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Why is Whitebeard so overrated? He literally got taken down by fodders and achieved absolutely nothing before he died. Even when he fought Akainu, the only thing he achieved was to give the Admiral some nosebleed, in exchange for half his fucking face. Granted an Admiral is comparable to strength to a Yonko, but despite of this I would have expected the World's strongest man to at least give Akainu a parting gift, (scar, lost limb etc.). From the looks of it, even Aokiji did far better than Whitebeard.
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He was old.
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>>141478835

He still was a Yonko and known as the strongest man in the world.
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>>141478482
Akainu was either unconcious or hid underground until Whitebeard was dead, think about that for a second
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>>141478482
>literally taken down by fodders
>implying Blackbeard and his crew are fodder
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>>141479308
And Akainu, and a sword in his heart.
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>>141478482
Fodder are still deadly in One Piece. Bullets harm anyone but special Devil Fruit users, swords do too, and overall a ship needs a crew. This is why the Supreme King's Haki is deadly, fodder is too.
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>>141479631
>King's Haki is deadly
But it's *literally* not?
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>>141479631
>use king haki
>entire enemy ship is paralyze/asleep with bubbles in their mouths
>stab them
>not deadly


ok.
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Top tier fodders actually. Just compare how much Luffy beat compared to the actual fodders army of ennies lobby.

Let's add WB couldn't unleash most of his quake powers or he would kill his crew.

Also, I remember that Oda said in an interview Akainu was supposed to die here but ended up sirviving for plot purposes. Might need to confirm that though.
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>>141480141
Provide the source. Otherwise those words are as good as trash
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>>141480245
That´s why I said it would need confirmation, light indeed be wrong.

Though anyway, most characters does have massive plot armor. Akainu survived because Oda needed him to.
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He confirmed One Piece's existence for sure to the entire world pretty much.
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>>141480141
Would have been pretty cool.
Or at least have him crippled beyond redemption.
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>>141480507

Whitebeard still at least could have given him a scar or something like that. If Aokiji managed to fight Akainu 10 days straight and gravely injure him, there is no reason why Whitebeard couldn't have scared/permanently wounded Akainu at least a little bit.
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>>141478482
Let's think about what he did before he died, just combat. He oneshotted a giant, got STABBED through the chest, and -still- managed to manhandle Akainu, whos power rivaled that of a normal Yonkou. All while being old as shit, enough that people noted the loss of his power
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>>141480611
Only reason is Oda, he got quaked the fuck out, of course he should have had some scars.
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>>141478482
>literally got taken down by fodder
When did this happen? He didn't even fall after dying . And he was beat by a future yonko crew and an admiral.

>think a already sick, wounded, old and dying man would give a admiral who is still healthy a parting gift.

That ass whooping was enough, plus didn't he break ribs?
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He made Blackbeard reveal himself as a coward piece of shit too.
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>>141478482
fodders hurt
bullets hurt
cannon balls hurt
he was old
he was sick
this isn't dbz
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>On the brink of death
>Multiple fatal wounds
>Old as hell
>Really sick
>Takes out an admiral in two hits
Yeah pretty overrated desu
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>>141478482
Oda wanted to show us the limits of what was considered to be the strongest in the OP universe at that time.
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>>141478482

>tfw we all used to make fun of 4Kids dub for giving Sanji a Brookyln accent
>he ends up being a son in a mafia family years later

Am I the only one who's thought about that?
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>>141481003
>quaked the fuck out
That made me smile.
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>>141478482
Let's not forget that Akainu fell through a fissure in the ground (don't remember if this was anime.original or not) and scaped, otherwise he would have been stomped to death.
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>people not liking Sanji

fucking plebs
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I really hope Jinbe shows up this arc. He's already confirmed as the tenth.
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Is post-TS Kuzan on par with, weaker, or stronger than he was pre-TS?

