http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-28/rage-of-bahamut-developer-cygames-establishes-anime-company/.100391
So a mobage giant with over a billion $ annual revenue is entering the anime industry.
Are all of their anime going to look as good as Bahamut?
It's not about money, it's about talent
>>141385539
But talent can also be bought for the right price
>>141385539
This. Mappa did pretty damn well with Zankyou no Terror the same year.
>>141385362
It won't be mappa, and they probablly won't have the Tiger & Bunny director so chances are low. I still have hope though
>>141385362
Why did Manaria get canceled anyway
>>141385601
Thought SnT flopped after episode 6 and nips didnt like it.The story was a total mess
Umamusume anime confirmed, then?
>>141385754
Delayed not cancelled.
Because they shifted the production to their new studio.
>>141385539
You're right, talented artists love to starve to death and lose their homes out of love for the craft in an industry struggling through on life support. No amount of money can buy talented artists, directors, voice actors, etc.
I mean, that isn't even considering how studios full of talented people never run out of budget and have to start making cuts just to finish 13 episode series.
>>141385779
>delayed indefinitely
That's pretty much a gentle way to say canceled
>>141385754
Rumors say it's Hoshikawa not delivering in schedule.
>>141385362
>Are all of their anime going to look as good as Bahamut?
Perhaps but they do better marketing for their shows next time. The bahamut anime went completely unnoticed in Japan when it was airing.
So are we finally getting actual fantasy adventure anime again? Apart from SnB, it's been a while.
>>141385362
Bahamut blew ite budget in the first 4-5 episodes. The rest didn't really look good.
>>141385790
>You're right, talented artists love to starve to death
It's true though. Most animators work overtime even if they don't get paid for it.
>>141385362
>Saving Nihon
>Opening own animu studio
Based.
>>141385897
Remember there's still Virgin Soul this year.
>>141385976
Last two episodes looked really good.
>>141385933
>Endride
>Re:Zero
>Seisen Cerberus
And that's just this season. There are countless more if you go back a little further.
>>141385933
No, we are getting reincarnation anime after reincarnation anime and the ocasional cygames adaptation. Yes, the fantasy genre in anime depends of mobages
They should do S2 of Legend of the Legendary Heroes.
>>141386025
>Remember there's still Virgin Soul this year.
Yep and that's why I hope they do better this time since they're funding everything by themselves.
>>141386053
>He's serious
I expect this to become a huge failure.
>>141386086
You can complain about their quality if you want but you can't complain that we're not getting shows about x just because the many shows we are getting don't meet your standards.
>>141386178
>He keeps being serious
>>141385362
Bahamut wasn't by A-1
>>141385362
Look as good ? Maybe.
I'm more concerned about the quality, Bahamut was good because the writers could do what they wanted, I hope they'll keep this trend.
>>141385362
If doesn't involves harems, moral, cool MCs like Touma, or if I can't self-insert into it, then I'm not even bother watching it. It's shit.
>>141385933
Well, Granblue is pretty much One Piece with flying ships and cute girls.
>>141386298
Most mobage/cardgames adaptations are shit because they focus on the game mechanics instead of the lore in it. Bahamut was a blanket lore wise so the created it from the get go, but if someone else had taken it we would have generic bland mc playing bad cardgame number 6482462 instead of the actual characters/monsters those cards represent and it would have been utter shit
>>141386298
>Bahamut was good because the writers could do what they wanted
And they came up with ultra generic jRPG plot.
It would be better if they just adapted one of the game events.
IT'S TIME FOR RACE HORSE GIRL ANIME
>>141386417
You seem to think original means good. Execution is much more important.
>>141386362
>cool MCs like Touma
>>141386421
Is the game even popular?
>>141385362
Good for them. Have they attracted any known names in the industry?
>>141386421
Mask girl best girl.
>>141386417
You mean
> ultra generic fun jRPG plot
right?
The story was generic, but executed well and had likeable characters, that's miles ahead of most mobile game/card game adaptations.
anime info?
>>141386421
>>141386529
It was great for like 5 episodes. Then it just became meh.
And first episode was too dumb in few places turning some people away.
>>141386438
Not that anon but the Lucifer storyline whould have been great. Favaro & co were great too though, so no complains from me. It does shows that execution is what matters
>>141386567
If they go with Gran and not Djeeta they are retards.
