What is the appeal of this series?
Nothing happens. It's just a string of one non-sequitur conversation to the next, ending in some contrived Japanese pun or a panty shot. Throw in some signature "artsy" Shaft shots and you've got a series with zero substance.
>>142067904
B-but muh waifus, muh powerpoint slides, muh memes!
What is the appeal of this series?
Nothing happens. It's just a string of one non-sequitur conversation to the next, ending in some contrived Japanese pun or an obscure joke. Throw in some signature meme reference and you've got a series with zero substance.
>>142067904
A few more buzzwords and you would have gotten yourself a bingo!
Whenever you see a panty shot or excessive cleavage, ask out loud "What could it mean?"
The appeal is the girls. People pretend to like the show because they like watching the girls.
>>142068015
False equivalence. People don't praise Gintama as some champion of intelligent well-written fiction.
/lit/ here. The books aren't that great either. Yes, I read them in nip. It's a lot of puns and teen angst disguised as maturity.
It's not something your stupid shounen ass would understand, op. I suggest you give up.
>>142068176
It's a sad state of affairs when I actually agree with a retard /lit/ fag. Nisio is fucking trash.
>>142068030
>>142068252
Don't explain why it's good or anything. Just attack the OP and spout memes.
>>142068298
It's not good, I just wanted to make fun of OP for such a lazy, baity post.
>>142067904
The memes.
A large portion of otaku in Japan watch anime solely for memestering fuel and our dear virgin basementdweller niwakas can only oblige by sucking up to the Nipponese musturd race and idolizing their favourite lolsorandumb shows for all the wrong reasons.
Just fucking ignore it when you see it happen.
It's not like these autists can be trained to have taste, they are mentally deficient and beyond any help.
What is the appeal of this series?
Nothing happens. It's just a string of one non-sequitur conversation to the next, ending in some contrived and infantile melodrama. Throw in some signature loli crying and you've got a series with zero substance.
Books are fucking terrible
But the show is my favorite anime ever. Atmosphere, dialogue, characters, music and presentation are top notch.
Some people say that Monogatari is for smart people - that's not exactly true. You need to be patient and being smart makes everything more enjoyable.
>>142068070
They do on MAL and reddit.
Is Zaregoto better?
>>142067904
>Throw in some signature "artsy" Shaft shots and you've got a series with zero substance.
>signature "artsy" Shaft shots and you've got a series with zero
>signature "artsy" a series with zero
>signature zero
>re zeroRe:Zero
There you go OP.
>>142068471
/lit/ here. Zaregoto isn't that great either. Yes, I read them in nip. It's a lot of puns and teen angst disguised as maturity.
>>142067904
Kill yourself nigger
Because it's the only harem anime with more depth than cheap softporn
Because there's more into it than edgy one liners and epic battles
Because and generic anime cliches, while present, are explored and have a little bit of depth
>>142068652
Great reply, thanks for posting dumbfuck
>>142068688
Haha you're welcome OP, anytime! : D
>>142068111
>t b h s m h
Worst type of poster on /a/
>>142068655
>Because it's the only harem anime with more depth than cheap softporn
>>142068752
And this webm definitely proves that it doesn't, right?
That's why monogatari is for patient people, because to enjoy it all you need to know the context and watxh everything. Saying that the whole story is bad because of one scene is just fucking dumb.
Fun characters
>>142068816
I won't be this retarded but I honestly think that scenes like toothbrush or playing Twister with Nadeko are justified because they have a bigger purpose than simple fanservice.
>>142068881
>Saying that the whole story is bad because of one scene is just fucking dumb.
>>142068816
who takes the time to do that shit
>>142068967
That scene has a very clear and specific purpose.
>>142068967
Nisemonogatari was supposed to show the relationships between Araragi and his sisters, Nadeko and Shinobu. Yeah, it was full of sexual content, but I'd say that in all of this cheap fanservice there was an interesting story.
>>142069042
>You don't get it! He takes a naked bath with a loli (who's actually hundreds of years old wink wink hehehe) because it's relevant to the plot!
Bake is the only good one in the series, fuck everything else
>>142067904
So is there actually a plot to this anime or is it just weeb porn?
It's waifubait, no one really likes this shit for the sub par art direction, messy shot composition or shitty animation.
>>142069184
bake isn't even that good
tsubasa cat was the only arc I really liked
>>142068980
Niwakas who want to feel smart for watching a cartoon.
So basically most of the anime fandom really.
Those people are incredibly needy when it comes to stroking their self perceived high "intellect". This medium's fanbase is populated with the lowliest of the low regardless of the walk of life they come from. They need to feel like they're outsmarting the rest of the world in something otherwise they'll lose the last little speckle of dignity they have remaining.
I'd say it's the dark souls of anime
It's pretty fucking good, some people like it and some people don't understand its appeal (and there's nothing wrong with that). It attracts hundreds of retards with 2deep4u theories and dumb memes.
The first one is awesome (DaS1)
The second one is shit (DaS2)
And the rest is great, but feels like a rehash and milking the franchise. (BB, DaS33)
monogatari went to shit when it embraced pandering to lolicon
I'm gay and I love it. There has to be something more than fanservice into it
>>142069330
Dark Souls lore is stupidly deep (as in not obvious). The Monogatari series is quite literal with its plot, conversations and lore, there's no room for fan interpretation.
