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I'm kind of surprised at how seemingly dedicated Toriyama
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I'm kind of surprised at how seemingly dedicated Toriyama is to this pairing. He has it introduced in BoG and has it casually namedropped in RoF but it's completely cut from the recap episodes in Super so we all think it's gone then the second we focus on Trunks, oh look, it's ToraMai pairing again. The weird thing especially is that if you haven't seen the movies this is going to feel like it comes out of nowhere

What is it about this that he seems to like (other than it's pretty cute)?
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>>142556921
I don't care why it's a thing, but I'm glad my ship sailed.
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>>142558202
Oh definitely, me too. It was all kinds of adorable in BoG
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>>142556921
It's sort of refreshing considering the shitty article than was infesting lolfacebook saying that Trunk is gay
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>>142558735
why do people think he's gay?
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>>142556921
is this future trunks from the cell saga
or is this the new trunks that appeared in buu saga?
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>>142559114
It's the same Future Trunks.

This was literally the first piece of information we got about him when they announced this arc was happening.
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>>142559050
I supposed because he only has a male friend.
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>>142559348
how can you make friends when everyone is dead though
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>>142559050
Girls
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>>142556921
>Bulma ended up with a villain that tried to kill her and her friends
>Trunks ended up with a villain that tried to kill his mother and her friends
POTTERY
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>>142559667
I hope that was intentional
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Official synopsis on the FUJI TV site (Episode 47)

次回 | 6月12日(日) 9:00~9:30 放送

ドラゴンボール超(スーパー)
17年後の未来を襲う最大の危機!「今日こそお前の息の根を止めてやる、サイヤ人よ」殺戮を繰り返しトランクスを追い詰める新たな敵はなんと悟空の姿をしていた!

Source: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/


The greatest crisis that fell upon 17 years into the future! The new enemy that repeatedly slaughtered [people] and cornered Trunks saying "Today's the day I'll end your life, Saiyajin!" looks just like Goku!


So luckily, it seems that Black is not going to possess Goku like I feared and is already in Goku's form
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>>142559050
maybe because of that GT abomination, which made trunks seems a little bit femenine
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>>142558202

This was literally my reaction the first time I saw the magazine teaser.

>>142559050

Fujoshi.


His portrayal in GT didn't help with the general audience, though. To be fair, Pan was pretty much the only female aside.of his mom or sister he interacted with, so the Trunks x Pan/ToraPanfags have been holding on to this series since then, comoletely ignoring the fact that those interactions were obviously platonic.
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>>142560798
>so the Trunks x Pan/ToraPanfags have been holding on to this series since then

Didn't Pan was like 10 or something in there.
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I don't even remember who those characters are, but isn't the girl one of the friends of his mother or something?

That's fucked up.
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>>142560989
Mai just tried to kill Bulma and Goku multiple times, it´s no big deal.
Bulma did the same with Vegeta.
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>>142556921
>The weird thing especially is that if you haven't seen the movies this is going to feel like it comes out of nowhere

Because it was Toei's fault. I really want to know who had the "brilliant" idea to remove that from the retellings and why. Unless making it coming out nowhere was actually the intention.

Can you believe that months ago, people were claming it was Toriyama's decision to remove the ToraMai interactions because it was either "innapropiate" or "unpopular" when it turns out it was all the contrary?

I'll tell you, ever since the end of the BoG arc, I spent some time with jap fans at twitter. A lot of them want and were expecting ToraMai. Even after the Champa arc, they have been expecting for some flag, these guys sure have a lot of patience. Naturally, they are currently excited.
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>>142556921
You know what is funny? I think he brought the Pilaf Gang back just to pair them up.
That said, I'm waiting to see what kind of role Mai will have in this upcoming arc, because her presence there is totally unexpected for me. When I heard about a new Future Trunks arc I never thought they would put Mai there of all people.
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>>142560866

Pan is 9, and he's like 23.

Right now those shippers are being a bit more careful, but their arguments before all of this were highly hypocritical.
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>>142561164
>Because it was Toei's fault. I really want to know who had the "brilliant" idea to remove that from the retellings and why.

I'm now 100% convinced that Videl is how she in this because of Toei.
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>Adult woman gets a child's body for reasons i can genuinely no longer remember and then goes /ss/ pedo on Kid Trunks.

