partner Digimon. The digimon's power, strength, and heroism should make Ryo all the more attractive.
Ryo is widely considered to be one of the few actual negative aspects of Tamers and is no longer the sort of icon he once was in the franchise but at the time he served as a fun bit of fanservice. Unfortunately, this did not carry over the West as no other country had received the Wonderswan
>>142823328CAADU SRASHU
Are you going to talk about how the western fanbase are a bunch of nostalgiafaggots obsessed with adventure?
>>142823621
I'm sure that will come up once OP goes into the changing of English dub licensees.
>>142820356
>>142822145
They're so adorable.
>>142823224
When you look back, it does makes sense though. ultimately killing off Angemon with Devimon seems like a good way to end the cour.
>>142823705
>Adult levels
>>142823621
Tamerfag is just shonenshit fags. Both of them are literal retards.
>>142822964
What is Konaka's recent work?
I would watch/read it, it seems he knows his shit.
>>142820629
>On another note, 02 was when the late Wada Kouji became officially considered as the fan term of "Digital Music King" as following the extremely well-recieved song "Butter-fly" and "Seven", he was brought on again to sing the opening song for 02 "Target ~Akai ShÅgeki~".
Good night sweet prince. Listening to his songs for digimon is always a delight.
>>142823497
VJump is a monthly magazine.
>>142823705
I guess. But once you read that Adventure was in development since 1998 and there was no hiatus to produce more episodes, the theory kind of falls apart.
>>142821352
I love you too.
>>142821659
Oh you.
Despite some negative aspects, Tamers enjoyed decent ratings during it's run. While it's average was not as high as 02, it was far more consistent did somewhat better than 02, with 6% more episodes in the top 10. It saw about a 1% falter in viewership in it's top 10 episodes against other seasons. Some of the more sizable holes are mostly in areas where it was generic fighting of Devas in the digital world, though these included episodes with Ryo's introduction and Beelzebumon's introduction (ep28-31), and the end of the D-Reaper battles, it was pretty much a skip every other episode type thing (ep41-51).
Tamers has become widely celebrated as a season full of a good blend of light and dark aspects. The research done to bring it's story to life and use of technology is still applicable to today. It's characters are known for each of them having a character arc with some much more than others and a known anti-hero in BeelzemonKonaka did a lot of real life inspiration similar to that of Adventure Takato's school and Hypnos for example are real world locations
Also, just as a fun fact, what is known as the much loved Digimon Rumble Arena in the West for the PS1 was actually a Tamers game called Digimon Tamers: Battle Evolution
>>142823692
I'll cover that but I don't think I'll go into the fanbase that much
>>142823705
>>142823732
>>142823770
I read some tweet from Kakidou, he said Digimon was planned to end in Etemon arc. But later higher position asked him to animate more and added Hikari as Heroine.
It was also planned to end in Dark Master arc, but due to good rating, higher position asked him to make infamous 02.
02 epilogue was originally for adventure.
>>142822119
>this could just be an issue with 02's many problems in general
02 literally starts while taking Adventure, OWG and the Wonderswan games into its canon, the thing was just a writing mess from the very beginning.
>>142823621
Speaking as part of that western fanbase, I personally prefer Tamers over Adventure.
Though part of that might be a bit of fatigue from marathoning all of Adventure in three days recentlyBrave Heart gets mildly irritating when you hear it in every single goddamn episode at the climaxand currently working my way through Tamers right now. But I think the writing is better, the characters more endearingthough I think Hirokazu and Kenta are rather pointless in the grand scheme of thingsand the music better in general.
So whats the source? How do I know this guy is not making it all up
>>142824001
Same thing
Its always adventure or tamers, same cancer.
Tamers had two movies, Battle of Adventurers and Runaway Locomon. Neither have the sort of accolades or effect of the previous Digimon films but Locomon is known for it's focus on Ruki and being sort of "ending" to the series.
However on that note, Tamers also had a drama CD called Digimon Tamers Original Story: Message in the Packet. It is considered the "true" epilogue to Digimon Tamers as it was written by Konaka himself. In it, the children write digital letters to their disappeared Digimon friends as the hole that leads to the Digital World is going to be sealed off. However they do not know if the letters will reach them. However they decided to believe that it will anyway. A bittersweet ending for sure
So with that, the Tamers world came to an end with a sense of finality. Konaka hasn't expressed any particular interest in returning to the franchise and the children have only appeared in crossovers since. That being said, Tamers was done but the franchise wasn't.It got close though
>>142823736
>What is Konaka's recent work?