Could he beat Sabo in a 1v1?
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>>141488067
Most likely on par, potentially slightly weaker or stronger depending on how Oda spins the aftermath of his fight. I would bet on him staying the same though.
As of right now I like to believe he could beat Sabo, but endgame Sabo would almost certainly win, and personal bias aside Oda would probably have him beat Kuzan if it happened "now".
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We seriously need a Chapter. Threads are slow and boring, there aren't even the usual shitposters.

who /monet/ here?
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>>141484840
That's anime original, in the manga Akainu is blown back into HQ and buried under rubble.
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>>141488995
I'd rather a dead thread then a thread with shitposters.
But yes, I am a Monetfag.
Not THE Monetfag however.
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>>141489166
The only shitposters that really needs to fuck of are the shipperfags. The others are more or less comfy imo
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>>141489240
......
When you put it like that I guess I can't actually think of any non shipperfag shitposters that I mind.
Can anyone else think of some?
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Can Tech the two fruits because he is a descendent of a devil? I wonder if Oda is going to give luffy a second fruit later
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>>141480548
Flat earth
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>still posting old pasta
>still replying to old pasta
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>>141478482
>old man past his prime
>stabbed through the chest
>wrecked marineford and everyone on it
>overrated
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>>141480832
>>141479102
>a normal Yonkou
What the fuck is this head canon. There are only 4 yonko; they are all unique and we know almost nothing about their individual power or whether or not Whitebeard's 'strongest man' was more of a formality in his old age.
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>>141484666
>Brooklyn accent and not a Italian accent

I still think 4kids ruined he anime before toei officially ruined it.
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Who is the most overhyped character by fans in OP and why is it Garp the fist?

I mean yes he did have some amazing feats
>fighting on par with the PK
>being the marines hero (for unknown reasons)
>destroying 8 mountains
>destroy chinjo head
>training 5 of the strongest characters by the end (ok helmeppo is left to be decided)
and the listen can go on I bet. So don't get me wrong what he has done he deserves the praise but Garpfags will swear up and down he's the strongest marine ever when that has never been stated. They will say that he's stronger then both Kong and sengoku just since oda hasn't hype them up as much.
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>>141479102
>the strongest man in the world

In his prime and a few decades after Roger died, but not the old version that couldn't dodge Squardo's attack or defend from Akainu because of heart failure. I'm sure Shanks and Kaido could beat old WB, but because they never fought he got to keep the title even in dying breath.

Just like Shanks is not necessarily an inferior swordsman to Mihawk, Blackbeard just has to kill Shanks so Zoro never has to fight him.
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Who is the most underhyped character by fans in OP and why is it Wapol?

He did have some amazing feats
>Eating himself
and the listen can go on I bet.
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>>141495951
My bad I meant list. And no he isn't underrated he has always sucked. Most under rated would helmeppo
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>>141495419
Wow what a faggot
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>>141496307
What a garpfag
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>>141480128
>blades don't kill people
>sleep does
What the shit is this logic?
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>>141485208
>muh nosebleeds
>muh won't hit a woman
Ignore the faggots, Sanji is boss.
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>>141479777
>being able to knock out armies
>not dangerous
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>>141496934
>muh i'm gonna keep jobbing post-TS
Sanji is a shitter
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>>141488744
>Sabo is admiral level
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>>141495419
You need fist of love.
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>>141496221
help-me-poo didn't eat himself
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>>141499826
No I don't he can keep them

>>141500192
I'm glad he didn't , that would make him shit.
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>>141500356
but he would be gone he would not be shit
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>>141498644

Sanji is the Yamcha of OP. A jabroni of the highest order
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>>141488067

Sabo needs time to master his devil fruit. Ace could probably beat Kuzan tho
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>>141500733
I think it would be poetic if Sabo took down Akainu.
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How suicidal will SANAfags be when this happen?
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Struggle struggle struggle. Luffy struggle with trash mobs. Zoro cant cut invisble strings.. Dropping this.
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>>141498667
>logia
>strong as fuck haki
He kinda is, but the lower ending maybe
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>>141478482
>Why is Whitebeard so overrated?
Now that's a way to start a shit thread.
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>>141478482
72 years old and marineford was before Oda came up with shit like augmentation haki etc, lots of the commanders were underpowered because of that too.
That's why faggot
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>>141478482
What i found more impressive than Whitebeards performance was Akainu only needing some minutes of rest after an earthquake to the ribs and one to the face.
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>>141505616

Haki did exist back then. How else was Whitebeard able to hit Akainu and do him harm?


>>14150563

This guy gets it.
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>>141506242
Haki has existed since Whitebeard's clash with shanks, it's when most of the established facts of it began to be introduced, shortly was Shabondy with Rayleigh doing his shit and after that Amazon lily.

