How many anime production cels do you own
Post production cels
>>141318158
>>141318158
how much did that run you?
>>141319457
it's not mine
Is Ebay and Y!JA the best place to find them?
>>141318248
the crisp and clear acrylic paint
>>141320097
pretty sure on ebay
but im not sure how much they go
>>141318374
Holy shit! JoJo still use cell animation or this is just a fake ?
>>141321193
the OVA did
>>141318374
Ah. You lucky faggot. That's a good one.
I own a fuckzillion other cels from the OVA.
>>141321899
post'em please?
>>141321985
One moment
1/?
Megazone 23 Part II
Armor Hunter Mellowlink
>>141322201
2/?
>>141322363
3/?
>>141322519
4/4
That's all of em'
>>141322612
Forgot image. Hurrr.
>>141322201
>>141322363
>>141322519
>>141322652
thank you for dumping
how much did they run you
>>141322718
in total
about 10k
Thank to Shirobako i know about cell animation and why anime color from 90s,80s feel really different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sFCZhVOQUw
>>141322852
This boy ain't me. Why you gonna act like me, bruh?
>>141322718
Not as much as you'd think. $500 at the MOST. And that's a generous overestimation.
The Ghibli ones are damned expensive.
>>141322933
>>141323126
New scanner, it keeps cropping tightly to the image, but they are full cels.
>>141323269
>>141318158
To be honest I've never considered owning one but I really want an Eva one now.
>>141323511
Doubt you'll find one easily. Bought my Asuka over 10 years ago.
>>141322933
Is my memory failing or Eva's cells out there are actually reproductions?
I'm pretty sure that I read somewhere that the original one (surprisingly) heve never being sold, but then again it could be one of the countless Internet's unsourced facts about Eva.
>>141323610
There are lots of reproductions, "celuclub" or something like that, but they are the same few designs. Supposedly original cels were never sold, but there was quite a thriving market for them years ago on yahoo.jp. Of course if you found two the same that would be a dead giveaway.
Eva cels and the celluclub ones:
http://www.animecornerstore.com/neongenev.html
>>141322933
I'll be honest anon, I'm fucking jealous.
>>141324055
YFW
I don't have cels but I pretty much owned this and Shirobako genga collection.
>>141324196
Holy shit, man.
How much did you spend? These seems to be original.
>>141322933
That's pretty cute.
>>141324423
I honestly can't remember, it was years ago.
>>141324305
Azumanga, anyone?
>>141324575
more please
>>141325051
That's the only Azumanga one I have. Tried to get cels but never saw any, had they gone to digital paint by then? Not really sure.
rip thread
Besides a bunch of artbooks I own, I have a setting/reference book for Kill la Kill, Imaishi and Yoshinari drew on it. That's about it, if that even counts.
>>141326400
post it please?
>>141326481
Left page, L to R: Imaishi Hiroyuki with the Mako drawing, and Yoshinari Yo with Akko
Right page, clockwise from top left: Sushi, Aoi Eir, Kazuki Nakashima, Yosuke Toba
I also have one of huke's doujin artbooks. Met him and he signed the front cover
>>141326735
Imaishi pls lrn to draw
I need to get a bunch of these. My uncle has a shit ton of looney toons ones and they are fucking rare.
>>141326990
Imaishi > Yoshinari IMO
>expect joke/shitposting thread
>it's real
this thread should be archived
>>141324196
how much was that?
>>141326735
I'm mad jelly right now
>>141327820
Explain
>>141328395
I just find it odd that cels would be available to buy at all. How does it even happen?
Also archive just because you don't see a thread with cel scans everyday I guess?
>All the good Sailor Moon cels on both ebay and yahoo auctions are insanely expensive.
>>141327820
Aren't all threads archived, then eventually deleted?
Holy fuck original pokemon cel is fucking expensive.
I have seen Yahoo auctions full of these, are they legit? I would be pretty bummed out paying $100 for something faked or mass produced.
>>141324423
Evangelion cels are around $400-$600.
>>141318158
>QUALITY hands
Sasuga master.
>>141329139
Maybe this question is stupid but: cels are the frames used to make the anime aren't they? if so there must be a buttload for each show. if they run in the 100s each for a show like eva how much is the show worth with the cels alone?
>>141326735
post the huke one
>>141328506
Studios make it available for the public to buy. Studio gives cells to staff and they sell it.
>>141329312
If you are going to post on /a/ you should at least know how anime is made. And yes.
