Just whatched it.
What do you think about it?
>>141325294
The Homu x Mami fight scene was great.
Everything else was shit. Homura did everything wrong.
>>141325294
Sequel bait movie that sets up for more suffering and yuri. I just want this ride to end.
It confirmed the OTP and made Madohomufags eternally butthurt because their ship isn't canon.
>>141325294
Pretty good but not nearly as good as the series. Annoying sequel bait ending. Homu did nothing wrongyet
>>141325897
What? Wasn't the whole movie basically about madoka x homu?
>>141325897
>madohomu NAKED SPACE HUG
>kyousaya hand hold while sayaka wearing gloves
Quite the opposite
>>141326074
It was mainly about Homura's rather immense obsession with Madoka.
I'll never understand why anyone would find Madoka as a likable main character, or even a character at all. She's more of a trope than a character.
an excellent non-canon movie
>>141326200
Yeah, I never understood this. One hand holding scene and KyouSaya shitters acts like they're in love. On the other hand, MadoHomufags have a concept movie kiss.
>>141326259
>Obsession
This meme.
Amazing visually d music-wise, great atmosphere. I'm kind of split on the actual plot; I need to know more about Homura's new world in order to judge the ending perfectly. Still one of my favourite anime movies.
masterpiece
>>141326615
>I need to know more about Homura's new world in order to judge the ending perfectly
You've been given everything you need to know to form an opinion. Not everything needs to be explicit.
>>141325294
I didn't realize KVA was involved in the production. I knew Shaft made it, but I didn't know about Key.
>>141325339
The cake song was pretty great as well as other parts. That wasn't even close to the only good part.
Homura saved everyone and everything.
>>141325294
I liked that homu was a goddamn monster in her plotting. I enjoyed that it all worked out for her and found the plot really interesting. The early scenes of the show were really not very enjoyable to watch though.
Overall I think it was okay and the ends justified the means.
>>141325294
Ai Yo.
>>141326200
>>141327378
I can shit on delusional Madohomufags as much as I want and watch them rage in butthurt
>b-but muh hugs
>muh Homura stalking Madoka 24/7
>homura did NOTHING wrong!
>>141327435
Madoka braid scene.
Madoka boat scene
>>141327435
Homura DID do nothing wrong.
>>141327461
Yeah next you'll say that Madoka and Homora standing together in the same panel means that they're in love
>>141327521
That is what happened with kyousaya and madohomu cheek rubbed.
Unnecessary sequel to a tied and self-contained story.
Kinda like this godawful fandom that's somehow still alive after 5 fucking years.
>>141327504
End this fucking meme. Homura did things wrong
>>141327558
>cheek rubbing means that they want to fuck! c-cause girls don't usually do that right?
>>141327564
End YOURSELF
>>141327613
>hand holding means they want to fuck! c-cause girls don't usually do that right?
>>141327625
You first, dear.
first 12 ep was good, anything else might as well not exist
I liked the movie. It wasn't as good as the series but this doesn't mean it wasn't a fun watch. Also, Homura is the best character so even if the plot was garbage the film would still be carried by her.
Madoka isn't a lesbian.
The happy ending the series deserved.
>>141327737
>No source
Pretty sure they've made it damn clear she likes Homura.
>>141325294
Kinda suffers from not having any stand-alone material, like the shitty 2nd part of a poorly planned trilogy.
>>141327461
This scene.
>Homura won
>Everyone is now happy and safe
>Incubators won't be a bother anymore since Homura did a better job at handling them than Madoka.
>Sayaka was BTFO again
Best possible ending.
>>141327906
Now she spends her days watching Madoka do ballet while she tells her she did nothing wrong.
At what moment did you realize that Homura is love?
>>141328008
The concept of love? About 5 seconds into episode 1.
The familiar love? When funeral dress Homura woke up and Kyouko stroked the cheek of the doll sitting at the Homu table.
>>141327970
It's perfect. Too bad Mami is going to fuck it all up, like usual.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.21.23_[2014.04.03_02.42.03].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Taffr2D.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_01.21.23_[2014.04.03_02.42.03].jpg")
At what moment did you realize that Homura is a spooky skeleton?
>>141328095
>You don't have to hate anyone anymore. You have me (cut off)
Mami will get decapitated again and Madoka will give up the ass for eternity on the condition Homura chills out and goes to the LoC with her.
Hidden under all the supposedly suffering is the best possible end this series could have.