Still trying to get Despera made. His most recent completed work was Ghost Hound
>>142824060
>Neither have the sort of accolades or effect of the previous Digimon films
At least a human character introduced in a movie reappears later in the show.
Can't say that for any other Digimon movie.
>>142817124
Damn I missed that shit.
Is the new incarnation worth it?
>>142823732
In the early digimon virtual pet device, Perfect is the highest level you can get,which are MetalGreymon, Monzaemon or Mamemon.
>>142823770
The project was a stake, if what OP mentioned is true at all. Producing a 13 episodes series would take roughly a year back in those days. Toei only started going digital during Tamer's production. During the first cour run, the committee probably still working on the next 2 cours.
>>142824153
There is no new incarnation.
>>142824183
>Toei only started going digital during Tamer's production.
Adventure was pure digital already.
>>142824183
So it should have been MetalGreymon vs MetalTyranomon
>>142824058
I also like Frontier, though I never finished the series. I want to someday though.The whole transforming into Digimon thing was something I thought would be awesome as a kid after watching Tamers, plus they finally got rid of the goddamn Digirap in the dub.
Digimon Frontier was announced in December 2001 and premiered on April 7, 2002. Again like Tamers, it takes place in a new continuity. The story follows average kid Takuya who receives a text message from an unknown source instructing him to "board a train towards his destiny". Because he's a bored kid (or so it seems) he finds the train in question with a group of other children and is taken off to the Digital World, which is currently under threat from Cherubimon who seeks to devour the entire Digital World's Code. However. Takuya and the other children who boarded the train, Izumi, Tomoki, Junpei and Koji inherit the power of the Ten Legendary Warriors that saved the Digital World in the distant past, allowing them to transform themselves into Digimon. This starts an ongoing race to find the Spirits of the Warriors, fix the Digital World and stop Cherubimon and his Evil Warriors. With a little bit of character finding on the way
Frontier was again directed by Yukio Kaizawa but written by the known Sukehiro Tomita, a man familiar with "henshin heroes" as he has been part of writing many mecha series from as far back as SDF Macross, Genesis Climber Mospaeda and multiple other mecha series as well as Kamen Rider Super-1, Sailor Moon, Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne and others. Another writer was Akatsuki Yamatoya
The key device this time was the D-Scanner which scanned the "Fractal Code" and helped the children Spirit Evolve
>>142824058
To be fair, I think those are the best at all. They're not flawless (god knows I have problems with Adventure) but they're probably the two with the most consistency and I can see why they are the most liked
>>142822193
Frontier is okay but when you realize they could have wrapped it up with half it episode count while ending up a better show, the picture isn't good.
>>142823514
The Appolomon arc and Bugramon arc were the only good parts. The rest was mostly mediocre if not worse and production was nowhere up to the first season.
The digimon OP is my shit.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cn9ACo4ScUU
>>142821659
You shut your whore mouth.
Compared to earlier entries, Frontier doesn't have as much interesting stories to tell for it's production. However, it's ratings tell a pretty strong story. Digimon Frontier didn't do so well compared to the last three series, it started off as the other season's typically did and it dropped down somewhat as with all previous seasons.
Then it hit trouble, after episode 6, it just vanished from the top 10 almost. It reappeared at episode 13 (the episode where Seraphimon appears and explains the whole digimon war idea and what's going on), episode 24 (The episode where they get pulled into that sphere battle thing), and episode 38 where the Royal Knights appear.
Digimon has a history of being different every series and that has no intention of changing any time soon but the changes this time were very more than notable. Mainly in that the children did not have partners, instead turning into the Digimon themselves similar to that of tokusatsu heroes like Kamen Rider or Super Sentai. It's a very controversial change that is still questioned today. On top of this was the lack of merchandising opportunities due to the D-Scanners following a different line than usual and no smaller Digimon to market around.
The show also is criticized for focusing too much on the central two characters Takuya and Koji far more than the series that came before and even possibly after.
This would also be the last time Wada Kouji would perform the main OP for a TV series after Frontier, he did the second OP in Savers and relegated his music to insert songs after that.
>>142824737
>This would also be the last time Wada Kouji would perform the main OP for a TV series after Frontier
b-but muh Tri
>>142824737
>The episode where they get pulled into that sphere battle thing
Sephirothmon. Come on, OP, at least attempt to change the wording of the WiththeWill posts you are copy and pasting.
