Why is incest considered to be so bad?
Because it might make retard babies.
Which is bad.
I have no fucking idea OP if only somebody knew.
>>141606311
Ask the Hapsburg
Perfectly fine between consenting adults. This thread is gonna be another 300 shit posts about genetics and morals, isn't it?
>>141606592
>>141606941
Absolutely.
>>141606535
>>141606592
> What are condoms
Retards
>>141607214
> What are condoms
Something your worthless fuckup of a father couldn't afford.
My sister and I had sex once when we were younger... I don't regret it and will never understand why society thinks it's a big deal. It brought us closer together, and that's always a good thing with those important to you.
>>141607282
>>141607282
/a/ is a board of love and friendship
>>141607387
>things that never happened
>>141607432
But lovers and friends hold hands.
>>141607387
Get out baconfag
>>141606311
Mutant babies
>>141607387
Good story, not suitable for /a/. Newfags should lurk moar
>>141606311
Bible says don't do it (Other religious books might as well, I'm not so familiar), and whether people want to admit it or not, most of our baseline morals stem from religion.
Which of course means if you're not religious and you don't intend to breed, there's no problem.
>>141607455
It did, anon... I was 13 and she was 15... it makes a lot more sense than people might think. When you're really small, you tend to feel attracted to your older siblings. Those feelings are repressed as you get older and are made to feel they're inappropriate, but they'll always be a part of you deep down. Sex seems fairly natural since it's a merging of the souls, and your soul is already intertwined with your siblings. Sex for us was just an extension of what was already there.
>>141606535
Sibling sex is no more likely to introduce genetic deformations than conceiving at age 40. Problems only really start popping up if you do it generation after generation.
>>141606311
Because we used to not know how genetics worked, just that people who kept fucking their relatives eventually turned out weird. Now we are just idiots holding old prejudices.
>>141607387
>once
If it was so good for your relationship, why did you stop?
>>141607732
Fuck off blogfag.
Makes fucked up looking kids. There you have it.
>>141607732
While I didn't feel like this, it seems like a rather logical way of putting it.
But the "repressed feelings" part bugs me, isn't that a bit more genetic? or if it is psychological, something that wakes up on its own?
>if genetics were out of the question
what would be stopping you?
>>141606311
keep it in the family BS only leads to weak people. Just look at Pugs. there all sorts of fucked up.
>>141607894
thanks Alan Watts
OP here.
I mean fuck, genetics is the obvious problem, I wasn't asking that. If you want babies, adapt them. If you want to fuck wear protection.
I'm asking, what would be stopping you from loving your sister other than fucked up babies?
I would argue that the main grip against incest is the potential for genetic deformities if the couple decides to have children. With that being related to the innate urge that lies in all human beings to advance the species forward through genetic diversity and evolution.
We understand at a base level that having a child with someone related to you results in a weak child, therefore undesirable. And it's assumed that two people in a relationship will have a child with each other so aside from being taught to you from birth it also disgusts you on a primal level.
>>141607973
fat ugly sister
>>141607894
That I don't want to fuck my sisters, and the idea is gross.
Are you people really so mentally inadequate that you cannot realize the genetics issue isn't black and white?
Take the example of that blonde GoT family. You think they are genetically more likely to produce proficient offspring with slaves and mudloods or with their siblings?
>>141607773
She found a boyfriend shortly after. We discussed whether it was okay to have sex again after that since neither of us really considered it cheating (to us it wasn't about romantic love or even lust, just being intimate with someone you care about), but we decided not to since the boyfriend would have considered it to be non-monogamous and we respected that.
Why is homosexuality accepted whereas brother/sister incest isn't?
>>141607973
Christianism.
>>141608208
Same reason why being a peedough isn't.
>>141606311
Same reason 2D is considered bad.
Regular women are afraid
>>141606311
I don't consider it bad. But I don't have any siblings or cousins to relate.
>>141606311
because
>Muh Bible
>Muh Morals
>Muh Tards
>>141607732
I know for a fact that you don't have actual siblings.
>>141608193
Again, wrong place. Please do not purify our waters.
