So it ended... with what?
>>141112833
It simply says Information released.
>>141112833
Nisio trolling.
>>141112999
I cannot find it anywhere
The countdown's still going.
>>141112833
it will end at 24.00 japan time
>>141112833
still 5 and a half hours to go. you have to set your device to japan time
>>141113796
This changed everything.
>>141114348
yeah, japan's countdowns are always broken because they don't accomodate for people outside of japan
>>141114360
So, what will it be. Considering Ii on the page, shouldn't we perhaps get Zaregoto?
>>141114547
i really hope so. they're advertising it as saikyou, but there is hardly enough saikyou material to even make 12 episodes.
the text also says 戯言だけどね which means "it's all just nonsense (zaregoto), isn't it", which is zaregoto series' tagline
even if we don't get zaregoto anime now though, i'm sure we'll get it someday thanks to this. SHAFT is showing interest in it
>>141114547
It'll be a Zaregotolive-actionadaptation.
>>141114593
i honestly wouldn't mind
is anyone here also watching the persona 5 countdown?
>>141114972
Yup. Two countdowns today. That music though.
>>141112833
God damn, a Shaft adaptation of the second Zaregoto book would be orgasmic. The things they could do with the reveal of the first killer
nearly 3 hours left! lets try to keep this thread up until the countdown finishes so we can actually discuss the result without making a new thread
>>141116227
Where did you find the full size art?
If there isn't any key visuals idc. We already know shaft is doing this. We need more information
>>141116325
why's that? because shaft never gets anything done on time?
>>141116325
There was a trailer right after Kizu countdown.
>>141116403
Yeah. Only 4 years late.
>>141114584
Maybe they'll do a four or five episode special
>>141116325
>We already know shaft is doing this.
That's not a given at all. Each Nisioisin anime series so far has been produced by a different studio.
>>141116403
yeah, i'm really hoping there's a zaregoto/saikyou PV right when the countdown ends, though an announcement woud be good enough for me
>>141116444
shaft is one of the keywords in the website's source code
Zaregoto's MC is like Araragi 0.5a.
Please no Akio Watanabe designs. He's great but repetitive. He was amazing early on but everything now looks like a gatari clone
>>141116761
definitely not. they'll probably try to replicate take's style
>>141116475
Oh, I see. That's a little disappointing.
>>141116802
Shaft is known to mimic the sources style. Idk if they would go as far as White Fox though.
Nisio Anime Project twitter said it is related to Saikyou stuff.
>>141116809
what's wrong with shaft?
Anime about another nisio's best girl?
>>141116918
best boy
>>141116859
Shaft will probably ruin it if they adapt Zaregoto, Saikyou and Zerosaki. These three do not need any visual allegories to be successful.
>>141116558
they are nothing alike
>>141116949
Eh, if they leave it in the hands of Oishi it'll be a decent adaptation.
>>141116930
Best boy is Araragi.
>>141116970
But Shaft can into subtleties but they are bad with into detective/logical reasoning stories. Look at Ougi Formula and Sodachi Riddle. I don't know whether Oishi can pull it or not though.
>>141117067
Nisio's detectives are horrible. But he likes to write them a lot.
>>141117067
>they are bad with into detective/logical reasoning stories.
how could they be bad with something they didn't write
>>141116859
Well, I just think Shaft's output over the last few years has been fairly weak and would've liked to see someone else take it on.
>>141116970
Oishi's busy with Kizu though. He wouldn't be doing this unless it's being released later next year.
>>141117160
kizu is done isn't it? i just assume that they're releasing it in intervals
>>141117118
adaptation screenplay =/= original writing.
adaptation can be worse than original source material.
>>141117160
> Shaft's output over the last few years
Madoka, Rebellion, Second Season.
>>141117204
>adaptation can be worse than original source material.
But that's not what that guy was talking about. He assumed Shaft was to blame for Nisio's detective stories.
