I feel like one thing I don't see people mention a lot is how close the Westerland Massacre in Legend of the Galactic Heroes is to the 9/11 attack. Specifically the conspiracies surrounding it.
It's so uncanny that morons watching the remake will probably assume it's a very on the nose reference to 9/11.
it's pretty much every massacre ever
>>141108545
Just the, "We let a terrorist attack happen so we could justify going to war." It's pretty on point.
>>141108545
I guess the Westerland attack was important since civilians died and planet nukes are forbidden everywhere. Though you also have battles where 20 million die so I didn't really see the outrage.
>>141108695
Everyone that dies in battle knew what they were getting themselves into. At least until the draft got fucking ridiculous.
>>141108695
The moralities of war are iffy at best, yeah. But soldiers go into battle knowing they might die.
Civilians don't wake up in the morning thinking they might be bombed, they aren't supposed to. Soldiers volunteer to make sure that doesn't happen.It's why the refugee situation is so fucked. Governments are risking the lives of their own civilians for the sake of another country.
>>141109143It isn't that they're risking the safety of their own civilians for the sake of the refugees. It's that they're risking the safety of their own civilians for the sake of political brownie points. The refugees don't actually matter. It's all just an excuse to further the careers of liberal politicians.
>>141109262
Which is just as bad if not worse.
If people like Merkel and Trudeau can hold power, isn't that a flaw in democracy?
>>141109262
>political brownie points. The refugees don't actually matter. It's all just an excuse to further the careers of liberal politicians.Unsustainable fertility rate, the average person getting older and older, pensions, less people contributing and more old farts leeching etc.
>>141109335
Faded bronze idol, responsibility for giving up the reins of power lies on the people and not the dictator, Reinhard is exceptional but the political system could just as easily empower Rudolf etc.How odd that I'm defending Yang when I'd sieg Kaiser Reinhard all day erryday
>>141109662Any man would subjugate himself to a perfect dictator if they existed.
>>141109751Not Yang. Or Schenkopp. Or a good many in the Iserlohn Republic.
>>141109143
Braunswieg probably thought it was okay since he supported the Goldenbaum dynasty. Under them people were purged all the time and the public silently accepted and went along with it
>>141109751
You can't really pin everything on one person and hope for the best. a dictator may bring about great change but further down the line who is responsible any declines and stagnation?
>>141109751
Yang was a historian. He knows what happens when a dictator takes power. No matter how good he is, no dictatorship outlives the man who created it.
It makes a lot of scenes where Yang talks about war and why to fight it more poignant than anything else in the series. He KNOWS this has all happened before. He KNOWS it's a pointless exercise. He KNOWS democracies are always failed by their citizens.It's too bad the whole series was written by someone who was a die-hard believer in Great Man Theory. It's funny as hell because Yang is actually the very definition of the right man in the wrong place at the wrong time.
>>141109662
>the political system could just as easily empower Rudolf etc.
Rudolf was elected in a democracy, and people willingly let him become a dictator. Democracy still can empower the corrupt, though arguably not as easily.
>>141109950
>It's too bad the whole series was written by someone who was a die-hard believer in Great Man Theory.
I give it a pass because it's fiction and the series is more entertaining because of it, but this is still one of the biggest drawbacks of the series for me. Amidst all it's really intelligent political and historical commentary, the Great Man Theory just gets in the way.
>>141110150
>the Great Man Theory just gets in the way.
It's not like there isn't some partial truth to it.
>>141110190
The only truth about Great Man Theory is that the only people history remembers are /made/ Great Men by definition.
You could have been, personally, the most pathetic human being on the planet and still be considered a god among men because you were in charge when something happened (see JFK)
>>141110269
If the theories that Jesus actively denied that he was a Messiah are true, he can be a great example of this. He was somebody who blasphemed against the Roman Empire, tried to help the poor, and was executed. Certainly not a pathetic person, but his legacy has been completely altered to the point where he's the son of a diety and a figure to be worshipped.
