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Why didn't the incubators generate energy by throwing magical girls into tentacle pits instead?
Because the entire entropy premise makes zero fucking sense already.
Go read that one stupid Mami doujin again.
>>141845750
theres more than one stupid mami doujin
>>141845801
Pretty much every Mami doujin that isn't [vanilla] or [yuri] is stupid.
>>141845867
why?
>>141845891
Probably because I'm still salty as fuck after that one Cake Mami doujin where the Majou discovered that they could clear their soul gems with fucking baking soda.
>>141845963
what if they coudl clean their soul gems through sex?
>>141846018
As long as it's yuri sex.
Incubators aren't very creative.
>>141845674
Free range magical girls > Magical girls stuffed in tentacle pits
>Sayaka: What is this feeling, so sudden and new?
>Homura: I felt it the moment I laid eyes on you.
>Sayaka: My pulse is rushing…
>Homura: My head is reeling…
>Sayaka: My face is flushing?
>Homura: What is this feeling, fervid as a flame?Does it have a name?
>Sayaka: Yes-Both: Loathing. Unadulterated loathing.
>>141846630
but when the magical girls turn into witches you have to waste energy making another magical girl.
with tentacle pits you just need to keep the magical girls alive.
>>141845674
What is the translation for these images?
>>141845674
Entropy was Urobuchi telling the viewer that magical girl suffering is just something that needs to happen. It's not meant to be thought about that hard.
>>141846751
>Being in the snow with my lover gives me a special feeling.
>>141846786
cute
>>141846755
but entropy is an actual concept IRL
>>141845867
Mami yuri doujins aren't even good. No one's had the balls to have write a story where Mami steals Madoka from Homura.
>>141846875
HomuMami is the way to go anyway. Black and Yellow is a more fun mix than Pink and Yellow.
>>141846865
Does that matter? It's a plot device to show the viewer that the system is there for a reason and it's a pretty damn good reason. It makes Kyubey a necessary evil.
>you-know-who invading the thread in 3, 2, 1...
>>141846920
MamiHomu is my favorite crack ship, but no one ever writes those. Ayane did one, but it was 80% dialogue and a few dozen pages.
>>141846946
yea but there are other ways of generating the energy needed to stop the entropy right
>>141846946
iff you believe a word qb has to say about things
remember that the entropy explanation was the episode right after he claimed he didn't understand the concept of manipulation, then purposely got kyouko killed
>>141847037
They're not evil. They're just not good. They wouldn't have a reason to throw the girls in a tentacle pit because megucas will despair anyways.
>>141847078
He isn't though.
>>141847037
You don't "stop" entropy. You merely need to construct a system that violates the second law of thermodynamics. That system happens to be a pubescent girl who has their soul ripped out and turned into a repository of magic. According to the Incubators, the combination of human individuality and the emotional spectrum of said pubescent girls is the only system that generates an appreciable net energy output.
>>141847121
but despairing for the rest of eternity generates wayyy more energy in the long run
>>141846751
>>141846841
>>>141846786
>>my lover
Close! So close! The pic >>141845674 says "my waifu". This meme has various modifications.
>Things Homura will never ask you
Suicide is a good option right now.
>>141847282
It's not about simply making them despair. It's about the phase change from hope to despair. Once you break them down, they no longer generate energy.
>>141847211
right but the magical girls generate energy when they feel despair, but when they turn into witches you have to create a new magical girl, which means expending more energy.
Keeping the magical girl alive to generate despair for the rest of eternity is a more efficient system.
Also it would be interesting to see how the incubators experimented to end up with the current system.
>>141847431
isnt that because they turn into mindless witches?
http://exhentai.org/g/800512/a66c58f4b8/
Why aren't there more doujins like this
All right, Madoka General, what if only one of the manga series was going to be adapted into an anime.
Which one would you most want to see adapted?I'd want to see Different Story, Homura's Revenge, Oriko Magica, & Homura Tamura to be made into an anime about Homura's travels through different timelines
>>141847583
>>141847611
Despair is not the source of energy. It's the violent transformation from magical girl to witch that generates energy. Keeping them alive is literally just wasting energy.
