KyoAni is basically just a shitty version of Shaft. Discuss.
Shaft never had to resort to cute girls doing cute things. They're all about the story. Hell, one of their best selling anime is even called STORY!
>>142436990
Exactly. Even Hidamari Sketch is about the story, with a Tarantinoesque plot told out of order. When has KyoAni ever had a show with its plot out of order? That's right, never.
>>142437173
>>142437253
Please don't defile this thread with moeshit.
>>142436793
>Random subject
>Discuss
Go back tobasilmarket
>>142437285
>KyoAni is basically just a better version of Shaft. Discuss.
>>142427502
>>142437418
>bunny girl
>not moeshit
The fUCK?
>>142436793
Your post is basically just a shitty version of bait. Discuss.
>>142437498
It seems like you need to lurk some more.
>>142437548
It seems like you need to stop watching problematic moeshit.
>>142436793
I don't know what's worse, fujo pandering or the shameless otaku pandering cashgrab that is Monogatari.
>>142437748
Monogatari is literally the greatest anime series of the last decade.
>>142437779
Your mom is literally the greatest anime series of the last decade.
>>142437748
>Grr! I hate pandering that isn't pandering to ME specifically!
>>142437498
>bunny girl
>moeshit
The fUCK?
>>142437883
>The fUCK?
bunny girl
moeshit
>>142437882
I was kidding, anon. I love monogatari.
You, know Yoshinoya? anyway
He's starting a studio war, people
Kyoani has yet to kill any popular series.
How can KyoAni compete?
>>142438035
Good because I was being facetious myself.
>>142438382
Shaft also has yet to do this...? This post is like stating "Kyoani makes anime."
>>142438529
I like how you separated the rows into "cash cow trash" and "just trash"
>>142439373
Kyoani makes anime, shaft makes powerpoints
>>142439373
Kagerou Daze was the most popular LN that hadn't received an adaption yet at the time, and shaft ruined it worse than almost any other anime adaption of anything.
>>142439665
How so? Shaft realized the entire point of the story is that there are many different ways to interpret it and didn't hesitate to do their own thing. Not to mention, it actually sold really well.
>>142440794
>the entire point of the story is that there are many different ways to interpret it
Where are you getting that from?
>>142438529
It's really only been 6 seasons of Bakeshit? I feel like we have at least one of those every 2 seasons.
>>142441277
Bake, Nise, NekoKuro, SS, Tsuki, Owari, Koyomi, Kizu trilogy
>>142436793
Shaft is basically just a shitty version of Gainax. Discuss.
>>142439379
>"just trash"
All four of those shows were extremely well received outside of the den of elitist hipster bullshit known as /a/.
>>142438529
>mfw shaft is a one-trick pony
There's only so long you can milk a single franchise.
>>142441477
Sasami and Graffiti flopped
>>142441477
Koufuku and Sasami flopped.
>>142437822
My mom is monogatari so you're only proving me right.
>>142441277
>I am not very intelligent so my idea of a good insult is to combine the title with the word shit.
>>142441477
aka reddit and MAL? because those places are known for their great taste
>>142441680
>I am easily offended when someone calls a show I like shit.
>>142436793
What's KyoAni's version of Madoka Magica?
>>142441477
Salami and Konpaku flopped.
>>142441734
No, I'm easily annoyed by people who have no originality yet think they are extremely clever. I could think of so many clever ways to insult Bakemonogatari and then I see an idiotic post saying "Bakeshit." I'd like to stick a katana right through the throat of someone who makes a post like that.
>not liking both kyoani and shaft
the real shit studios here are trigger and gainax
>>142441840
>I'd like to stick a katana right through the throat of someone who makes a post like that.
Very original, fedora.
>>142441737
It could have been Haruhi but they went completely insane and decided to kill any chance of it ever getting another season by doing Endless Eight. Haruhi was then handed off to Satelight, which is a superior studio anyway.
>>142441872
You have good taste, anon.
>>142441872
Gainax is dead and Khara works with Trigger most of the time. Basically Trigger is Gainax 2.0
>>142441875
>fedora
So on top of everything else you have no sense of self-awareness.
>>142441941
Better, deeper plot, but lacked the big names and marketing to make it a Madoka killer.
>>142441940
You're projecting now.