>>142824516
>(god knows I have problems with Adventure)
good to know I am not the only one. Adventure is a good nostalgia but it kinda gets old when I rewatch it.
>>142824734
Wow, the Frontier OP isn't bad, I liked it
>>142824805
>TV series
>>142824771
That one is awful, and not really new
>>142824890
Frontier's OP was surprisingly good, though it might just be from coming from three straight seasons ofDI-DI-DI-DIGIMON
Frontier had one film, Island of Lost Digimon which showed AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon after being mentioned in the show. It also had an audio drama Digimon Frontier Original Story: Things That Want To Be Told in which all the children write letters to someone they "can't". Takuya writes to his family, Izumi writes to "who she can open her heart to", Junpei writes how to get Izumi, Tomoki writes to his brother, and Kouji and Kouichi write to each other
Frontier essentially was the "last" series for a while. It had low ratings than usual and was considered the end of the franchise on the small screen, until a very particular movie came out.
(As a side note, holy hell, why were they pushing the Wonderswan this much? Did anybody in Japan like that stupid thing? Feels like the Virtual Boy except it lasted longer)
>>142824836
I have no idea what you could possibly be talking about
>>142824805
Tri is an OVA series
>>142824993
>OVA
>comes out in cinema
Is this nigger serious
>>142825036
It's a Bandai premium OVA series like Gundam Unicorn or Akito the Exiled. Those come out in theaters and on disc
>>142824993
>I have no idea what you could possibly be talking about
http://withthewill.net/threads/675-Digimon-TV-Ratings
>>142825056
then it cant be an ORIGINAL VIDEO animation can it?
OVA means direct to video
>>142825082
Well everybody calls Unicorn an OVA series and that also came out in theaters. OP wasn't wrong though. Kouji didn't sing the first song for a TV show after Frontier
>>142825036
>>142824993
Tri is a series of movies.
Largely considered the truest example of something that could be considered a "black sheep" of the franchise, Digital Monster X-Evolution came out as surprisingly an hour long CG TV special on January 3, 2005. It follows a sole DORUmon and his quest in a world that has become nearly destroyed except for Digimon with the X-Antibody, a new type of Digimon introduced at the time, and understand who the true enemy is
X-Evolution is very odd. It only came on TV once and was never reran. Reception to it seems to be very mixed due to its slightly confusing story and shift to full CG animation. It was never shown in the West so most fans that aren't already aware of Digimon know about it. But regardless, Digimon's merchandise sales stayed strong and three years later, there was just enough time to release a new TV series.
With punching
>>142825063
I was trying to be sarcastic
>>142825143
Then we'll go with that
>>142825297
>His
>>142825297
x evolution is the highest point of the series for me
Finally something with no humans
>>142825297
No fun fact on who directed X-Evolution?
>I was trying to be sarcastic
Whoops, my sarcasmometer was broken. Carry on.
>>142825297
And still the most expensive digimon toys to this day.
>>142821532
>Nowadays
Is Xros Wars manga the only series who tried to make crossover other series and success?
>>142825528
>translation is dead
Welp, time to download the RAW to make it as learning material.
>>142825143
They compiled 4 episodes of and released it in theaters
>>142825614
are the raws even available?
>>142825297
>It only came on TV once and was never reran
Wow.
Digimon Savers is, again, set in a new continuity premiering April 2, 2006 and a return to Digimon as a series on TV after a long hiatus.
Masaru Daimon is the toughest guy in town but meets his match, literally, in the form of a rogue Agumon who clashes with him. After the two become friends, the organization D.A.T.S., Digital Accident Tactics Squad comes to apprehend the Agumon. After some complications, Masaru finds he can awaken his "DigiSoul by basically punching Digimon in the face. With this skill and partnering up with TOHMA H NORUSTEIN and some girl, I think her name was Yoshino or something, the three fight to prevent Digital accidents from occurring. However things start getting a lot more complicated than rogue Digimon and soon the terrors of both Digimon and humanity are revealed to everyone.
Savers was directed by Naoyuki ItÅ, director of Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu and more recently, directed the Overlord adaptation and written by RyÅta Yamaguchi. This time around, the Digivice is the Digivice IC which allows one to insert their "DigiSoul" into it and use it to help their partner evolve.I hate Sunflowmon's design. Like a lot. Lalamon and her other forms are fine but fuck Sunflowmon and it's stupid voice
>>142825383
Oh fuck I knew I forgot something. There's like no information of X-Evolution in general
Yeah, that was directed by KakudÅ, the guy who was behind Adventure/02, coming back to the franchise. Very strange choice to be sure
>>142825614
What are you talking about? The translation was complete.