This show is a masterpiece. Best unintended comedy ever. The music is also masterful. 10/10 would recommend.
I wish I had a brother to have sex with
>>141607732
>merging of souls
You had me untill there
>>141608357
There's only one funny part in the entire show and it's towards the ass end of the series.
>>141606311
Because my Onee-San isn't cute
>>141606311
Because it denies us the chance to rail your sister.
>>141607732
>merging of the souls
>>141606311
Fuck if I know, ask my sister, she's the one that doesn't want it.
>>141608208
Because incest is cheating. You don't need a good car or good job to fuck your imouto. Women don't like that kind of things.
>>141608193
And she's had that one boyfriend ever since? And how do you know the bf would have been unchill with it- did anyone ask him?
>>141608497
It's the opposite though, going for the sister is the hardest route.
>>141608497
THAT
>>141607733
> Problems only really start popping up if you do it generation after generation.
That's usually the scenario that people are talking about when they make this point though. You don't think it'd become commonplace for families to start marrying that closely within the family instead of bothering to find someone outside the family if they had the option to?
No shit there'd be almost no problem with it if it only happened amongst a small handful of people.
>>141606311
Mostly because can't have children biologically, you know DNA and genes don't work that well in incest, tend to get fucked up.
I guess morals too.
But mostly just the no babies.
>>141606311
>fucking your sibling is good
I don't know if you're retarded or retarded, OP
>>141608516
>did anyone ask him?
>hey dude whatsup so listen I know you're with my sister and all but we like to fuck each other like animals occasionally. She takes my dick like a champ. I'm er brother by the way. And I fuck her 'till she screams. You alright with that?
I'm sure that would go well.
>>141607674
Don't talk if you haven't read the bibble. Incest happened in the bibble. Siblings could get married in the past, problem is that richfags got richer.
>>141608396
>>141608481
I guess my INFJ is showing...
>>141608516
She dated him for three years, then married him. We never asked him because she was scared he might consider the very idea unfaithful and break up with her. It's okay. We had our one time and that's all I need.
Complex organisms need variety in their gene pool. That's why we have sexual reproduction, we're too complex just to split like bacteria (and even bacteria have a means of swapping DNA just for more genetic variety). So even if we don't necessarily understand why, humans are naturally repulsed by incest. It's natural selection at work, somewhere along the line humans picked up an aversion to incest and that's helped the species continue.
>>141607859
>But the "repressed feelings" part bugs me, isn't that a bit more genetic? or if it is psychological, something that wakes up on its own?
I think it's mostly psychological, but it does not depend only on society, biology most likely plays a role too.
Just look at the most common non-abusive incestuos relationships: in most cases they happen between relatives who had grown up apart. If the repulsive feelings only came from the notion that incest is bad, incestuous relationship would be as likely to happen between long lost relatives as it is in those who grew up together.
>>141608717
Sex =/= reproduction
>>141608717
>So even if we don't necessarily understand why, humans are naturally repulsed by incest
Except for the thousands of years where we weren't?
>>141608239
>>141608310
Please, lurk more.
>>141607387
>It brought us closer together
Literally
I find incest arousing BECAUSE its taboo. Streisand effect, maybe?
![Paprika_(2006)_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_00.26.19_[2016.04.22_19.17.12].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BaZ53pE.jpg "Paprika_(2006)_[720p,BluRay,x264]_-_THORA.mkv_snapshot_00.26.19_[2016.04.22_19.17.12].jpg")
>>141607282
>>141608735
And contraception is a thing too so you can have all the sex you want without reproduction! But that doesn't invalidate what I said: OP asked question, and I explained why it's only natural to be repulsed by incest. I'm not arguing that you shouldn't do it.
>>141608602
That's not exactly true. Sure it increases the chances of congenital diseases, but it's not 100% certain. Hell sometimes you can even have a baby healthier than yourself if you fuck your sister.
>>141608694
You're cute, anon~
>>141608771
>Streisand effect, maybe?