>>141117205
You're forgetting the weak stuff; Mekakucity Actors, Koufuku Graffiti, Niskeoi and Sasami-san
>>141117241
that was pretty retarded.
Though I do agree some of Nisio's detective stories are decent at best. Most of them only work if you self insert as MC/narrator.
1 hour?
>>141117324
>sasami
>graffiti
>bad
>>141117356
Graffiti was boring. Okada should stick to original stuff.
>>141117354
~2 hours
Set your device to japan time.
>>141117160
Mekakucity had a few problems(the horrible CGI) that Shaft are to blame, but most of the blame falls on Jin who fucked up the screenplay and the anime turned into an awful mess. All the other adaptations they did after 2011. were good adaptations of awful source material, you just can't polish a turd so much that it magically becomes good. I like Zaregoto and still think that Shaft is the right studio for anything Nisio related.
I wonder if Kamiya is in here.
>>141117205
Yeah, like I said, weak.
>>141117487
Oh we have a troll. Carry on.
>>141117399
But Gainax made Medaka Box and it wasn't terrible at all. A-1 or I.G are my top picks for something like Zaregoto and its spinoff, provided that they hired directors that are well versed in mystery stuff.
>>141117541
>yfw zaregoto by kyoani
how would this turn out? they DID make hyouka
>>141117595
It'd be the most interesting KyoAni show ever because it wouldn't immediately look like a KyoAni show
>>141117595
It would be interesting, but I don't want the characters to look like typical Kyoani characters.
Also, Hyouka was pretty boring.
>>141116849
There's still hope right,
>>141116849
when?
>>141118236
>>141118586
>april 30th
eh whatever
>>141118586
The dream is dead
>>141118586
>>141118992
it'll be fine. i believe there'll be a zaregoto anime
>>141117392
>2 hours
40 more minutes
Something wrong with site?
>>141119355
Yup. You're not in Japan.
less than 45 minutes left!
No one cares about Zareshit
anyone still here? only a few more minutes to go
>>141120465
it's going to be nothing
>>141120507
i have those bookmarks
>>141120465
Only 17 people are here because no one cares for Nisio's worst work.
>>141120574
I care
>>141120574
i thought this thread was about zaregoto, not me and my broken world
>>141120595
that's not monogatari
>>141112833
ZAREGOTO ANIME
Is something supposed to happen?
>>141112833
FUCKIGN CONFIRMED
http://ni.siois.in/works/#zaregoto
>>141112833
here
>>141120699
Yeah, anime announced.
An actual Zaregoto anime. This is all I wanted, japan.
>>141120724
ZAREGOTO ANIME
fuck yes
>>141112833
Ok, i can already hear hanae natsuki doing Iichan
Any details?
Welp, colour me surprised. Hope it's a complete adaptation.
I was expecting to leave this tread disappointed.
I've never been so happy to be wrong.
And now let us pray that it might actually be good.
>>141118586
FUCK YOU HAHA
What studio is it?!
>>141120871
me too, man
what a great day to be alive
HAPPENING .
NOW RITSUKA AND MINUS ARC
>>141120908
shaft. we knew this since the beginning
>>141120908
in other threads said it was written SHAFT in the code
>>141120871
I made this thread in full expectation that this will be no more than a Saikyou adaptation.
But to get Zaregoto?!
>>141120905
that is legit source.
The mod just trolled the followers, nothing else.
>>141120942
I looked at it, but it really is just a bunch of keywords for search, like Shaft, Aniplex even has Owarimonogatari, Kizumonogatari in it.
>>141120905
>>141120947
They still announced a new volume kf Saikyou LN
>>141120989
that's fucking retarded since everyone knows it's gonna be out in a few days
5 days countdown for almost nothing?
>>141121014
For a zaregoto announcement. That isn't nothing you pleb.
>>141121014
AYYYY LMAO
>>141121062
Where is details?
