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ITT: The exact moment when a series became absolutely irredeemable
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I couldn't help but notice you posted the wrong picture, here, let me help you fix that.
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>>140975273
Even though 99% of /a/ thinks it's shit, KHR will always hold a special place in my heart. I was a hardcore fan of KHR back when the manga was on-going and the anime was on-going as well, followed it religiously.
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>>140975273
That's not Earth arc though.
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>>140975155
>killed fucking deader than dead by Ulquiorra.
>revives as something stronger than Ulquiorra because muh MC plot armor
>proceeds to beat the living fuck out of a guy he couldn't even scratch not a minute before.

Yes, that was when the series went from "meh" to fucking absolute shit.
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Bleach's entire story is maintained by asspulls.
And you people act like it's something new.
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>>140975389
no no
you don't understand
all this time whenever he was in trouble his anger helped him
not his sword or magic spirit powers no
his anger is always there for him
it's pottery
if life gets tough or you're losing the fight just go madder
it's like berserk
it's a masterpiece
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>>140975486
No, when he got killed his Quincy powers were nearly depleted. They couldn't keep his hollow powers repressed and we got a taste of their true power.
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>>140975697
no it's symbolism
symbolism yes
his other powers weren't able to save him no
but his anger (hollow) did yes
yes that is the nature of man
anger yes
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ITT Speed Reader Tears
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>>140975697
>trying to explain away ass pull by pointing out even bigger ass pull
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>>140975486
Wow, it's as deep as Gon-san.
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>>140975838
yes exactly
it's the same anger
anger is the solution yes
makes you strong
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>>140975155
FGT is one of the best designed transformation.
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>>140975838
another gigantic ass pull
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>>140975824
>Implying the Ichigo being a Quincy thing isn't the most well foreshadowed thing in Bleach.

Seriously though everything else pretty much is randomly put together when compared to that.
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>>140975927
but the ass pull is nanika not gon-san
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>>140975389
It was the blatant Sensui v Yusuke parallels specifically that did it for me
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>>140976062
it was reverse foreshadowed after kubo came up with the idea
kubo planned to end it when ichigo kills aizen a long time ago
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>>140976130
I miss Sensui he was a fun antagonist.
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first appearance of schierke in berserk, I can't be bothered to actually find when that cunt shows up but that was the commencement of shiny happy-go-lucky nu-berserk
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>>140975838
>>140975876
Gon's anger wasn't portrayed in a positive light. It was the opposite to the optimism of Meruem's character arc. Try paying a little more attention next time.

>>140975927
it was well established that nen can be multiplicative when conditions are put forth.
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>>140976577
he would have died without the anger yes
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>>140976512
This pretty much, the series started getting worse after Golden Age but that's really when it jumped the shark.
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>>140975134
>Bleach was good before chapter 6721, though, I PROMISE!!
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Any "moment" from Akame ga Kill. Seriously, pick one.
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>>140976577
It's easy to be optimistic when you're the genius king that does what he pleases.
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>>140976631
this is pretty spot on
and now that I think about it I feel kind of depressed
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>>140976712

I pick this "moment." It proves you wrong, since this was one of the best scenes in the entire series. Fuck you. Mine is girl of the century.
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>>140976774
you can't love the dead anon
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>>140976774
>the only good thing about the manga was betting who would die next with /a/
>introduce a character whose power is being immortal
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>>140976601
Wasn't he trying to kill himself? You're pretty retarded anon
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>>140976897
pitou would've murdered him if he didn't anger
he didn't try to kill himself no
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>>140976813
Coma homie
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>>140976944
He wasn't even angry in that scene, he was sad and desperate
And yes he was trying to kill himself, he literally says it
Nice shitpost though
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>>140976062
Anon, Kubo likely rereads his own shit.
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>>140977031
he says he doesn't care what happens not that he tried to die no
he was very angery he said it's her fautl yes
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>>140975134
Azami shows up in Shokugeki No Souma. No gonna bother posting the image since I deleted everything related to the manga in my HDD.
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>>140977076
He says he doesn't care if it's the end, he feels "a bit" redeemed after losing his arm and that he should have been the one to die
He also says that it's his fault as much as hers
Unless you're baiting for (You)s you must have severe retardation
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>>140976601
>he would have died without the anger yes
You mean he would have died if Killua didn't save him? His intention was to kill himself.
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>>140977224
>>140977237
If he didn't transform Killua wouldn't have anything to save, the only way he was getting out of that mansion alive was by transforming. Pitou isn't big on mercy. He was reckless as he always is by transforming was the best decision for his survival.
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>>140976774
How can someone be so pink
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>>140975134
The build up of his hollow bullshit was the one plotline that made it worth reading. It was always bad, but that's not the worst
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The series was already in decline ever since the time skip, but the Pain invasion arc looked to turn things around somewhat and actually shake things up for the first time since the Chuunin Exam arc.