>>141608812
>ad hocum: the post
In any case, we already know that aversion to incest is probably a natural artifact of growing up around siblings. It isn't necessarily deeply ingrained in our DNA, however, as it can clearly be overwritten in the cases of actual sibling incest.
Two words.
Birth. Defects.
>>141608835
Th-thank you! You're cute too.
>>141608744
There has never been a cultural in human history without an incest taboo. How far it goes varies from culture to culture, but there is ALWAYS a line you're not supposed to cross. There are ancient cultures where fucking your cousin is okay, in some your inlaws are good to go, in some tribal cultures half-sisters are fine, but there is ALWAYS some definitive don'ts. Namely, it has never been okay to fuck your direct parents in any culture ever, and rarely your direct same-parents sibling.
>>141608872
Tee Bee Ach if people should not be allowed to reproduce with one another just because of the risks of birth defects, roughly half the population would be out of the gene pool by now.
>>141608835
>>141608878
These threads are already cancerous enough, fuck off retards.
How acceptable is it in your country to fuck your cousin?
Yeah I know cousins are vanilla tier here, but I'm curious, and it's not like we haven't had this thread hundreds of times already
>>141608694
Besides, there's always your niece! Be the cool uncle, anon!
But seriously, congrats on staying on good terms with her.
>>141608922
I have the cutest cousin, but we aren't that close - so even if I wanted to do something, I couldn't.
>>141608922
Very, if absolutely no one knows that you're cousins.
I said it before and I'll say it again
Criminalizing incest helps preventing domestic abuse
Do not forget that anon who dicked a 13 yo after gaining her trust and telling her sex isn't a big deal
>>141608878
Give me the chocolate Hisao!
>>141608914
>fuck off retards.
>>141609009
Criminalizing sex would also do that, sorta.
>>141609009
I said it before and I'll say it again.
Criminalizing something that isn't wrong encourages people to do things that ARE wrong to hide it.
>>141609009
>>141609064
What's important in law is always the balance. On the topic of incest, I believe laws on rape are enough to cover that issue. Moral issues on incest that is mutually agreed upon, is being dealt with here.
>>141609009
Dicking a 13 yo =/= dicking an adult
>>141609009
>Criminalizing incest helps preventing domestic abuse
Underage sex would still be illegal idiot.
Incest is a huge problem and sexy sisters should be held responsible
>>141608866
What is ad hocum? Google doesn't know what it is either. Did you mean another latin-named fallacy?
In any case, the natural aversion to incest isn't fully understood and some acedemics insist it's psychological, I get that. But I still think "it's evolution" checks out, nature consistently punishes incest just often enough for it be an evolved trait.
Also, any psychological aversions to incest would be coincidentally beneficial (incest is not naturally selected for no matter how you slice it) enough that genetic predisposition for them would be naturally selected for.
Evolution. Animals that didn't feel an inherent disgust of sex with siblings tended to end up in the evolutive gutter rather quickly.
This fucking thread again. And again the same shitty posts
>me wanting to fuck my sister once wouldn't have any effect. It's only one generation. There's no way our children and grandchildren would follow our example!
>so what? As long as you're not reproducing it's fine! I mean it's not like making a certain thing less taboo would make people push the boundaries further, right?
You fuckwits have the foresight of a goddamn blind vegetable. It's like half of you are genuinely detached enough from reality to believe morals are absolutely useless and serve absolutely no purpose towards societal stability.
>>141609225
Please don't bring Oreimo into this shit thread.
>>141606311
It's not. It's considered to be fantastic.
>>141609255
morels are useless because they're only used to control people.
anal was conceived for this
>tfw incest doujins get me off more than anything else
>Have absolutely no sexual thoughts about any of my family
It's a tricky one
>>141609311
People need to be controled because they're too fucking stupid to know what's good for them. That's why we have so many subconscious functions that makes us do things without us even understanding them properly. The aversion to incest being one of them.
>>141609255
>societal stability
Yeah, because if we decriminalized incest everyone would start fucking their sister, right?