The Homura as devil stuff seemed hamfisted. Like Urobuchi couldn't bring himself to write an honestly happy ending so he just tacked on a tragedy. Honestly, the main plot leading to Homuras salvation is a really good film on its own, even as it feels entirely unnecessary to the story of the show
>>141328095
Mami and Sayaka are by far the most garbage-tier characters in the series. I wonder why anyone likes them
>>141328270
Sayaka is by far one of the most interesting. Her story is the meat and potatoes of the whole thing.
Do you guys think Shaft will make a sequel?Do you think it needs a sequel?Do youwant a sequel?
>>141325294
It was extremely exhausting to watch since they really overused the art style they use on the labyrinths.
Also why did they recap information that was repeated to us several times in the tv show. Wasn't this made for fans? I already knew all that
>>141328312
There's already a sequel confirmed, try to keep up.
>>141328270
The official final rankings for the Madogatari Popularity contest were:
2. Homura
4. Kyouko
7. Madoka
9. Sayaka
Not on list: Mami and Nagisa.
Sayaka was literally rated lower than Snake.
>>141328305
She's more of a plot device than anything else, but yeah. The story does revolve around her for a while in the anime. Thing is that's hard to keep seeing her acting like a fucking idiot without disliking her at the end.
>>141325294
Has Kyouko had any interaction with Mami outside of being killed by her?
They are both friend of a friend tier
>>141328334
I hate Mami so much.
>>141328334
Rebellion is certainly better suited to a sequel than the original series was
>>141328336
>1. Shinobu
>2. Homura
>3. Senjougahara
>4. Kyouko
>5. Hachikuji
>6. Hanekawa
>7. Madoka
>8. Sengoku
>9. Mami
>10. Yuno and Erio Touwa
>>141328336
>2 homura
Who was first?Hitagi or the shit loli?
>>141328427
9 is Sayaka, not Mami.
>>141328381
She's a middle school girl. I think she acted emotionally and passionately, but not illogically. I pity her
>>141328393
Ready for Homu to get her ass kicked for the nth time? You can't keep the mammies down.
>>141328465
>Mami described as Guan Yu character
Yeah, Homura is fine.
Did you know Homura's wish was the result of Madoka's wish? It was the way the universe balanced itself.
>Madoka wish that suffering shoujos to be deleted before going witch.
>All that energy just disappearing.
The universe can't have shit disappearing when it's already suffering entropy.
>Now homura's fate is decided.
>She becomes the devil, brings back evil
>Summon wraiths, defeat wraiths to release energy
The reason why wraiths appear before Homura go ham is because her wish also transcend time like Madoka's(removing all the witch from the past and future)
>rips madoka out of solo suffering
>revive other dead witches
And most importantly
>Giving to-be-Mahou shoujo a purpose for their wish being granted again
Because without witches they literally had nothing to do
If incubators didn't need mahoushoujos to fight witches what good will granting their wish be?
Best possible end for Madoka plus explaining everything that transpired at the end of series.
>>141325294
>official art
These Japs truly have no shame
>>141328465
Mami winning against Homura in Rebellion was the purest form of asspull.
>>141328532
What, and you do?
>>141328523
That's a lot of bullshit
>>141328536
At this point I dont care who kicks her ass. I just don't want her to die.
Better than the series
>>141328536
It's the logical conclusion. Mami is the strongest. When she doesn't have emotional problems she's unbeatable.
Mami will become the enemy.
>>141328582
>Homura literally has the ability to stop time
>Mami is the strongest
Sure thing.
>>141328465
Worst character
Bullshit powers
Gross cowtits
Should've stayed dead!
>>141328618
She would have beat Homura if not for Sayaka's interruption.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.51.06_[2014.04.03_00.33.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qAxd5yz.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.51.06_[2014.04.03_00.33.38].jpg")
>>141328618
Yes, and we saw how that turned out.
>>141328648
Sore loser.
>>141328430
Shit loli.
>>141328523
So Rebellion is just explaining why wraiths appear.
>>141328698
No he made that shit up.
>>141328245
>Like Urobuchi couldn't bring himself to write an honestly happy ending so he just tacked on a tragedy.
Ultimately this is my worry with the sequel. Yeah, Urobuchi writes muh suffering, but I'd prefer if he gave the franchise a proper conclusion instead of probably trying to out do his last twist.
>>141328662
>>141328664
He's saying that that doesn't make sense. The ability to stop time is obscenely overpowered and almost no other power could or should ever be better than it. If anything, Mami managing to win was just because Homura didn't use her ability to stop time very well. It had nothing to do with power level.
>>141328662
>>141328664
Yeah, because the authors wanted that way. Doesn't change the fact that stopping and coming back in time is simply a better ability than controlling gay ribbons. The way they made Mami beat Homura was pure bullshit anyway
>>141328832
But it makes perfect sense. Homura brings people in physical contact with her along with her time stop, we already knew that.