Hardening only cam after the timeskip because Oda realised an invisible doesn't explain show or explain battle difference in comparison to what happened before, otherwise it'd littlerally just be the same fights however now people can hit logia when they couldn't before.

the black colour change is just for visual clarity.
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>>141489240
Last thread said that he's got a new job and can't post as much anymore due to a night schedule.
Isn't that something? Years of shitposting, thread bitching, complaining to mods, arguments and fights, and the one thing that actually stopped him in the end was IRL bullshit.
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>>141506623
> Marinford would have become niggerswar if this had been a thing before
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>>141496934
This is exactly why I hate him.
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>>141500681
>not Jobroni
Nigga
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>>141507519
The nosebleed thing has resolved itself.

Could it be the woman thing does too?
Maybe he'll acknowledge female pirates as true adversaries for Luffy's sake.
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>>141508114
Hhaven't seen him kick a bitch yet.
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>>141508114
You mean he'd only fight women who are at around the Monster Trio's level? That could be cool but there would only be like 3 fights in the whole series. The majority would still be dudes.
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>>141495419
He was at the very least Sengoku's equal despite not having a DF. Kong is almost a totally unknown factor. I think that at least Aokiji, Akainu, and Kizaru could all individually give Garp a run for his money, especially since he's getting up there in age now.

I just want a few chapters of young Garp and Sengoku adventures. Tsuru can come too.
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>>141508473
I can only imagine the trail of slain bitches Garp left up and down the Grand Line during his first tour of duty against Roger.
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>>141508586
None. Tsuru would beat his ass for trying. Then pat his head
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>>141508639
Nah she'd have been too shy to admit she wanted Garp to herself.

Seems she was hot-shit in her day though.
Even Doffy was afraid of her.
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>>141508742
>Tsuru
>Shy
Nigga, get the fuck outta here. Tsuru is alpha as fuck. She would have grabbed Garp's dick any minute of the day.
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>>141508473
Roger, Whitebeard and prime Garp were like the strongest guys ever. Sengoku and Rayleigh were still yonko level but abit weaker than them because they didn't have the will of D so they wouldn't go that apeshit crazy like Roger or Garp. WB didn't have the will either but the destructive ability of his fruit is still fucking deadly in 1v1 without allies to damage. Tsuru was admiral elvel at the very least because Doffy was scared of her.
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You don't hate Monet.
You hate the shitposters.
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>>141508856

>Tsuru
>Admiral level

If she was that strong, why didn't she become an Admiral herself? I mean she doesn't seem like the type who would reject promotions. Also her devil fruit sucks ass.
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>>141508941
This.
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>>141508941
I hate her for attacking and mutilating that marine.
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you don't hate carrot you hate shitposters.
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>>141509025
that marine doesn't hate her for it though
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Quick reminder this is canon
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>>141509066
I hate her for being loud and obnoxious.
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>>141509086
He probably got retired with a pension, but if I were him i'd rather keep my right arm.
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>>141509066
I do not like Carrot much so far. Pedro, Pekoms, Wanda, Neko and Inu are all better minks.
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>>141509102
>>141509143
kys
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>>141509025
I want Monet to attack and mutilate my dick.
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>>141509156
Know yourself?
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>>141509066
>hating Carrot
this should be a bannable offense
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>>141508944
If you want to intimidate pirates, who would you choose? An old woman or a young man with logia powers?
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>>141509156
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>>141509163
Too late, she's dead
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>>141509102
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>>141509267
Exactly, she's annoying. Hopefully Sanji will eat her. If she joins I will be angry.
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>>141509246
Not inside my heart. And dick.
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>>141509066
>>141508941
>>141509179
>>141509196
>>141509267

Why is this turning into a furry thread?
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>>141509318
Basically it's like Hancock though. Monetposters forgive all her sins because she's beautiful.
>>141509339
Oda's going through a furry phase.
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>>141509281
Nobdoy cares about your feelings
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>>141509369
You replied so you do. Fight me IRL, we'll meet at Glasgow International airport.
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>>141509339
this isn't furry anon, there are not multicolored dicks, farts, inflation or gay shit that belongs to furries, imagine carrot as puffy girl.
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>>141509401
You want to fuck a rabbit, that's pretty furry bro
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Never forget based Jack, he tried to save us from the furries.
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>>141509339
>bird
>furry
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>>141508944
>Also her devil fruit sucks ass.

wat

Her Devil Fruit incapacitates the enemy completely. Basically land it once and they're done.