And then this shit happened.
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>>140975155
could he beat Ywhach?
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>>140977536
I'll actually second this.
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>>140977536
agree
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>>140977536
What am I looking at?
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>>140975134
Sword Art online. They get out of the game and it should end there. Then it becomes really boring, i didnt even finished it.
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>>140977536

The "Itachi was a good guy all along" asspull before that was just as bad.
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>>140975366
Youre right, because that was the best part of the series
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>>140977536
If this series ended after Naruto beat pain and Kishi would do another time skip that would make the series much more interesting.
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>>140977850
Pain decided to singlehanded use his unrivalled (at the time) powers to invade Konoha. He completely flattened the village and killed several characters in the invasion, raising the stakes to be higher than they ever were in Naruto.

Naruto comes back and is a match for a Pain, but at this point, he's already killed several characters, including important characters like Kakashi. Naruto talks him into believing in good again while Pain is dying and he brings back everyone he killed.
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>>140975134
That was still bearable. Should be the momenet where aizen solo all the captains in fkt instead.
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>>140977981
ayy lmao
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>>140975134
OP I agree so much. I read it until Aizen had a back of his neck shield then dropped it
Did brown underboob die by that point though? And then again, all of those motherfuckers stabbing the shit out of the little girl thinking she was Aizen was kek worthy
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>>140975134
the hole in the chest symbolizes the loss of the heart yes
remember heart kubo very important yes
its' symbolims
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>>140975134
when dosu died in naruto
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>>140977981
>Naruto talks him into believing in good again while Pain is dying

Pain wasn't dying. He was ready to take it to the death until he got Talk no Jutsu'd, after which he decided to revive everyone, which subsequently killed him.
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>>140978210
That's even worse
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>>140977981
>Kakashit died without fighting all 6 paths
>Gets based powerup that ends up being temporary
>Loses his sharingan making him weaker than he was before the war
>Becomes hokage anyway

There was a lot of garbage in nardo, but this never sat well with me
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>>140975134
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>140978243
Indeed, which is what makes that moment the one which made Naruto irredeemably bad. Evey chapter after that was an exercise in reaching new lows. Especially once the War arc began, and DOUBLY so once the Ten Tails shows up. Madara's Wild Ride was the only thing going for the manga, and LOOK HOW THAT ENDED.
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>>140975134
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>>140976154
>kubo planned to end it when ichigo kills aizen a long time ago
bullshit...i doubt he even ever thought of an edning
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>>140978342
How would the Itachi plot line have been resolved then, though? I mean, I guess Sauce could have passed his will down onto Nardo or something.

Shit, actually, that would have been a very interesting direction.
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>>140976639
Bleach was good before Orihime got kidnapped
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The moment Ami lost i couldn't bring myself to keep watching toradora. So i jumped straight at the final chapter and finished it as fast as i could.
The nauseating feeling is still deeply engraved in my heart
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>>140976075
While this is true. lets not start another hxh asspull thread derail.
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>>140977104
This a thousand times. What the fuck is even going on in this series anymore?
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>>140978444
>Sasuke pleads with Naruto to avenge his clan for him with his dying breath
>Naruto promises he'll find and defeat Itachi
>Most of the Chuunin exam events go as usual with the exception of Oro turning his gaze towards Nardo instead of Sauce
>Itachi shows up and utterly destroys Naruto
>Oro entices Naruto with promises of power to defeat Itachi
>Naruto succumbs, cue Rescue Nardo arc, goes mostly the same
>Naruto is mental for a bit and ends up fighting his teammates until sense is knocked back into him
>Oro tries to take him by force, Part 1 ends in Oro vs Naruto

Yeah, I could dig it.
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>>140978329
Biggest betrayal ever
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>>140978623
>>140978961
Fucking this. The manga is now the biggest pile of shit i'm reading. Just axe it already like Beelzebub or KHR.
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>>140979341
>This buttblasted
Wew
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>>140979341
Woah there anon. I'm confused about the direction of the series after Azami showed up but I don't think it's at axing point yet.
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>>140979341
why is it bad?
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>>140975876
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>>140978157
Shut up already Khan.
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>>140979844
i won't shut up no
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>>140979486
>>140979698
>>140979735
Azami turned the manga into shit. Let's forget his retarded chuni character (doing Katana training in a cooking school) and his plans, like to force every restaurant in Japan to serve food he approves or close them down. Because of him there have been some of the worst matches in the manga.
>Souma wins against the 9th seat of the Elite Ten because of ketchup
>Let's introduce new characters who only serve the purpose of jobbing and will never be seen again
>Souma fights the 1st seat of the Elite Ten and will either job tremendously or get an asspulled victory

Not even the foodgasms are good any longer. No creativity like in the match Italian Job vs GiggaNigga, Souma vs SpiceNigga or Mehgloomy vs Maddog, just some "I'm cumming".
That Erina has been nothing more than a potato who vegetates in her room for the last 40 chapters doesn't help the manga either.
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>>140975312
The only part that was absolute shit is the end. Can't even finish a series properly.
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>>140979936
People say it had nothing to do with the new editor from WSJ but it definitely had to be related.
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Anime and manga are so fucking shitty at ending I just don't understand how they can fuck it up so badly.