>>142069096
It is actually relevant to the plot. It's the first time to two of them have spoken since Golden Week.
>>142069404
I'm comparing it from the community perspective.
Yeah, it's literal, but it doesn't stop hundreds of retards from crafting dumb theories.
>>142069432
So naturally, the logical step is to bathe with her.
>>142069273
bake is the only one that made sense. nise ,with its pretentious themes, ruined the series for good
>>142067904
2deep4u
>>142069252
The animation in this webm looks okay though.
>>142069495
I mean, it's fanservice too, don't get me wrong, but it is a plot relevant scene.
>>142068816
I thought the whole "Gatari has a deeper meaning" was just a meme, retards actually waste their time going in depth on a anime adapted from a ln.
>>142069528
If you're used to SHAFT animation, then sure.
>>142067904
Some people actually enjoy watching anime, anon.
>>142068816
It's simply compelling cinematography.
It's interesting that a show can invoke speculation like that although it is retardedly far fetched.
I filtered "monogatari" on /a/ just because I love it so much that I don't really want to be aware of all its flaws
Yeah, there's a lot of fanservice but I'm not really a big fan of lolis and my favorite character from the "muh waifus" perspective is Kanbaru, but I didn't really like any of her arcs
The worst arcs are Karen Bee and the one in which Hachikuji disappears. No substance, no interesting characters and a shit ton of dumb fanservice.
Well, my love for this series might be justified by the fact that I rarely watch any anime
>>142069648
What an awful reply. Didn't address a single point in the OP. Equates not liking Monogatari to "hating anime". Off yourself, nerdling.
>>142069739
It did address the OP, the appeal is that fun things are fun.
>>142067904
>substance
This isn't high school, anon. No one cares.
>>142069787
And I say Monogatari isn't fun. Debate me, dweeb.
>>142069834
See >>142069648
Do you also argue that K-On isn't fun because nothing happens?
Maybe anime just isn't for you.
>>142069834
You aren't patient enough anon
And there's nothing wrong with that
To enjoy it you need to see the "bigger image" (and no, I'm not talking about muh depth)
>>142069878
Why are you putting words in my mouth? I like K-On. I don't like Monogatari.
>>142069929
>teehee :p your brain can't COMPREHEND how INTRICATE this series is, and that's ok!! you're a fucking retard and that's ok!!!!
Don't patronize me, dipshit.
Why has nobody explained ITT why it's good? The only explanations I've seen say "It's trash but I like the girls", which I can buy,
>>142069273
Tsubasa cat is the only arc that had any substance.
>>142069933
But most of your arguments in the OP also apply to K-On. Zero substance.
Is your issue seriously just that this is the thing in your life that you haven't enjoyed while other people do and you're confused by that?
>You aren't patient enough anon
>teehee :p your brain can't COMPREHEND how INTRICATE this series is, and that's ok!! you're a fucking retard and that's ok!!!!
I'd call you a fucking retard, but based on that absurd projection just now I'd say that you already think that you are one.
>>142070110
>Is your issue seriously just that this is the thing in your life that you haven't enjoyed while other people do and you're confused by that?
Nope, I just want you to explain why Monogatari is good without resorting to personal attacks or strawman
It's a simple request if the series is good, right?
>>142070192
I'm not even him but...
Is K-on good? Why did you like it?
>>142069184
>not liking twister Nadeko
Fuck off pleb
>>142069999
I haven't said that you idiot. I'm just saying that not everyone wants to watch anime in which 90% of the exposition is buried inbetween pointless dialogue with dumb jokes and references. Don't try to put "wew it's so deep you don't understand it" in my mouth.
I can tell you why it's good. It explores the topic of generic teenager's problems by talking about anime cliches and comparing them to real people. Some people like the presentation and weird character traits. Personally I don't fucking care about the girls, my favorite characters are Nadeko and Kaiki, yet I neither like midschoolers with bangs nor I'm gay.
It feels like a Persona game that actually tries to do something more than social links with its characters.
>>142070192
Why don't you explain why K-On is good? It's a simple request if the series is good, right?
>>142070320
did this happen in nisse? I just dont remember this scene.
Personally I like it because it combines all the things I like (interesting plot, deep character interaction, cute girls, amazing fanservice)
I have only watched one hundred anime but it seems like they can never make a series serious while also making it funny and including good fanservice. It's either one or the other, no in between. However, there are shows that manage to do it right like Haruhi, but that's just my opinion.
>>142069999
>"It's trash but I like the girls"
Well, it's a character focused story and the plot is an instrument to develop them (and most of them are girls, though the males are popular as well).
If such story makes you like and care about the girls then it fulfilled it's purpose and therefore it's not trash.
>>142070410
>Not remembering one of the best scenes with Nadeko
Gosh, seems today /a/ is full of plebs
>>142070426
Who are you answering to?
>interesting plot, deep character interaction, cute girls, amazing fanservice
Bakemono doesn't have any of this?
>Haruhi
>fanservice
>funny
Pick only one.
>I have only watched one hundred anime
Lies. Or maybe you watched shit shows.
>>142069999
What a dumb fag.
He didn't say anything about your intelligence.
For example, I'd rather kill myself with a toothbrush than watch copypasted haruhi episodes again but I don't feel stupid because of it.
Are you really this fucking insecure?
>>142069096
An aesthetic goal is a goal in of itself
>>142067904
>It's another "STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE" thread