How do they animate the unreliable narration of volume 2 without being super obvious about it?
>>141121014
Official confirmation of a Zaregoto anime isn't really "nothing", but since it was the most obvious possibility and there doesn't seem to be any info beyond "it's happening" it does seem almost anti-climatic.
>>141121092
Pretty sure Shaft has done it many times in the Gatari series.
>>141121077
there aren't any yet, but an announcement is enough to make me happy. i assume they'll follow up with details in a bit
So what is the appeal of Zaregoto? From this thread it seems like a big dea.l
FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!
>>141121132
Post examples
>>141121146
Nisio and Shaft. Read the source.
>>141121166
koimonogatari: hitagi end
>>141120854
I hope they do cast him.
Just in time, Monogatari and Madoka are ending and SHAFT doesn't have any other franchise to milk
Anime when?
>>141121166
Otorimonogatari.
FUCK ZAREGOTO MAN WHERES THE MANIWAGATARI OVA WHITEFOX??
>>141121238
>milk
>zaregoto
it's only 9 books, and a few of them are somewhat short. i guess they could make it a bit longer if they throw in ningen and saikyou though
I don't think it's gonna be Shaft. Shaft is pretty busy with kizu, owari, 3gatsu, fate and probably Madoka.
>>141121238
To adapt fully means to milk now? You kids have been robbed of a full adaption for years and now you criticize it.
>>141121278
>it's only 9 books
Did you forget the Saikyou Series?
>>141121188
I know that. What I ask is how is the story. Will be like monogatari, story-wise?
>>141121281
Who are not tied with any project as of right now, anyway?
>>141121315
i said they could throw in ningen and saikyou to make it a little longer, but zaregoto on it's own isn't so long
>>141121328
>Will be like monogatari, story-wise?
Probably not. It has some actions, murders and logical reasoning stuff. I do hope they get A-1 with Subete ga F ni Naru quality.
>>141121281
Half the staff in kizu isn't even part of SHAFT, Owari? that ended last year, 3gatsu is set for fall of this year and Fate for next year. They have many projects but none really clash with each other.
>>141121281
Kizu is probably already done and just being split up as a marketing gimmick. Owari has their own staff working on it. 3 Gatsu will probably be Shinobu doing his thing so he doesn't need to oversee the other projects. Fate is all the way in 2017 we dont even know which season it will air. Forget about madoka is over sheesh. Besides they are all backed by Aniplex so I'm not worried.
>>141121452
> Owari? that ended last year
Only 2/3.
How and where can I read this?
>>141117067
>Itamura sucks at directing a mystery where the characters just sit in a fucking room and talk about the past, so everyone at the studio can't possibly adapt a mystery work
Wow. Great logical reasoning friend.
>>141121456
>Kizu is probably already done and just being split up as a marketing gimmick.
Do you have a source on that?
so, is this a harem anime?
>>141121617
It was watered down. I don't specifically said he's bad at it. It is just not his forte, to me.
And you guys said it wasn't happening.
>>141121446
>I do hope they get A-1 with shit quality
>>141121760
Your reading comprehension baffles me.
I like Shaft, like you faggots do but this just isn't Shinbo's stuff. Maybe Tatsuwa or Oishi could pull it off but seriously not Shinbo. Itamura is still questionable to me.
Also, go and watch Perfect Insider, you faggot.
Nice. I hope we get someZerozaki Maiori
I know it's impossible but imagine if they announce KyoAni as the studio adapting it. Only thinking about the shitstorm that would ensue got me all horny and sweaty.
Hopefully this isn't just a movie, right?
>Started reading Zaregoto
Why is MC such an edgelord fag.
Literally a no fun allowed Araragi.
>>141121911
>Iori was a normal girl until she was about to get killed by one of her friends who she manages to fight off and kill instead. Before she can think about what just happened, Zerozaki Soushiki appears and tells her about her developing urges of a cutthroat murderer and that she is supposed to be his new sister, the newest member of the Zerozaki family.