>>141110269
Say what you will about any of the shmucks in history except for my boy Genghis. Nobody can touch the Genghis.
If the Great Man Theory was true, Wahlen would be the most important character in LoGH. Great men don't make history, history makes great men.
>>141109336
Those refugees can't even handle their own country's problems, what makes you think they will be productive? What was the crime rate percentage among refugees? Oh yeah, pretty much nigger level.
You may as well be saying the Terrarists are good people and it's okay to let them in the FPA and Empire.
>>141109950
>no dictatorship outlives the man who created it.
Except all those dynasties that did? Do you even know what a kingdom or an empire even is?
>>141110269
But most people don't care about JFK. Only burgerclaps do. People only know him as the guy who got shot.
>>141111410
If Reinhard died with no heir, the Empire wouldn't have just turned into a democracy.
>>141110771
Wahlen doesn't do much. Guy can live to 200 and still not accomplish 1/3rd as much as Kircheis.
>>141111455
Yeah, someone else would have taken the throne and a new empire begins. What's your point? And the entire system to begin with is to have an heir.
You're basically denying history because of semantics, and further more LOGH is full of retards that allow people like Andrew Fork to climb up the ladder so it doesn't matter what you do everything still goes to shit sooner or later.
>>141111410
Reinhard himself says the Empire was the worst form of government to have ever existed, enabling an unbroken series of incompetent madmen to rule because they were born to.
An empire existing after the ruler that created it is a testament to the power of bureaucracy to maintain continuity of government despite massive power vacuums at the top.
>>141111568
>Reinhard himself says
No one gives a fuck about what Reinhard says.
>An empire existing after the ruler that created it is a testament to the power of bureaucracy
Yes because clearly every single successor in incompetent and relied on bureaucrats to carry the country, said bureaucrats never did anything during the creator's rule and always do far more once he dies til the end of their lives and even with their successors. Thanks for admitting you don't actually study history and only mouth off what a fucking anime about space nazis and freedumb fighters ramble on about.
Dictatorship obviously has flaws, but that doesn't say much when democracy does as well. Using LOGH as a reference to support your statements about this is worse than Bakuman being cited as a credible source of information regarding manga, at least the latter is actually done by people who know what they are talking about. Tanaka is just a one trick pony that writes about the same retarded people warring over the main cast's emotional instability while in the shadows lurks a bunch of black robed wizards that can only cast level 1 spells. Oh except Tytania I guess, that's so shit the guy doesn't even need his black robed wizards to make it the shittiest work he made.
>>141111817
>didn't actually study history
>what is the entire history of China
>what is the entire reason france didn't implode despite having an absurd number of revolutions in a 15 year period
>what is the reason the Magna Carta was even written in the first place
>how come the entirety of Western Europe didn't collapse into barbarism after the rulers turned into inbred freaks of nature
Come on man. No "supreme executive" got where he was without delegating, and those delegates were the ones who ultimately ran the country. The long term success or failure of any form of government ultimately depends on the ability of the bureaucrats to administrate it.
>>141111954
>what is the history of China
>literally 400 years of Han Dynasty
>half of the emperors produced something new and achieved something before being corrupted far further down the line
>implying 400 years before total collapse back then was bad
Only the Roman Empire one ups that.
>No "supreme executive" got where he was without delegating, and those delegates were the ones who ultimately ran the country. The long term success or failure of any form of government ultimately depends on the ability of the bureaucrats to administrate it.
What does that matter? He's still the fucking emperor you retard. Are you saying just because an emperor or a king relies on his people that it's no longer a dictatorship? Is this literally what you are trying to say? By your logic then if a guy doesn't have his hands in everything and makes every decision for everyone including when someone is allowed to poo in the loo it's not dictatorship.
You're backpedaling so hard it's pathetic. You're basically saying so long as someone rules properly and efficiently it's democracy despite the guy at the top having total authority to override any decisions the guys he delegates makes.
>>141108695
It's because of the near extinction event of WW3 during the ancient days of 2030 when humanity nuked itself to oblivion. Afterwards it became taboo to nuke planets.