>>141328833
Any power is good if used creatively. As we saw.
>>141328832
Her powers are just total asspull, they make them up to suit the story they want to tell. "We want to have a cool fake out at the end of the fight, so now Mami can somehow make a perfect ribbon clone of herself." Compared to Homura's powers which are defined and fairly consistent.
>>141328733
Just because it wasn't fed to you on a spoon like a fucking baby doesn't mean theories are bullshit in a thought-provoking show such as Madoka.
Were you here just for the cute girl doing cute things, anon?
>>141325294
Rolled back some of the character development, but we got tons of cool scenes
I want to stick my dick in crazy.
>>141328998
Fine.
>>141328906
The way Mami manages to avoid her powers makes enough sense, but what doesn't is why Homura would even confront her in that way in the first place. If I have the power to stop time, it should be trivial to stop it well before hand, walk up to Mami's now completely helpless form, take out a weapon and blast her soul gem to bits without Mami ever having the chance to retaliate.
>>141325618
>>141325339
>implying
That Homu x Sayaka confrontation later was pretty good too
>>141329044
Don't you love Homura x Mami?
>>141325294
Where does Kyouko get all her good from?
>>141328936
No one's powers are completely defined, Homura has laser blasts which she never uses because some reason, and she can drive a tanker truck while standing on top of it. And we see her using her time buckler as a shield exactly once. Mami's powers never got the chance to really be fully fleshed out in the series before she died so they were free to extrapolate her making stuff out of ribbons into making a clone out of ribbons.
>>141329049
Uh, what? Homura had no choice, Mami was the one who initiated the conflict.
>>141328270
Sayaka a best.
>>141329071
>>141329100
Cut it out.
>>141329049
Does it bother you that you are too stupid to appreciate the plot of a children's show? Or do you not even notice?
>>141328906
>Any power is good if used creatively. As we saw.
>Uses an ability that was never used or mentioned before
>Ability that could have saved her at the third episode of the series but she didn't felt the need to use it for some reason
>Ability that Homura somehow didn't knew about when she had the chance to watch what Mami could and couldn't do for more than years
>Those 10 years being filled with death and despair, which would give Mami plenty of opportunities to use her power
>Not to mention that Mami was able to follow Homura when she stopped time without no one seeing
They did everything they could to make Mami win. That's why it looked like bullshit.
It begins
>>141329140
>>141329157No.
>>141329103
>>141329145
Sorry, I forgot, I haven't seen the movie in awhile
At any rate, the point still stands, Homura's power's are still inherently better than Mami's in nearly all situations.
In fact, the only reason Mami wasn't beaten was because she got the drop on Homura. She would have lost if that weren't the case.
>>141329100
I do.
>>141329067
Doesn't look like a kiss, but atleast this seems to imply they're climbing that stairway to heaven together.
>>141329175
Sayaka explained this. Mami in Rebellion is so dangerous because she is at full capacity - unlike in the series, she has no loneliness and guilt holding her back, and her power expenditure isn't limited by having to ration grief seeds. She could never have pulled this stuff off in the series.
>Not to mention that Mami was able to follow Homura when she stopped time without no one seeing
Uh, it should be trivially easy to track down someone when you have a magic ribbon strapped to their ankle.
>>141329225
Yes, the only way to beat a timestopper is to be proactive and get the drop on them. Mami was smart enough to do that.
>>141329145
>Madoka
>Children show
Sure thing
>>141329225
But that's completely wrong.
Homura didn't stop time and randomly vape Mami because she is not a psychopath. She wanted to interrogate Charlotte, not kill her friend.
Mami, despite having a ribbon on Homura, never used it (except to keep in time). They fought toe to toe with guns; Mami won by core strength, Homura pulled a smart move however Mami had another level of defence up.
You kidding me?
>>141329273
But not as much as I do.
>>141329294
>Yes, the only way to beat a timestopper is to be proactive and get the drop on them. Mami was smart enough to do that.
>>141329325
>They fought toe to toe with guns
We're not talking about how smart or skilled they are, were talking about how powerful their abilities are. And Homura's are clearly more powerful.
![[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_10_[BD][h264-1080p_FLAC][AD0F4C42].mkv_snapshot_08.26_[2013.09.21_21.56.38].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/w1VeIuS.jpg "[Meguca]_Puella_Magi_Madoka_Magica_-_10_[BD][h264-1080p_FLAC][AD0F4C42].mkv_snapshot_08.26_[2013.09.21_21.56.38].jpg")
>>141329325
How long are pocky sticks?