Fuck off retard
>>141609126
Regular people would just give up, people fucked up enough to hide it would do it either way
>>141609193
13 yo grow up, and heavily influenced by whatever happens during the delicate maturing process
>>141609311
This is a 14 year old's undercooked understanding of sociology and society, and you completely missed the point of his post.
>>141609355
Same for me, and I even have a qt imouto
>>141609255
morality is a spook
>>141609318
That is indeed a very tragic incident, but the crime is not related with incest.
The man's lack of carefulness and the fucking guy is the problem, not the man having relations with his sister.
>>141609355
2D > 3D, what else is new anon?The blogging in these threads disgusts me, I just want cute 2D imoutos.
>>141606311
In all seriousness, it's because 3D incest is very often a level of molestation. That is, one sibling is likely taking advantage of the other, whether it be in the form of creating dependency or outright grooming them in a predatory manner towards rape. Of course this is even more obvious if there's a large age gap, or if the incest involves an older non-sibling relative, which incest usually is.
Also I can't speak for myself, but I think most people are just normally turned off by the idea of incest, even while they're very young. I remember a friend of mine saying that when her brother asked her to marry when they grew up, she already felt uncomfortable, despite being only 5 or 6 at the time.
Of course that's just one example.
>>141609242
You're misunderstanding the nature of my complaint with your post.
First, an ad hoc is a bullshit story that seems to fit constructed after the fact; very common in 'evolutionary' explanations of things. I added um because it's latin and did so tongue-in-cheek.
Second, my complaint is that you're misunderstanding evolution. It doesn't necessarily build the buildings in all cases, it may just pave the way. For example, if you were to discuss sexual dynamics, part of that power balance is inherent to the reality of penis vs. womb. There aren't necessarily an explicit set of instructions encoded in the human brain that make the sexes behave a certain way - such that the female tends to hold the power in a sexual exchange (I'm not saying there aren't ANY instructions like this, just that in this case, what I'm referring to isn't caused by any such thing).
Basically, evolution could have simply created a patchwork, emergent property of aversion to incest (such that our aversion isn't to incest per se, just to people we've grown up in proximity with), that only provides a little bit of resistance so as to nudge our behavior rather than shape it. As I've said, this aversion seems to frequently fall apart with little provocation, so whatever it is, it isn't very significant.
>>141609225
What about stepsisters?
>>141609410
>>141609217
No one bats an eye if a 14 yo and a 16 yo fuck
And no one cal tell since when they're doing it
>>141609426
>imoutos
Nee-sans are the patricians choice
>>141609242
>>141609436
You're both saying the same fucking thing and are too stupid to realize you agree.
>>141609441
Not incest and irrelevant to the thread.
>>141609378
>13 yo grow up, and heavily influenced by whatever happens during the delicate maturing process
Unless you literally segregate her from society there's no way she won't know what's going on by the time she's 18.
And by the way, this only applies to parents or other parental figures, there's no way siblings can brainwash each other like that.
>>141609441
Step sisters are not really sisters. They're just steps.
>>141609426
I want cute stories of family sex. There's a reason I go for manga, not stills from CGs or something.
>>141609482
All of them are best.
>>141609447
I can't stop watching this gif, it's too cute~
>>141609370
Great, so if decriminalising and normalising incest wouldn't cause people to go out and fuck their siblings, why even decriminalise it then?
There's nothing wrong with incest, morality is a slave's chain.
You're supposed to protect your little sister, not fuck her.
That's defeating the whole point.
It's especially complicated if you've lost a father, and faternal instincts come into play.
>>141609628
stop that
>>141609691
I'm not sure faternal is a word, but okay.
>>141609691
>the way I perceive and do things has to be the way everybody else lives their lives
>>141609704
i think he meant fraternal, which means brotherly
>>141609796
pretty sure he meant patriarchal
>>141609814
This edit always makes me laugh.
>>141609826
probably that, i didn't bother to read his whole statement, just thought he made a typo
>>141609588
So that the few people who want to do it won't be prevented from doing it
Most of the time incest happens only between people who did not grow up together and meet each other after years.
If we change the laws, the outstanding majority of people won't even be affected.