>>142825701
KakudÅ coming back to the franchise
He never left. He directed some episodes for Tamers, Frontier and Xros Wars.
>>142825701
obligatory
>>142825645
Yes? I found it easily when lurking a bit about cross wars.
>>142825779
Yeah, I'm retard. Just looked up a bit, and it only has 22 chapter. I was sure it had more than that since it ended in vol 4.
Will it be watchable, /a/?
>>142825621
It was the other way round. Look at the cutting.for the movies. Both have the pacing of a movie and the 'episode cut' version ended halfassedly at the end of each episode.
>>142825701
The agumon 2006 ver was also stupid.
Savers had a really important role, to both bring the franchise back to life on TV, to be able to continue its merchandise sales from the interim between series as well as X-Antibody merch, to be an intentional call back to older audiences and, like, be a good show and stuff. Thus, Savers has a fair amount of the closest thing that could be considered "return to formula" notably it's Agumon and the bonding between partners. It even has a "rival character betrayal" moment and a Dark Evolution. That said, it's pretty different than the past such as the idea of the main characters being part of a Digimon organization and humans being truly evil and not manipulated or possessed.
It did better than Frontier in that more episodes were able to edge into the top 10. It also maintained the standard average ranking for all previous seasons. Though the average percentile fell fairly dramatically, a comparison against other long standing anime series such as Pokemon, Sanze-San or Detective Conan show similar percentile drops over the same period and therefore should not be taken as a sign that the series did poorly.
Savers also featured new character designs, by that of Aoi Sayo, designed to have the cast look older than the other protagonists (Masaru is actually 14, the same age as Taiki from Xros Wars).
One of the more memorable parts of Savers is the Royal Knights appearing in (almost) full force. Two of them were revealed in Frontier's second arc but on screen, this was the first time to see a very large majority at once.
>>142824060
Of fucking course it was Ghost Hound. That should have been obvious in retrospect. It's has a lot of similarities theme- and atmosphere wise, if you disregard digimon's more shonen battler aspects.
>>142825701
Was there any reason for the Agumon belt things other than differentiating him from Tai's?
>>142826166
digimon loves useless belts man since the original designs
>>142820629
>>142823738
>the late Wada Kouji
what? when? why?
holy fuck didnt asked for this feeling
>>142817283
>>142821992
Nevermind, i fund it by myself, its the prototype of Rusttyranomon
I'd say it would make a great vaccine version of Rusttyranomon.
>>142826257
Died of cancer like a month ago
He sang the new rendition of sebu while dying
Savers' main course of criticism comes from it generally being a largely not well known series despite being on TV and having a slow beginning. Masaru's punching of Digimon has been considered strange during its run but has essentially just been considered to be a part of who he is. On the flipside, a highly praised aspect of Frontier is how well it's usage of humans and villains is implemented as well as having the closest attempt to having all of it's characters on the same level of evolutionary power.
Like Frontier, Savers had only one film, Ultimate Power! Activate Burst Mode!! It notably does not have any of the main humans take center stage and focuses on the Child level Digimon as they struggle to free their partners from Argomon with the help of a mysterious being simply known as Rhythm.
Interestingly enough, Savers is the only series in which it's titled video games can be considered as part of the continuity. Digimon World Data Squad is an explicit sidestory to the anime, while Digimon World DS uses the characters in cameo roles. Its sequels, Digimon World Dawn and Dusk, have the Savers cast as an explicit "alternate universe" that can interact with the game one.
Savers did moderately well but the franchise essentially went into a cold sleep after it. 2009 was an especially dark time as pretty much nothing was coming out for Digimon at the time except the usual odd figure, no anime, games or anything. Things were looking bad.
Until 2010.
>>142826166
Probably not, other than that Agumon takes them off in the final episode. The belts are supposed to be like training things I think which is like how Masaru likes fightan.
>>142826311
thats so sad
when he came to my country on tour looked like a lively charming fellow
what a way to fuck up my entire day, gotta listen his songs to contain my feelings
fuck
(This is when I start actually personally remembering things)
There were rumblings of a new Digimon series as early as late 2009 but they were widely believed to be nothing but rumors. However leaks of the June 2010 V-Jump indicated a new set of straps indicated for a new series of Digimon were on the way. Listings for the name Shoutmon, Dorurumon, Baristamon, Greymon, and Montamon were said. Along with a very strange entry called "Cross Four, X4". Even indicating the story will harken back to something closer to the original artstyle compared to Savers. Many people were skeptical. What the heck could something "X4" mean? That doesn't even make sense.