Also she can literally wash off evil from pirates.

If anything it's one of the most underrated fruits in the series.
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>>141509427
I'd rather he saved us from faggots posting horrible coloring jobs
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>>141508114
You take away the whole honor about women thing and hes just zoro, you cant do that. Although i could see him protecting a woman from another woman maybe at some point
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Urouge is sitting on his ass.
Bonney is a hobo.

When will Oda give them something to do in the plot?
All the other supernovas seem pretty busy right now.
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>>141509457
>Implying the colouring job isn't worthy of the Jobmeister
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>>141509427
Shut up Anne.
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>>141509423
no it doesn't.
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>>141509479
Urogue will become relevant when Enel comes back

Bonney has already been proven to be more important to the story than almost every other supernova besides Law and Luffy.
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>>141495419
Grap is without a doubt stronger than Sengoku. Granted, it might be marginal, like a Luffy to Zoro comparison but its still there, whether its actual physical strength or "The will of the D".
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>>141509539
who will be the boss? Enel or Urogue?
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>>141509698
really nigguh?
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>>141509539
You're forgetting Cuck the Kid
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>>141509698
Enel, and Urouge will be his chief priest.
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>>141509539
>Enel comes back
Sure he's a big deal but the NW could be a rude awakening for him.
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>>141480832
Yonkou isn't a power level, goddamn Anon.
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>>141509743
Hes got that #moontech
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>>141509743
He'd be fine, he has high level observation haki already and is way way above the 'power level' of any of Doflamingo's subordinates.
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>>141508856
The Will of D is not a power boost.
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>>141509827
Yeah but he needs Amor Haki or it's fucked.
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>>141509898
He can fly which would keep him out of most danger, but learning armament haki wouldn't be too hard. Even random kuja villagers have it.

Enel can destroy countries, and that's even when he's warring with a guy made of rubber.
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>>141509862

>Will of D
>D
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>>141509862
But the people who have it got higher willpower. they are willing to go further to win than other people. Like Luffy vs Crocodile.
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>>141509743
Enel got smacked around because he never had to defend himself really. Even then, he still gave Luffy a run for his money.

Offensively Enel is a goddamn powerhouse. If he trains up and learns armor haki, he'll be a beast.
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>>141509945
That was with the ship's help, though. Really, armament haki is a problem for Enel, but Rokushiki is a way worse issue for him. He depended on being faster than Luffy at every turn when his logia immunity failed, and with things like Soru that's no longer a guarantee.
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>>141510005
>>141510005
>Offensively Enel is a goddamn powerhouse. If he trains up and learns armor haki, he'll be a beast.
I don't dispute that at all.

I'm saying before that happens somebody would kick his shit in.

He fought and lost to Luffy but he probably consdiers that an anomaly and never trained.
He spent the last two years sitting on this ass on the moon.
Actually, he doesn't even really have much motivation to come back at all.
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>>141510005
But this as pre gears Luffy who was still fodder after that powerup pre-timeskip. He has a long way to go or he'll end up another smoker
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>>141510047
that would be pretty cool if he fought moon king, and got beat the fuck out, then he trained to become stronger.
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>>141510066
>fodder
stop using this word so wrong
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>>141510047
Wow you should write one piece
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>>141510123
Nah litterally was fodder in the wrong. He was weak and generally divided attention from the more powerful players in the war. He wouldn't have gotten half as far as he did without back up.
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>>141510140
Yes, I am Oda.
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>>141510188
>>141510140
>>141510047
No I am Spartacus...I mean Oda.
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>>141510168
that is not what fodder is, just stop
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>>141510188
Whats gonna happen next? Is it gonna be revealed that zoro also spent 2 years doing nothing?
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>>141510168

Naturally he wouldn't have saved Ace without backup, however he was regularly assaulted by the Admirals & Mihawk. In all honesty, would you really expect a Paradise Rookie to defeat some of the strongest people alive?
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>>141510168
Nigger, "fodder" are the countless marine soldiers who got knocked out by Luffys CoC for example or the ones who got fucked up by the dozens when Whitebeard swung his weapon.
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Learn the fucking difference
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>>141510209
Do YOU even know what fodder. Is It's short for cannon fodder, weaker infantry you send out to divert attention of the canons from your main more powerful forces.