>>141386577
Well, Granblue will have pre fall Lucifer so we'll see where they go with it.
Are you ready for GOOF?
>>141386567
It was great for 6 episodes, fell a bit in the middle and became great again in the end. And so what if the first episode turned some people away? Of you try to pander to all sides you end up shitting everywhere from overextention and no clear line to follow. Besides, those that jumped ship in that episode would have never liked the rest anyway
>>141386677
>there were people who dropped it after the first episode
INCONCEIVABLE
>>141386619
I doubt the bastard would even show up in Granblue anime.
>>141386619
Unless Lucifer participates in the game main story it won't happen unfortunately
>>141386770
Many mobage adaptions do whatever they want with the anime plot and the characters anyway
>>141386770
I really don't know what they will do.
Game has a plot and all, but the most popular characters don't really take part in it.
The only exception is Vira's lesbo love story. Which is probably why the first trailer was 99% about that.
>>141386801
>>141386919
Do we even know when it will air?
>>141385539
It's really more about scheduling.
All the money in the world is worthless if you don't give your artists enough time to do anything.
>>141387016
There's also the creative staff just being difficult to work with as well
>>141385362
And yet A-1 is doing Granblue.
>>141387079
Are they really? We had no news in months.
>>141387079
They haven't said anything about that anime after the TGS PV so chance that it's stuck in a limbo like Manaria.
>>141387200
Cygames invested money in their anime studio. So those series are coming. They were just delayed.
>>141387192
This is all I know:
>Cygames, Aniplex, and A-1 Pictures will produce the anime.
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-17/granblue-fantasy-smartphone-game-gets-anime-manga-adaptations/.93036
>>141387200
Yeah, no director or writer announced yet.
Supposedly their entrance exam for in house animators is extremely strict.
They also seem to be actively pursuing talent.
Rumor has it Yoshibe Naoki, director of the Jojo OPs up to part 3 left Kamikaze Douga for them.
Also of interest: when asked what recent anime he had liked, Cygames anime division head Takeuchi Nobuhiro's answer was Ping Pong.
>>141387255
inb4 movie coproduced with Science Saru
>>141387255
They have money. They can become one of the top studios.
And a franchise like Granblue should get more than one anime series anyways. There is absolutely no way to squish everything from the game in one series.
>>141386471
It's not even out yet, not even a release date or official title.
They're probably ditching PA works too, they want the cash for themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYrVKLBhitE
>>141387620
Sweet fucking jesus
>>141387620
I think cygames might be trying to disney themselves desu
>>141387620
>>141385362
So you are telling me that Mobile games are not only taking Videogames away from us but now Anime too? Is there any way to stop them?
>>141388002
Who impregnated the white haired one?
>>141388062You.
>>141387620
That song reminds me of boob wars
>>141386417
>And they came up with ultra generic jRPG plot.
>implying that thats bad
>>141388090I'll take responsability
>>141388235
I certainlyhoofso.
>>141388265
>everypony-tier pun
>>141388265
It'sneighor never.
>>141388444
Taking responsibility is yourmaneduty.
>>141388057
Too late man
You gotta build a time machine
>>141388124
It really was though. I lost all interest in the second half.
>>141385539
The most talented animation studio staff are either at Kyoto Animation or freelance mercenaries who are hired project by project.
If you have the money, you can hire all of the anime industry's best at the same time and have them all do what they do best.
It has happened before. Studio DEEN with Konosuba, while not the anime of the century, managed to hire the dream team of freelance artists and writers for that particular project and change everyone's opinion of the studio for a few months.
>>141388971
Yeah, that's why I don't pay that much attention to studios (aside from KyoAni), only the top staff.
Please explain "dream team" in regards to Konosuba.
>>141386021
>most
>talented
Sturgeons law
>>141388485
Bridle your enthusiasm. It is a neigh impossibility for the seed of man to impregnate the equine. It is of no matter how hard one may buck in the saddle, so to speak. You would hoof to sur-mount the barrier betwixt she and the rider. I would hay-t to be hoarse in tone, but is the manhood even of size to filly satisfy her?
>>141389016
Konosuba ended up with good animation, character design, and pacing. It was a solid season overall with no glaring errors or cuts that DEEN is known for. For DEEN, they got it right this time.
>>141388971
>konosuba
Anon seriously?
There was nothing exeptional in konosuba's animation.
It was only great because the nature of the source material fitting well with deen's quality style.