>>141609508
What makes you think there are only extreme cases? As if you need to go as far as brainwash. All it takes is to gaining the trust of a bullied little girl because you're thinking with your dick. The anon I mentioned didn't think it would go anywhere
>>141609691
>>141609704
>>141609796
paternal (instinct) is what I'm guessing he was trying to say, regarding the context and the picture.
I'd like a better understanding of how a (younger) sister views incest.
>>141609381
That was the point of the post, and seeing morals as always being useful is a 14 year olds undercooked understanding. If there were only 5 closely related people left in a country after everybody else died than morals would have no use.
>>141609900
I remember that anon, but he did it with a 13 year old.
Try again with a 18 year old and see how far you can go (unless she's into it too)
>>141608677
Where did I say there's no incest in the bible? All I said was it says not to do it. Whether or not people listened to that rule is a different subject.
>>141609896
That's if you're assuming social conditioning has absolutely no influence on people's disposition towards incest, which would be flat out wrong and retarded.
Purge this shit already mods.
>>141609441
Not even Incest.
>>141609826
>>141609874
It's paternal, anons
>>141610027
why would they purge this thread
incest is one of the cornerstones of anime
>>141610004
That's if you're assuming kids will be taught to fuck their sibling, which would be flat out wrong and retarded.
>>141610082
There haven't been 5 posts about actual anime or manga, it's all genetics, morals and society bullshit. Incest generals have been incredibly cancerous these last few months.
This is a very happy mother.
>>141610096
Oh yeah because someone NEEDS to be taught to want to fuck another human being, yeah man totally!
You're a fucking retard. I'm surprised you haven't died in a spoon accident. Though I'm not surprised you're so in favour of decriminalising incest. Your entire family tree must be just one snake eating its own asshole considering the freak of nature it managed to produce.
>>141610183
someone needs to post that incest webm from grisaia to get things going then
>>141610211
Are you implying societal pressure is the only thing preventing people from banging their relatives? You're fucking retarded if you think that
>ad hominem
Try again
>>141610292
No, but it is a contributing factor. Why the hell do you think
>>141608906
was the case?
It's almost like nature and nurture work in tandem and adapt to living conditions rather than being mutally exclusive, you goddamn mouthbreather.
>>141609946
>try it with an already mature person, see what happens
Come on anon
It's just religious stupidity combined with ancient superstition (which, granted, does have an actual basis in fact, since generational incest leads to genetic problems and thus weaker bloodlines). There's no reason that incest should be frowned upon by modern society, now that we know the truth behind it. Consenting adults should be able to fuck whoever they want, whether it be people of the same sex, robots, siblings, whatever.
I have 2 sisters, and if they'd approached me when we were younger, I'd probably have accepted. If one of my friends came out and said he was fucking his sister, I doubt I'd look at him any differently.
>>141610198
>>141606592
>literally dozens of generations of inbreeding produced this
>thinks a normal brother and sister with no family history of incest will produce such a genetic fuck up in a single generation
Literally you are retarded
>>141610370
Social rules did not come out of nowhere, they obviously came out of primal instincts that tell us not to fuck our siblings. Decriminalizing incest wouldn't change that, do you even know having sex with siblings is not even illegal everywhere, including Japan? Yet you don't see Japanese fucking their families with no restraint.
If society was such an important factor then why are siblings who grew up apart more likely to have a relationship than those who were raised together? And both of them were taught that incest is wrong
>>141610581
It's not even a primal instinct. In ancient times, it was incredibly common to marry siblings, even more so for cousins. If that was really a primal instinct, then we'd have seen far fewer occurrences during the olden days.
>>141610451
Then I don't see your point, the only way it could happen is if the brother tried to influence her sister for literally years, until she's 18, but that is brainwashing, and honestly I don't even think it would work, unless he's the only paternal figure she has
>>141610489
It's great to see a mother enjoying some family bonding.
>>141606311
only people who don't have sisters like incest.
t. onii-chan
Does it count as incest if it's with 2 males?
>>141610743
more like onii-chan in denial
>>141610198
>>141610716
I'm gonna need a sauce here
>>141610769
Probably, but it's more outrageous and thus fun to make inbred babies.