>>141847926
isnt the emotions that result in the witch transformation what generates energy?
>>141847926
Yes, if you believeKyubey's explanation.
>>141847966
>希望と絶望の相転移
The phase transition from hope to despair
>>141847966
Yes and no.
When magical girls use magic, their soul gems take on curses from the rest of the world because of the distortion their magic causes on the world.
It's the release of the energy of all the built up emotions in their soul gem, both positive and negative, that Kyubey collects.
Inefficient. Why add extra variables when the Magical Girl > Witch Cycle fuels itself?
>>141848094
so you just need to make them swing from hope to despair and then back again to generate infinite energy.
>>141847872
Next season, I want Homura to lead a group of evil magical girls instead of the clara dolls.
>>141847872
The Different Story. Possibly Wraith Arc.
>>141847966
It's not the emotion itself, but rather the change in emotion. It's like a lightning bolt: the girls build up a large "charge" then release it violently, generating energy. However, the process is irreversible, so the Incubators simply seek out another girl to repeat it.
>>141848122
because you have to waste energy creating a new magial girl after they turn into a witch?
>>141848123
That kind of thing doesn't end well for the Kyubey. You don't want a girl who's filled with infinite energy.
>>141848123
It meansI can not watch Madoka threads or post anything any longer!
>>141848188
Sure, but you'll still need a fresh supply with the tentacle plan, too. Here, the witches supply the despair themselves.
>>141848183
instead of the battery generating a large charge, blowing out the battery in the process, the incubators should just siphon off energy over a long period to prevent having to replace the battery.
>>141848193
you would be removing the energy each time though, so the girl doesnt get infinite energy.
>>141848123
Except reversing the process, going from despair to hope, would require more energy than was produced in the first place, completely defeating the purpose.
>>141848183
>possibly Wraith Arc
That shit is still in moon runes. And it's going to end in Homura mind raping everyone anyway.
>>141848240
You obviously don't know what the term 'infinite' means you stupid sack of shit.
When the girl meets the cusp of the infinite energy threshold then she's become way too full of energy for anyone to control.
Just hope you stay on her good side.
>>141848217
It's not as simple as that. If they don't accumulate a large charge, then they're taking in too much energy by merely existing. You don't get the net energy gain this way.
>>141847872
Different Story and Homura's Revenge, since they're the only two spin-off's that are under the Madoka Magica label.
Sayaka and Kyoko vs Homura would pretty awesome animated.
>>141845674
The incubators wouldn't have the means to control them once they became witches. They might destroy the tentacle facility. better to let them wreck their own home world than risk losing control of them
>>141848208
no you won't, because you just mind wipe the magical girls after they reach the despair point, that way they start from the hope point again.
This is assuming of course, that you disable the witch transformation part.
>>141847872
First choice would be Different Story
Second choice would be Homura's Revenge
They're the only manga that wouldn't need new voice actors to come in if they became an anime.
>>141848248
no it wouldn't, because mindwiping the girls is way easier than creating a new magical girl.
>>141846875
Mami works better as the teams bicycle anyway. The doujin where she gets the other girls drunk and they all tag team on her is fap-fucking-tastic.
Why don't Madoka threads disappear from /a/? Are our powers infinite? These threads areHope or Despair?
>>141848547
>disable the witch transformation part
Why would you do that? That just seems inefficient at best.
>>141848594
Because one of the higher ups on /a/ is a Madokafag. They're never leaving this board.
never ever.
>>141846710
But the energy came from the moment they became a witch.
>>141846710
>tentacle pits
Please stop trying to cross Madoka Magica with La Blue Girl.
>>141848590
Mami works best as a mommy.
Please don't sexualize the magical girls. They're only like 15, tops.
>>141848547
>>141848570
Then you don't generate energy at all. The witch transformation is what generates the energy.
>>141848349
how can she reach infinite energy if she never accumulates enough energy to do that
>>141848594
Because we're so desperate to see Homura saved.
>>141848547
Time to leave this thread and fap to some Madoka fanfiction, anon. You're too blinded by your own boner to know what you're talking about.
>>141848914
She's never going to be saved.
>>141849049
I'd argue, but that's an entirely real possibility, which terrifies me.
