First part of it you can find here:
http://hasekuraisuna.jp/trial/spicywolf-mag3/
>no one give a fuck about whoro
Overrated shit
Wife Horo is looking comfy as fuck.
Anime soon to advertise this new one?
>>142725351
Yeah. Two new seasons full of Cole cockblocking. Won't it be grand?
>>142725534
As long I got my economic jewing practices.
>>142725534
How mad would people be if the shota ended up being Horo's mate. From the way she teased him sometimes, it was almost like she was grooming him to become her new fuck toy.
>>142725241
Not mention that she little "grown up" when she became mother.
>>142725838
Why do people insist on the "Horo" spelling. I know that's how you would romanize it but that doesn't make it correct.
Or is it just a meme?
>>142726898
It's weeb nonsense and/or a meme, depending on the person.
>>142726898
Because "Horo" is the closest to how you would actually pronounce it. "Holo" is just misleading.
>>142727182
>much japanese
I bet you also called Lelouch <Ruruushu> instead of <Leloosh> back then when Code Geass was polupar, right?
>>142727182
The Japanese "r" sound is not the same as the English r sound. In fact, simply put, it is in-between our r and l sounds.
>>142727891
And the protagonist of Death Note is obviously Raito.
I wonder if Yen will translate this so I have more Spice & Wolf books to pile next to my guns.
>>142727891
>being an ESL retard
>giving your opinion on English naming
>>142728246
Yeah, but pronunciation of the 'o' is implied to be different depending on the letters next to it. People with no knowledge of the series are very likely to pronounce "Holo" as in the first half of "hologram' or just draw out tho 'o' sounds for too long, but there's very little room to misinterpret "Horo". I don't give a fuck about the official romanization from a jap because that's not an English translation. Yen Press shouldn't have either and god knows that's not the only mistake they made with the localization.
>>142728403
The series clearly takes place in a European setting and the actual spelling in Latin script has been shown to be Holo (inb4 Korbo). Your slavish devotion to the Japanese pronunciation is misplaced and still inaccurate in either case.
>>142728681
>slavish devotion to the Japanese pronunciation
Again, that's a romanization. Not a translation. I spell it "Horo" specifically because I'm not the sort of autistic faggot who insists on calling "Lelouch" "Ruruushu". It's not about L versus R. It's about having a name that isn't awkward and ugly in English. Everyone who knew about the series before Yen Press got it called her Horo because it's the best translation.
>>142728274
>Lelouch
>English name
>>142729040
Seriously. Stop posting about the fine points of language if you're incapable of basic reading comprehension.
>>142725977
>Not mention that she little "grown up" when she became mother.
why are you ESLs always so unintentionally hilarious
>>142729131
Lawrence getting cucked when?
>>142725534
this is srsly why I'm happy S&W never got a third season fuck that little shit
I thought it was over. Why isn't it over?
>>142729412
Inevitably after his death. That's the price for having Goddess as wife.
>>142730214
The author was a one hit wonder and is trying to milk the only successful thing he's done.
>>142730383
wisewolf*
>>142724570
>>142730214
It was over, but series was renewed with sequel following Lawrence living family life with Holo and their daughter Myuri.
>>142730383
I always wondered about this. Lawerence is human and will eventually die one way or another. What is she going to to then? Will she mourn for a hundred years, go on a new journey and fall in love again?
And what about their daughter? Is she immortal too?
>>142730700
If I remember correctly one of themes of final novels was Lawrence accepting fact that he will eventually perish, and wanted Holo to move on, and don't stuck in grieving.
Also whole point of Myuri is that Holo won't stay alone when that times come.
>>142724570
>>142730214
>>142730639
Speaking of, which group has the best translation of the novels? I need to catch up now that there's about to be more content coming out.
>>142728933
>because it's the best translation
The only reason for this that I see in your post is
>awkward and ugly in English
but you didn't say why.
>>142732718
Except I spent a post detailing how "Holo" is ambiguous and awkward. Literally the only reason to use "Holo" is because Yen Press said so and you're also ignoring all the other stupid name translations they did. If you call her that then you're a newfag and/or secondary.
inb4 >most of /a/ calls her that now
Guess what most of /a/ is.
>>142724570
What is the best release of this story? LN?
Some thoughts after reading all the novels:
-Cole wasn't that bad a character.
-The Side Colors books were somewhere between boring and awful, other than Nora's story.
-There's very little character/relationship development from vol 5 until around vol 15. Not that they're bad, but they're 95% SOL when most people are reading the series to see Lawrence and Horo grow closer.