>>141610769
Yeah, and in that case there is literally nothing wrong with it.
Same for two girls
>>141610783
Strip Battle Days 2
http://webmshare.com/play/WNZaDHe impregnates his mom.
>>141610783
>>141610581
I'm done
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/incest.aspx
>>141610673
Human society doesn't linearly get more primal as you go further back.
>>141610691
Why would he wait for her to be 18? I'm talking about a scenario where the guy have already gained her trust and is 15/16. No one cares if a 14 and a 16 yo fuck, but I'm arguing that should not be ok if they were raised together. Incest is not even the issue here
>>141606311
because it births retards like you OP
>>141609900
>>141609946
What anon are you guys talking about?
Why are these threads always mainly filled with imoutofags?
Because although the chance of producing retarded babies is barely higher than usual, it is relevant enough at the scale of a civilization to keep forbidding it. Also, Westermarck effect.
I think the taboo must have multiple origins, it isn't just a social taboo for sure. I don't think it's something bad per se but saying that it is normal seems retarded.
That said, I remember doing two or three dreams about my imouto when I was younger only to be disgusted about them just after I woke up. I wasn't even educated on sex so no inhibitions. Now I may be less sexually unhinibited (I don't think so) but I never think of her sexually unless I'm reading some incest doujinshi or whatever, still I get pretty aroused with incest stories.
>>141611777
>Westermarck effect.
There is no proof that this is real.
>>141611777
Yet things with equal or higher chance of producing retarded babies are entirely legal and if you tried to prevent them you'd be compared to Hitler.
>>141606311
It was because of the common people's angsty dissatisfaction with the royal caste that ruled them.
>>141611570
What would you prefer they be filled with?
>>141611777
Age has a much greater impact on the genetic error rate than incest
>>141612073
Neesans
>>141608771
It's the Munroe Doctrine, you tard?
>>141606311
Because if it wasn't considered bad, it wouldn't be so hot.
>>141612175
Are most incestfags single children because as someone with sisters I'd rather eat a brick.
>>141611839
So then why do most people not want to fuck their siblings? Or the rest of their family for that matter?
>>141612378
Not everyone has siblings that are trash, anon.
>>141612378
They'll obviously argue that you are stopped by social conventions or something like that.
But be honest, doesn't incest arouse you (even if you are disgusted)?
>>141612378
No, and there have been countless people before you who have reached the same wrong conclusion.
The easiest way to understand this is to ask yourself how many h-manga/doujins are about mother/son. Do you actually believe that whole market doesn't have mothers?
>>141612478
Maybe they're 3DPD? If my sister looked like my animu waifu, I'd go for it.
>>141612478
I don't know. But that's not how science works. You don't just haphazardly come up with a reasonable sounding explanation and cite it as fact. That's pseudoscience.
The best answer is seriously just saying, we don't know but it probably has to do with evolution.
>>141612498
Not him, and I guess you are right, but that doesn't mean a thing, too different relationships
>>141612601
I'm an incestfag so I don't consider it disgusting but it's still a pretty bad supposition to make. I consider scat to be disgusting but that doesn't mean that the people who fap to it have never pooped.
The idea that you should be able to relate with all possible fetishes is simply something that people should know is stupid.
I just find it fucked up.
Cousins are okay, because they're more distant and less related, but sisters and brothers are just too close. Same with parents. Westermarck Effect or not, I just see them as family members.
Parent-Child incest isn't right, you've seen your kid ever since they just learned how to walk, and yet you find them attractive. Unless you're comparing them to your spouse, I just can't get into it.
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>>141610835
except its gay
>>141612747
Fuck off.
>>141611839
t. imouto fetishist
I don't really care, I guess. Still, the logic behind it being illegal is perfectly sound.
Yes, it's only a problem after several generations, but you obviously can't make an exception for only a single generation. So the only answer, for the sake of fairness, is to ban it outright.
>>141612175
I'm all for limiting the age of procreation as well.
>>141612917
>t.