I feel like this just isn't going to work, anatomically. Especially with wide faces like that.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.47.18_[2014.04.03_00.29.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l40h4eA.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.47.18_[2014.04.03_00.29.45].jpg")
>>141329384
Maybe that's what you're talking about. I'm talking about how Mami is the strongest. That includes every factor taken into account.
>my posts were removed
I guess, don't see the reason why but whatever.
>>141325294
It was fun.
HOMU MADE NO MISTAKES
>>141329443
I mean, it depends on what you consider "strongest" to mean. That's a fairly vague thing to measure. If you had an all out fight between Homura and Mami, Homura would win. What measure are you using?
>>141329397
Normal ones are about 6 inches, but you can get big ones that are thicker about about a foot long.
It's a lot of fun to eat them like that, if everyone coordinates.
>>141329294
>Mami in Rebellion is so dangerous because she is at full capacity
And in the 10 years that Homura kept coming back in time she was never at full capability?In the thousands of times that Homura repeated that timeline, Mami always died without using that incredible OP skill?Yeah, you could say that, doesn't change the fact that it looks like a major asspull.
>Uh, it should be trivially easy to track down someone when you have a magic ribbon strapped to their ankle.
Putting magic ribbons on the ankle of your friend at the exact time she will act sure looks convenient.
>>141329365
We can love them together.
>>141329297
Well, by "children", we mean "adolescents", but still, children.
>>141329397
A stick of Pocky is about 15cm long, 4-5mm in diameter, and coated in chocolate or other confection for all but the last 3cm. There is a Giant Pocky, which is three times larger.
Urh, fuck this.
>>141328596
>enemy
of my dick
>>141329297
It's TV14 at worst.
>>141329443
>That includes every factor taken into account.
Even that doesn't make much sense. If we were to go by character and psychology, Homura should have the experience of a magical girl in her twenties while Mami is only 14 years old. Not to mention that Homura is naturally more cold and analytical than Mami is.
>inb4 physical strenght
That has no relevance in this case.
>>141329590
Besides being the best pair they would also be the most powerful.
>>141329598
>>141329664
Madoka is made with manchildren otaku in mind, not children.
>>141325294
How old is Kyouko? Is she even Japanese?
Her flashback seemed set 1800 Europe
Homura's like a god so she could just wipe Mami out of existence but instead she was nice and gave Mami a happy life and that total bitch is just going to throw it back in her face and fuck up everything!
>>141329706
>best pair
Even you know your full of shit.
Much like your taste.
>>141329737
14
Magical girls also age because Kyouko now from then has grown her breasts.
>>141329706
>best pair
I think you're confused, anon
>>141329737
>inb4 blasian meme
>>141329706
I think there would be a struggle for who would top. Though Mami could easily tie up Homura
>>141329738
Why makes you think Mami has any chance against Akumura?
>>141329728
Doesn't make it anymore adult.
>>141329737
It's an Anglican church building, intended to resemble Canterbury Cathedral.
>>141325294
Why couldn't Madoka just wish Mami or Sayaka alive again?
>>141329737
If you didn't notice the anime looks like it takes place in Germany as well. You're better of not questioning it.
>>141329820
what*
>>141329808
Wrong too but we know you're not even serious.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.42_[2016.05.09_20.24.22].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lDKJWrc.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.42_[2016.05.09_20.24.22].jpg")
>>141329547
>in the 10 years that Homura kept coming back in time she was never at full capability?
No, because all those loops were in the same month, and Mami was always in the same situation. She's never just going to magically get her emotional problems fixed in a few weeks, and she's never going to ignore familiars and stop trying to save people in order to hoard grief seeds to have maximum power at her disposal. And even if she does do all that, it's not like she's always going to jump right to making ribbon clones. That's a fairly specific application of her power. Personally I'd go for the keki tank more often.
>Putting magic ribbons on the ankle of your friend at the exact time she will act sure looks convenient.
The scene where she attaches the ribbon is actually really clever. First of all, your shy little kouhai changes her hairstyle and loses her glasses and becomes all confident, and acts like this is totally normal. Then she starts asking all these really odd questions about the past, which your artificially altered memories flag as "very suspicious". Then, she asks you to go get you some more tea, despite having plenty left in her cup. If you watch closely you can see Mami lean over to check this before she leaves, and then pulls out the ribbon right as she casually walks offscreen.
>>141325294
Great movie, only people that dislike it are butthurt homufags who are in denial.
>>141329700
Homura should have that experience, but look what she does with it. She fails continuously. She's demonstrated time and time again that when it comes down to the wire, she slips up. This is what I'm talking about.
