I've just finished it and I can't understand why is it considered "a hidden gem". I had seen Ergo Proxy and Serial Experiments Lain before. Don't get me wrong, I'm not stupid, I understanded the show. All this inevitable end concept is pretty sweet, but is it really the case when i have to suffer as much as characters by being forced to sit through all the boring suff (which is like, 80% of it)? Also: why did the protagonist lose his limbs? I can't recollect that.
It is the best anime ever made.
How can you say you understand the show if you don't even remember it? Also, when you say that you "understand" a work of art and then proceed to pick a single thought or moment from it as the entirety of its worth, it's pretty clear that you are full of shit.
>>142243369
It is awesome at being what it is (which many people won't like, I admit). But it actually is art. I honestly can't conceive hoe they hoped to get the production money back.
>>142243369
>hidden gem
By fucking whom? It's very well-known.
Also
>I'm not stupid
>Just finished this
>why did the protagonist lose his limbs? I can't recollect that.
You're pretty fucking stupid.
>>142243369
I dont personally think it was all that boring.
I can understand the first 10 episodes being a little to slow, but Yoshii and the surface episodes made up for it.
While it's one of my personal favorites i can understand how people would find it boring, not everyone is autistic enough to sit trough 10 minutes of silence per episode.
For me its about the atmosphere, the art style, the soundtrack and setting all working together so well.
>why did the protagonist lose his limbs?
He won a prostitute from a fighting match, and he punches her when she tried to stab his eye. And get punished by the Mob guys fot it
>>142243369
> I'm not stupid, I understanded
>>142243369
fucking summerfags
![Texhnolyze - 20 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png](https://i.imgur.com/pLKemzV.png "Texhnolyze - 20 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0001.png")
So far it's one of my favorite anime ever.
Everyone was great
>>142243909
get fucked.
>>142243369
it's okay
Does a nice job of showing the horrific aspects of prosthetics.
But it IS very boring.
>>142243369
It's right up there with the other gods of anime such as NGE, Lain, and LotGH. Personally it is my 2nd favorite anime behind LotGH but you could make a strong argument for it being the best.
It is 100% the best anime of the 21st century though, there is definitely no doubt about that.
>>142243964
Dem Edward hopper references made my dick wet.
>>142243964
>perspective makes no sense
>terrible placement of the character in the frame
>character looks as if she was just pasted into the background without thought
>mentally retarded lighting
but, you know, it's automatically perfect because it references a famous piece of art!11
>>142243995
>But it IS very boring.Post a Reply
I for one couldn't keep from being amazed at the characters, atmosphere, design, music and such from the first episode to the end.
>>142244099
Ran has the most beautiful eyes.
>>142244139
yep. I fell in love with Hopper after watching Texhnolyze. His work also influenced The Road To Perdition with Tom Hanks too.
>>142244175
The entire overworld is inspired by his paintings.
And Hopper is bitching man, I mostly dislike American painters but Hopper is in my top 5 probably.
>>142243995
I can see how it would be boring if you are a teenager. Once you grow up you'll learn to appreciate it.
>>142243369
>why did the protagonist lose his limbs? I can't recollect that
How the fuck can you forget that did you start watching this show before going into a fucking coma?
>>142243369
Pretty great imo. A very honest depiction on the lack of clear meaning to life and how people cope with it.
>>142243745
>He won a prostitute from a fighting match
I'm fairly certain he went into the match to win money for food. The underground fighting ring was being run by the mob and the mob lady was watching the match. He caught hereyeand she was super into him so she wouldn't pay him unless he had sex with her.
>>142244324
Meh. I was in my fifties when I tried this turgid piece of shit. The first episode just waved its art in my face for 20-odd minutes, and the second flipped over into torture porn.
Oh, it's another "I hate popular thing" thread
>>142244889
>50s
Should have said 30s, that'd have been mildly believable.
>>142244956
>texhnolyze
>popular
nope. I see Hyouka, KyoAni, Bebop, Haruhi shit and all that but hardly ever a mention of this.
>>142244970
You don't believe that there are seniors posting on /a/? It's not like there's an upper age limit in the rules.
>>142244175
>perspective makes no sense
Yeah, weird, it's almost like it's supposed to be offputting or something.
>>142245014
Lurk the hell more, newfag.
>>142245103
what does that even mean?
>everything is massive compared to the character on the bed
>background is literally two-dimensional
>shadows are acting retarded
>character fails to blend into the background
are you seriously trying to say this is all intentional?
>>142244889
>50s
Are you sure the nurses would approve of you using the home's internet to be posting here?
>>142245147
I come here often. You'll be lucky to see one thread dedicated to Texhnolyze in 6 months.
Mostly it's just fans of Texhnolyze posting in Lain threads because of the association with Abe and Konaka.