This was always weird to me, but nevertheless, get in there my son.
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>>142559050
GT
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>>142559050
- A bishounen on an universe full of manly men
- His bromance with Goten
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>>142560866
Most ToraPan shippers are female and women are into pedophilia way more than guys. See shoujo/josei
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>>142562229
She's a rather sad individual really; to spend her whole life doing nothing but hanging out with and taking orders from a blue goblin and a talking dog who thinks he's a ninja or something.
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>>142562353
Let us not forget: she never scored.
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>>142562516
>Trunks grows up and NTR's her.
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>>142562143
It´s like you can´t be best friends with someone withot being gay.
Did these people think Goku and Krillin were gay in og DB?
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>>142556921
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Tora?
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>>142562905
Torankusu
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Reminder, Trunks accidentally touched her chest.

>>142561542
>Adult woman gets a child's body for reasons i can genuinely no longer remember
Pilaf and co. wished themselves to be young again but the Dragon took it too far
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>>142563073
Ridiculous. Do you people say Bejita or seru? Furiza?
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>>142562905
It comes from the pairing name トラマイ, ToraMai
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>>142556921
>What is it about this that he seems to like
It's comedy as in good comedy.
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>>142561164
I haven't picked up the anime just yet, but were they also not present for the Tournament in the anime, while they went in the manga?
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>>142563204
>Dragon monkey-paw'd them.

Wow, what a dick.
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>I live in a universe where Mai is somehow relevant again
What the hell. What about Lunch tho? I don't watch Super.
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>>142563683
>What about Lunch tho?
Lunch is a one-note joke that really just doesn't work anymore.

Pilaf gang is timeless, at least for Toriyama anyway.
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>>142563223

For us it would be "TruMai", but the japanese sounding one ended up being catchier for some reason.
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>>142563340

They were present in the manga and Trunks was even playing with them.

In the anime? No.

They did comeback to try and kiddnap Pan in that one episode, though. Cutest episode so far.
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>>142563987
More proof then that Toei was trying to sweep this pair under the rug then, only for Toriyama to not give them a choice in the matter, I suppose.
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>>142562705
Goku has a wife and kids and Krillin has always shown interest on women way before meeting 18. Also, both are manly as fuck
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>>142556921
>What is it about this that he seems to like (other than it's pretty cute)?
Fujoshi getting BTFO and comedy gold
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>>142561542
I find it weirder Shu is still around considerring all the other animal people are gone from the db universe it seems.
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>>142564568
Pilaf gang comes in a set
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>>142564568

>What are Oolong and Puar?

But yeah, I find it strange there isn't more animal people around, but hey, we can also add that to the "It's Toei's fault" list now, along with >>142561164 and >>142561491
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Stick to one thread fools
>>142541122
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>>142556921
>Future Trunks
>Mai
So is this just future trunks or the two of them are the protag of the next arc? I've seen the visual but will Mai especially her have a role or will she just there for placeholder?
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>>142565255
Mai's VA confirms she will be in every episode and will have a "major role" apparently on her twitter
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>>142565255

Anon, we can't read the future, so we have to wait until saturday to see how this will start.

All we know is that the Mai's seiyuu said she's will be voicing her in every episode from now on and that one produced said she would have a major role.
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>>142563204
Trunks is a pervert. He was blushing, a kid shouldn't be having such dirty thoughts.
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>>142566401
Even a kid knows how to get a boner
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>>142566401
I knew all about the majesty and naughtiness of tits from an early age too. Shits hardwired into our brains.
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>>142567227
Trunks's brain is hardwired to chase violent women thanks to his saiyan heritage.
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>>142568051
He's a half Saiyan. All evidence points to half Saiyans not caring as much about pride and power or violent women.

That only applies to Vegeta and Goku if you look at Bulma and Chi Chi.
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Will they kissu?
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>>142565218
I like this thread better
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>>142556921
Is'nt Mai an adult when Bulma was a teen?How old is she here?Did they say that future Mai too got shrunked into a kid?How did that happen if piccolo was dead long ago and Earth had no dragon balls?
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>>142568153
The only half saiyan we have as evidence is Gohan, who promptly married a strong willed woman who knew how to fight. (on a normie standard).
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>>142570308
They wished before Dende came since they only got 1 wish.

So they wished during or before the androids.
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>>142570905
Yeah but Videl was always a bro and not nearly as hotheaded. And look how she turned out in the end.

Bulma and Chi Chi challenge Vegeta and Goku every damn day in some way or the other.
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>>142571015
Maybe it was when everyone was training for the androids. It's not like the crew was using the dragon then
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Someone add Trunks to this shit
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>>142572190
Yeah we need an update.
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>>142562835
Sawako is also cute desu
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>>142571026
>Yeah but Videl was always a bro and not nearly as hotheaded. And look how she turned out in the end.