So many ones that I used to read and enjoy just ended incredibly shitty.
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>>140979936
>there are people STILL mad about fucking ketchup
I bet you fags wouldn't be mad at all if they worded it as sweetened tomato paste instead.
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>>140978329
I think the series managed to redeem itself by staying with the harem ending of sorts.
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>>140978604
I'm not saying you've should've expected it but it IS called Toradora.
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>>140977744
Coudln't even beat Aizen. Ichigo would've died if Hogyoku hadn't arbitrarily decided to stop giving Aizen powerups.
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>>140979936
Do they still have that chef consult or whatever?

The thing about cooking manga is that it's hard to be more creative than actual chefs.
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>>140978604
Tank top tiger was always going to win, why would you ever delude yourself in the first place?
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>>140980842
>>140980842
More like he would have died if Urahara didn't sneak in his Plot Armor-level Kido so that Aizen was sealed away while the Hyougoku rebooted.

I still say the whole "Ichigo losing his powers, Aizen being 'defeated' and being 'sealed'." is all part of an elaborate plot by Aizen and Urahara.

Not to mention "You should be fine as long as you don't look directly at his sword!", then this happens.
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>>140975134
Then it was saved again.
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>>140979936
What the fuck does him training with his glorious million times folded japanese steel at a school where there are obviously gyms and dojos at least nearby have anything to do with him being 'retarded'.

Oh that's right, you've never been dedicated to anything in life besides shitposting.
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>>140981222
Are you really protecting the character who does this kind of shit?
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>>140978473
Rukiafag spotted
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>>140975962
I hate this bitch.
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>>140981516
>implying being a fag for best girl is a bad thing
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>>140978263

Kakashi essentially stopped improving as a warrior after his Sharingan anyway; he over-relied and it constantly sapped his chakra.

I don't find it hard to believe he'd do as well/better without it.
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>>140975927
not really.
The way he was revived was an ass pull though
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>>140978096

Brown underboob lived to become Queen of Hueco Mundo...then was subsequently captured and imprisoned by some Quincy cunts.
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>>140980681
Not really no
The harem ending was meh(better than him being with Tenmaku which made no sense)...it didn't even come close to reedeming the trainwreck that was the entire 2nd half of that manga...omfg what was the author thinking with that bullshit
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>>140981516
Not really
The series just coincidentally went to shit after that

Orihime and Ichigo went full-on emo mode and never recovered

Honestly the Bount arc was much better than anything post-SS in the manga

I remember honestly thinking that after they save Rukia they would go back to Earth and have more comfy adventures together with maybe Renji and some of the others Shinigami's joining in while keeping the focus on the principal characters and the secondary ones(such as Keigo,Mizuiro,Tatsuki etc.) with maybe some captains here and there showing up to help the gang when they're in troubles(like Byakuya or Yoruichi sometimes)

Bount Arc was the closest we got to that shit...it fucking makes me sad

Aizen ruined the series single-handedly
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>>140975134
Why would you even call that an asspull?
You would have called an asspull whatever would have happened there anyway cause Ichigo died. It was either the series ended cause MC dead or an "asspull" to ress Ichigo.
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Naruto went to shit right after Pain arc. How to go from absolutely best bossfight in manga/anime to the most dogshit
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Straight down the shitter.
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>>140982835
Mostly because it happened to be stronger than Ulq in his final form.
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>>140982752
not noticed this before now, but Ichigo did lose all charisma after that
whenever he's kinda funny lately in the latest arc, I don't even notice it or respond to it, because he's in 3 out of every 200 chapters
it's like I'm waiting for chapters with Ichigo in, but when they happen, they're at completely inconvenient moments when we're midway through a fight and Ichigo suddenly gets 8 pages of a chapter and it goes back to the fight
or at least something similar to that bullshit
I'm never excited to read this shit
I'm just excited for seeing the shitposting in Bleach threads
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>>140983180
>muh powerlevels
>proven wrong when Fraudrin got btfo by people 10 times weaker than him with team cooperation
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>>140983180
I also hate that in the latest chapter every other character admitted to being useless against the 10 commandments and now the series is Dragonball Super tier, where the only characters who are strong are the protag and maybe a new character will come in as an enemy soon and fight Meliodas, before becoming his rival, whilst everybody takes a step back
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>obvious sexualization of lolis