I wouldn't say it was boring, but with the exception of the last two episodes, it was underwhelming. It's done in a slow and le artsy way, but never actually justifies it with something. It's a vanilla story. I liked it when I watched it. Then I forgot most of it and don't really care. There's little to invest in and beyond a few simple concepts and yes ideas show presents are generally very simple, sometimes even naive, there's nothing to get out of it. It could've easily been made into a 12 episode anime without losing anything. Lain is better. Ghost Hound, too. And Tamers even. Not a bad show, just okay.
Oh, and Ergo Proxy fits with these only aestetically. It's a completely different thing otherwise.
>>142245192
Yes, nigger. The whole surface setting has elements of that stuff, and you can look at Hopper and de Chirico shit and see where they got it.
>>142245260
There's been at least 3 tex threads this moth alone.
Lurk more.
>>142245192
>>everything is massive compared to the character on the bed
>>background is literally two-dimensional
>>shadows are acting retarded
>>character fails to blend into the background
I don't agree with any of this.
>>142245260
>I come here often. You'll be lucky to see one thread dedicated to Texhnolyze in 6 months.
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/texhnolyze/type/op/
You clearly don't come here as often as you think.
>>142244256
The referenced painting looks much more pleasing to the eye than the Texhnolyze version.
>>142245353
>Ghost Hound, too.
opinion disregarded.
you just didn't get it.
the pacing is god tier. it's realistic and very necessary. the best episodes of the series are from the first ten. the last two episodes are the weakest although they were great too.
>>142245588
There's nothing wrong with the perspective. Get your eyes fixed.
Oh great, one of those shows that touches on a "mature element" but doesn't actually have any worth in its story or characters.
But because it explores a "theme" every criticism of the inner workings of the series can be thrown out the window.
Lain, this, Eva, whatever, are all a skeleton of an anime. No meat on the bones besides a "theme".
>>142245661
Stop being so desperate to defend it. they clearly don't have any eye for what makes Hopper work. I mean, to separate it from the thoroughly American context alone should be proof enough. It's nice that they tried and I doubt they actually did it to expect to win any 'reference points' with otaku, but it's frankly embarrassing more than anything
>>142245776
>Oh great, one of those shows that touches on a "mature element" but doesn't actually have any worth in its story or characters.
Says you?
>>142245776
>but doesn't actually have any worth in its story or characters.
Trolling hard I see.
Animes like Texhnolyze and their fans fall into the category of Monty Python's "French Subtitled Film".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbAohexT0Ho
I found it very relaxing, don't really see why so many people seem to find it boring or even hard to watch.
>>142245588
>this frame in a TV show doesn't look as good as the painting it's referencing with god knows how much work put into it
What a revelation. It still functioned well and gave off a strong sense of unease.
![Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png](https://i.imgur.com/7p6Gd8L.png "Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0002.png")
>>142245983
The part where Ran helps Ichise get out of the Sewer and pets him while he sleeps was really sweet and well done.
>>142246028
Every frame is a painting.
>>142246076
Yes, and they're making thousands of them with the intention that each will be shown briefly as part of the show. No one intended for that shot to be a better painting than Hopper's.
>people actually like that painting and "inspiration"
That shit was what finally broke me to put Texhnolyze into the pretentious hipster territory. Get some taste in art.
>>142243369
did the mc and the doctor girl actually fuck
>>142244716
THIS.
The show has two main points -- 1) as the anon said 'lack of meaning' -- or 'absurdism' -- think of Camus' - 'The Stranger'. 2) fatalism, don't forget that Ran told Ichise how the world would end. It was up to Ichise to realize it before fate made it happen. The real question is, if Ichise had taken her clairvoyance seriously, would he have been able to stop the eventual downward spiral, or affect some sort of greater change for himself, Ran, Lux, etc....
It's impressive how they make the life they all live in so shit but you still get sad when they die, even if you don't really know them. The ending was well sad man :(
>>142245777
>the thoroughly American context
Would you mind elaborating on this one? I've never found Hopper's works to be that closely connected to a single country. I guess maybe they've become more universal as time has passed, or it's just the perspective of non-americans.
>>142246279
He basically raped him once. She does it again, but the next time is a little sweeter to watch and not so creepy.
>>142246282
Yeh man, Camus was what I was referencing as well. I see the fatalism as the eventual and unavoidable death of absolutely everyone. I mean her prediction of him dyeing alone isn't really that magical, everyone dies alone.
>>142244099
>gods of anime
>Lain, and LotGH
fuck off moron
>>142246282
1) Absurdism and fatalism are retarded
2) There's no real question because show made it obvious it was unavoidable
So really the only reason Texhnolyze gets praised instead of called out for being redditor's first philosophy is because it's Japanese so it's ok.
Ran a cute, though.
>>142245776
but the theme is the only important part of a story
![Texhnolyze - 21 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0004.png](https://i.imgur.com/xlPdIWj.png "Texhnolyze - 21 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0004.png")
>>142246304
If all the characters were monsters and killers it would be different. But the people like Ran, Doc, and Onishi try to help and are kind at heart. That's why it's hard to watch them die.