Well, that's Toei's fault, not Toriyama's from what we can see now.

And anon, everyone and their mother knows that Videl is the dominant in the relationship. She just happens to not have bitch episodes like Chi-Chi and Bulma.
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fuck mai

give me launch
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They really hate gotens I see. If he's not fusing with trunks or following behind trunks then he isn't important. Well good thing I never really thought DB was that good of a series anyways
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>>142576244
>They really hate gotens I see.
The future multiverse tournament seems like the perfect time for him to get an alien girlfriend so he can develop into the bratty "I just wanna date girls" teen he becomes by the end of the manga
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>>142576244
He's just a Goku clone. Honestly, if it weren't for Mai Trunks wouldn't have anything to do either. The kids just aren't very interesting solo.
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>>142576748
Well it's better then having become the "I could have been strongest but I chose to stop training" type. I would say fuck everyone too and just go get a girl if I was goten. Why not if all you're ever going to be is a background character on not even piccolo level.
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>>142560989
No, she's an enemy from Dragonball
The entire joke with her there was that she had the sexual maturity of a child (this is also the joke with her two buddies)
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>>142576753
It's not because Mai why trunks is getting time, they would have brought back future trunks either way. Goten is honestly the most useless saiyan and that's sad. Even in the shit non canon GT they made him less relevant then pan
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>>142577174
I remember that panel when she was asked to give "service" and blushes like mad as she blows a kiss.

It was cute as fuck.
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>>142577252
The problem with Goten is that he's unfortunately a product of when Toriyama was seriously considering doing a next generation thing so he got a lot of screentime and promotion with Trunks but unfortunately, as we know, this didn't happen which only leaves Goten as "small Goku who can fuse with Trunks".

You know what would help though? A girlfriend. Worked for Trunks.
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>>142576748

Both Goten and Trunks seem to still enjoy fighting, just not in the pathological extreme of their dads. If I remember correctly Goten just mentioned that he just had previous plans with his girlfriend but still cheerfully went along.

Or is this just another lasting effect from GT?
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>>142566401
He was also asking her to hold hands with him right after meeting her and constantly shares a penis with his best friend.
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>>142577447
I just checked the last chapters. Goten says "I don't wanna go, but my dad's making me" and complains about how he had a date.
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>>142577644
kekked at the penis part, and not just the word.
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>>142576161

Bandai or whoever is doing those figures is giving her to you to buy her. What are you doing about it, anon?
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>>142576161
>fuck mai
She's too pure for that
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>>142577393
>you know what would help
>girlfriend
Shit I can't even argue that one. Now all we need is for a relevant young bitch to be introduced for him.
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>>142578850
>Now all we need is for a relevant young bitch to be introduced for him.
That's why I'm saying, cute alien little girl in the tournament
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>>142576161
what is launch's last appearance?
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>>142561164
>I'll tell you, ever since the end of the BoG arc, I spent some time with jap fans at twitter. A lot of them want and were expecting ToraMai. Even after the Champa arc, they have been expecting for some flag, these guys sure have a lot of patience. Naturally, they are currently excited.

Tell me more
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>>142579739
Ok I like that idea.
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>>142579739
Nah senpai he got god GOKU genes. Can't waste them.
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>>142556921
Anything is better the Trunks/Pan, but this is pretty cute.
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>>142580280
There's a lot of shitty aspects about the larger DB fanbase but Trunks/Pan shippers are quite possibly the worst kind of cancer ever
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>>142580297
>mfw everyone decades long Headcanons for Future Trunks love life about to get BTFO by fucking Mai

too great
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>>142580385
It is the best feeling ever
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>>142580385
>>142580695
The shipstorm is going to be lovely.
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She could have ended up like this.

But instead she got extra youth and a royal half saiyan stud as a boy toy. Mai has won Dragonball
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how about we give goten a deaged luanch to balance things out
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>>142581526
Wouldn't work the same

The pairing/comedy works with Mai because her mindset was always that of a child.
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>>142581217
I read somewhere that Toriyama felt really bad with seeing Pilaf and his gang as old people. Apparently, he really likes them
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>>142580280
>>142580297
>>142580385
>>142580695
>>142581172
>Shipping wars in fucking Dragon Ball
I hate you all
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>>142580280
>>142580297
>>142580385

It just hit me.