Until the actual issue came out.
It was here that we got our first look at would become the true newest incarnation of the series on television, Digimon Xros Wars
>>142825884
I'm willing to give it a shot. Can't be all too bad
Digimon Xros Wars is, wait for it, set in a new continuity premiering July 6, 2010 and again returning to TV after a long hiatus
War! The Digital World is thrown into chaos when a mysterious evil force known as the Bagra (Bugra/Bagura? Did we ever get an official spelling of this? I'm going with Bagra), the young Taiki Kudo who "just can't leave people alone" takes up the call from a mysterious Omegamon to come save it. Accidentally dragging his osananajimi Akari and his "rival" Zenjiro with him, he falls into the Digital World where he meets his new partner Shoutmon (The one true fucking king of the Digital World). Together, they unlock the secrets of the Digivice, the Xros Loader, utilize the power of DigiXros and gather allies to collect the 108 Code Crowns before the Bagra Army does. But with the rival armies, Blue Flare led by the vengeful Kiriha and Twilight led with the mysterious Nene, it won't be an easy fight.
Digimon Xros Wars was directed by Tetsuya Endo but is mainly known for it's head writer, Riku Sanjo, former manga author of Beet the Vandal Buster and writer of Gaiking: Legend of Daiku-Maryu and eventually the Kamen Rider series, W, a well known and liked one.
>>142825528
V-Tamers did it.
>>142821602
I have one of those, but I don't remember what it does.
Digimon Xros Wars was, again, a different entry. An EXTREMELY notable aspect of Xros was how it discarded the general levels of Child, Adult, Perfect, etc and had every Digimon on an equal playing field. This meant that pretty much any Digimon could fight any other Digimon without cause. So one scene could have Shoutmon thrashing Digimon all over the place, but another could have a Stingmon fight a Beelzebumon 1v1. However, this was mainly a pretense for the true hook of the series, the XrosLoader and it's ability to create DigiXros
DigiXros was essentially a "Do anything" version of Jogress. The user could Xros any number of monsters they wanted and unlike Jogress which created a wholy new Digimon, Xrossing had one Digimon as the "base" with the others as the "parts". Essentially, Xrossing was the same as a Combining Mecha series, something Riku Sanjo has experience with. This allowed for large battles as well as a need for the characters to carry multiple Digimon at one time.
Digimon Xros Wars is so far the only one since Adventure to have a "continuation" past it's initial part though it's a little different than the relationship with Adventure/02 as Xros Wars can be divided into "parts", the first part, the second part "Death Generals and the Seven Kingdoms" and the third "The Young Hunters who Lept Through Time", that said, fans like to consider Young Hunters as separate from the first two due to a change in storyline, artstyle and some staff members
An interesting aspect of Digimon Xros Wars was that it also had a tie-in manga that came out before the anime for promotion. It essentially had the first couple of episodes in its first chapter but went on a very VERY different course.
Xros Wars also came with multiple titled video games, namely it's own Data Card Dass, Super Digica Taisen and Super Xros Wars Red and Blue
>>142826477
>he didn't get his sticky
>his soul will never find peace until then
>>142827070
was xros fusion ever really explored outside the 3 examples in the anime
Talk bout wasted potential
>>142823864
Tamers actually had high tv ratings at the time it came out.
>>142823224
There are many, many things looking at Adventure production hinting at an extended show.
There's many aspects of Xros that are praised, namely it's return to form in artstyle, the general consistent quality of animation compared to it's predecessors, and the high amount of likability of it's Digimon characters. Due to the Digimon not excessively being "linked" to one person, this allowed a lot of the Digimon on screen to show their own personalities and stand out. As some say "Shoutmon was the main character". Unfortunately, it had some negative points. The humans were considered not as developed as previous series and the usage of Xros was not explored as much as it could have been.
A notably major complaint would be regarding the turnaround of the story from jumping from one exclusive plot, the Code Crowns to another due to a shift in title. As well as some questionable actions of the other humans Kiriha and Nene. (Also this is just a personal thing but why didn't they just have like four Death Generals? Did they need 7? They could have just had 4 and stretched that shit out like the Dark masters)
Xros Wars had no movie or Audio drama but it did manage to reach it's conclusion and end on the same number of episodes as the original Adventure at 54. The story, however, didn't end yetMADA MADA TSUZUKU KYU~!"Xros Wars did continue in the form of a third part of the series.