dropped
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>>140983452
Batman can beat Superman with prep time
not exactly a better trope anon
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>>140983417
pretty much...when kubo tries to bring back some of his old personality back it feels forced as fuck and not natural(same with orihime)

i don't even read bleach anymore...sometimes i look at the threads here but that's about it

can't believe bleach has been running since pre-9/11 though...that's insane when you stop and and think about it
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>>140977925
I feel like Sasuke's instant genocidal rage after the reveal to be FAR worse.
Because if you're now devoted to your brother the last thing you should do is to do THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SACRIFICED HIS LIFE FOR!
Not to mention the next arc Sauce is in he and Naruto decide to have their pissing contest and Sasuke went 'Yo Put Itachi's eyes in me.' because fuck.
Sauske is a complete piece of shit
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>>140983465
source?
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>>140983797
>i don't even read bleach anymore
Why do you have an opinion about it then?
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>>140983797
just after posting that, I seen the new chapter's spoilers has Ichigo and co in it
who knows how long the focus will stay on them

pre-9/11 Bleach was so fun:
Ichigo reacting to dumb stuff like people making fun of his name, before he explains that it's cool because his name is a one and a five
It's sad that it's too late to bring that back again. We're stuck with super serious Ichigo who has panels of him smiling now and then.
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>>140983948
>pre-9/11 Bleach was so fun
well it started on in the August 2001 so only like the first 5 chapters or so but i agree it should have stayed an urban punk ghostbusters SoL/comedy

also like when he explained that people thought his hair was bleached so he studied hard so people would leave him alone
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>>140975312
For me, the anime is shit. But the manga is pretty good.
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>>140983924
beg me
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>>140984159
pls
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>>140984191
post sauce to that and Ill give you sauce
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>>140984317
locon
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>>140984329
Himegoto - Juukyuusai no Seifuku
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>>140984366
thanks senpai, glad we shared this moment
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>>140984049
my mistake
circa 9/11 Bleach was so fun
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>>140984875
mfw according to my calculations the 6th chapter(which is the orihime/brother chapter) came out on September 13th that year
fuck...even bleach was sad at that moment
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>>140975312
So much good art came from this series but tuna is by far the worst shounen MC in existence. It makes sense that the mangaka only does character designs now.
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>>140976754
When does it start to go downhill?
I'm at Volume 14 of the manga, how much greatness left for me?
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>>140977104
>since I deleted everything related to the manga in my HDD.
This seems more like what someone would do after a bad breakup with a girlfriend then when they drop a series. Are you okay anon?
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>>140980181
It's fucking hilarious. IT's like they think Soma got a bottle of Heinz or something.
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>>140981221
Oh come on, it was gone long before Super became a thing.
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>>140976512
You can go fuck right off and kill yourself.
Schierke is the best thing that could happen to Guts.
I bet you'd suck Giffith's cock and gargle on his cum if he was real.
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>>140977925
The Itachi twist was obviously planned from the very beginning.
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>>140986638
It is a pretty steep drop once schierke shows up, but the quality is pretty consistent before then
There are some good bits after schierke shows up but it does get far too silly
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This moment right here.
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>>140978961
Azami arc is fine faggot. Did you really not expcet something like this from this series? Don't you remember the giga nigga arc? It would be boring if it was just Souma training and doing food battles. How are people complaining about all this juicy Erina development too?
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>>140988007
People are complaining because it blew up in popularity after the anime. Once that happens it becomes impossible to discuss things on /a/.
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>>140975312
I really enjoyed future arc with the boxes battle system. It was cool stuff, a pity they removed it.
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>>140987287
It wasn't because Itachi's actions makes no fucking sense if his goal was to make Sasuke into a savior by killing him since all it did was make things even worse
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>>140986409
>Tsuna is by far the worst shounen MC in existence.
This, seriously.
Can anyone name a worse one?
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>>140980976
Osaka was still fun. Everything after was garbage though.
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>>140975155
you're both wrong
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>>140977981
are you fucking kidding me with that bullshit

you see that's why i never liked pein. he was such a shitty excuse of a "big bad". like killing jiraya and kakashi among a bunch of others. like i swear kishi thought "oh god i gotta make pein look even more evil hmm what do i do OH SHIT I'LL JUST MAKE HIM DESTROY KONOHA YEAH"

god thats some sonic adventure-tier plot bullshit in my opinion
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>>140977536
Dont remind me.
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>>140996786
I think nagato was a good character. Hes not top tier evil, but you could relate to his character.
He was the weakest of his friends and pretty much always wanted peace, only to get his friends killed by danzou. Its a nice deux ex that he gets his power just then, bringing him to abandon his failed plan to bring peace by negotiation and go to all out war.
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>>140975273
I thought this was dope desu
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>>140997603
Yeah I like nagato and i don't mind konan. it's just... i think pein felt a bit unnecessary especially towards the events that lead up to his death
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