GT is from what year? '97-98, right? Holy shit. All those years in between GT and the BoG movie the headcanonfags and TruPanners probably unironically believed they "have won" by default or something.
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>>142581803
>implying
I do hate Trunks and Pan though.
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>>142581947
I always assumed Trunks was gay for Goten. Not a fujo
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>>142581803

>Shipping wars

>Implying the basis of Trunks x Pan isn't made entirely of delusions and headcanons

Seriously, what ship? You can't have a war without a ship and it wasn't even a legitimate one to begin with. You will only find some people being mad at the fact that Toriyama made the Trunks and Mai combi an actual threat to their ships.
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>>142581217

So the rare occurrence where the girl wins for getting a hot guy.
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People can bitch about fujos but hetfags are sometimes worst. See ToraPanfags, before thisTrunks have more chances with Goten that he ever could have with Pan but fangirls like self insert.
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>>142582241
Look at all the shipping wars One Piece gets with people fighting over which crew romance will fuck Nami.
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>>142582241

Nigga, it became an actual "threat" since 2013. I supposed the detractors went all "oh, it's just a puppy love Mai is humoring because she's older than Bulma and has to act as the responsible adult" or "Meh, whatever, we still have Future Trunks".

The BTFOing was hard.
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>>142582409
And they can self insert into the teenage girl (Especially since she's related to Goku)

But they can't do it with the Cougar normie.
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>>142581217
>a royal half saiyan stud
You say that like being a saiyan "royal" means jackshit when the rest of the saiyans are dead.

I think him being the heir to the RICHEST FUCKING FAMILY ON EARTH is a bigger deal, personally.
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if this happens to be the same trunks from the cell saga i will be a bit disappointed if he never reached ssj3 or at least ssj3

his world still destroyed and now he also has to protect mai, that should be enough to let him unlock ssj3

if he is just as stong as in the cell saga that just mean he went full Gohan and stopped training just because his world was at peace for a few years
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>>142583047
Trunks left the Cell era thinking Gohan was the strongest. He's gonna be so disappointed.
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>>142580385
>>>/v/ermin
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>>142583294
Are you the loser who just posted >>142583229 in the Tomo-chan thread? Get lost, pathetic little bitch.
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>>142583111
Well dear ol' daddy is now a bluper saiyan so that balances things out.
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>>142559050
it's the scarf
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>>142572190

>Mai was picked since each pairing has at least one Black Hair
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isnt mai like 50 years old in the future
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So are we just supposed to accept that Trunks has blue hair now?
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>>142572295
This face makes me feel strange.
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>>142584916
Yes.
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>>142584916
Yes?
Honestly, what is so bad about it? It is not like from Purple to Blue is a big change.
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>>142584856
Bulma was like 52 when Trunks killed Cell so Mai is even older. It's not like anyone involved with Super is aware of this though.
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>>142584961
This is even worse than Brown Vegeta. Would it be fine too if Piccolo just suddenly became orange?
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>>142584856
Biologically? No, it appears the wish happened before the android saga, which means she must be around Future Trunks biological age.
Mentally? No, she is part of the Pilaf Gang.
Existentially? Yes, maybe even older.
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>>142585109
Now, now...from green to orange is way more of a change than purple to blue. You'll get used to it. I already did.
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>>142585167
I like him better blue because it sure makes more fucking sense to have blue hair as the result of blue + black than purple.
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>Future Trunks and de-aged Mai

Wait, that doesn't make any sense.

Kid Trunks is a completely different character from Future Trunks. Kid Trunks is cocky asshole like his old man because Vegeta was around to raise him. Future Trunks is basically Kyle Reese because he grew up in a nightmarish hellscape. So how can Future Trunks, a guy that only exists because everyone else died when he was a baby, exist alongside Mai, who can only be that young because Battle of Gods happened?
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>>142585341
>People are still asking this
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>>142585341
How does Mai become young again in a universe where Piccolo is dead and therefore the Dragonballs don't exist?
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>>142585341
>who can only be that young because Battle of Gods happened?

The Pilaf Gang's wish to become young again was made prior to the Android saga, when Shenron could only grant one wish. It happened in both timelines.
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>>142585341
>who can only be that young because Battle of Gods happened?
Actually they probably were wished young back before the Androids. Pilaf was surprised that Shenron could grant more than one wish when it was summoned again.
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>>142585453
Did this happen in the show, or is this just your headcanon?
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>>142585491
The show doesn't even bother explaining how they're young again. But Pilaf is surprised by how Shenron can grant multiple wishes.
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>>142585491
It's fucking logic, you retard. There's no evidence that the wish was made any closer to BoG, that's just the first time we see them since DB
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>>142585491

You clearly didn't watch the movie.
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>>142585453
>>142585475
WAIT. That doesn't make any sense either.