-Lawrence is dense to the point of mental disability. He doesn't even realize Horo really wants him until the end of the story, and in the epilogue after they've been living together for three years he still has no idea what's on her mind.
-The books involving other pagan creatures and Eve are pretty good. The others you can probably skip if you're not interested in the power of money.
-Speaking of Eve, as the series went on I found her a more interesting character than Horo. She sure gets strangled a lot, too. Considering she hates all men but Lawrence, I'd kill for a side story of her learning to love again. I can see it involving age gap yuri.
-Honestly, Horo does have a really bitchy streak that never goes away.
-Yen Press needs a goddamn proof reader. Typos and sentences full of poor grammar actually get worse in later books.
>>142733160
>Except I spent a post detailing how "Holo" is ambiguous and awkward.
How the pronunciation of this word is ambiguous and awkward, you mean. I would make the same argument for Horo.
>Literally the only reason to use "Holo" is because Yen Press said so
Plus the author, plus the anime.
>>142733229
I agree with Cole not being that bad, he wasn't really necessary but he served as a sorta practice child, showing how the two would react with a kid. He only cockblocks a couple of times, the rest are on Lawrence.
The side stories were alright, Eve's origin story was probably the greatest thing, her character was pretty damn cool.
>>142725241
The best.
Are you faggots still arguing over her name even after like 7 years or some shit?
Author confirmed it as Holo, get over it.
>>142734456
>>Author confirmed it as Holo, get over it.
When did /a/ start trusting Japan with the Latin alphabet?
>>142734241
>i don't know the difference between romanization and translation
Like I said earlier, and to use your own example:
"Ruruushu" is a romanization. "Holo" is a romanization. They're intended for Japanese speakers.
"Lelouch" is a translation. "Horo" is a translation. They're intended for English speakers.
There's a reason literally every fan translation chose "Horo" instead of "Holo" before Yen Press went full retard and asked someone who doesn't speak English for an English translation.
>>142734241
"Horo" is only has one way an English speaker will interpret it. Unless you'd like to provide examples of how any sane person would misinterpret it like I have for "Holo".
>>142735085
>is only has
I sure love rewording posts and forgetting to fix the grammar.
What if the church took holo and lawrance's daughter and raped her to death ?
>>142734837
Dude, stop with your bullshit. And act like you understand things that you obviously not.
Yen Press was asked directly from ASCII to use "Holo" in their translations. Just look at wiki.
"Holo" is truly correct spelling.
>>142724570
>>142725977
Wait, they fucked and got married?
What fucking rock have I been hiding under.
>>142734619
When did /a/ approve of localization changes that goes directly against the author's wishes just because the localizer assumed they "knew" better?
>>142734837
>being this mad that the author doesn't share your opinion
Cool story, bro.
>>142727891
>polupar
>>142735488
That's a funny-sounding word.
Didn't Horo die.
>>142734837
>>142735351
http://yenpress.com/2009/09/spice-and-wolf-unveiled/comment-page-1/#comments
>Also, just to quickly address the comment about the decision to use “Holo” instead of “Horo”… This was discussed at length with our licensor in Japan, and based on their preference — presumably through conversation with the original editorial staff and author — we were instructed that the proper spelling of the character’s name is indeed Holo. Who are we to argue?
Same question applies to you.
>>142735351
>>142735464
>>142735621
>trusting non-English speakers knowledge of English more than English speakers
>>142735549
That was just ruse to promote their new family hot springs business.
>>142728403
>Yeah, but pronunciation of the 'o' is implied to be different depending on the letters next to it. People with no knowledge of the series are very likely to pronounce "Holo" as in the first half of "hologram' or just draw out tho 'o' sounds for too long, but there's very little room to misinterpret "Horo".
Just curious, how exactly do you think people pronounce "hologram", and how do you think "Horo" would be instinctively pronounced? Like the beginning of "Horoscope"?
Because that changes pretty heavily depending on accent.
>>142735464
He's right though.
Holo sounds awkward in English, like it should be a prefix from Greek, as in "hologram" or "holocaust".
Horo on the other hand sounds early Germanic, and has an old Anglo-saxon mouthfeel, like "Horst" or "Horkell". Which matches the setting.
>>142735693
>Thinking that english speakers word is more than word of authors.
>>142735805
>how exactly do you think people pronounce "hologram"
"hollow - gram"
>Like the beginning of "Horoscope"
Exactly.