>>141329825
It does though. It's still marketed towards adults, whether those adults have the mentality of kids or not is another story. Arguably, anyone who watches anime at the age of 20 is immature in the mind of a japanese normalfag.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.30_[2016.05.09_20.23.32].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EoJWiHK.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.30_[2016.05.09_20.23.32].jpg")
>>141329865
Homu's tea.
>>141329834
Because Madoka is a dumb slut and ungrateful bitch.
>>141329865
People just don't seem to understand the fighting ability of the magicals against each other. If they weren't gods and didn't just bearly turn this is what it would look like.
>>141329819
Sometimes people can be equals.
>>141329808Very cute. Saved.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.37_[2016.05.09_20.24.16].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1lXDQ5f.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.37_[2016.05.09_20.24.16].jpg")
>>141329950
Mami ain't buying that but acts cool anyway
>>141329962
No one asked for your dump powerlevel chart, idiot namefag.
>>141329865
>homu couldnt notice mami's that shallow ribbon attaching trick
Why is homu so clumsy?
>>141329962
Stop posting this meme chart. We know Homura would BTFO anyone just because of her OP time manipulation ability.
>>141329962
>this again
Despite Madoka not being a power level based anime; How do you hypothesize these ranks?
>>141329989
I didn't ask for you to reply to something you obviously didn't agree with. Nice try.
>>141329999
And thats why you don't understand the anime.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.44_[2016.05.09_20.24.27].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/e7aNbuM.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.44.44_[2016.05.09_20.24.27].jpg")
>>141329989
La la, let me just prance off to the kitchen and out of sight, I am totally oblivious right now
>>141330049
You are the most annoying piece of shit namefag in the history of madoka threads. Congratulations.
>>141329999
>anyone
Can she BTFO Madoka?
No. She would rather BTFO herself.
Checkm8
>>141329865
That is some insane paranoia even if she did end up being right.
>>141330024
You can call it an extremely educated guess. Truth is they all could beat each other under different circumstances but this is going of who would be most likely to win in an even one on one battle.
>>141330099
I'm glad you recognized me. Can we stay on the subject though? You wouldn't want to make this thread to be about me now would you?
>>141329865
>No, because all those loops were in the same month, and Mami was always in the same situation
Doesn't make much sense considering that Homura said things weren't always the same each time she tried to change the past. Mami is clearly more stable in some of them and less stable in others, proof of that is how she acted like a retard and tried to kill everyone when they discovered the secret about magical girls one time, but didn't attempt the same thing in other timelines when the same thing was mentioned.
>it's not like she's always going to jump right to making ribbon clones. That's a fairly specific application of her power.
It just doesn't make sense for her to NEVER use such a useful ability.
I'll give you the point about the ribbon though. It wasn't as bad as their fight. I think that it just seemed worse than it really is because of the other factors in the fight, like everything was conspyring against Homura or something
>>141328163
Anon, there are spooky skeletons inside us all at this very moment.
>>141330049
>And thats why you don't understand the anime.
Wow, what a knowing statement. I can tell you are steeped with the wisdoms.
This has never been a series about powerlevels. Homura's effectiveness in particular is determined wholly by how it's used. If she wanted to, she could obviously just stop time before she meets anyone and assassinate them all. Obviously she's not going to do that. Conversely, if someone gets the drop on her, she can be rendered helpless pretty easily. Neither of those means she is above or below the others, it just means it depends on the situation. And that font is fucking stupid.
>>141330120
>even one on one battle
Doesn't exist. Whiteroom fights are moronic. The situation will always be the most important factor.
>>141330119
It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
>>141330120
No, Homura kills everyone with ease in an even 1 on 1 battle.
>>141329962
>Posting power level charts
>>141328456
>I think she acted emotionally and passionately, but not illogically
Do you read your posts before you send them out?
>>141330173
2spooky4me
>>141330193
I love how you Homura fags state this and when asked why the only argument you have is
>muh time travel
I've give at least twenty good factual reasons why all the magicals placed above her would come out on top most of the time.
>>141330172
>Homura said things weren't always the same each time she tried to change the past
I don't think she ever said that.
>Mami is clearly more stable in some of them and less stable in others
The sliding scale is more like "barely hanging in there" on one end and "flipping her shit and murdering everyone" on the other end.
>It just doesn't make sense for her to NEVER use such a useful ability.
We didn't actually see every timeline so we have no way of knowing. Even if she does use it, if it's done right Homura might not even notice. Or maybe it just takes too much magic to be practical to use in a universe where magic is a sharply limited resource.
>>141330193
And then she steals their panties.
And then she wins.
>>141330193
>>141330304
Good lord, this is embarrassing. Go have Saitama vs Demonbane arguments in another thread or something.