Shitposting is all fun and games until /a/ convinces me to spend $1800 on a fucking picture of the Major.
How can one bid on yahoo Japan auctions? Don't you need a Japanese address?
What's the best way to display cels? Frame them?
>>141329708
Every Yahoo Auctions seller is a shill-bidding faggot so don't expect to get a deal ever.
>>141329788
too orange
>>141329821
S-sorry I posted in the wrong thread. I have multiple tabs open.
>>141329862
no problem, still too orange though.
>>141329708
I have old war photos that I brought to hobby lobby and they frameed them and put them in a sealed glass container and the glass prevents sun damage and moisture and a bunch of other things.
>>141329891
You should add UV and IR filters for the Glass as they can damage the cell.
I bought my mom a cell of Storm from the old X-Men cartoon at a con once, but I didn't know anime did the same thing. Where do you guys get them? Do all shows do it or is it just luck of the draw on whether a show you like sells cells?
>>141329983
It's how they used to animate cartoons
>>141330267
Funny as to how (ed, edd & eddy) was the last CN show to use cells.
>>141330433
>>141329983
It's called cel not cell.
>>141328395
>>141328676
I miss when individual threads were archived.
>>141321193
kill yourself retard
>>141330649
Cel, Lesson learned.
>>141322976
Yes nigger, we all know how that shit works, stop posting like you are trying to teach something.
>i
>>141327820
Are you a time traveler or something?
>>141322976
please explain
>>141330267
I know that's how they used to animate, I meant do all shows that use them sell them or what?
>>141330649
Forgive my ignorance.
>>141318158
Hey OP, that's pretty nice.
How do I not get scammed by buying one on the fucking internet? How can you tell or not whether a cell is original or not?
>>141331452
It all depends on whether or not the studio wanted to sell them in the first place.
>>141331452
Do you have any idea how many cels get made for one episode of a TV show? They don't have the room for all that shit. They either put the important/iconic ones on display somewhere, destroy them, or some staff members gather them up and just sell them. Even Disney does it.
>>141331732
>feels shit
By investing on Canvas Networks
ITT: I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it.
>>141331732
You can usually tell it's real if it's not in pristine condition and isn't cropped in like a traced screencap from the actual show would be. Like >>141324196
Shows animated by Toei in particular used ink that yellowed with age, so ones like >>141328581 are obvious to tell apart.
>>141331897
>I don't need it, but if I don't get it it will never appear again and I will forever regret not buying it
Man that on anon wasn't lying about Ghibli cels being expensive.
>>141332157
$1800 is a lot of money anon. Especially when I don't know for sure the actual worth of something like this.
>>141332286
I'll buy it. Link it
Got this as a secret santa gift one year
>>141318158
God I wish there was some computer technique to more closely emulate cel shading, modern anime really looks plasticy. Kabaneri is doing it pretty well but still.
>>141332346
Just search for Ghost in the Shell cel on ebay.
What do I need to search for in japanese to find these?
>>141322933
Damn son, this looks great. I'm kinda glad I haven't seen this for sale because I would drop like $400-$500 for this.
>>141332443
That one show Tomino did just recently emulated it nicely.
>>141332551
Gundam reconquista? Yeah, how did they do that?
>>141332589
I can hear the DIC
>>141332610
Very carefully
>>141332668
I know who's sucking the DiC!
>>141332443
>Kabaneri
Looks plastic as fuck, 3 tone shading makes everything look greasy.
>>141332771
When done right it can look gorgeous.
>>141332443
It can be drawn digitally to exact cel shading and look exactly the same. But it's not done because that is seen as old animation in nipland. A wandering autistic tripfag can clue you in in exact detail to what I mean and /a/ is not short of them.
>>141318158
I used to own Rei smiling, but I sold it for like ten bucks.
>>141333467
It was probably a reproduction cel, not a huge loss.
Do settei count?
I'll never get collecting cels but I don't judge you for it because it's good to have a nice collection-hobby. I personally collect flags.
>>141329312
>cels are the frames used to make the anime aren't they?
Yes, back then. Now traditional animation frames are drawn and colored using art tablets like wacom cintiq so no need for cel screens. The genga or sketches like are sometimes done with pencils like >>141324305 and then scanned to do the lineart and coloring.
This is true for all traditional animation worldwide, not only anime.
Most of what I own. Still debating whether or not I should sell my soul and become an animator.