Do you honestly think Luffy was was one of the main more powerful forces? The only reason he wasn't blown away in the wind is because WB commanders decided halfway through to protect him. WB even told him when they spoke not to get in the way.
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>>141510309
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>>141510353
you are fucking embarrassing, shut the fuck up already
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>>141510402
so you have no retort and honestly have no idea about about you were originally spouting good to know.

Next time keep your mouth shut
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>>141510438
>actually thinking Luffy was fodder at Marineford
wew lad, sorry but you are a fucking idiot that deserves to get punched in the balls repeatedly with a brick as far as I am concerned
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>>141510353
shut the fuck up anon, you only make yourself more pitiful.

By the way which marine can beat the shit out enel?
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>>141510438
I do not need to retord your fucking nonsense. Everyone can see and knows that you are wrong. Jesus Christ.
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>>141510470
The Marineford 'human' Vice Admirals. Momonga, Dobberman, Onigumo, etc. And above, of course.
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>>141510468
Still no retort. Why do you keep replying if you have nothing meanigful to say
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u guize - look at teach! that's the weapon that scarred shanky.

>whats up with marco - hadnt found his style/df yet?
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>>141510496
Sure man sure, I can see your one of those people that fling around words without understanding the meaning. There's a lot of those around here
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>>141510353

In my opinion, pre-skip Luffy was stronger than most of Whitebeards commanders (excluding Marco, Jozu, Ace and Vista). He one shotted a goddamn giant + defeated huge groups of Marine infantry.
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>>141510518
He probably scarred Shanks during a Whitebeard-Red Hair battle.

And ya, I'd bet Marco hadn't found his fruit yet.
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>>141510541
it baffles me that there really are people around here that are as retarded as you
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>>141510372
Kys
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>>141510221
Buy the fucking book.
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>>141510518
Bit late with that find, anon. But good job on noticing it.

And it was like 20 years ago so yea, Marco probably didn't have the fruit yet. It's kinda weird to imagine Marco being about 40 years old.
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>>141510614
>being this butthurt
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>>141510545
Thing is he is completely worthless, and I mean worthless against logia (outside of specif fluckes), which isn't true for any WB pirate with CoA haki. Smoker alone almost captured him if not for Hancock and h was a marine captain.
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>>141510655
Show tits you fat bitch
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>>141510552
yea, but I never understood before how he would have done it - three stripes over the eye. was wondering if nails or whatever like an idiot haha
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>>141510221
Nigga, what? That joke doesn't even make sense.
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>>141510663
still does not make him fucking fodder you stupid fuck
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>>141510607
says the retard who can't even come of with a different definition of t word that he supposedly understands. It's not hard. if you actually had the slightest inkling of what your were on about you would have a retort.

Calling someone someone stupid without an arguement is not a retort. It means your a child
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>>141510677
you're right, I should have used Kid or something
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>>141510679
haha heating up? not the guy you argue with, just wanted to point out that he would be easy to counter strategically if someone took the time to analyse him. Then he'd be a fish on land
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>>141510729
Yea. Or Smoker. Or Tashigi.

I still don't get your thought process with Zoro. Out of ll the Strawhats he's the one that's been kicking ass the easiest.
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>>141510704
Read the fucking thread, multiple people already pointed out what actual fodder is and why you are wrong
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>>141510663

Thing is, most Whitebeard commanders didn't even have Haki. Even the commanders who could use Haki, couldn't do jackshit to the Admirals.
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Will oda give us the semen demon?
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>>141510769
well the fact that he hasnt been pushed yet and hasnt really shown off any new abilities apart from haki
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>>141510826
this is not anatomically correct and looks goofy
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>>141510677
If marine captain level opponents can take you out with no difficulty, in the War of the Best, then there's a small difference between fodder and not.
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>>141510822
They obviously do. Just because you have haki doesn't mean that a logia can't separate before an attack acttually hits. Smoker was doing this a ton against Vergo who obviously did have haki.
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>>141478482
go home, Akainu
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>>141510837
Wouldn't that mean he's the one that did the most during 2 years since he's not even trying? Well, what's done is done. We'll just imagine Kidd's name.