It was a funny anime with cute girls. It's not a big deal
>>141389450
Konosuba's animation was consistent throughout.
This in and of itself is exceptional, especially for DEEN. Most projects falter mid-to-late season. Konosuba did not.
Normal IS exceptional.
>>141389567
>>141389371
>>141388971
If you're going to praise DEEN for making a good show regarding it's production value Rakugo is a way better pick than Konosuba. Unless you're a fujoshit boogeyman shitposter.
>>141389371
True, but it got a bit quality in the final episodes.
>>141389691
I chose an example more people were familiar with.
>>141389716
Only here and there. As a whole, they managed to pull it off.
>>141389329
Free booze-chocolate from Kaede for you.
>>141389791
Well, they do say always take gifts from a horse in the mouth.
>>141385362
What's gonna happen to MAPPA?
>>141385539
Lots of money is necessary for talent.
While there might be some people who are willing to spend all day in a sweat shop making wages comparable to a fast food employee for their passion, generally, people who aren't completely worthless seek out highly competitive wages and great working environments. When you don't pay a lot, you're kinda starting to enter a "beggars can't be choosers" situation. If an industry as a whole fails to pay decent wages and offer descent working conditions, most talented people avoid the industry altogether.
>>141388124
Endride is literally as generic as Bahamut. People give less of a shit becomes it looks cheap as fuck.
>>141386647
She's going to be a complete slut, isn't she?
>>141390262
Nothing? They did two series with them, it's not like they depend on them to exist.
>>141390626
>Lots of money is necessary for talent.
Found the retard. Toei is the most profitable anime studio in the industry and they sure as fuck do not have the most talent
>>141385824
Why are they still promoting the anime then? They are just moving it to the new studio.
>>141390749
I didn't watch past one episode of either, but Endride spent more than half the episode with a bland, normal MC following his boring ass everyday life. Bahamut had a way better intro as far as being a fantasy anime goes.
>>141391058
>He claims that a certain factor is vital for a top quality product!
>However, if this one factor being present doesn't guarantee a good product by itself with 100% certainty regardless of other variables, then that means that it wasn't vital after all!
Ironic that you would call someone else a retard. I never claimed that money automatically meant a good product. Mismanaged money is worthless. What I claimed was that it was necessary to have an A-team.
Toei actually does have some decent people working for them. However, their scheduling is fucked. There are stories from the animators about not getting told what they were doing for an episode until a few hours beforehand. The best animators in the world couldn't produce anything better than trash with this kind of organization.
>>141391436
>However, if this one factor being present doesn't guarantee a good product by itself with 100% certainty regardless of other variables, then that means that it wasn't vital after all!
Yep that's usually how it goes also A-1 and Sunrise. Tons of profit but their "talent" ratio is lower than KyoAni, BONES, and SHAFT largely because their focus is on marketability over quality of the product.
>Toei actually does have some decent people working for them
Not really, biggest problem with Toei nowadays is that their talent pool is low and has nothing to do with rotations tgey literally don't have the in-house talent like they use to.
>The best animators in the world couldn't produce anything better than trash with this kind of organization.
By your stupid ass logic Evangelion shouldn't have existed. Hell WIT is still standing despite their garbage production cycles and management.
>>141391936
>Not really, biggest problem with Toei nowadays is that their talent pool is low and has nothing to do with rotations tgey literally don't have the in-house talent like they use to.
Go watch their precure shows anon. You don't know anything.
>>141392203
>Go watch their precure shows anon.
>precure
Kek
>>141392203
Or Robot Girls.
They don't give a shit about generic shonen adaptations because dumb kids will watch them anyways.
They never gave a fuck in the times of original DBZ either. Sometimes you would have 3 episodes of charging kamehameha.
>>141392533
He's right though.
>>141392203
Even precurefags aren't happy with the production values of the new installments. The fact that they look better than OP doesn't mean anything
>>141392596
Is this supposed to be bad?
>>141392203
>precure shows
The last consistently well animated PreCure show was Heart catch which was followed by Suite which looked like garbage throughout then Smile which also looked likelike garbage, etc. Also PreCure has had the same animation director for the last six installments now.
>>141392596
I can cherry pick too ya know.
>>141392564
>Robot Girls.
That show is barely animated thougg its cut don't look as bad as OP due to the short length.
>>141392822
Sorry but that DB webm looks like 5 times worse.