>>141330304
Go for it. I can't imagine a single situation in which time travel doesn't win in any circumstance.
Also I'm not any sort of Madokafag, I'm just an antiretard fag.
>>141330176
And that's called a sneak attack. If Madoka wanted to for instance she could just take Homura out when she wasn't expecting is and you could probably do so as well. Great argument.
>>141330049
>Understanding the anime=buying into the asspull that was their fight
>Understanding the anime=buying into meme charts
Objectively speaking, Mami won against her and you could use that to say that she is indeed stronger. However, the point is that the author wanted to make Homura lose, he didn't took power level, intelligence or strategy into account, he just made it so that Mami could win against Homura, which fits pretty well in a fanservice movie.
>>141330398
Yes, and Homura's entire combat style relies on sneak attacks. Allow them and everyone else is at an unfair disadvantage, disallow them and she's at an unfair disadvantage. That's why some sort of fair and balanced powerlevel scale is impossible to make.
>>141330398
>it
>>141330357
It's discussion about the show. Please ignore it or post non relevant material in another thread.
I'm pretty sure Gen stated in an interview somewhere that Homura is the strongest if she can use her time ability, but a lot weaker otherwise.
>>141330357
Honestly, this is actually much better than the image dump and tripfag circlejerking that these threads generally have.
>>141330467
Stop being an idiot namefag and I'll consider it.
>>141330452
Anybody else could sneak attack Homura just as easy as she could them. It's no advantage. It's just a matter of who thinks about it first. That scale isn't based off of sneak attack but upfront battles.
>>141330193
Sayaka kills Homura's pussy even easier.
>>141325294
HOME RUN DID NOTHING WRONG
>>141330515
No, because Homura's ability allows for sneak attacks that cannot be reacted to in any way. If both parties are notified that they must kill the other at the exact time, Homura will always win.
>>141330526
Indeed
>>141330515
Homura's main tactic is NOT HAVING to have an upfront battle. She gains a disproportionate amount of advantage from getting to act first. That's a factor that you can't balance in either direction.
>>141330562
Remember kids, Sayaka say, "Batteru upu!"
Kyoko for instance has the ability to entrap her apponents into close quarters situations with her chains and could attach one to Homura who hasn't shown even one time the ability to dodge Mami's ribbons. Kyoko has the power of illusion magic and can far out do what Mami did with her single ribbon clone. Homura would be destroyed to say the least in a close quarters engagement with Kyoko. Remember when Sayaka stopper her from time traveling by shoving her sword in her time machine. A blow like that from Kyoko would likely break Homuras arm and send her flying into a wall. She wouldn't be able to heal from it in seconds like Sayaka. It was stated the blow Sayaka took from Kyoko should have hospitalized her for months.
>>141330720
None of this matters when Homura can just freeze time and blast out their soul gem.
>>141330317
>The sliding scale is more like "barely hanging in there" on one end and "flipping her shit and murdering everyone" on the other end.
Imagine someone trying to change what happens in one month for more than 10 years. Don't you think that it would try literally everything it could to help its case?Add that to the fact that some things do change depending on the timeline, and don't you think that Mami would be at least stable enough to fight with a little ease?At least to the point where she would think about using a extremely useful skill that could save her numerous times?
>We didn't actually see every timeline so we have no way of knowing. Even if she does use it, if it's done right Homura might not even notice.
Like I said above, you could say this kind of thing and It wouldn't be necessarily wrong. But it does sound a little too convenient, just like their fight and the other things I mentioned.
>>141330812
Okay she freezes time and shoots her soul gem. As she's walking away she's stabbed in the back. (It's the real Kyoko)
>all this talk about fighting
Just like capeshit recently.
Why can't the magis just all join hands and sing?
>>141330870
Either that or she ties her up with chains and questions her like Mami did.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.23.51_[2014.04.02_23.36.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/2Ch8dgd.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.23.51_[2014.04.02_23.36.11].jpg")
>>141330870
Rosso Phantasma out of fucking left field
O U T S K I L L E D
>>141330720
And yet, Kyouko couldn't do anything when Homura interfered in her battle against Sayaka in the anime. She just stayed there watching, without being able to do anything.
The very fact that Homura was survives while everyone always die is proof enough that Homura has the strongest power.
>>141330720
Kyoko acts so arrogant about her power but she couldn't beat Sayaka; a rookie magical girl and Sayaka's witch.
>>141330870
Blast all of the illusionary copies. If she can just straight up turn invisible fire in every direction you can. Nothing beats the ability to freeze time.