A very...odd continuation
>>142824001
Tamers is the best digimon series, and I thought that was the general opinion.
Okay so there was a third part of Xros Wars. Young Hunters who lept through Time. It fucking sucked. It was like 2/3 filler and wasted time with pointless bullshit with constantly teasing a crossover and then fucking it up, do I really have to do this? I mean you all know what happened there right? Can I just skip to Tri? Tri has a really interesting story behind it
Fine, I guess I can at least just do a couple interesting things about Xros at least
Xros Wars interestingly enough, going all the way to Hunters did not have a single OP song by Wada Kouji, however in exchange the majority of the vocal soundtrack were songs by Kouji himself. Essentially for every new form Shoutmon obtained, there would be a new insert song for it. This led to a very high amount of music on Wada Kouji's musical list and was greatly appreciated.
As for Time Hunters, one theory as to why Xros was extended was that while it's merchandising sales were good, there was nothing in the slot to take it over so they needed to have something to fill in the runtime and they went with Time Hunters. It hasn't been proven but it would explain why Time Hunters feels so disconnected from the rest of Xros Wars.
Xros Wars ended as a whole on March 25, 2012. But the franchise wasn't nearly as cold as the time between Savers and Xros this time and there was something coming
>>142826340
>Savers had only one film, Ultimate Power! Activate Burst Mode!! It notably does not have any of the main humans take center stage
Seiyuu shit, no doubt.
>>142827717
I like to think Young Hunters was made filler by design, just to show off the fan OCs that are shown off during Xros.
>>142827448
This part should talk about the XW manga, too.
>>142827717
>it's merchandising sales were good
So good, they stopped making anything new when the Death Generals arc started.
Xros Wars is the only Digimon animated property that still does not a DVD/Blu-ray home wide release.
>>142827070
>An EXTREMELY notable aspect of Xros was how it discarded the general levels of Child, Adult, Perfect, etc and had every Digimon on an equal playing field
>muh Lucemon
Between the ending of Xros Wars and the franchise's 15th anniversary, there were some important games released. The first was the PSP adpatation of Digimon Adventure for it's 15th anniversary, followed by Re:Digitize Decode and eventually the fan-favorite, Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth.
But then on August 1, 2014, the day of the franchise's 15th anniversary, it appeared. On the main website, there was simply an egg.
And then the hell began
>>142827986
Nade-Nade was truly hell.
>>142827942
That bad?
If appmon fails digimon is dead
>>142827976
>muh levels
>>142828118
I think Bandai's not in such a bad place considering they are doing Tri and Appmon. They clearly have the resources to have spinoffs then that means they have the confidence. I mean if they have the efforts to push both then, considering Tri's relative success, it can't be doing that bad. We'd be in a position like the Savers days if things were truly trouble
>>142828118
Hardly. Tri is single-handedly funding Appmon.
>>142827717
>Hunters makes a dedicated OP suddenly babble like a whiny fucktard
Priceless.
>>142827976
Dude, Neptunemon was one of the first guys defeated.
>>142828142
I'm sure that bear is one of the weakest Perfects.
>>142828197
tri would end soon enough and then what
You cant milk adventure forever
>>142828142
>evolves into champion for the first time to defeat ultimate
>evolves into ultimate for the first time to defeat champion
>muh anime rules
>>142827859
Hunters WAS made filler by design, they said so in interviews. This show obviously made OP so butthurt he didn't feel like digging for info.
>>142828246
Nope. It was top-tier in the virtual pet.
>>142828256
To be fair, Togemon v Monzaemon was not a fight to kill, but to remove the black gear and survive long enough to do so.
Following this teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVnqtcBcsPo
What is colloquially refrerred to as "nade-nade" hell (nade-nade being the term for rubbing, something you do to help Digitama hatch) was the event in which a simple game had to be played to try and get the counter on the right down to 0 in the hopes that out of the egg, some new information would appear. Days, weeks even were spent trying to hatch this egg. Bandai was not helping either with trolling the numbers and having "blocks" with the users having the get DemiDevimon out of the way to continue their nade-nade. It is widely believed that the site owners underestimated just how many people would want to receive the information inside as the numbers would drop fast and quick
Eventually information finally started coming slowly and surely. This didn't help fan outlook as it felt things were getting pushed back further and further but eventually the true news came in. The Adventure continuity was coming back and it would be called Digimon Adventure Tri.