>>141848199
Seriously if I leave here, nobody will be literally concerned with me.
>>141848635
You and I are Madokafags as well.
>>141848914
>>141849049
Are you two Homuhaters?
>>141849161
>>141849186
new phone who dis
>>141849049
But she did nothing wrong.
>>141848547
Wouldn't it be better to have magical girls who can turn into a witch at will?
>>141849198
Why would I say I want Homura to be saved if I hate her?She's literally my favorite fictional character.
>>141849198
I don't hate Homura. But she seems resigned to her own doom now that Madoka has been captured. It's dem tired eyes she has that she has during the end part of Rebellion.
>>141849291
>two posts with 2 seconds between them
>>141849370
I've seen some weak ass bait before but that is some weak ass bait
1/10, I replied.
>>141849247
Why does GAN's designs look so slutty?
>>141849371
>>141849401
>>141849413
>>141849429
Why do you just love to further damage the fandom? Why do you support low quality content?
>>141849429
because they ARE slutty
>>141849451
>damage the fandom
>fandom
Get out of here, you underage shit. Only retards and tumblrshits use this expression. And there's no "fandom" to be "damaged" when 4chan doesn't care about Madoka.
>>141849516
Anon no
To be honest, as anti-crack shipper, I was more offended by the egregious misunderstandings of thermodynamics in this thread than a handful of HomuMami posts.
>>141849569
You're not "anti-crack" since you refuse to let this thread die.
>>141849705
See the above.
>>141849924
>>141845674
Is there any lewd images of this exact occurence?
goofy doing the madoka theme, you didn't even know you needed this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OicAo_QLY_o
>>141851363
sounds like someone has already become a witch.
>>141845674
OP sure is a great sign to get your hopes up for some quality discussion.
Definitely not floods of crack content derailing thread, oh wait.
I want to stick my dick in crazy.
>>141845750
That part made perfect sense.
The universe is probably going to die due to heat death. Meaning that all particles are at their lowest energy states (e.g. no planets or suns anymore), assuming that all particles don't just decay into nothingness.
Magical girls for some unknown reason, generate more energy than that was put into them. Thus, farming girls for energy is a net-positive in terms of energy transactions. If the Incubators decided to use humans as a permanent energy source they could have prevented the heat death of the universe in whatever how many years from now.
But the Incubators supposedly had a finite quota so they were only thinking about their short-term gains (short term being several thousand years I imagine). The heat death argument *IS* valid and does make sense, but that was clearly them just bs'ing Madoka instead of actually believing in saving the universe.
>>141846710
>but when the magical girls turn into witches you have to waste energy making another magical girl.
So? What matters if that you get more energy out of the whole deal per girl. You want a sustainable resource, not a one-time burst.
>>141851774
wat
>>141851938
k
>>141845750
>Because the entire entropy premise makes zero fucking sense already.
Pretty much this.
>>141849283
Sorry.
>>>141848914
>be desperate to ≒ be eager to
I knew the usage for the first time. Also I never ever wanna be"hopeless"about my English skills.
>>141849327
>tumblr
>>141849705
I recognized you as a offender. What is it that you dislike so much? But it is no use reporting me, because Mods ignore your wrong reports.
>>141851641Where?
>>141852240
*an
>>141852401
Homura looks like she's suffering for some reason.
>>141852431
>>141852452
She ate too much and don't wanna get fat! However, Madoka....
>>141852510
*doesn't
>>141845674
Somewhere, this is a doujin.
>>141851717
The point at which the universe would collapse from heat death is so many billions of years in the future that the earth would not even exists due to our sun going out by then. The Kyuubi is just a fucking asshole using humans to farm energy so Homura fucking his shit up was great catharsis.
>>141846671
Why is there no MadoMagi musical yet?
Madoka: "Homura-chan~"
>>141846875
Because even my suspension of disbelief doesn't go quite far enough to assume Homura doesn't find out and empty a Browning M2 into Mami's wonderful oversized funbags.
Madoka: "I caught you!"
>>141852579
fire fox
Madoka: (I wanna lick her cheek clean!)