>>141510870
Are you replying to the right person?
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>>141510947
>>141510947
>Smoker was doing this a ton against Vergo who obviously did have haki.
No he wasn't

Vergo literally said by becoming smoke it was making it easier for Vergo to hit him because he was covering a bigger area.
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>>141510947
Adding to this Marco has show CoA prior to this and the other guy held up mihawk.
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>>141510822
You're only saying that because Vista/Marco didn't insta kill Akainu here.

The commanders had reasonable performances against Kizaru/Aokiji.
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>>141511083
And look at the times smoker dodged his hits. Not all of his hits actually hit, smoker dodge a fair few due to his speed with the smoke
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he was sick as fuck and older than dirt. give him a break
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>>141511130

Marco only staled Kizaru for a little bit, doing absolutely no damage whatsoever. The only thing Vista did was to put on a mockfight with an halfased Mihawk.
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THE INVINCIBLE CAPTAIN JACK
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>you will never EVER lick Perona's sweaty dirty lolita feet after a hot summer day

;_;
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>>141478482

>Whitebeard
>Has a terminal illness was hooked up to IV machines and had nurses all around him
>Stabbed in the chest
>Shot and stabbed a million times
>Took cannon balls to the face
>Punched by akainu in the chest while he was having an asthma attack
>Still managed to destroy him in two hits after getting his organs roasted and half his face blown off
>Still managed to beat blackbeard
>Lived long enough after getting raped by blackbeards whole crew to yell that one piece existed
>Died standing up

He was pretty hardc0re mate
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>>141512109
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>>141512253
Even in death, he stuck a giant middle finger to the WG. What a guy.
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>>141512253
gives me chills m8
fucking oyaji
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For real though would you guys say Magellan is admiral level?
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>>141512518

>Doesn't have haki
>Got effected by preskip gear second attack
>"Admiral level"

I would say that Magellan probably is a little weaker than post-timeskip Luffy. He would probably give an Admiral a run for his money though.
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>>141512518
Not really. He's got a great fruit but a single jet bazooka brought him to his knees. He's the perfect for his job, no more, no less.
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>>141486816
Its pretty much a given right?
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>>141486816
Is he gonna take sanjis place as 3rd stongest, because ill be mad if he does
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>>141512879
No.
SANJI is stronger than him
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>>141513096

Sanji got oneshotted by Doflamingo, pretty sure Jinbe would have given him more of a challenge
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>>141512680
DESU I don't think Luffy's gear 1-2-3 punching strength improved that much over the timeskip. Maybe by 20% or so. The pacifistas armour was just (I think) resistant to attacks up to a certain "level" of force. Pre-skip Luffy's attacks were below it and post-skip Luffy's attacks were above it.
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>>141514278
Oy vey, this filter.
Anyway i'd agree that Magellan was just a bit weaker than post skip Luffy. Kinjite is like Magellan's "gear fourth".
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>>141514332

Still, all Luffy got to do in order to bypass Kinjite, would be to tear a piece of wall and punch it in Magellan's direction with Kong/King Kong gun, in order to knock him out.
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>>141514332
Magellan is on another level not because he is physically strong but simply because of how op his fruit is and how well he uses it, as soon as you start fighting him you're probably dead

I mean, he made 2 Shichibukai, Ivankov, Luffy and hundreds of prisoners including level 6 ones run from their lives because they knew it was pointless to fight him. Also one shot Blackbeard and his entire crew. I doubt post timeskip Luffy can compare to that
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>>141514938

None of the aforementioned people had Haki and most of the prisoners were fodder. Also Ivankov managed to give Magellan a Bloody eye and survived his/her battle with Magellan.
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>>141495419
Smoker the jobber is the most over hyped one piece character.
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>>141515224
remember when smoker was gonna be Garp? I miss those days
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>>141514938
The prison battlefield was a huge advantage though. Magellan's biggest problem is mobility, his Venom Road is handy but takes time to set up. Out in the open, characters can better avoid his attacks and his gases are less effective too.
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>>141515283
>fanon
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>>141508856
>>141509567
> Garp is stronger then sengoku
> the will of D makes him stronger

Do either of you have proof of this? When was it ever stated that the will of D was a power boost that automatically made you stronger then everyone else? And talking about WB DF power making him equal as if sengoku ability isn't crazy strong. As I've said only Garpfags try to put him on a higher pedestal.
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>>141515171
The only reason anyone survived a battle with Magellan was because Ivankov was there to counter his poison, you realize that?