>>142441569
They are the masters of it, however. Keep in mind that Monogatari is far from the first franchise they have milked. They make as much money as they possibly can and then move on to the next hit. I don't think I need to tell you what that will be.
>>142442003
>projecting
Jesus, it never ends.
>>142441840
>>142436793
The worst thing about the Kyonai fanbase is how desparate they are to invent some other group to argue with.
No other studio attracts such a violent, deluded circlejerk, yet Kyonaifags will keep assuming that other such fansbases exist, for the sole purpose of projecting their own retardation onto others.
Newsflash: nobody makes back-to-back threads about SHAFT's "visual direction", and you won't find anyone using phrases like "God-ainax" or "Madhouse finds a way." Kyoani is the only studio that attracts a group of fanboys so desparate to shill for their favorite studio on an anonymous image board.
It's not that I hate Kyoani - it's actually a pretty great group of directors and animators. What really pisses me off is the degree of "studio war" shitposting that surrounds every one of their shows on /a/ - all of it coming from either the Kyoani internet defense force, or falseflaggers pretending to be from some non-existent SHAFT or P.A. Works cult.
>>142442105
The more common definition of edgy is "irritable," as in "on edge." I have no idea how kids on 4chan came to treat "edgy" as a term for... well, that.
>>142441840
Do you legitimately have autism? Is referring to a show as shit offensive to you because it's not clever and original? This isn't a fucking stage put on for your entertainment it's a discussion imageboard, you don't have to come up with some grandiose way of sharing your opinions.
Also I'll call your bluff give me 5 insulting nicknames fore monogatari I've never heard before.
>>142442181
>"Madhouse finds a way."
I actually do this all the time, privately.
>>142442185
autism
>>142441477
mekaku flopped
>>142442240
Once again, I said I find it ANNOYING, not OFFENSIVE. Please stop projecting your own insecurities on others. If you annoy me I will tell you how annoying you are and how much I would like to kill you. Simple as that.
Also the point is that "insulting nicknames" are not a clever way to insult the show. The way to do it is to make very subtle troll threads that bait hundreds of replies.
>>142441872
>he hasn't watched GOAT inferno cop
Please, lurk more
>>142442273
Mekashit actually did well despite being fucking garbage.
>>142442181
>god*
>* finds a way
You do knowing that it was made for the sake of shitposting, and it's not even made by kyoAnifags itself.
>Shitty version of Shaft
How can you be a shitty version of shit?
>>142442353
Inferno Cop is shit. Ninja Slayer is where they did something truly amazing with the idea. However Ninja Slayer drew in a bunch of retards who took it way too seriously and got offended that it had intentionally cheap animation. I don't know why the Inferno Cop fanbase disappeared when they were needed the most. Truly a letdown, much like Inferno Cop.
>>142442322
I got second hand embarrassment from reading this
>>142442467
Even SHAFTfags hated it. It was pretty bad all around.
>>142442435
Then maybe it's time for you to taste my blade. Kakugo shite...
>>142442467
The anime didn't flop because it was bundled with charasong which was the reason why people bought it in the first place.
>>142441477
Name me one source outside of /a/ who can name Koufuku and Sasami right off the bat.
>>142442322
Annoyed is a fucking synonym to offended, you fucking dumbass. But fine, if it's so important to you, you can swap the worded 'offended' with 'annoyed' and it will have the same effect. Unless you want to deflect again.
>the point is that "insulting nicknames" are not a clever way to insult the show
Nice backpedalling, you still haven't given shit you creatively bankrupt autist.
>>142442511
Then they're not true Shaftfags. I am the truest Shaftfag because I have not watched a single show by them that I did not enjoy. And it's not just because of their name. Everything they do genuinely appeals to me on a personal level. I understand that not everyone is going to feel the same but you have to consider that there is a reason why people might have enjoyed Mekakucity.
Janitor on suicide watch
>mods deleting posts
butthurt
I tried watching Monogatari but it was just too fucking slow, I get it, they have their style, but most of the time nothing is happenning at all, which is fine once in a while, but gets tiring if its every single episode.
Kyoani doesn't really make many stuff I even watch, but I enjoy some of their stuff.
For free, he does it on the weekend.
>>142442783
>faggots derailing into neo-/a/ shit
They deserved it. Really this studio wars shit shouldn't even be tolerated on /a/ when people treat it like /v/ console wars.