>>141848024
I don't agree with the little Satan teddybear but I do believe him. It sounds totally reasonable for a self-interested and quite literally emotionless species to behave this way in an effort to save the universe in which they live.
>>141852740
https://desustorage.org/a/thread/141420463/#141440819
If the universe has finite resources about intelligent life, the annihilation of human beings dose not bring them a profit in order to get a temporary large energy in exchange for continuous trade. Therefore, there's a possibility he has another purpose. For example, he might want to ruin the Earth, because magical girls aredangerous characters. Anyway, the works are open-ended. Urobuchi isa shit.
>>141852923
What are they going to do on the bed?
You realize the reason /a/ never has Madoka threads of any substance is because you tripfags destroyed them.
>>141848714
>implying mother/daughter incest roleplay isn't kinda hot
Although for cute value I can totally imagine an AU where Mami is alive and actually does behave as a mother for Kyoko and maybe Homura, whose parents don't seem to exist.
>>141852947
Magical things.
>>141852947
Because I wanna go to bed.
>>141851641
Because crazy- especially yandere crazy- is hot. Yuno Gasai, Homura here, they're attractive because they're insane, overprotective and would do almost anything for the one they love. Devotion gives us boners because we're used to being left by women.
>>141852849
I thought always responding is what makes it obvious who he is?
that's nice
>>141853110
You nailed it.
What did she mean by this?
>>141853383
But she's not real and never will.
>>141853383
So beautiful, /a/
>>141853443
FANTASY IS WONDERFUL.
>>141853537
Then you're just lying to yourself
>>141848768
so find a way to siphon off the despair to generate energy instead of turning them into a witch
>>141846225
Subtle
>>141853443
Neither is the prospect of love for me anyway.
>>141853875
I can still love you, anon
>>141853915
You are not a girl.
If you're into imagedumping that much then I need more subtle or powerlevel hiding wallpapers for my phone.
>>141853620
No one actually believes this. You idiot.
Notice how you are the only one who is responding? Take a Fucking hint dumbass.
I'd like to think that if Yuma and Sayaka both contracted on the same timeline that they would fight over Kyoko.
>>141855218
Bump
>>141854677
What the fuck dude!
Would Madoka let someone lick her ass if was guaranteed to save them?
>>141855218
Most of the other anons that were posting probably went to bed or church.
Back to being on-topic, it's weird that there haven't been any tie-ins to the Suzune Magica or Tart Magica in any of the video games yet.
At least Madoka Online tried to acknowledge Kazumi and Oriko.
>>141855490
Don't reply to that shit. Just report and ignore.
dumbass
>>141855627Had to, nsfw.
>>141855577
There's really not enough crossover fanart.
>>141856003
She's so pure and soft.
>>141847872
Different Story would be great, but truth be told, it's not really the same. I love it as a story, with being able to see all these cross-over relationships that they didn't really have time for at first. But I'm not sure that was ever the point of PMMM, which felt more like it was about pushing to unravel what you expected from it by repeatedly setting up moments that "should've" gone a particular way (and would've, in typical a mahou shoujo) but doesn't. But even that kind of swerving has become more and more normal, really.
Obviously the whole world is it's own setting now, with all sorts of official work that doesn't hold to that same theme, but maybe that's why I'm just not as excited about their extended universe.
>>141856003
Sleep snug meduka.
>>141847872
Oriko and The different story.
>>141856134
I'll agree that a huge part of what makes the anime great is how it plays with and unravels audience expectation.
And that the expanded universe manga don't really do that as well.
>>141847872
Either TDS, Oriko or Homura Tamura.
>>141856746
I haven't read all the companion works, but I liked TDS for its own story and the little callbacks it did to the original series. Even its conclusion is done (intentionally, I'm sure) in parallel with the main story and I found Madoka's involvement touching in almost exactly the same way as I felt originally.
But I do think that what made the original series so good was one gutpunch after another, not because they were shocking abd edgy but because they really laid bare how you had been counting on very particular things to happen, even if you weren't an avid fan of mahou shoujo before. Being confronted by that is probably something that not everyone wants to admit (maybe they think it makes them look stupid or something) so I think it's easy to dismiss it as edgelord material. And sure, they won in the end, but I don't think anyone was expecting a meta-origin story out of it, and it left this great wink-and-nod about there being only a tiny number of girls who actually know what they're truly fighting for. They're just different, which is maybe why I was happy to let it go at just the original series, because I thought it accomplished what it set out to do.