Just not on TV
>>142828212
I tried to avoid it, I really did but there's like nothing interesting to talk about with Young Hunters
>>142828268
>The 3rd season was decided it suddenly, so started from the planning and the script writing for episode 1, it was mostly lead by Kaizawa Yukio.
I really don't think that's really saying it was filler by design, I mean, don't get me wrong, it totally was but that's the only interview for Xros I could find
>>142828294
Amendium: The virtual pet in which Togemon was first available had put it on the same tier-as Monzaemon when linking with the first one a a result of the connection mechanics. Thinking about it in this manner doesn't pan out for other things however.
>>142828397
Can I be honest and say that I would have preferred to get a Tamers sequel rather than Tri.
>>142828253
Toei can try. By the time Tri is done, the 20th anniversary of Adventure will be upon us. And that means even more merchandise for the masses.
>>142828268
There's not much to say about it, it's literally filler. Plus Xros Wars did the worst of every digimon series. So there's not much to say about it without it coming across as bashing.
>>142827942
>Xros Wars is the only Digimon animated property that still does not a DVD/Blu-ray home wide release.
It's fucking disgraceful that.
The only DVDs you could get were rental copies which had 4 episodes on them each.
Blastmon, a major villain in Xros, featured on the cover art of precisely none of them.
>>142828529
That's sad.
>>142828529
The TV ratings for Xros Wars is somewhere between 2-1%.
>>142828485
02 aside, Hunters is by far the weakest entry in the franchise but what surprises me the most is that unlike 02, people never really manage to articulate properly what went wrong about it and simply seem to devolve into incontinent 8 years old to talk about it.
Since Digimon Adventure tri isn't over yet, there isn't any need to go into any finer details about reception and all that since that's really irrelevant until it ends but there is some basic factoids
Digimon Adventure tri was announced to be a 6 part movie series that would be released for limited runs in theaters, on blu-ray shortly after, as well as, in a surprisingly unique move for Toei online through official media outlets, notably Crunchyroll.
As stated, it is an official return to the Adventure continuity taking place 3 years after the events of 02 (though there are certain things about it that seem "off" in it's placement and we may not be getting the whole story).
Tri essentially comes out every other anime season at different points which ideally would put the end of Tri at around 2019.
Tri is still running and has done pretty well for Toei financially. The first movie notably having sold out tickets and having an extended run than it's original limited release. For now we'll see where the road of tri takes us. Normally this would be the end of the story and I'd go into some extra things but, there's just one more thing that came as a surprise.
>>142828642
They truly went abysmal after episode 30.
>>142827717
At least it was half the length of 02 and brought back many seiyuus for old and new characters.
>>142828750
The new 6:30 am time slot was the kiss of death.
On June 9 2016, Bandai revealed Digimon Universe: App Monsters. It will begin October 2016 on TV Tokyo.
There's a few things we know about. Our new lead is named Gatchmon, the green one based on the map app is Navimon, Dokamon is the blue fellow, and the yellow one based on the music app is Musimon.
The combination of Gatchmon and Navimon is named DoGatchmon.
Our new lead goggleboy is named Shinkai Haru. He is voiced by Yumi Uchiyama,
Gatchmon will be voiced by Kikuchi Kokoro who voiced as Chika from Savers and Sparrowmon from Xros. The new digivice is called the Applidrive. In a big first for Digimon but not so big for Bandai as whole, the Applidrive will actually have a voice, notably Takagi Wataru who you can hear on Jojo as Okuyasu this very season.
The director will be Gou Koga. Any Precure fans would know him as DokiDoki Pretty Cure director.(nervous laughter)The head writer is Youichi Kato. Most notably the series composer for Yokai Watch. And the character designer is based Kenichi Ohnuki, the guy behind the designs of Gundam Build Fighters (I am expected some top tier semen demons do not let me down here)
>>142828118
>Pushing one game after another with movies and a new TV series coming out
I don't think so, mate. It's alive enough to last another decade.
The story is as follows
Everyone in the world uses smartphone apps. But inside them lurks unknown creatures called "Appli Monsters," or "Appmon." The Appmon are AI lifeforms with the ability to think and act, and exist in the boundary between the human world and digital space to allow people and the system to interface and function. But in the vast sea of the internet, the "last boss AI" Leviathan takes control of the Appmon with a virus and begins hacking every system, thus starting to control the human world from the world of the net.
