KILL IT WITH FIRE. NISIO IS A FUCKING HACK.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-06-03/3rd-monogatari-off-season-novel-nademonogatari-slated-for-july-29/.102831
>>142385037
You upset that Nisio actually writes instead of fucking playing idol games until it'stime to buy a new mercedes?
>>142385037
It's hard to stop cancer.
Monogatari is finished though.
>>142385798
Nope, it'll never end. It's Niso's Tu-Love-Ru and Dragonball. The Haruhi dude could of ended up like that,too if he wanted to but he pocketed the money and retained rights to the franchise so he could live off royalty checks from other studios and Panchinko machines
>>142385037
new season of monogatari. How do I feel about this?
>>142385798
It's not exacly.
I miss Shaft pre-2009.
Monogatari was okay at first but now it's getting ridiculous.
>>142385037
holy shit i need money, lets do another light novel
>>142386186
I still want Nisio to give some closure to surten things in Monogatari, I was exacly dissapointed if he'd ended it like this.
>>142386312
Man I think you gotta know, it's certain not surten. Great job sounding it out though.
>>142385037
So how many times has this series supposedly ended now?
>>142385037
what happened to sengoku after losing her medusa form?
will she ever get relevant again?
>SHAFT will be making Monogatari anime for the next decade at least
>>142386519
Will Shinbo die before the end of Monogatari?
>>142385909
>The Haruhi dude could of ended up like that
He made the right choice.
>>142386551
The style manual will still exists after he dies. I see no problems.
He announced this half a year ago
It's part of a set of spin-off stories, the "main story" final LN came out almost two years ago
>>142386519
It's not as big a cash cow for them as it was 5 years ago so I doubt it.
I see no problems with this. Its not like he's prolonging an existing main plotline. He's just making new ones. I'd rather him do that. Else we get garbage like those shounens that last a ridiculous amount of time following the same damn plot with the only thing keeping it up is tacked on power-ups/issues.
>>142386551
Shinbou has more than enough clones to do his work for him at this stage.
>>142386519
It is turning into sunrise.
>>142385037
NADEMONOGATARI
ARE WE GETTING MORE SNAKE
IS IT HAPPENING
Which ends first, Gatari or Fate?
>>142386778
Gatari, considering it's already ended.
>>142386778
One piece.
>>142386186
Same, I guess I should just be glad that Zetsubou Sensei got more than one cours, but goddamn was it good. They were like Trigger if Trigger wasn't shit.
>>142386809It won't
>>142385037
This motherfucking won't stop milking this shitstorm until he's dead. Someone take one for the team.
>>142386551
"Shinbo" is actually a vampire girl.
>>142386828
>Same, I guess I should just be glad that Zetsubou Sensei got more than one cours, but goddamn was it good. They were like Trigger if Trigger wasn't shit.
SHAFT kept making more SZS way beyond its profitable point. So since Monogatari actually sells, they have zero reasn to stop, ever.
>>142385037
I don't follow the novels but wasn't the main story supposed to be over already? Is this just a side story?
>>142386858
>This motherfucking won't stop milking this shitstorm until he's dead. Someone take one for the team.
He had to eat, you know. The man had to earn a living.
>>142386897
SZS as well as Hidamari have a very loyal fanbase. They usually end up selling 7k-10k which is good enough to make more seasons.
>>142386828
Trigger has never made anything good aside from little witch which the west entirely funded.
>>142386910
>I don't follow the novels but wasn't the main story supposed to be over already? Is this just a side story?
What's so strange about it? Nearly every major novel franchise has spin off books. Even Harry Potter.
>>142386934
AT WHAT COST
One day people will start becoming bored of his stuff like they became bored of index.
>>142386897
>they have zero reasn to stop, ever.
But then y no haruhi?
Doesn't have much to do with Shaft to be honest. They're not going to be adapting the Off Season stories, Monogatari isn't a big bucks maker for them period anymore and these are all filler-tier stories essentially. They'll adapt the final volume of Owari, maybe Zoku which rounds off the main story and then move onto the next thing for you guys to criticize the lack of animation over.
>>142387000
He's only doing these spin-off stories at all because there's a demand there, the story is pretty much already finished.