>None of the aforementioned people had Haki
Source? I'm pretty sure at least Jinbei knows haki
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>>141515327
That's gonna depend on their ranged abilities then which Magellan also has

The problem is you can't touch him or even get near him or you're dead
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>>141515171
>none of the aforementioned people had haki

how about Jinbe, or, if you arent convinced by that, how about Blackbeard who doesn't even need aremnt haki because his bullshit fruit basically gives it to him
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>>141515520
this

unless you have Ivankof or the antidote you're totally fucked
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>>141515520
>>141515771

Or you cold simply replicate what Mr.3 did in Impel down and create some kind of buffer between your attack and Magellan's poison.
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>>141515714

Blackbeard had his crew+ escaped Impel Down convicts + Shiryu. Also when he first met Magellan, he underestimated him severely
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>>141515983
im fairly sure it eats through any material, apart from sea prism stone maybe
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>>141478482
Whitebeard said before he died that he would not always be the strongest. It should be obvious that he wasn't the strongest in the world anymore when he arrived at Marineford, that it was an earned title, and that he knew he'd die from the very start of the battle.

Even weakened by aids and having a literal heart attack while in the middle of combat he still made akainu hide until he bled out.
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>>141516095

It does eat away most Materials, however that process isn't instantaneous as it takes some time for a buffer to be eaten away.
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>>141515377
see:>>141509993
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>>141516208

It would have been funny if mrs. Bucking had given him HIV.
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>>141516261
Ahahaha, she's like three feet tall, how'd he even bed her?
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>>141516727
he pulls her onto his dick like she was a condom
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>>141516847
Since he was the world strongest man, that'd completely destroy her.
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If that scrub smoker can learn Haki in two years, so can Magellan. He should be admiral level by now.
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>>141516237
With this logic then BB is the strongest yonko. Also Just because you have a strong will and willing to go farther for the win doesn't mean you will win. sometimes strength is just to much to overcome.

But ok here's the real argument. In OP power levels can't really be gauged as a lot of things play into effect. With the luffy and crocodile fight, Crocodile could have won by all means. What caused luffy to win was 1) crocodile underestimated him and overestimated himself 2) crocodile just like all villians didn't make sure to kill the hero 3) luffy is an extremely lucky person

If even one of these elements was missing then crocodile could have taken him out the first time around. So to say the will of D will make someone go farther doesn't mean he will win. And who is to say someone else's will isn't just as strong? Like WB isn't a D yet fights on par with two of them? So in terms of just raw fighting skills and power I don't think sengoku or Kong loses to any of them.
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>>141509401
This. Carrot is pretty much a normal girl.
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>>141510518
> Marco
> using a sword

Eh? And he looks fat as fuck here.
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>>141517474
you're argument could hold water if you weren't being a fucking idiot and comparing people with vastly different levels of experience and skill. and who says teach isn't the strongest yonko?
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>>141517666

Pirates drank booze all the time and had shitty diets, it is a wonder why more aren't fat.
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>>141517363
Magellan wouldn't benefit that much from haki though. If a guy gets near him he just hydra's him and he's dead

Haki isn't that important for some characters
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>>141509427
Speaking of shitty fan colorings, has his official colors been released yet? I haven't seen that yet.
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>>141510822
>>141511130
Why are people always saying they couldn't do jack shit based on this part?

They're not Whitebeard who is strong as fuck but has shitty defense because of his old age.

Akainu vs Aokiji lasted for 10 days for god's sake, and try to remember how devastating their attacks are. Akainu's magma punch couldn't go through Marco's defense and hurt him either. It seems pretty clear fights of that level are of endurance because their haki nullifies most of the attack's strengh, just use ones like Luffy vs Dofla as reference.