Why don't you go meme on your own board?
>>141606311
>Why is incest considered to be so bad?
Many reasons
>>141612378
I've got an imouto and I don't find her attractive at all despite liking brother/sister
>>141612969
Nice argument, sisterfucker.
>>141613042
Fuck off cancer.
>>141613015
Thank god there are so many replies, otherwise I would have never known just how ebin and funny this is.
>>141613015
>archive.is
Go away, /v/
>>141607387
>>141607732
Still waiting for those pics.
>>141611099
>There seem to be no grounds for attributing the formation of this sanctioning system, by which an equilibrium is maintained between close and wide social ties, to any single set of innate human characteristics or to any specific set of historical circumstances. The universality of the occurrence of incest regulations, whatever form they may take or particular functions they may serve in a specific culture, suggests that they are part of a very complex system with deep biological roots
Not sure what you're trying to prove with this
>>141613015
fuck off back to /v/
>>141613323
literally right after the comma that you left out in the end
>a system that is both a condition and a consequence of human evolution. Variations in the form and function of incest taboos suggest also that the formation of human character and the functioning of social systems are so intricately related to specific historical forms that changes within a social system are necessarily accompanied by some breakdown in the previously recognized patterning of personal relationships. Widespread failure to observe incest regulations is an index of the disruption of a sociocultural system that may be even more significant than the more usual indexes of crime, suicide, and homicide.
>>141612745
You don't have to be into it, but saying it's not right without any reason beyond thinking it's not right is shitty reasoning. Or rather, the absence of reasoning.
>>141611184
>is 15/16
The whole scenario is too unrealistic, but even so, why not just ban underage sex between close relatives? By the time they've both come of age they'll be both old enough to make a decision for themselves.
This should be a no brainer though, even if we accept incest, it should still not be allowed until both parties are 18 or older, so that the family can still remain a protected environment with no place for sex, as the kids are growing up.
>>141607282
ouch
>>141612844
This
>>141613593
Are you saying that having sex indicates a lack of a protective and loving environment? Or just incest? Why? Why can't 15 year old twins have loving incest with their parents? Or do they just have to wait until they're a week older than 17 years and 51 weeks old so they meet an arbitrary deadline to gather in the family bed?
>>141613461
>Widespread failure to observe incest regulations is an index of the disruption of a sociocultural system that may be even more significant than the more usual indexes of crime, suicide, and homicide.
If you're implying incest is the cause of
>crime, suicide, and homicide
and
>the disruption of a sociocultural system
You got it wrong.
That simply means changes in societies are accompanied by more cases of people breaking the taboo.
>>141613817
Just incest, and I think an "arbitrary deadline" is absolutely needed in this case.
Fucking your family is kind of a big deal, you want to be mature enough to know what you're doing.
>>141606311
Different question; how do you like your incest served?
A. Manga
B. Anime
C. CG
D. Textually
E. in person
>>141613828
You managed to both misinterpret what I've been saying the entire time and the article itself.
As I said, I'm done. Discussing nuclear physics with a roadkilled deer would be more productive than continuing this shit with you.
>>141613917
First two plus VNs.
>>141613828
Or more generally, when all of societies rules appear to be flying out the window during the zombie apocalypse, people will kill other people before they fuck their mom.
>>141613593
Again, because by the time they're found out you have no way of telling when they started. Having lived together during one's youth gives too much influence for that to be ok even later
>>141613962
So the first 3.
>>141614018
What if they're just two random kids who lived next door to each other? Why does it matter when they started or whether they're related? All that should matter is that it's consensual and nonabusive.
>>141606311
because it produces retards like OP.
>>141613949
>>141609255
This is your first post
>It's like half of you are genuinely detached enough from reality to believe morals are absolutely useless and serve absolutely no purpose towards societal stability.
in which you imply a shift in how we treat incest will destabilize society.
Then you have:
>Widespread failure to observe incest regulations is an index of the disruption of a sociocultural system that may be even more significant than the more usual indexes of crime, suicide, and homicide.
Which states the opposite, that is destabilization of society produces an increase in incestuous relationships. There isn't much to misinterpret.