>>142442793
You should enjoy SHAFT's direction to enjoy monogatari though.
>>142442601
I don't believe you. There is almost nothing positive to say about mekaku as an adaption. If you already knew about the series, the anime failed to animate the parts you wanted to see. If it was new to you, then you got a confusing clusterfuck of shit that is was never explained.
>>142442601
>Then they're not true Shaftfags. I am the truest Shaftfag because I have not watched a single show by them
Now this I can believe
>>142442181
>non-existent SHAFT [... ] cult.
are you this dumb or are you just pretending?
>>142442967
It was new to me but I didn't find it confusing at all. Maybe you just weren't paying enough attention? Happened with G-Reco too.
>>142442575
I DID give you shit. Come on, dude. This thread is a good example, though I didn't create it. If someone wanted to piss off Monogatari fans the best way to do it would be false flagging with a post like OP's.
>creatively bankrupt autist
Now isn't this deliciously ironic?
>>142442601
as a truer Shaftfag than you I apreciate Mekaku merely as quick buck to be made at the expense of the Mekaku fan base and don't really care about the show, it was all intern work anyway
>>142443094
There is no equivalent to the Kult of Kyonai on /a/, SHAFT-based or otherwise.
If you think otherwise, you're deluding yourself.
>>142443104
I should have said that it was a confusing clusterfuck either way, because the ending of the anime was not a proper ending. It didn't explain the purpose behind any of the shit that happened, and none of the other material in the series has gotten up to that point so there is still no explanations anywhere.
>>142443316
You keep saying Kyonai. Is this supposed to be wordplay of some sort?
>>142442181
To be honest I say godani just to piss of /v/ and people like you. The last Kyoani show I watched was Lucky Star Star and it was boring as hell.
>>142443309
Explain how any of that would make you a "truer Shaftfag". You sound to me like a shitposter.
>>142443349
Maybe he's just very ignorant of what he's talking about and stringing people along just to shitpost.
>>142443349
The word "Kyoani" fills me with such a rage that I'm forced to type it three times as fast as anything else - this makes it hard to check for spelling errors.
>>142443347
So what exactly is the problem? Shaft adapted something that hardly had any material to adapt in the first place. Why wouldn't they do their own thing? It had what a rational-minded person would call an ending that is open to interpretation. Plenty of movies have this kind of ending and are hailed as masterpieces.
>>142443437
This is a form of autism that I've never seen before. You are way more obsessed with KyoAni than any of those alleged cultists.
>>142443437
Ah, so you turn red?
>>142443316
>B-But we are not like them
Shaft defense force is almost as bad as Kyanifags.
>>142443513
There is no "SHAFT defense force". Search the archives, you know it to be true.
>>142443622
>search the archives
>deleted post linking to the Shaft Defense Force IRC channel
>schemes to destroy Kyoani cult
Hmm.
>>142443622
It is hard to defend SHAFT after the turds they put out, I agree.
>>142443622
Explain pic related.
>>142443622
I don't need to search any fucking archives, I've witnessed it firsthand. In fact, I'm witnessing it right now.
>>142443622
You are the living proof anon but you are trying to hard and is backfiring on you.
>>142443815
Is that SEED? The colours look similar to me.
>>142443458
If the ending is open to interpretation, why have I never seen it discussed anywhere?
>>142437418
You do realize it's 2016 now, not 2006, right?
>>142444372
This, at least post modern Haruhi(Phantom World ep7).
>>142444223
Because the western anime fanbase is full of retards who don't like to think about the shows they've watched and instead move on to the next piece of waifu trash. If you want to see discussions you have to go to the Japanese boards.
>>142444433
Phantom World is not good. I didn't even make it to episode 7 before giving up.
>>142444444
>>142444372
>You do realize it's 2016
THE CURRENT YEAR
>>142444649
Episode 7 is literally a Haruhi adaptation.
>>142444665
>>142444649
>Phantom World
At least Shaftfags knew Mexico City Actors was shit and don't try to spin it as ultrasecret AOTY.
>>142444693
What do you mean? Is it worth watching the rest of the show for? Hell, does the show improve at all in general past episode 5? I don't know whether I should give it another chance.
>>142444221
It's Madoka Magica.
>>142443735
Link or screenshot or it didn't happen.
>>142444771
Which is basically a remake of SEED, all told.
>>142444737
Shaftfags would have if it wasn't blatantly shit.