>>141392927
Here's your (you)
>>141392927
It looks about the same honestly though the PreCure obe has erratic camera movements to find the fact that its fairly choppy.
>>141393004
>find
*hide
>>141392596
What's so good about this?
>>141393093
The choreography and fluid movements. Also some nice camera angles although not the best from the show.
>>141392822
That DB webm looks like shit though. Look at all the stiff movements and repeated frames.
>>141393362
>Look at all the stiff movements and repeated frames.
So its just like classic DBZ
Rage of Bahamut english servers shut down 29.02.2016. Looks like all this promo from anime worked well for them.
>>141392951
You can't be serious. This one is even worse.
>>141393554
Western mobile players have short attention span.
Japanese Bahamut is still working fine.
>>141392203
Precure still has overall garbage animation,the webm you see on /a/ are either from movies or cherrypicked moments that come once every 5 episodes.
>>141385362
I wonder if people sperging out over stuff like this and Netflix realize that giant companies are already into anime and that it doesn't make a difference because good businesses don't spend more money than they need to just because they have it lying around.
>>141394160
Which is still about 10 times better than average Toei shows.
>>141393554
The game is hot garbage to begin with. After seeing the anime then going to play the game I was shocked at out low budget and chinese-tier cheap it looked, and played, for that matter.
>>141394280
>Which is still about 10 times better than average Toei shows.
That doesn't say much of anything. 10 times 0 is still 0
>>141393544
>Implying classic DBZ was good.
>>141394081
Post the webm of the final boss. That fight was epic.
>>141386053
>those
>actual fantasy adventure
Pick one.
>>141386394
Picked up.
>>141394160
>cherrypicked moments that come once every 5 episodes.
That's pretty normal for a long running show.
>>141385362
No, you, retard, they aren't going to pour their billion-dollar revenue into a side venture. Their anime will look normal.
And if we had a fucking clue about when the anime will air these threads could actually be granblue threads
>>141386417
Execution is more important than originality. Most AOTS that get lauded by /a/ are generic as fuck, and only receive the title by virtue of excellent execution.
>>141395238
Well there have been some normal threads before
>>141395238
I don't want those anymore.
>>141392596
I wish Precure wasn't so shit and boring 90% of the time, I actually like a lot of the style and direction from what I've seen and what I saw of webms posted on here.
I also love how the girl actually got dirty and scuffed up from being kicked around. It always annoys me when people are in fights and remain immaculate despite being hit and thrown into the ground.
>>141388971
>The most talented animation studio staff are either at Kyoto Animation
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
>>141385539
Amen to that.
>>141397022
But he's right. KyoAni has some of the best animators. It's not animator's fault that they are forced to work on shit series.
>>141392596
>>141394081
I want to watch Precure, but that shit will turn me into a real fucking Otaku.
My life is shit just from watching Love Live.
So will these guys help on Bahamut S2 or is that too early?
>>141397819
Doubt it. That's probably still 100% MAPPA.
>>141397379
>real fucking Otaku.
Have I gone back in time 10 years or something?
At any rate, where the fuck do you think you are?
Are you ready for another 10/10 loli vampire?
>>141385755
It flopped because the story sucked, not because of budgetary reasons. There's no denying ZnT had plenty of money and talent on hand, they just weren't utilized properly for *insert varying reasons all socially related*.
>>141385933
>>141398399
>It flopped because the story sucked,
Please. The top seller this season has a shitty story
>>141395238
They could be comfy.
>>141398476
What does that have to do with anything? ZnT promised X and delivered Y for reasons only attributable to social cowardice, so people got mad and stopped watching it. That has literally nothing to do with whatever garbage Japan is sucking up this season, which both promised and delivered X and therefore didn't disappoint whatever cheap exploitable expectations it was meant to target.
>>141398783
It didn't promise anything. People just jumped to conclusions based on pretty much nothing, point is that the quality of the show has never stopped it from selling.
>>141395371
A bad story can be redeemed by being told well. Little can be done to redeem a good story told badly.
How fluffy will the anime be?
>>141399033
Never enough
>>141399033
Well it'll be at least a little fluffy considering three or so eruns are important to the story.
>>141398905
That makes no sense. If a story is bad its just bad, how well you concentrate shit doesn't stop it from being shit.
>>141399161
I read the fan wikia, it doesn't have much in the way of story shown. Is it summarized somewhere?