Monogatari is cancer.
I'm glad Nisio has massive insecurities about not being a "real" writer because he really fucking isn't.
>>142386186
madoka is their best show by far, though.
>>142387000
It got boring after 1 season.
>>142385037
Only good part was the first season. It went downhill after that.
>>142386971
>citing HP as a) a good novel and b) an good example of running a career/franchise
Fucking hell /a/. The only thing it did right was completely cede to the film studio. JK is a literal hack and can't strike out with new ideas, to the point where she's spinning of HP now because people wouldn't care otherwise.
>>142385037
Does this one have teen Shinobu in it or something
>>142386971
I agree. I was asking because if it's just a side story I don't understand why people are getting so mad about it.
>>142385037
Everything after bakemono was a mistake
>>142387083
Bake was the second worst season, only Nise was (considerably) worse.
>>142387085
>JK is a literal hack
Fucking this, Harry Potter is as bad as or worse than your average light novel, and your average light novel is absolute pandering trash.
>>142387055
>>142386707
Monogatari still sells well, why would SHAFT stop?
![[Commie] Monogatari Series Second Season - 23 [18F0E56B].mkv_snapshot_06.48_[2014.07.23_02.35.08].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iz6Wm8r.jpg "[Commie] Monogatari Series Second Season - 23 [18F0E56B].mkv_snapshot_06.48_[2014.07.23_02.35.08].jpg")
>>142385037
>More snake
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODDESS
>>142385037
This is literally old news. We knew he was writing another novel, we just didn't know when it would be released.
>>142387085
>>citing HP as a) a good novel and b) an good example of running a career/franchise
I said no such thing. It is a major novel franchise that got a spinoff, whether it is good or bad is irrelevant. And I see no point telling an author to quite working and retire just because you want him/her to.
>>142386186
Their old shows are the same except with actual bad animation (not highly allocated and dispersed animation)
>>142387166
Light novels are literally young adult novels. Shit like Twilight, Hunger Games, Harry Potter, Divergent, etc are the west equivalent to Bakemono, Haruhi, SAO.
>>142387186
>This is literally old news.
Just like everything else on ANN
>>142387168
>Monogatari still sells well
It did 4-5 years ago, it doesn't anymore. It'd make more sense for them to adapt a different Nisei LN like Zaregoto or something at this point.
>>142387079
>>142387083
Bake is good and does a splendid job setting the tone, but it follows a really obvious formula and is just a setup for things to come. The payoff to most arcs only comes on SS.
>>142387182
Someone kill this fucking thing!
>>142387166
JK ended Harry Potter though
She's making a movie about Fantastic Beasts, but that's like one hundred years before Harry Potter
Nisio is going to be doing his """"ironic""""" highschool harem until the end of time
>>142386569
By doing nothing and never finishing the story? Say what you will about Nisio but at least he respects his fans and deliver a product. Others just can't even bother to keep shipping their fucking product in the first place. Fuck you GRRM.
>>142387238
No it still sells good, it just doesn't put up record breaking numbers.
>>142387238
27K sales is still great sales though, and they've been scaling down budget since nise.
>>142387238
Are you insane? Sure it doesn't sell 80K like it used to but is still a great seller, other studios would kill to have a franchise as bankable as this, what are you talking about?
>>142387238
...? 4 years ago there was only nisemonogatari, and bakemonogatari which was / is several years old.
>>142387254
>Nisio is going to be doing his """"ironic""""" highschool harem until the end of time
One can only hope
Imagine it anon, a world with hundreds of episodes of -gatari, a series too large and dense for newcomers to enter easily. Give it time, give it ten years, and in that time -gatari will be as much a right of passage as LoGH is now.
>>142387232
>literally young adult novels
They differ in pretty significant ways, mainly in the fact that light novels are almost always illustrated. What really makes them light novels is their publication format, lots of them are published in a larger collection, similar to how manga is published.
>>142387368
>-gatari will be as much a right of passage as LoGH is now.
It already is.
>>142387254
>highschool harem
For what it's worth, it's barely even a harem anymore at the point the story is at
hell you guys would probably like it more if it was to be honest
So a story ends, and a/ considers the characters can be thrown away? That an author can decide they were only good enough to show a few days in their life?