>>141333948
>I'll never get collecting cels
It's nice to have something that's a real piece of what you love, not just a reproduction or merchandise. Sort of the difference between collecting guns and collecting guns that saw combat. Also they make nice decoration, you can have 1 poster or 20 cels on your wall, and because they have simple designs they aren't flashy or tacky like other anime merch you can get.
>I personally collect flags.
I certainly hope you don't mean 4chan flag icons.
>>141334034
Have fun either moving to Japan and living in sweatshop conditions for years before they let you do key animation, or becoming a slave to calarts and drawing the occasional spongebob or steven universe frame once a year.
>>141332610
something with the way they layered their images?
I'm not too sure but I remember learning about something tomino had them do with the lines
>>141334150
Exactly well looks like im just gonna open my own studio and bring over the cheap Japanese animators to America.
>>141334191
Plus a grain filter over everything
>>141332443
the computer literally works the same as painting in cels. In fact it's better and faster because you can abuse the paintbucket.
The fact that anime nowadays use less shading tones and highlights it's just that times change, even though it could be done easily. Clean drawings have become more popular.
Lately I see a trend of making soft shaded anime like Prision School and Apollon, and gradients like Dagashi Kashi.
Every now and then I want to pick up cels of the childhood boner monsters from Sailor Moon, but stuff from specific episodes is hard to find these days. 90% of the cel sites on the old web listings are all dead. Everybody's on Rubberslug now and that's about it.
>>141332589
>SMOKING'S GOOD FOR YOU, YOU KNOW
>NO IT'S NOT
>TRY IT
>TRY IT
>TRY IT
>>141334268
Can you draw? Do you have money?
>>141334646
Have money. Know alot about chinese cartoon production and cost but I wouldn't want to open it without first being able to fucking animate. I cant self learn not disciplined enough so I'll have to go to school. Fuck CAL I'll just pull a Fraser and go to Tokyo the rich white weeb.
>>141334268
>>141334646
Do you know how to thrive in this Capitalist world?
>>141334877
The plan would be to shill hard on 4chan then open the Kickstarter once that's underway ill rub my hands real hard a pray to Jewish god. By then 3D will have taken over and the old fag animators will join my empire. After that I sign a deal with whoever is the biggest online entertainment service at the time.
http://www.tested.com/art/movies/442545-2d-animation-digital-era-interview-japanese-director-makoto-shinkai/
Interesting article I stumbled across a few days ago. This thread reminded me of it.
Posting Hibikek genga reprint that I bought from Kyoanus.
>>141335298
>>141335219
>>141324305
I am so jealous of these
>>141335977
You could find them in KyoAni shop in Kyoto if they still have them in stock.
>>141334034
b-but can you animate a character, anon?
>>141334034
Just develop a way to get passive income and animate for yourself. Don't make a a career out of it. I regret it.
>>141318158
I own just one. But it's still pretty good.
>>141334034
>worst doturd plushie
>>141337214
Lina is pro fag.
>>141334963
>shill hard on 4chan
>Kickstarter
Good luck, friend.
Not mine, but damn if I wouldn't want to have one
Can somebody lend me $500 CAD?
>>141338626
I wonder which set is this from.
If I ever bought a cel I think it would be a Cowboy Bebop one. It would be cool to own.
bump
![TYBA04710_01[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fSU2rzf.jpg "TYBA04710_01[1].jpg")
Just one.
>>141332286
>>141332346
>>141332502
I HAD EYES ON IT FIRST, FAGGOTS
I always find it weird that paint could make these kind of things. I guess years of what I think paint should look like screwed with my mind.
Actually tempted on buying. Somebody else do it before I do.
>>141318158
Next frame, B35, is currently up for $600 on ebay.
>go to Ebay
>a million CCS cels
>all over $40 each
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
>>141318158
Own?
Three.
Owned(destroyed)?
It's in the hundreds, I've lost count.
>>141340309
But anon, that's not a production cel, that's aPerfect Cel
>>141318158
>cels
I don't know what it is.
Why buying this? Print a pic with some filters and it's the same
>>141344803
ESL pls go and stay go
>>141344878
>esl
who?
>>141344803
haha, at least try to hide your jealousy when posting, lol!
>>141345516
>jealous of a picture
ok
>>141345647
You don't get it, so just don't worry about it.
>>141344929
You fucking spic
>>141345772
kabaneri? I don't understand
>>141344803
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cel
Basically they're a part of the creation process of the show
How fragile are these? Hard to conserve?