>>141856134
>>141857249
I agree with you that TDS was very good and that helped fill gaps in relationships
>>141856746
One thing I noticed is the only enemy viable in the spin-off are other magical girls as witches are mindless and Kyubey and Wraith really only intervenes in special cases. But even so it has restrictions on the type of script that can be written, for example, the antagonist may not have long-term plans, as magical girl is not exactly a good life expectancy.
What opinion you that?
>>141846671
Loathe and Love are just two sides of the same coin.
>>141858253
Yes,yes, fight, fight!
>>141858290
Dafuq?
>>141852568
What if it's only so far in the future because Kyubey was prolonging it, hmm?
>>141858961
Weak female character.
>>141853391
She wanted to make out with Homura.
>>141852510
She isn't going to get the ass Madoka likes if she doesn't eat more.
>>141859173
Who doesnt?
All of a sudden the air feels so much...
... cleaner.
>>141851764
Magical girls in tentacle pits would be a sustainable resource because you wouldnt have to keep replacing them.
>>141852240
I forgive you because you offer cute MadoHomus.
>>141852510
Why is she crying? Is she doing karaoke of "Connect" and being reminded of everything she went through?
>>141853614
You could use the same argument about any energy source, except replace "turn into witch" with "burn out." It doesn't work that way.
>>141856134
>>141856746
>>141857249
The reason why a lot of things are left unexplored in the mainline PMMM series is because it would mess up the presentation of the central plot. The manga (particularly TDS and WA) may not have this same impression, especially because they both feature foregone conclusions, but I like them because they fill in the gaps.
>>141860101
Tiredness and thirst can kill
>>141860111
>Why is she crying?
Because Homu is a cry baby when Madoka is around. Or not around for that matter.
>>141860111
Think of it like a battery.
If you charge the battery with too much energy, it blows up. Just like a magical girl turning into a witch.
So you get the battery to discharge energy over a period of time instead of exploding.
>>141860434
The problem is charging the battery takes in more energy than the battery puts out when holding a charge.
>>141860156
im sure a race as advanced as QB can hook them up to life support
>>141860494
we dont really know that.
>>141862285
Keeping a human alive requires an immense amount of energy. If a magical girl lives for a long duration, she will keep on taking in energy to survive, reducing the return on energy, until you get negative values.
>>141862761
You know, this is why the "battery" thing in The Matrix never made any sense to me.
>>141862761
not really, their souls are in the soul gem remember?
>>141862761
I was under the impression that the average magical girl lasted a few weeks, with veterans like Mami and Kyouko being outliers and people like Homu and Celopatra being on the extreme end of the spectrum.
>>141863263
They still consume all the resources a normal human does.
>>141852551
It's the best pairing so of course
>>141863475
it makes it easier to keep them alive. remember, you dont need to keep them at maximum health.
I am curious.
Are megucas immune to every disease and poison like witchers?
>>141864189
No, but they could just heal off the damage inflicted on their body.
>>141864035
You're still around and evading your ban I see.
>>141864899
So we're going on 4 years now of you throwing an autist fit and evading your bans because you feel threatened somehow by other girls being paired together despite there being no canon pairing.
>>141865182
We all already know who you are, do you honestly expect anyone to believe you're someone else crack-kun?
>>141863966
Nah, it's garbage when you depict it as a romantic relationship.
>>141864697
You're still around baiting.
For the uniformed, if they somehow exist
http://desustorage.org/a/search/text/crack-kun/
>>141865533
uninformed* too
>>141865182
>posting screenshots of some retarded mod who was fired long ago
Why did it take me so so long to realize that "ACK" is an acronym for "anti crack-kun"?
>>141865533
I am sure everyone knows, besides he is shitposting in a Symphogear thread.
>>141865628
It's ok, Sayaka wasn't exactly the smartest of the magicas too
>>141865533
>>141865613
Nobody cares, this isn't relevant to discussing Madoka.