What do you think a character IS, for an author? Who wouldn't want to see a character he created, live to experience more things, grow and age and evolve?
No the author didn't create these characters for you. But for himself. Then if it can be exploitable, it's great, but you're NOT to decide what he's supposed to do with them.
>>142387238
>25k
>not good sales
Faggot. I wish my favorite series could sell like that.
>>142387368
*rite
>popular novelist writes another novel in his popular
>people are upset
>they probably don't even read them
Absolutely autistic.
>>142387083
>>142387115
That only really applies to the anime. The content of the novels is more or less the same quality throughout.
>>142387424
>>>/highschoolenglishclass/
>>142387239
There's no payoff for such garbage writing.
>>142385037
I am the bone of my light novel
Paper is my body and ink is my blood
I have created over a thousand gataris
Unknown to SHAFT, Nor known to Good Taste
Have withstood pain to create many waifus
Yet, these hands will never hold anything
So as I pray, unlimited monogatari works.
>>142387512
>>142387257
Probably cause the author realized the series he wrote was shit and just doesn't want to bother anymore cause I don't blame him.
>>142387453
>they probably don't even read them
I would if translators could somehow translate before the novel is adapted into an anime and that anime gets translated.
That said I did read Kizu years before the movie came out so I wasn't all that hype
>>142387368
Magnificent
>>142387374
The illustrations don't matter. The biggest difference is probably length, the longest light novels are maybe 200 pages while YA novels have a tendency to be very long (though some aren't).
What happened in the end of the novels anyway?
>>142387401
Oh give me a break, it's totally a fucking harem.
It's no coincidence that Ararafaggot only ends up helping out cute chicks with the prospensity to wear pajamas, thigh highs, and other fetishes.
>>142387597
Yeah I'm drunk as fuck, this is what I meant to write.
>>142387616
>at the point the story is at
>>142387606
He grows up and gets a Volks Beetle.
>>142387597
SAO Volume 9 is over 400 pages, and that's far from the longest LN.
>>142387597
Isn't the Kizu translation like 300 pages long?
>>142387641
Out of curiosity, how much of /a/ drunk posts? I almost always browse drunk, am I an alcoholic or do you guys do this too?
I wonder if the new novel will have themes of fakeness and authenticity and make some deep commentary on how cruelness is the result of a broader sociological concept
cool news, i guess. not like anyone should be surprised by this. i hope shaft does end up animating these side stories; the one about hanekawa in europe temporarily becoming a vampire sounds interesting
>>142387697
>>142387695
YA novels can be even longer than that, upward of 800 or 1000 pages sometimes, at least back when I read them.
Kaiki spinoff when?
>>142387616
Learn to fucking read nigger.
>>142386890
are you just pretending
>>142387597
LNs are between 200 and 300 pages long usually. Some even reaching 400 or more. 200 is definitely not the longest you can find.
>>142387727
Only on weekends. To dull the pain of being alone.
>>142387742
>have themes of fakeness and authenticity
To be fair many anime have this as a central theme.
Eva, Utena, Yahari, -monogatari, and probably more that don't immediatly jump to mind
>>142387606
Araragi moves out of town to go to college, only girls he's "with" is Crab and Bat
Cat is globe-trotting like she said she would
Snail is the new Shrine Goddess of the town
Doll's still at the Araragi household protecting Bird
Monkey was depressed for a while but gets over it
Same with Snake I guess
>>142387851
Hyouka devoted a few chapters to it. It's pretty cliche at this point.
>>142387742
>cruelness is the result of a broader sociological concept
What does this even mean?
>>142387859
What happen with Bird and Bee? Did they ever get over her obvious crush on their brother? Pls tell me they still want the araracock.
>>142387859
>only girls he's "with" is Crab and Bat
Why's the quotation marks? Is he not properly dating Crab anymore?
>>142387851
All of those only deal with those themes in a superficial way. That's why anime is garbage that can't compete with western literature.
>>142388025
Backpedalling much?