>>141345947
That's why they look so nice, I thought it was filters. My bad then.
>>141345995
The colour ones are paint/ink
>>141345647
They are actual cels from famous anime, which will pretty much get you pussy on tap whenever you mention it to any bitches, and that is why you're jealous, kid.
>>141331832
>any idea
For a decent show, without too many stills, about 15 000 including tweenies and OP/ED, which is a few boxes of cels. Even though this actually isn't enough for quite fluent motion budget restrictions mean that often cels are used repeatedly / creatively and stills are employed, reducing the number to maybe 5000 or so. A really high budget show might employ many, many more though.
A few boxes every episode... well, they might keep a few recent shows in storage for remastering, but realistically most cels will be sold or trashed.
>>141345995
>I thought it was filters
The fuck does that mean? Are you genuinely, literally retarded?If so, sorry I called you a spic earlier.
>>141346264
>The fuck does that mean?
Like you take a picture, add some photofilters and print it and it looks cool.
>Are you genuinely, literally retarded?
A bit.
I guess that's why I ended up here
I painted cels for a tv show back in the 90's and let me tel you it is a pain in the ass, still felt bretty good when I got to see the cels I painted on screen for about 2 seconds though.
>>141346496
What show did you work on, anon?
I want this. Does that count?It was animated by a Japanese team
>>141346496
>Animation in a nutshell
Eh.... rotoscoped grandfathered kid fucking cells. Traced from real video that's now against the rules. Maybe I'll post them in /h/ one day. I'm still a bit in the air on whether it breaks the rules if it's drawn but based directly on real video.
>>141348194
That second horn looks like one of those mind controlling zombie fungi.
>>141348301
Didn't understood shit but there ain't any rules.
>>141348576
Well you're a fucking retard.It's clearly an antenna. I bet she gets great reception.
>>141348301
I don't even understand what you just said.
Is this even English?
What the fuck?
>>141332363
Any idea of why do they color them this way?
I get the color pencil things when they're just a few lines, but these kind of quick coloring doesn't seem to be of any utility, I might be wrong though
>>141348983
He rotoscoped some cels.
And given that they are pornographic in nature, might post them on /h/ one day.
>>141348301
I hope you do post them.
Just this, I wanted to get one with GNR but they were unavailable/prohibitively expensive
>>141350041
does that face represent how you felt when you bought that cel?
>>141350978
Yeah I guess that's a pretty good way to look at it
>>141322933
>>141324196
I remembered that I'd saved all of my old auction win emails. I paid around $110 for the pair back in 2004, and that was including shipping from Japan. The first one would probably only around $200 now because the figure is relatively small, but the full face one should be at least $600.
>>141349263
No. The cells were drawn from live video kiddie porn. Rotoscoped sketched. It was from a Russian kiddie nomad rape flick in the 90s. Unfortunately the cdr I had of it got too old and couldn't copy.
Back up your cds people!
How do guys know it´s genuine article? I mean is it not easy to fake/copy it?
>>141351867
Why would you rotoscope something like that?
>>141351948
Not me! It was done by some underground russian animators back in the 90s. I don't know much about them really but it's got to be a part of animation history.
>>141352157
>bootleg rotoscoped russian child porn animation
that is probably one of the most niche things i've ever heard of
where the shit do you even buy something like that
actually i dont want to know
I have cels from JJBA OVA and The Dog of Flanders movie. I was surprised how cheap the cel was for the latter because it's a really nice close up of Pastrache.
>>141352531
Do you have the cel of Vanilla Thrice poking his head out of the hole in the ground
Do newer shows not have cels?
>>141349211
Those colors are used to indicate where the shiage/colorist/cleanup should fill in the shades and light source.
>>141318158
exactly one
>>141352881
>>141352881
I like it!
I don't know how it works, do you have both, coloured, and lined?
>>141352762
Nope. Digital animation, mate.
>>141353364
Yes, bought straight from japan.
>>141353178
I love the precision these lines were drawn, you dont see any corrections, just look at the eye lashes, each of these is unique and pure art.
>Price: US $895.00
Life is suffering
>>141353770
for the glory
>>141344717
for who
>>141352267
I got it in a trade at comic shop in 2001. He was going out of business and we were quasi friends. I remember watching the vcd that went along with it way back in the day. I really need to find a way to get that cd copied to disk.
If I ever take it to Chesapeake collectable or antiques roadshow, I'm sure it would be way more valuable together than separate.