>>141330933
always survives*
>>141330914
>rosso phantasma
We're talking about the anime characters, right?
If so, spin-off manga abilties aren't present.
>>141330933
Only because Kyouko didn't know what Homura's power was, and Homura knows everything about Kyouko. Then in episode 8 she's just all, what's this spooky girl doing, OH SHIT A GRENADE
>>141330891
why can't 4chan and tumblr just all join hands and sing
>>141325294
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>>141330618
Holy shit, his last thread got deleted and he fucking goes ballistic. Talk about shitheads.
Dude, fucking enough is enough.
>>141330933
As if I've never heard this argument before. She interfered in that fight and both Kyoko and Sayaka weren't expecting it. Anybody would have done the same with her and Mami's fight.
>>141330949
She was enjoying herself fighting Sayaka and she killed herself fighting Sayakas with because she gave into despair.
Nice try.
>>141331115
>Sayaka's witch
Holy Madoka.
Can anyone explain to me why there are no worse people in the world than those people who support crack shit? No, seriously, this has been going on for over a year.
>>141330987
What I mean is, Kyoko COULD beat Homura, just like I could beat a polar bear, but the chances of that happening are very unlikely. The only way any character can beat Homura is if she makes a mistake or if that character gets extremely lucky, or if that character have the advantage. When people say Homura is the strongest, they mean that she is the one with most potential and also >>141329700
, but things like bad luck and surprise attacks can still get her.
>>141330954
except the time limit / magic energy required to sustain the time stop.
shooting someone invisible is a crapshoot in of itself, and also they are MGs, whos not to say alongside becoming invisible the kyoko homu saw becoming invisible was just a projection on the other side of the field or something,
even with shooting everywhere it's doubious at least if it one of the shots actually touched her. and with a time limit you cannot shot exacly every where either.
sure, homu maybe can manage that due to how she practically did something similar against walmart, but, do you think she would go and exhaust all that fire power for an unnecessary opponent? she needs to keep a certain power balance, and any excess violence would be counter productive in the long run.
![Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.53.21_[2014.04.03_00.35.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Mh8RdTU.jpg "Puella.Magi.Madoka.Magica.the.Movie.Part.III.Rebellion.mkv_snapshot_00.53.21_[2014.04.03_00.35.54].jpg")
>>141330827
Personally, I've never bought the "100 loops" thing. I know Urobuchi said it, but it's never implied in the show itself, and doesn't jive with what we see of Homura's behavior to me. I'm uneasy basing arguments around it. You can argue that Homura should have seen a lot of shit in the anime coming if she's done it 100 times before.
>it does sound a little too convenient
Eh, there's no way to argue against that. I thought it's plausible in retrospect. Can't say much more than that.
>>141331224
That really just proves my point, that a straight up "powerlevel" scale is impossible to construct, because too much relies on circumstance and foreknowledge.
>>141331224
No Kyoko has Homura 8/10 times in a even non sneak attack battle.
So, I wonder how many posts in this thread are all made by a single person. I mean, !Akemi will go to any length possible to shitpost and attack people as much as he possibly can. I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of this thread was all him faking a conversation with himself just to keep the thread alive.
>>141331090
Better late than never.
>>141331165
I blame the parents
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>>141329808
You even have the same file names in these posts, you fucking moron. And then you trying to say "saved" to make it look like you weren't the one posting it.
>>141325294
This movie was fucking AWFUL. Homura ruined everything over a sick abusive obsession with owning Madoka. Every character was assassinated, there was no plot, fuck it.
Madoka never loved Homura, which is a good thing, because Homura is inhumanely cruel and evil. Madoka never considered her a friend and wanted her gone, the concept project will be about them all killing Homura mercilessly. Fuck Homura. She deserves to die alone and unloved. She is not a person, she is a monster without love. It is justice that Sayaka, Madoka's most special friend, Mami, who Homura hates and let die, and Kyoko, who Homucunt betrayed, will all have a hand in her death. Madoka will be happy to watch her die.
>>141331165
Wouldn't exactly call them the worst but they are bar none the most toxic on this site.
>>141331115
Except Kyouka had no idea what was happening. Homura could have killed her at that time if she wanted.
Just saying that's impossible to beat Homura if you don't know her ability beforehand.
>>141331228
This is obviously under the assumption that this fight is all out and that she needs to kill Kyoko for whatever reason. I'm also under the assumption that the limit for how long she can keep time stopped is in the order of hours at least, since she never shows any concern for how long she stays under in the show.
>>141331231
I would expect that reliving the same month, each one culminating in your best friend's/crush's death, for ten years would get so maddeningly mind-numbing that you'd probably start forgetting some of your past iterations just to preserve what fragile remnant of sanity you're still left with.