>>142387996
The quotation marks were more for Bat than Crab, given how weird their relationship is. Yeah he's still dating Crab.
>>142387956
They're still close, he doesn't live there anymore though and all. Bee's busy with high school now and Bird is doing the hero thing by herself or some shit.
>>142385037
Well at least he's passionate about keeping his creation going, unlike another people.
>>142388097
>Yeah he's still dating Crab
Hope he walked her home gently and often.
>>142388119
Sometimes I wish Kawakami or Kamachi can give their writing speed to him.
>>142388119
He must hate the series. It could be he wrote Haruhi just to pay the bills and thought it was garbage and then got trapped in the capitalism machine.
It happen to countless authors over the years, one that always comes to mind was the author of The Smurf, the dude LOVED to make a different story where the Smurf became secondary characters of said series until they became more famous than the original series on itself and the dude got trapped making Smurf comics for the rest of his life.
>>142388119
He stopped making Haruhi because Kadokawa being the filthy jews they are stripped him clean of all the rights to his own franchise and won't pay him what he deserves.
>>142387859
It's implied that Sodachi is at Araragi & Gahara's college too
and Ougi is either following Kanbaru around or is just wandering around town spooking people for fun now
>>142387777
>Kaiki
>a guy who isn't part of the harem
>having a proper spinoff
Ha!
>>142388475I guess that doesn't rule out an Oshino spinoff atleast
Kaiki will probably reappear in the next Kanbaru one if/when that happens, the last Kanbaru one featured Kanbaru's mother talking to her and the topic of Kaiki came up. She tells Kanbaru that, the next time she sees Kaiki, to tell him that he should stop acting like a faggot and act his age and that he should just move on with his life already instead being depressed over a failed relationship from over a decade ago
>>142388025
>western literature.
If you include Russia in this then yes, Hemingway might be the only author I like more than Dostoevsky.
>>142387238
Zaregoto is getting an anime.
>>142388987
>Zaregoto
>Anime
Are you shitting me? Seriously? Damn is being so long since I read the first novel that I don't even remember how the crime was committed.
IT JUST PRINTS MONEY.
>>142389127
The article in the OP actually mentions it right at the end.
>>142388693
didn't tooe say that in zoku when she's taking a bath with araragi?
implying tis is bad news? he's milking the series,. i have no problem on tis, monogatari are one of the unique premise i'll be looking forward to see each season come out,.
*i'll just glad to keep hearing maaya voice on shinobu, tis probably the best thing i like in the series
>people seriously freaking out about this
We've known about this for months, retards. There's going to be Musubimonogatari this year, too.
>>142386186
hidamari>SZS>Monogatari>PMMM
But the first season of SZS is their best
>>142386945
You know that LWA was funded by the jap government right? Only the second OVA was fan funded.
I unironically wish Monogatari never ends.
is monkey in it?
>new monogatari novel
>it's all about snake shit
what a fucking hack
>>142392185
The other two books had 3 arcs each, but since monkey already had one in oroka they might get characters that didn't have off-season stories first like Crab and Snail.
>>142392185
she's always in it
>>142392334
>you will never fuck Monkey in the ass
>>142385037
>The Twitter account also notes that the character Nadeko Sengoku will play a major role the story.
>>142393737
But she's reformed now.
>>142385139
I don't like Nisio very much, just a Shaft fag, at this point though Shaft you give up on the whole adapting all of Monogatari thing, Nisio just taking advantage of them at this point, how much of this to you want to them to fucking animate at this point Nisio? You gonna make LotGH look like a seasonal fling at this point
>>142386619
he ingranes it in the bones of all Shaft employees as part of the initiation, no escape
>>142387424
>show a few days
All the Monogatari characters have developed enormously throughout the main series. Nishio is just grasping for straws now and making up shit to keep this series going. Monogatari isn't even as big as it used to be. People are starting to move on.
>>142385909
>retained rights to the franchise
Wait, they can do that? What did Kadokawa keep, then?
>>142387742
Homestuck should have stopped at Cascade
Some of Act 6 was decent but it wasn't worth it
There has never been any decent interaction with Shinaobu and Senjougahara. If this off-season shit ends then for the next season I hope he does something with this.