This sounds way too edgy, is it the right character?
>>141122027
He is like Shichika.
>>141122042
Yes.
>>141121913
You, and me too now.I'd still love it.
I'm reading the synopsis and a few character profiles and the lore is way too convoluted. I'm not sure how they're going to make it work without heavy expository dialogues and narration. Actually one of the reasons I didn't like Bake is for the complete disregard of the show don't tell rule in visual storytelling.
> 4 anime series, 3 movies, 2 manga series, oneshots, 50-60 LN volumes
> monogatari is one of the most successful anime series of our time
> LNs sell good
Nisio
>>141122314
>and the lore is way too convoluted
welcome to every Nisio work ever.
How many of the novels are translated?
>>141122376
2 officially, and up to 5 with fan TLs.
>>141122376
the first 5, volume 6 is 1/4 translated and still going, though slowly
>>141122376
Five. Maybe the guy translating it will get some motivation from the anime announcement, but in my opinion he's not doing a great job.
>>141122314
Zaregoto means nonsense.
Yase Yuki is not a bad director and he can handle a large cast well. The character interaction in MCA was fine. It was just that the script was shit af. I want to see him redeem himself with Zaregoto. Let the young Shaft directors have a shot.
>>141112833
>Nisio once again gets SHAFT
Is /a/ ever not BTFO?
>>141112833
Studio:Gainax
>>141122314
Did you watch that show?
>>141122440
in speed he's not, but he's a great translator
>>141122467
I like the Nisio SHAFT combo, personally. I hope it starts a trend of the rest of his stuff getting complete adaptations due to not having as much monogatari left to adapt. Incomplete adaptations are the plague of the industry.
>>141122541
It sells so I'm pretty confident we'll get everything or most of nisio work animated, what a time to be alive.
>>141122541
How about SZS, anon?
New season never, the moment the radio show was kill.
>>141120854
I can't really see him as Ii-kun for some reason. That said, I don't really know who could pull it off. I can think of Oogata Megumi's job as Kumagawa to be close, but still not quite fitting.
>>141122604
It still went on longer than most series would ever see.
>>141122604
don't forget to laugh seven years from now
>>141122703
I think it's 78 days until we can laugh
>>141122532
Can't really agree with that. After finishing volume 5 in english I started reading from volume 6 in moon since my studies were starting to give fruit. After reading Vol. 6 I went back to check his translation of the prologue and wasn't really impressed by his choices. The translation was not really incorrect, but still felt off to me. It's Nisio we're talking about so maybe it can't be helped. On the other hand I think the guy translating Neko Shiro did a really good job at putting up with Nisio.
>>141122767
will there be a new season?
>>141122794
how far into your studies was that? i'm 6 months in and i can sort of read hyouka and narita
![[SFW]_Natsu_No_Arashi_-_09_[720p][E26BC08B].png](https://i.imgur.com/KK6tO0t.jpg "[SFW]_Natsu_No_Arashi_-_09_[720p][E26BC08B].png")
>>141122802
nope. No ending adaptation
I'm fucking hyped. It's also a complete series which is great
>>141122802
If so, they need to find a new seiyuu for Fujiyoshi.
>>141122872
Not that anon but if you can read Narita's, I'd say you learn pretty fast, anon.
>>141122604
How much of the manga is unadapted?
>>141123032
okay, i read narita, with a bit of trouble. spesifically center of the world hariyama san
>>141122794
Try reading the first book on japanese.
I think you'll appreciate the fantranslation a lotta more
>>141122945
what if they've had a new season locked away for a while and were waiting 7 years to release it
>>141122872
6 months of kanji and the language itself??
>>141122872
Can't really tell. It may have been around the time I took N3, but since I got a full score it it isn't a really accurate a measurement.