>>141331334
Only one of those is me, senpai
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>>141331340
You'd figure that after you have thread deleted by the mod even you would take the hint that you're doing something wrong. Considering that Troid will out right refuse to actually do anything against crack shitters.
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>>141331377
No, both posts are yours. As are both of these posts yourself.
And no, you saying that only one of the posts is yours is not "triggering" anyone. It's people pointing out how stupid you are.
It's utterly pathetic that you've been so wrong about everything your whole life that you have to convince yourself that anyone who calls out your mistakes is upset in some way.
>>141331385
Fist link is that I'm glad you're here.
This about when Mami and Homura were fighting close quarters. Do you think Homira would have time to use her time stop during something like that. This is assuming Kyoko couldn't attack a chain to her even though Homura has never once dodged any of Amani's ribbons and that Kyoko would be on a different lv in close quarters than Mami and the fact that Homira would be forced to fight close quarters because immediately after the battle started they'd be surrounded by chains. It honestly doesn'took very good for Homura if they decided to have a spur of the moment fight within talking distance of each other. Remember Sayaka vas able to stop her machine and that's from a good distance away not facing Homira and with her arms above her head and she still had one free hand to do any damage she might have wanted if she wished it.
>>141331263
That's why I'm saying that Homura is the Homura is the strongest, but that doesn't mean a weaker character can't beat her. Like I said, this also happens in real life, a better tennis player can lose to a worse one, but that doesn't mean that the worse player suddenly becomes better, he just managed to win at that particular time.
>>141331468
What the fuck have I done to get involved in this?
>>141331515
You're fooling no one with all of your fake trips.
>>141331284
You're literally delusional if you really think like that.
>>141331485
Sry about that spellcheck. I was paying attention to a game im playing. You all get the point though.
>>141331515
Being a dumb tripfag is enough to deserve any punishment
>>141331515
Being a tripfag, existing.
>>141331564
Whatcha playin?
The important canon to discuss is how much Madoka hates Homura, which is an awful lot.
>>141325294
It's honestly my favorite series of all time. Plot was great, characters were great, and the music was fucking superb.
>>141329921
>She fails continuously
Where?She's by far the most capable magical girl and that's proved again and again in the series. She doesn't manage to beat Walpurgis but that's just because it's impossible
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>>141331590
I'm posting in between deaths in Splatoon.
>>141331485
Time stop doesn't appear to require a great deal of time or effort to activate. If she got even a second of open time (which she should since they have to start on even ground), Homura has to win. Unless they are in direct contact with one another and she somehow has no means of severing that contact.
All this discussion about power level is just assuming that everyone knows what Homura can and can't do. Neither Mami, Kyouko and Sayaka can do anything against Homura if they don't know she can stop time.
>>141331614
>tumblr
>>141331708
Well, Kyouko managed to figure out that Homura can't use her power to escape when physically restrained. She just didn't make the leap to realizing that if she kept holding on, the flashbang would affect them both the same.
>>141331708
Homura is a powerless failure and Madoka never loved her.
>>141331727
Yeah that's almost certainly intentional on his part, it's kind of this thing he does
>>141331756
It doesn't take a genius to realize that.
Crack-kun is here.
>>141331884
Go figure, quit shitposting.
>>141331884
So powerful
>>141331884
>reposting screenshots of your own posts
How pathetic. Do you have no shame at all?
>>141331884
Overrated.
>>141331884
This is dumb, stop it.
>>141331864
In not Saying Himura can't win if she doesn't sneak attack I'm just saying if a close quarters engagement begins or Kyoko attaches a chain to her or thinks ahead with her illusion magic the fights already over.
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>>141331932
You want to know what makes it obvious which posts are yours? How every post you make refuses to address that sad mess of a human being that is Troid, and how he is the only person who defends you.
Do you really think so many people would refuse to address the exact same thing?
>>141331884
Holy shit, ACK got B-T-F-O of the fucking water!
HomuHomu
>>141331884
>>141332015
Look at how many times he replied to himself in that image. Wow.
And he just keeps doing it, because he HONESTLY doesn't see how transparent he is.
>>141332015
See even out of context this is a horrible post, no one talks like this. Please die in a fire.
>>141332015
>>141332038
Why do you put so much effort into your samefagging? You know it doesn't trick anyone at all, right? Oh course if you admitted that, you'd probably end up killing yourself.
>>141332015
Hm, can you tell me why Troid isn't "got B-T-F-O of the fucking water!" when his whole personal life and everyone about him was put on public display because he was stupid enough to link everything he does to a single internet user handle.