The protagonist, Haru Shinkai, is led to acquire the Appli Drive, and uses it to materialize Gacchimon, a search app monster. What is the secret hidden within the Appli Drive? What is the mysterious field that exists between net world where the Appmon exist, and the real world? What is the "App Combine" that can combine two Appmons? What is Leviathan's true goal?
https://youtu.be/jEcbj4NkNwo
https://youtu.be/WenTtyzo164
I'm not going to say I'm "super hype" but I am intrigued. I'm genuinely curious as to how they're going to make this work as this is an idea I figured they would have done like years ago.
And last but not least there's a few extra factoids I want to throw out
First of all everyone's favorite Mimi. Mimi is a very interesting case of cross marketing as she was voiced by AiM, Ai Maeda who also did Digimon Adventure's ED song and a fair amount of other songs for the Digimon franchise still to this day. AiM essentially became famous because of her role as Mimi and her performance of I Wish. If you're wondering why there was a random kareoke episode in that one where they have to sing for the Gekkomon, remember, Princess Mimi? it's because they were trying to have Mimi sing I Wish. It's actually really funny
>>142828998
I have no idea what their personalities are supposed to be like, but I want to stick my dick in that girl already.
>>142827942
>Xros Wars is the only Digimon animated property that still does not a DVD/Blu-ray home wide release
XROS got DVD but no BD yet despite being animated in HD.
Just give us the damn BD already.
Looking back all digimon anime kinda suck
Only adventure is worth preserving
While I said that there was no one true father of Digimon, that's not 100% true. There is a man named Akiyoshi Hongo. He is credited as the creator of the original concept and character designs for the virtual pet franchise, Digimon.
The reason I didn't mention him is that first, Digimon is largely a collaborative story of various individuals in all public forms and second, it's not 100% sure if Hongo actually exists. He could possibly be the name for two people Aki Maita, the creator of the original Tamagotchi, and Takeichi Hongo, the principal officer of Tamagotchi for Bandai. Regardless, if there is a person to directly consider the "father" of Digimon, the closest next to Watamabe would be him
>>142828397
>What is colloquially refrerred to as "nade-nade" hell
Fuck whoever came up with this shit. Doesn't help that Tri kinda sucks.
>>142829179
>Only adventure is worth preserving
And Tamers, and XROS first two cours.
One of the most important dates for Digimon fandom is that of Odaiba Memorial Day, September 1. It is called this due to 9/1 being the day that the children went to the Digital World in Adventure. Standing as a testament to how memorable the first series was, 9/1 is celebrated amongst Digimon fandom by creating memorial fanart and has been a tradition to this day. It's not really known when specifically it started as a fan thing but even Bandai recognizes the day and usually uses it to announce big events
>>142829179
>Looking back all digimon anime kinda suck
That's wrong. Only two outright suck. The rest range from "meh" to "good".
>>142829222
It hasn't pissed me off yet. I just want to know what's going on and get the full story
>>142829311
Nah I didnt care for tamers
You keep it preserved for me
>>142829324
>September
It's August anon, what the fuck.
>>142829214
>it's not 100% sure if Hongo actually exists
Spooky.
I think that's good enough. This has been the History of Digimon. I hope you have all enjoyed yourself and I hope that we can have fun talking about Applimon whether it's good or if it sucks. Really I just want it to be enjoyable more than anything else
>>142829360
I totally meant to write August. You may commence with the heckling
>>142829324
>I just want to know what's going on and get the full story
Likely something Mirai Nikki level of stupid and shippers getting buttdevastated in the end.
>>142829394
>Do this whole post to get the fucking Memorial Day out of all things wrong at the end
Good job.
>>142829155
DVDs were for rental only.
The irony is Xros Wars' English dub has received a complete home release.
>>142829214
The "yoshi" part of Akiyoshi could be from the third person, Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru, who was the character designer at Toei.
>>142829324
>Only two outright suck.
I know one is 02, but which one's the other one? Even "we're not even going to bother with digimon partners this time" Frontier and "the deformed child of a threesome between Digimon, Pokemon and Voltron" Xros grew on me after a while.
>>142829324
meh is not worth it
You dont rewatch meh unless you are a fanboy
>>142829471
Hunters
>>142829471
Hunters
>>142829474
I haven't rewatched Frontier which I found meh. The other ones I found bad, 02 and Hunters, which I never watched again and the rest which I have rewatched