>>142735866
On the subject of translation into the English language? Yes. Very much so. Isuna knows jack shit about how to translate for an English-speaking audience.
>>142735420
Yes, they even have cute daughter, that is stated to be mischievous tomboy.
>>142735428
Since the very first days of /a/? I don't think anyone ever actually took the author's position on the Larry/Rally Vincent debate from GSC. There are probably older examples, but this one predates /a/ so good enough.
>>142735940
I'm not quite grasping whatever you're getting at, for me the "o"s in Hologram and Horoscope are pronounced pretty much the same way, just with a L instead of an R.
>>142735940
>Isuna knows jack shit about how to translate for an English-speaking audience
Dude, Isuna studied on Rikkyo University.
>>142736045
Except you draw out the vowels much longer when you say "hologram". They're also the fact that some people are going to see "Holo" and say "hoe - low" which is completely wrong, but there's no way to tell from just the spelling.
>>142736113
And he studied English there to the point that he became fluent? His janky Engrish elsewhere (spicy-wolf.com is the official website) says otherwise.
>let's trust these guys with English
>they know all about proper pronunciation
>they never mix up L and R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6JVjuo1u5Q
>>142735766
>fake a death to promote business
Goddamn Lawrence really is a jew
>>142736280
>Except you draw out the vowels much longer when you say "hologram".
Where I'm from we don't.
>They're also the fact that some people are going to see "Holo" and say "hoe - low" which is completely wrong, but there's no way to tell from just the spelling.
And equally "Horo" could be pronounced as "huh-ro" because of how people pronounce "horizon".
>>142736280
Holo just sounds better than Horo.
Fight me.
>>142736850
Except the "ro" at the end implies a different pronunciation. than "ri". Again, the unanimous choice of "Horo" for fan translations wasn't on accident.
Anyways, I'm tired of newfags going yolo for Holo so you can shut the fuck up now.
>>142737184
>Except the "ro" at the end implies a different pronunciation. than "ri".
Then how do you pronounce "horrible"?
>>142731790
All the novels are released by Yen press now except the newest stuff that hasnt been thrown together into a stand alone book.
>>142737319
The "rri" also implies a different pronunciation than "ri". That's why the extra R is there.
>>142737107
not if you roll the r slightly
>people without a philology degree arguing phonetics
>not even using the IPA
>or even being able to name the type of rhotic Japanese has (a flap)
kill me
>>142725838
So why do people hate this kid so much? Does he really cockblock the OTP? Is it true what this anon said about Holo teasing about him being her mate over Lawrence. I know she likes to tease Lawrence especially when it comes to other men, but there has to be a point where he has enough. I don't care about spoilers so just spoil my shit up.
in during it's actually spelled Korbo
>>142737540
aɪ noʊ ðæt fiːl fæm
>>142737432
And how do you pronounce "horizontal"?
>>142737632
The same way I start pronouncing "horizon" because it's literally the same word root and I'm not a hick who says hurrizon.
>>142737888
They're pronounced differently in many places, and not just by hicks.
>>142735766
>rusing people to promote a business
The fuck?
>>142738956
Not how it went. It's a special service at the onsen, in which a group comes in and one person plays the "deceased" and gets a mock funeral held for them. All the "deceased's" friends and relatives come up and say everything they would say were it a real funeral. They get it all off their chest so that the "deceased" can hear it and be honored/grateful/etc.. Basically, it's a service to get people to open up and say everything they want to say to someone, before it's too late and all you can do is say "I never had a chance to tell them..."
If you ever read The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, it's pretty much like that part where Tom and Huck listen in on their own funerals and get so touched at all the nice stuff people were saying about them telling all their feelings that the two never knew the people had felt for them.
>>142739427
That's kinda true. My younger cousin was killed last October and about 350 people who we had no idea who the fuck they were showed up at the funeral. Everyone had a story about him no one else had heard. I ended updating a woman who knew him as a kid.
"Seeing a tall woman wasn't rare, but such a prestigious one? Definitely.
“I am Eve Boland.”
She speaks her name like she's delivering a report. Her height contrasts with how thin she
appears, but then calling her "thin" isn't quite correct; it's more accurate to say that her body
has no excess meat on it. Whatever perfume she's wearing, it vaguely reminds me of wild
beasts.
My master is fairly tall, but Eve is much taller still. But there is more than just a height
difference between these two. My master's slowly been growing fatter over the years, all
except for the one area where it counts the most. This lady with the wolf-like appearance has her beat in that department."
Reminder that Eve turns into a busty elegant Christmas Cake