>>142243369
It's fucking shit. Now go and fucking kill yourself.
>>142246567
>Absurdism and fatalism are retarded
Good job backing up that statement (you are retarded)
Point 2, I agree.
A lot of things are Japanese and they don't get praised. Ran is very cute even in comparison to moe shows (again a testament to the show).
The only reason this series keeps getting dragged up is the ABe designs and the association with Lain and Haibane Renmei, when it would be fairer to put Niea_7 with those two.
![Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png](https://i.imgur.com/fxj1Ht6.png "Texhnolyze - 07 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv-0003.png")
>>142246693
>Ran is very cute even in comparison to moe shows
I kinda wish she would've smiled at least once.
>>142246750
She deserved to smile.
I wonder what exactly Onishi was to blame for when it comes to what happened to his wife. Yoshii said it was Onishi's fault his wife became like she did, though Yoshii never said anything beyond that (it was during the scene were they fight each other). Onishi obviously regretted what had happened to his wife and stubbornly wouldn't let himself happiness by becoming closer to the secretary. I really liked the secretary, her final scene was the one that had the biggest impact on me.
>>142243745
He won a prostitute from a fighting match, and he punches her when she tried to stab his eye. And get punished by the Mob guys fot it
I think that the "prostitute" you're referring to was probably the wife of the gang's leader. What Ichise wins is most likely money, as that is what seems to be what the woman carries to him in an envelope while he's taking a shower. The intimacy of the scene implies that they're familiar with each other. Her going in while he showers (therefore him being "vulnerable") and being all intimate with him while he acts indifferently, implies she has some power over him. The woman doesn't let him grab the money she brought for him, as he first has to do what she wishes, which is pleasuring her. Ichise is clearly indifferent during the sex untill she goes too far. The leader was the one most likely watching and it was implied that he enjoys watching things like that, at least that's my interpretation of it. He did leave, probably got bored as this was something he probably watched regularly.
On second thought it might as well have been a precious prostitute to the leader, as her getting hurt was enough for them to chop two limbs off of Ichise. Her delivering the money implies she was trusted enough to do so, but she probably wouldn't dare to steal it if she was a prostitute either way. I'm leaning towards her being the wife of the leader of the gang.
>>142246402
I don't even know where to begin. His choice of landscape bleed american, especially in his urban paintings. His paintings resonate because they also engage in universal themes like loneliness, solitude, alienation, etc., and not just for its visual explorations of america, but even those are inherently American topics, both in their selection and in the way he approaches them. He also is strongly within a lineage of other American painters from the period. To most, Hopper is as fundamentally capital A American in painting as Eggleston is in photography
And if you just out the window here >>142244256
you can see the contrast from Hopper's very distinct north-eastern factory/warehouse & water tower (to me it strongly evokes New England or Boston) to texhnolyze's generic italianesque "european/western" landscape (eg gunslinger girls) and flowers - even the interior color scheme alternatively manages to evoke northeastern america for hopper, and western europe (or anime's generic interpretation of it) for texhnolyze.
>>142247091
Wasn't it implied that she lost her mind before the start of the series? I think that Onishi should have tried to be closer to his wife in her time of need instead of going for the secretary, but I'd understand. I thought the scene were he cleans up his wife after Yoshii kills her was both sad and beautiful in a way.
>>142246747
>Niea_7
Why is it so underappreciated?
>>142247735
I want Despera and a Ryushika anime!
>>142247735
I actually just finished watching it the other day.
I mean, it felt kinda pointless to me. The characters were alright, but I didn't see the point of half the characters even being in the show. It just felt really vague.
Loved the op and ed though.
>>142247163
Thanks for that, I think I see how one can view those as inherently American, though I wouldn't think of it myself. To me his paintings are, abridgely, set somwhere, as in their location never really mattered to me. As for Texhnolyze, I think they were going for generic landscape and architecture that can, in this day and age, be seen everywhere in order to avoid tying Lux and the surface world to a specific location.
>>142247735
Probably because the first 3 or 4 episodes are pretty bad. From the weed bathhouse onwards it really picks up.
Some of the best music.
>>142247258
>Wasn't it implied that she lost her mind before the start of the series?
Yes, I think what lead to her losing her mind most likely had to do with Onishi being able to hear the voice of the "city". His position as the leader of the gang most likely meant he wasn't spending much time with her. The nail in the coffin was that he was listening to the voice of the "city", as by in doing so he neglected her even more. Him talking with "someone" she couldn't about things she didn't know about, she must've felt her husband had turned his back against her and that he no longer loved her. From her perspective it might've as well have been a woman he was talking to who he loved more than his wife.
>>142246500
this entire thread is two idiots jerking each other off
pay no heed
>>142248901
>two idiots
Fairly sure you're the only one bitching and crying out of 30 unique IPs.
>>142248901
>>this entire thread is two idiots jerking each other off
30 unique IPs.