I'm sure it's gotta be some historical thing in underground animation back in the day.
>>141355511
You're delusional
You'd be arrested if you tried to sell it
Keep this thread going until I get home and I'll show you some I feel comfortable posting.
>>141355536
No I wouldn't. It's drawn. By hand.
The fact it was sketched and crudely colored and shaded from video doesnt mean anything.
Posting more hibikek layout reprints
>>141355687
In some jurisdictions, if it was "traced" then that counts as the real thing. The real bummer with this is that the law enforcement authorities have the largest collection in the world, so you may not think it's traced by they might well say it is.
>>141352587
No, I have one of D'Arby shuffling his card deck.
>>141352762
One of the last shows that did was Higurashi IIRC
Rule of thumb, the cels that have a character with their eyes open are worth more than one where their eyes are shut.
>>141357916
no fucking shit
>>141357944
There are a lot of retards in the thread.
Maybe some day. I'm still not at a stage were I feel comfortable spending mad dosh on a handful of cels or genga. When I get enough disposable income I might hunt and frame some favorites. So far just production note/concept/art work/groundwork artbooks and the figure collection.
So do you guys frame this shit?
>>141353770
I'd seriously consider buying that if I could prove it was real.
Is it possible to regather all the evangelion cells and reshoot the series?
>>141359253
in the same way its possible to collect the 7 dragonballs, I guess.
The better option would just be to write a program to chop episode files into images frame by frame, then printing those out, I guess.
>>141353364
>Digital animation
You mean digitally colored. Most of the time they still animate on papers, only then they outline, color and refine the frames using animation software.
>>141359253
>>141359451
>The better option would just be to write a program to chop episode files into images frame by frame
just use video to image converter, anon. It works most of the time.
According to RX they might start using HDR in the new BD transfers for stuff.
>>141359451
>>141359535
>video to image convert
>waifu2x every frame
>clean each frame's colors to vector quality
>string them together at 24fps and digitally regrain them
4K Eva
>>141359253
Still bummed about that flooded episode, huh?
>>141353412
This is douga, anon..
>>141359655
This is a sample of an anime OP.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B82sF7zOweNrTHUxZndKMFc1QjA
how does these things work?
>>141359935
What's wrong with douga?
>>141360032
>Surprise.rar
Seems legit.
>>141360327
I changed the title to avoid infringement, anon.It's a Digimon OP.
>>141360275
Get the fuck off /a/.
>>141360618
Can't help but think you are being a little too harsh there, cels are from a bygone age.
>all these unframed cels and dougas
Literal cancer.
>>141360327
that's cel? the colors and all looks digital as fuck
>>141361719
I hope you are just pretending to be retarded.
>>141361831
Sorry.
>>141353770
Then the blu ray remaster looked blurry as fuck compared to this picture
>>141362130
Because they used the old masters I guess, they didn't rescan the cels and all. I wonder how would look an old anime with cels rescanned with digital method. Probably a bit like the pictures posted here.
>collecting cels
>not autographs
I'd post mine but it's at home.
>its a gooks trying to sell me something thread.
Until the currency exchange rate recovers i aint buying shit.
Only one, but it's from my favorite anime.
>>141364136
From this scene.
>>141363100
what's wrong with collecting Cels
>>141363100
some of us like to collect cels for its art value, not autographs.
Are there any shows that reuse cels a shitton? Not animation, but just the cel.
>>141364136
Great taste, anon!
>>141359043
You can but sunlight can damage cels so the glass should protect against uv rays
>>141364998
Can't stand looking at people saving thumbnails
>>141363832
Was EMS raised because of the currency drop?
>>141365074
Thanks!
>>141362960
I doubt there exists a collection of all cels used from a show anywhere
>>141326735
Breh
>>141337076
Damn, she's gorgeous
Can anyone tell me why they draw it on paper and color/outline it digitally nowadays? It feels like you could have just drawn it digitally to begin with. Is it easier to organize with all the papers or something?
>>141366162
It's just easier to draw on paper and to be precise. But there are most and most people drawing digitally too. Bahi JD draws digitally.
>>141359455
Computers are also increasingly used for tweening and compositing, which accounts for much of the increase of technical quality these days. (Whether artistic quality has increased is a matter of opinion. I really love 80s character designs.)
>>141323126
fuck me nigga i've seen thepricing, how much is that one going for?
Good thread, thanks /a/
>>141366374
Of course.