You're just as bad and no better if you want to derail the thread with off-topic meta, crack spammer.
>>141865652
Because you happen to be shitposting there.
>>141865652
Didn't realize we had one up guess I'll go collect some yuri.
>>141865652
Oh, are the Symphogear threads just as tainted?
>>141865925
The thread was fine for a dozen of hours and then he showed up and is shitposting.
>>141866186
Fucking kill yourself.
Can anyone give me some good vanilla or yuri doujin's with Mami?
I need them for....reasons
>>141866763
But her figure is good enough that you don't really need doujins
>>141866763
http://exhentai.org/g/812038/4f737dccc5/
>>141866794
I-I need crack anon....I need more....I need her in my life
>>141867007
She's not real mang
>>141852568
For all we know, in QBs society that's an incredibly shortsighted perspective.
delet madok
>>141867689
delet this
>>141867079
>>141867174
http://exhentai.org/g/854418/02cb6d8142/
Here, I'm sure this is more to your liking and "respects" the characters much more
>>141866965
great taste anon, I wasn't aware it got translated due to an ever increasing backlog
>>141868456
http://exhentai.org/g/651536/03f3c35554/
There's a couple futa MamiKyou too
>>141868595
Thanks, going to bring MamiKyou to the top of my priority list and check them all out.
>>141866965
>>141868595
Thanks for the links.
>>141869089
http://exhentai.org/g/368116/61aeb177d6/
Here's another doujin that totally respect the character of Mami, shit man is like I'm watching the serie
Hey, I just got here. Thanks to the anons above for posting those links. Those were great.
I came with the fury of a thousand buffalo.
>>141869745
I just got here to, I love mamikyo and anyone who is against it is a drippy douchenozzel.
IT's absolutely unthinkable that Mami would invite Kyoko over for cake then softly carass her thigh. She wouldn't do that, she only has eyes for Nagisa. Even if she were to slowly walk her fingers up Kyoko's legs, it would only be because Kyoko spilled some crumbs there or something. It absolutely wouldn't be an excuse to get her hand closer to Kyoko's ladies parts where she could easily undo her zipper and pull her pants down. Even if she were to end up in such a situation she absultly would not ever even consider the possibility of stripping Kyoko's panties off as well and inserting not one or two but THREE fingers into the redhead's trembling slit.
Mami is a respect senpai and would never be disloyal to Nagisa or take advantage of her kouhai like it. I'm telling you, it's just unrealistic to think that something like that would ever happen!
I just got here btw. My trip proves that I'm a new person.
Love how her familiars represent the two closest to her heart
Fuck off and stop bumping this shit No one else wants to see this autism. Take it to tumblr or reddit where people care
>>141870809
Candeloro a cute A CUTE
>>141870809
I'm pretty sure Mami would never ask Kyoko and Madoka to make out with eachother while she sips tea and watches. That would never happen.
She wouldn't start masturbating to the sight of her two kouhai making sweet love to eachother. Mami is a good girl and has no tolerance for lewd things like that.
>>141870809
>>141871010
>we will never see Rosso phantasma animated
>>141871254
>>141871298
Says the obviously upset 'anon'.
>>141871347
Fucking disgusting
>>141870976
indeed
Could've swarn her familiars represented Kyouko and Sayaka.
Where does Madoka come from?
>>141871601
>Oh look, you started posting canon pairs
glad we're in agreement, MamiKyou is best
>>141847872
Oriko or Kazumi.
>>141845801
>>141848590
S-Source?
>>141871696
Never in your life would that be canon.
Why exactly do people ship kyoumami when kyousaya is so much better?
>>141871601
How is Candeloro and her dolls canon but MamiKyou is not? Both are based on something other than the original series (game and manga) and according to your everything that doesn't appear in the original series is not canon, you're so full of bullshit that you aren't capable of keep track of your own shit.
>>141871965
You can think what you want, I'm genuinely curious
>>141871917
No one here really does, it's only a minority commonly found on tumblr.
It's spammed here constantly 'cause of your baiting.
Needy senpai/loving kouhai pair is just too delicious.
>>141872043
Says the minority.
>>141872013
Candeloro isn't canon.
>>141872083
What minority? Elaborate.