The connection to vocaloid shit kind of gave it away, where as Phantom World had no such connection.
>>142444795
Too late, archivists caught on and deleted it from the archives. Can't post the IRC link or I'd get banned, and I'm not gonna bite the bullet for someone I don't even know.
>>142444760
It does. It's not a huge jump in quality but the episodic storylines become much more competent and interesting.
>>142444760
You'll see. And yeah, it actually does improve after ep 5 but isn't really about anything.
>>142444737
Regardless of how bad you think it is, MCA is many times better than Phantom World.
That said, the ultrasecret AOTY is by Bones. And probably not what you think it is.
>>142444833
Are you saying that being vaguely associated with vocaloid makes something shit?
>>142444798
Don't shitpost, Madoka is a remake of Ryuki with magical girls.
>>142444911
To be fair, even as someone who's both a fan of Kyoani and dropped both of those shows, Mekaku wasn't anywhere as bad as Phantom World.
Also the AOTY already aired and is by Deen.
>>142444987
Rakugo was great. I don't think it'll be AOTY though.
>>142445061
I don't really see any other contenders for the slot, personally.
>>142444847
>>142444865
Alright, I'll trust you and try it again at some point. Mainly because it wouldn't be the first time my opinion of a show increased after the halfway point. I think perhaps anime watchers in general have become conditioned into dropping things too early.
>>142444987
>Madoka is a remake of Ryuki with magical girls.
Seed is basically a remake of Ryuki, all told. Yeah, they remade it pretty quickly. Gotta be ahead of the curve.
>>142445095
I like Hibike slightly more.
>>142445095
There is one, and its name contains the letters Concrete Revolutio.
![[HorribleSubs] Concrete Revolutio - 22 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.35_[2016.06.03_20.54.59].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4eZJBbm.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Concrete Revolutio - 22 [720p].mkv_snapshot_15.35_[2016.06.03_20.54.59].jpg")
>>142445182
Oh don't get me wrong, ConRevo has been amazing lately, but I still think Rakugo is by far the best.Can't wait for the Autumn season to smash me with another AOTY out of nowhere like it happened for the last 3 years
>>142444922
Not necessarily, but it does decrease how good it is.
It's kind of like throwing shit into your soup. All you have to do is dilute it enough and cook it well enough that you don't taste or feel its effects.
I can't wait till you defend vocaloids.
>>142444922
Vocaloid is very popular with the exact type of people /a/ despises, so it has a very easily triggered hatebase. Even though all it really is is music.
>>142445402
Shitty music for the most part. At least the vocal part (which is the part that remains consistent as it defines what a vocaloid song is).
It sounds like robots vomiting.
>>142445402
>Vocaloid is very popular with the exact type of people /a/ despises
Japanese people?
>>142436793
kyoani>shaft
I´m not even a kyoani fan.
>>142445542
Fujoshi.
>>142445627
Ugh yeah man, all those dirty fujoshi obsessing over Japanese girls. ...What the fuck?
>>142445543
>I'm a casual anime fan and I watch all my anime dubbed on television.
Yeah, I know.
>>142445747
When fujoshi aren't doing their thing, they are listening to vocaloids because they feel like they can identify with them. Also, are you implying there are no male vocaloids?
Fucking moron.
>>142445864
There are barely any, which is why it makes no sense that fujoshi would be attracted to Vocaloid for that reason. And how the fuck can they identify with them. Did you do crack, weed, or LSD before making this post? Which was it?
>NES dominated
>SNES dominated
>In one generation Sony took over the home console marketshare with PS1 and all third party companies practically stopped caring about Nintendo home consoles even to this day
What the fuck happened? Did Sony bribe them?
>>142445940
Fuck off gigguk
>>142445926
>And how the fuck can they identify with them.
Most vocaloids are edgy teenage girls.
How are you not getting this? Are you pretending to be retarded?
>>142446005
Who's that?
>>142446024
Are you pretending to not be on drugs? Because it's not working. THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS!
>>142446028
I'm guessing some tripfag. Who gives a fuck?
Not sure why you're using "anonymous" as a name btw.
>>142445953
Goddamn, this is so related to anime, dude.
>>142446107
I just did that to shit on a tripfag. Forgot to remove it
>>142436793
Hotel Voynich when?
>>142446209
Madhouse is doing that.