>>141398902
How new are you? ZnT was hyped months in advance as being an anime about ultragenius terrorist boys making playthings out of the government for revenge and their agenda and the hapless moeblob hostage forced to watch all this unfold as the observer. That's promising X. Instead, they gave us two clever experimental test subjects and their moeblob tagalong that one got a crush on who got punked by their oh-so-convenient fellow experimental test subject set in contention against them while actually accomplishing nothing. That's delivering Y. ZnT's failure is the story not being what was advertised despite it having excellent production quality.
>>141399219
I don't think anyone has summarize the story, sorry.
>>141399219
It's one piece in the clouds with the ending of the first arc being a fight against Akasha.
>>141399244
>ZnT was hyped months in advance as being an anime about ultragenius terrorist boys making playthings out of the government for revenge and their agenda and the hapless moeblob hostage forced to watch all this unfold as the observer.
The show never promised that at all, you're confusing expectations based on nothing to reality and have nothing but yourself to blame if you walked out disappointed. Something being "hyped" isn't the same as the creators promising something and not delivering.
Will the alchemists be relevant?
>>141386025
>Saving Nihon
do they have a game that increases birth rates and GDP?
>>141399244
>ZnT was hyped months in advance as being an anime about ultragenius terrorist boys making playthings out of the government for revenge and their agenda
But that sounds like shit.
ZnT was only hyped by a tiny minority of fags thinking it's going to be like next Death Note or something.
>>141399622
World is overcrowded anyways. Stop with this retarded birth rates meme. Only people who want more births are rich as fuck corporate fags.
>>141399708
Proofs, tovarisch?
>>141399772
If the current population had first world level of consume, resources would be insufficient to answer the demand
>>141399149
once tails don't fit through a door anymore it could become a problem
>>141399354
To add onto this I think you could just try that game sometime, I mean the story's all in there. Didn't think it was all too bad myself either.
>>141399842
We make the door bigger then
>>141399842
[ ] refuse to make the world a happier, fluffier place
[x] make all doors in the world bigger
>>141399819
that's an argument for reduction of population that doesn't already have reached 1st world standards. but someone has to maintain and advance the level of civilization, we need already-civilized people for that.
I hope the anime will have twincest but Cygames wouldn't do that because they're retarded.
>>141386556
> To put it simply, there won't be much moe material (smile).
>>141399161
>3
One
Ferri was irrelevant
>>141400099
Do they say it it will be the main story or just that whatever it is won't be moe?
>>141400101
By your standards Vira would be as well.
That aside neither Drang nor Freesia aren't either, so there'd be at least 2 important erunes.
>>141400245
Vira was at least important to a main character.
>>141400349
Fat load of good that did her since we never saw her in the story afterwards.
>>141400420
At least it didn't feel like total filler like Ferri's segment since it gave Kat backstory.
>>141388971
>change everyone's opinion of DEEN for a few months
Just a few months? I thought it is going for a long time.
>>141401044
Only those that liked that meme show are praising DEEN now though
>>141400626
Celeste and Chevalier's islands both are fillery by my standards.
Eugen, Rackam, Rosetta, and Vyrm have important backstories that factor into the plot at multiple points. You can't really say that with what you learn about Kat at Albion.
If you think that Vira is important because she fills in a little bit of story about one of the characters, by that token Ferri gains relevance by virtue of doing some of the same to one of the more prominent non-party members in the story.
>>141401159
How many chapters has the story again?
I've always wondered, is mobage short for mobile garbage?
>>141401264
Arc 1 ended with 62 chapters, with 63 serving a lot like an epilogue if memory serves.
Currently there are 65 chapters total.
>>141401298
why? are you thinking of using that as a nickname for yourself?
>>141401319
>stopped at 37 for events
Once the sakura taisen event ends time to go back to story mode I guess
>>141401335
put that razor wit down before you hurt someone
>>141385776
I came in to ask this.
>>141400626
>Kat backstory.
It is indeed fine.
>>141385601
that anime was shit though.
>Age of Shortstacks
Soon.The Working "sequel" critically lacks one.
>>141402477
Mappa needs to pick their anime better.
We need more translated doujins
>>141385362
does this mean more granblue and CG then I'm ok with it
>>141403800
CG event OVA would be nice.
>>141404227
I want Ranko and Amira cameos in the anime