>>141123032 may be right, I never read Narita, but doesn't look easy. I'd say you should go for it and try if you want, you'll learn even faster like that. A lot of Nisio's works can be found in aozora bunko format, so if you have a kindle you're pretty much set.
>>141123121
yep. 6 months straight of studying every single day, starting since the end of last october
>>141123139
i own zaregoto actually, i just can't read it very well. i just wanted to see how much further to go until i was just like you
>animated by Shaft
neat
>>141123149
did you take any courses or did you learn everything by yourself? I'm also thinking of trying to learn it next year,been stalking the DJT for a week just to find some way for self teaching.
>>141123096
Guess I can try it when I'm done with the Boukyaku Tantei series books.
>>141123172
I also own it, but being able to look up stuff on the go is pretty handy.
>>141123139
I actually have read Zaregoto until Kubitsuri Highschool, half of Shoujo Fujuubun and most of Monogatari books. Narita's wording is pretty similar to Nisio's. The only difference is Nisio likes to insert pun and his unreliable narration into his writings.
>>141123255
learned everything by myself. get the best textbooks and learning materials, get anki, get some good books, and study every day DON'T MISS A DAY
>>141123231
>animated
>>141123284
is that so? i found narita a lot easier than nisio, though still difficult, but i guess i'm on the right track
Zaregoto anime confirmed?
Who voices ( me ) ?
>>141123370
(you) do
>>141123370
I want to jam it into the blue savant.
>>141123330
oh look its this meme again.
>>141123284
Shoujo Fujuubun may be one of the books where Nisio just went and made a story that could be told in a few pages into a full book by adding random stuff, by I advise you read it through the end. i think it's really important to understand Nisio.
>>141123366
You only find t difficult to read Nisio because of the styling he chose. Try reading his earlier stuff, like Zaregoto, they are much easier to read than Monogatari and Okitegami.
>>141121664
no, he is been teaed around but only one real love interest.
and he hate her
>>141123477
I'm still reading it. Right now I'm swtching in between Wazamonogatari, Okitegami Vol 2 and SF.
So 9 volumes of the main series and then 7 of the spin off. If they're adapting the main series, is it enough for a 1 cour or 2 cour?
Isn’t there something really scary about people who knowingly, consciously, use others as stepping-stones?”
Actually, it’s the people who unknowingly—with all the best of intentions and delusions of just cause—use other people who are way more disturbing.
This is gonna be a fucking mess, Shaft can't adapt shit without making it full of stupid jokes, meta imaginery and unnecessary pop culture references. This is a mystery series and I think they are the less suitable studio to adapt it.
RIP Zaregoto
>>141123695
Would have to be 26 episodes for the first season and 12 episodes for a second to complete Zaregoto adaption.
>>141123310
thanks anon, I'll try!
>>141123739
Watch more shaft before looking like a pleb.
>>141123739
What? That's only because some of what they adapt is loose enough for adding in things like that. It seems you've only watched those.
>>141123739
Denpa Onna had less meta imagery, less stupid jokes and no cultural references. It worked just fine.
>>141123739
Zaregoto is also full of pop-culture references though. I hope they do a good job with Aikawa Jun jumping from a sitting position Zeppeli-style.
Anyone own the first book in English? Or the whole series in Japanese?
The first book is fucking expensive in English.
>Entire gimmick of Zaregoto is based around unreliable narrator
>Anime adaption
How the fuck is this going to work?
>>141123963
I just bought both books.I hope I don't regret it
>>141123998
Shaft finds a way
>>141123963
i own the whole series in japanese. literally costs pocket change. you can get all 9 books for 15$
>>141123998
> How the fuck is this going to work?
Black/red frames.
>>141124046
I thought so, that exchange rate is nice. I might as well get it since I liked books 1 and 2
So this is better hakomari?
>>141124033
Or not.
Like with Mekaku City Actors
>>141124060
>Half of volume 2 is just black frames
People will be impressed.