There was a pretty substantial timeskip between the Androids and Buu. So either Pilaf's gang are permanently ten years old (and OP's pic shows that clearly isn't the case), or they were wished into newborns.
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>>142585427
I don't know, maybe all those years no one made a wish with the dragon balls.
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>>142585571
>they were wished into newborns
Shenron's a dick like that

Plus it would explain why it took them so long to get to finding the dragonballs again
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>>142585571
>Pilaf's gang are permanently ten years old
Rude, do you know how old people like Bulma's mom or the OX King actually are? Now, compare that with how they look.
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>>142585491
Pilaf was unaware Shenron could grant more than one wish when he was summoned again, and since Pilaf only got one wish from him we can conclude he made the wish before Dende upgraded the Dragon Balls.
A de-aged Future Mai's presence in Future Trunks timeline indicates the same event happened there as well, which makes sense considering things only start to diverge in both timelines after the Android arc.
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>>142585571
They still have all their memories, and Pilaf is technically a genius. Shuu is also more than capable of taking care of himself since he's a dog. They wouldn't be newborns, at their youngest they'd physically be a few months old. Maybe a year or two.
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>>142585571
>or they were wished into newborns.

That is probably it.
They accidentally wished themselves back into newborns around the same time Trunks was born, I think.
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I thought he broke this ship because of the threats years ago
I guess it is official?
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>>142571015
>>142571108
If they made the wish during the android saga they should be at leas teenagers now, unless the dragon made them into literal newborn babies
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>>142585907
>If they made the wish during the android saga they should be at leas teenagers now, unless the dragon made them into literal newborn babies
What makes you think he didn't?
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>>142585896
>threats

What?

>>142585907
> unless the dragon made them into literal newborn babies

Maybe not literal newborn babies, but 1 to 2 year old. Enough for them to still be close Trunks's age as they appear to be in Super.
However, it is not like Toriyama will ever bother properly explaining it. I doubt he will.
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>>142583418
Are you the bigger loser who follows the posts of a random anon? Get lost you pathetic little /v/ermin fuccboi.
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>>142586066
He was threaten by mai waifu fags
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>>142586316
Please, don't get angry. You are scaring me, anon.
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>>142586355
>He was threaten by mai waifu fags

I can sympathize, but threatening others because of fictional characters is a bad thing no matter what.
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>>142585896

What threats? Such things never happened.

And it was Toei that removed those interactions in the retellings for some reason, which was stupid in the first place.
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>>142586355
>mai waifu fags

As in "Maifags that had her as waifu"? Nonsense, Maifags were almost unnexistent before 2013. I would have believed you a bit more if you were talking about fujos, and still, a lot of japanese fans embraced ToraMai and patiently waited for more ever since Super started.
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it's such a random nonsense pairing don't know what to think of it
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So is Future Trunks gonna be stuck on goku's timeline?
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>>142586758
Don't tell me that the resources needed to power up the Time Machine is only available on Future Trunks's timeline and not on the Super/current timeline?

If not, there's always the Dragon Balls.
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>>142586689
>Lunch
>Two women for the price of one

if the bedroom is too tame just put grab the pepper shaker
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>>142586758
damn i didn't notice that

well bulma forced monaka to fill the entire thing so if that's fuel i bet trunks has enough fuel to return

or maybe he even has enough to just bring goku and vegeta to the future
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>>142586685
I watched the original Dragonball first and gave zero shits about any of the girls so Mai edged out slightly over Bulma and Chichi by having the best design.
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>>142588296

Hence "almost".
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>>142576748
Launch gets shrunk down, and dates Goten for more /ss
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>>142584916
Well shit you dumb FUCK
Wow i wunder who else has blueee hair Hmmmmm
Fuck i guess this new guy is maybe stronger then BLUE HAIR GOKKU so maybe he has to be stronger than BLUE HAIR TRUNKS
fuck use your head you sack of shit
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>>142561037
>Mai just tried to kill Bulma and Goku multiple times, it´s no big deal.
>Bulma did the same with Vegeta.
Bluma shot Goku in the head with a gun in their first meeting. Basically, no one holds a grudge very long concerning personal injury, they only complain if you murder their friends.
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>>142590497
Lunch as a kid wouldn't really be the same as Mai who already has the mindset as a child so it's funny
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