>>141614018
But what's preventing people from doing it now then? What I'm saying is it will still be illegal to have sex while still underage, as it is today.
>>141614145
>in which you imply a shift in how we treat incest will destabilize society.
No, you illiterate fucking mongoloid. A shift in how we treat incest will cause a shift in how we perceive it.
Jesus fucking Christ. I am not reading the rest of your post. Your dumbassery is so baffling I'm just sitting here for a minimum of 3 minutes trying to find words to express just how dumbfounded I am only to come up blank. Fucking hell. Have some consideration for my sanity by not exposing me to your lack of it.
>>141614300
>a shift in how we perceive it.
And? Your point was still that it will destabilize society. You're the one who came up with societal stability
>>141607973
I have a strong brother-sister incest fantasy, but my sisters aren't my type, also one is literally 11 years old that ain't cool
>>141614383
No. I just fucking refuse. No more. You get no more from me you worthless fucking cocksucker. Go stick a fork in an electric socket and die.
>>141614481
Sure thing. You definiteley won this argument big boy.
>>141607674
>most of our baseline morals stem from religion.
Haha, nope.
Most religious morals stem from the society/cult that invented the religion.
>>141607282
>>141606311
because it's superior to everything.
>>141614090
>What if they're just two random kids who lived next door to each other?
Acceptable, because they're not forced to live together and can easily cut ties, and that's the point in case
>Why does it matter when they started or whether they're related?
It's not ok for little children to have sex no matter wha, period. As for being related, that's not the issue. Living together is
>All that should matter is that it's consensual and nonabusive.
That's pedophile reasoning
>>141614438
>one is literally 11 years old that ain't cool
sounds like the coolest thing ever for me
Answer:
Everything we do is based on biological incentives. The true reason you don't really want to fuck an ugly girl is because she would produce ugly children, with less chance of passing on your genes.
The same is true for incest. There are no positives and some likely negatives to incest babies, so naturally humans want to avoid it. Now if literally every girl in the world was absolutely hideous and your sister was gorgeous, would incest be the best biological option? Possibly.
>>141613917
All of the above, and beyond.
>>141614438
>one is literally 11 years old
You understand the concept of aging, right?
>>141606311
Because the pimple that like it are annoying shitposters who try to push their meme fetish everywhere.
>>141608585
>You don't think it'd become commonplace for families to start marrying that closely within the family instead of bothering to find someone outside the family if they had the option to?
Well yes, because it's currently a taboo and also we know that it's likely to cause genetic fuckups.
>>141614616
If that was true we would have at least a few thousand times more teen pregnancies. Biology is not that important for humanity anymore or rather what once was crucial to survival is now becoming obsolete.
>>141614845
>If that was true we would have at least a few thousand times more teen pregnancies
Well that would be the case if we had no contraceptives.
>>141614268
You mean sex with underages, not between them, is a crime, right? That being the case, nothing stops them, but the same can be said about underage drinking. Still doesn't mean it should be legal
>>141614939
But why do teens take these most of the time? Because despite being perfectly fine for carrying children biologically it's not valued anymore. Some rules just don't apply anymore, humanity doesn't have to struggle for survival. The way we handle things now incest should be a-ok.
>>141615070
Because they don't want to deal with children.
>>141615197
Funny, my sister told me that she wanted a baby when she was still in school.
>>141614970
No I actually meant sex between related underages. Today it's illegal for them because of anti-incest laws, and my point is it should remain to be so for them even if we allowed it between adults.
>>141615284
There are exceptions to every rule.
>>141609588
Ehm, because decriminalising does not mean encouraging, nor is that its point?
>>141615287
Ah yes, i agree though I believe it should remain so afterwards
>>141610198
>>141610716
Mankoto you motherfucker.
>>141612162
Why is she so perfect, /a/?
/a/ is dead
>>141617529
It has its ups and down but I wouldn't say it's dead. Not with summer starting up.
>>141617575
Oh no you didn't.
>>141617575
there's hardly any anons here anymore. it's all outsiders