>>141123998
I'm pretty sure that doesn't matter, it's just getting made cause it'll probably sell regardless of anything
>>141122314
I guess it's too deep for kyoanifags
>>141124060
Doubt they are going with that style. Anyways they deviated from it a lot throughout the years. Even though Kizu does have that it isn't as much as when Bake was exploring that style.
But narration is easy to do in anime in general. HxH did it well in the CA arc.
>>141124082
go ahead
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B005OOT2HE/ref=olp_f_primeEligible?ie=UTF8&f_primeEligible=true&qid=1462467792&sr=8-2
>>141124094
We all know that wasnt even a passion project. It was a quick cash grab while they were animating Hana and Nisekoi. Besides MCA's fault was its script not direction.
>>141124094
I blame Jin mostly, the CG shit though was unfogivable
>>141123998
They might be able to do it. The novel did it by having a seemingly coherent flow of events. That is perfectly achievable with animation cuts. It probably won't come out as well, since anime being a visual medium means they have to actually show what's going on, instead of just Ii-kun narrating, but it's doable.
>>141124176
Even that wasn't shaft. Yes its their fault due to management but that cg was outsourced.
inb4 Umineko tier adaptation full of logic errors.
>>141124113
I'm genuinely excited to see how the fuck are they going to animate that, and I think the reveal will be glorious
>>141124176
It was just a badly managed attempted cash grab project off a big rabid fanbase is what happened. Turns out it's mostly preteen fanbase didn't really follow it to animated form.
>>141124203
oh. Then Shaft is partly forgiven
I don't even remember volume 1 that well. Who was killed?
>>141124183
In vol2 for example, it will be way too obvious if they have to hide the important parts with cuts, black frames or however they choose to do it. It works in written form because the information is so limited anyway so the viewer doesn't question it.
>>141124270
that artist bitch
>>141124297
Right, right, now I remember. The beheadings, of course.
>>141123963
I bought vol 2 to read it but skipped 1 since it was fucking expensive.
How many episodes do you guys think this needs for a full adaption? I think 3 cours would do the job. If they want to go 12, 12, 12 or 24 + 12 I'd be happy.
>>141121882
A-1 Pictures is fucking terrible
They are only good for their production values
>>141124292
I actually don't think it's too hard to do. At least it shouldn't be difficult to fool nonreaders.
>>141121882
Shinbou can do great things considering that everyone at Shaft just mimics his style to a certain degree.
Who will voice Aikawa Jun? This is an important matter.
>>141112833
is that the same artist as for Katanagatari?
>>141124432
Even those are massively overrated and hit or miss
>>141124487
If its true to be Shaft then expect their normal pool of VAs.
>>141124454
Shall we get a fake spoiler list going? Mix in a few real ones, why not.
>>141124487
Chiwa Saito.
>>141124487
It'll be either Chiwa Saito or Maaya Sakamoto just because that's the convenient easy and popular choice for continuity in things that brought in money and commentary from Monogatari
>>141124491
Yeah, it's Take all right.
>>141124537
>>141124556
I'd rather have Sawashiro.
Marches comes like a Lion - Team Shinbo
Kizumonogatari - Team Oishi
rest of Monogatari - Team Itamura
Fate - Team Tatsuwa
Zaregoto - Team Yuki Yase
>>141124094
It was so obvious that they weren't even trying with Mekakushitty
It wasn't just bad, it was lazy. Watching it, it was clear to me that nobody on staff was devoted to the project at all, save for Jin, who is just an idiot.
>>141124606
Sawashiro is great but in this case Chiwa Saito would be a better fit, damn when I read Zaregoto I imagined Aikawa's voice as Chiwa
>>141124626
>Fate - Team Tatsuwa
NO! He is good with comedy but I dont want to see Fate go that route. Rather have Yukihiro Miyamoto.
>>141124731
Fate is a big comedy.