Marco was considered as the next possible Yonko if not for BB. Seems pretty clear he's not far from the admiral's strengh.
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>>141517583
You're the hero
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBTu0heQTmc

I made a webm of the intro but it ended up being too big to post.
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>>141517666
Satan, wat? His legs look weirdcause it's a tiny ass panel but fat?
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>>141506623

>Hardening only cam after the timeskip because

Sentomaru used CoA in the Shabondy fight. Not to mention Garp's punch at the end of Water 7. It was only after the timeskip that he started making it change the color of the skin.
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>>141517583

Look at this furry faggot in utter denial.

Have some fucking dignity and just embrace your new found shit-tier fetish and move the fuck on.
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>>141517685
>if you wasn't comparing people with vastly different levels of experience and skills

Well it was you or some other anon who first used the luffy vs crocodile fight as an example to show Ds will go farther for the win. Which as I said , more then just going farther played into that win. My point is still the same, just because you're a will of D doesn't mean you get some willpower power boost like you're the MC or something.

>who's to say BB isn't the strongest yonko
Who's to say he is? Who's to say he can go take out kaido and big mom right now since he will of D will make him go farther for the win?
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>>141506242
>doesn't know the fist of love is just haki
Wew lad
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>>141518544
hes also got 2 devil fruits and before that is seemingly the only human who was able to land an attack on shanks.

the people with the name D are tenacious , theres a reason they're held in such high regard
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>>141518357
I believe Hardening is the black coating. CoA existed but not "Koka". And both Koka and invisble CoA has been used post-TS.

Koka wasn't a thing pre-TS becuse CoA was still being worked on.
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I guess BB learnt Haki? Quake power is broken as shit, but his defense is garbage.
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>>141518984
It's less about his defense and more about his fruit. His ability pulls in everything including damage. The fact that he can take that much punishment and be a-okay is amazing.
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I'm really looking forward to the next chapter. Never been this hyped for One Piece in a long time, Dressrosa dragged out for way too long.

What your expecting, Pudding to make a speaking appearance, more Reverie and returning characters hype, Vinsmoke brothers or Big Mom fully revealed?
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Why is this movie so disliked? It's dumb but it's fun.
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>>141519069
I was including the fruit thing when I was saying that.

I mean, no wonder he didn't seems to wants to fight Akainu, you can fucking tank him like that. And even with quake power, wouldn't he end the same way as in the Impel Down arc again if Magellan attacked him by surprise?

Still find it weird how he tanked Sengoku's attacks without much problem though.
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>>141518930
But invisible CoA still exists in post-TS, numerous times we've seen several characters using CoA without blackening.
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>>141519158
Because this fanbase hats robots. As we should.
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>>141519158
Too formulaic without much elevation of action. Also terrible CG.
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>>141519234
Does getting an antidote to poison mean your body doesn't make antibodies against it? I don't know how it works. But Teach might be immune, I guess. Magma would be miserable. Imagine the fucking pain.

Sengoku makes sense though. It was a powerful attack but at the end of the day, it was blunt force.

>>141519308
Nigga, I explicitly wrote that in my post.
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>>141519158
tits the movie
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>>141517363
Magellan would be a kickass admiral if it wasn't for his poison affecting anyone around him
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>>141518851
>holds two DF
True but doesn't mean he can take other yonkos out when he please

>only human to land an attack on shanks
I highly doubt this, you might mean the only one to leave a scar on shanks but 1) we've only seen shanks from the neck up, if kaido and WB both wore a button up shirt how many of their scars would we see? Plus just because a scar isn't left doesn't mean he hasn't last a fight. 2) we don't know where shanks was at the time in his life. He could have just been a few years in after Rogers death who knows. He said he wasn't slacking off but that doesn't mean he was yonko level at the time either.

>Ds are tenacious

They Are but it was never stated that having a D makes you stronger. Ds just tend to be in the center of most chaos that's it. Just how dragon is considered the world most dangerous man. Not because he's the strongest but because he's the biggest threat to the WG.
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>>141519355
Stop being a girl.
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>>141519618
Funnily enough, as an Admiral, his 4 hour shiftw would fine since no one is gonna bother yelling at Admirals like Aokiji.
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>>141519658
Wouldn't Carrot be interested by robots?

We need some exceptions for that joke.
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