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Is it just me, or are there not that many series where sex is depicted?

I'm not talking about hentai. I mean actual anime TV series/OVAs/movies where the characters are depicted having sex.

Whether it's making love, rape, and/or just fucking for the sake of fucking, you don't see it happen that often.

I know it's quite common to see it depicted in seinen manga, but at the very least you'd think we'd at least see more depictions of characters in post-coitus with afterglow or something.

But we hardly ever do. Why do you guys think so?
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>>140957719
>>>/h/
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>>140957840
>Berserk
>/h/
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>>140957719
It's just you.
Expand your horizon.

>>140957927
And learn to contextualize.
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>>140958073
>learn to contextualize
>>140957719
>I'm not talking about hentai. I mean actual anime TV series/OVAs/movies where the characters are depicted having sex.
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>>140957719
Mirai Niki.

Also japanese society is generaly preety self-opressed when it comes to sex. Much more than Americans. Not all countries are as free from viewing sex as "wrong to show" as Europe
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>Is it just me

What was the point of this phrase?
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>>140957719
But sex in my manga makes me uncomfortable. Mommy said it will shrink my peepee by half
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>>140958123
You know those movies where two characters have sex but they're still not porn? Same idea
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>>140957719
You wouldn't have made this post if you just fapped.
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>>140957719
>It's another "Why is anime like this?" thread
Do you people never get tired of asking pointless questions about this kind of stuff?
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It's the fucking internet you can get what you want and your shitty fanfictions in two clicks.
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Read more manga, it's not just a seinen thing, either

People who make anime are A) disillusioned with reality and the idea of sex itself B) more concerned with wringing money out of similar folks/children

Sex sells, yes, but titillation and cockteasery is more entertaining to produce and leads to more productivity in the dojin market, where artists can get picked up to be assistants, etc in the actual manga industry
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>>140957719
my love for you...is like a truck
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>>140957719
Eh, I think it's fairly common. Don't forget the majority of anime is directed at children/teens, and feature high schoolers, or high school aged kids anyway.
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>>140959037
You'd still post about it on /tv/ rather than /hc/
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>>140959632
Yes, of course, 1AM TV shows sold at $300-500 a season are directed at kids.

Do people actually believe this shit?
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I don't know why it's so rare, but I'm glad it is.

Doujinshi artists fill that gap anyway, so everyone wins.
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>>140959875
That anime is for children? Yes, anon, adults who watch cartoons are considered manchildren, even in Japan.

It's not like the majority of anime airs at 1 AM. Most of the most popular shows in Japan are family/kid shows, and the most popular anime in the west are almost unilaterally based off teen manga. A minority of shows directed at adults don't represent anime.

On top of that, even among shows mostly watched by adults, a lot of the shows still feature high school aged children, so it'd be kind of weird to depict sex too often.
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B Gata H Kei manga
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>>140960160
>It's not like the majority of anime airs at 1 AM. Most of the most popular shows in Japan are family/kid shows, and the most popular anime in the west are almost unilaterally based off teen manga. A minority of shows directed at adults don't represent anime.
Daytime stuff is mostly irrelevant to the type of stuff /a/ talks about, so I think it's safe to assume OP wasn't talking about One Piece and Sazae-san. The late-night industry is driven by adults, not kids.
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>>140960160
>manchildren
This doesn't fucking mean anything.

>Most of the most popular shows in Japan are family/kid shows
Yes, but they're also numerically insignificant compared to late night anime. Most TV anime today is late night.

>On top of that, even among shows mostly watched by adults, a lot of the shows still feature high school aged children, so it'd be kind of weird to depict sex too often.
Jesus, how new are you? Anime puts teenagers in sexual situations on a routine basis, even characters that are or look prepubescent are treated like that.

They aren't real teenagers and children or representative of real teenagers and children.
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The real question is why? In a plot two characters having can mean in something like a definite bond between. Why would you want to force that to fulfill any of yout teenage girl wetdreams.
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>>140960318
>two characters having *sex
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It would kill off it's doujins.
I they put sex on your average everyday show for whatever reason, no one would want to sexualize it and make porn out of it, which is basically free advertising by the fans.

You don't see people making tons of doujins for that one hentai game, do you?
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>>140960393
Plus many people don't want to see a character they like have sex, or not canonically anyway. Sex also doesn't add anything unless it's some borderline ero like Shinmai Maou.

One of the things I dislike about American TV is the inordinate focus on sex, especially rape.
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>>140957719
Censorship issues? The japs seem pretty prudent when it comes to fullout sexy times.
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>>140960591
Is it normal i fap to Guts slashin' up his ennemies?
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>>140960730
There has been sex in late night anime.
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>>140957719
you don't need sex in mainstream shonen manga like BERSERK if there's an active hentai scene in Japan. Only seinenshits,western comic book writers and other edgy authors add sex in their comics
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>>140960257
>It's not like the majority of anime airs at 1 AM.
A supermajority of the new shows this season air between 10 PM and 3 AM.
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>>140960877
Get the fuck out griffith
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You mean like in the manga Horiyama where the main couple bone off screen? Happens in chapter 37.
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Kiseijuu between Shinichi and Murano.
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>>140961010
>edgy
Sex is a natural part of life, depicting it in a mature story, like in seinen and josei manga (not all of them of course), can add some depth, unless it's used for fanservice only or it's shoehorned.
But, of course, judging by your "seinenshits" this is probably 2deep4you.
By the way
>Berserk
>shonen
Is this bait?
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>>140959290
Bullshit. Tittilation and cockteasery just pisses the audience off and causes them to collectively scream "JUST FUCK ALREADY!" you dingus.
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>>140961010
>Berserk
>shonen
I pray that was a typo. If not, here's your (You).
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>>140963492
That's where doujinshi and fan art comes in.
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You'd think that after Sword Art Online's popularity that there would be more depictions of sex in TV series.
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>>140960919
Yes, but not THAT often.
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>>140960730
I doubt that there's that much censorship with late night anime. They can at least depict post-coitus or implied sex.
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>>140960393
I disagree. Canon sex would probably encourage doujins if anything.
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>>140963892
What? It's not like that was a big part of SAO, or like no popular anime has ever had sex in it before.
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>>140957719
Try NANA. MC is such a slut.
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>>140960393
>You don't see people making tons of doujins for that one hentai game, do you?
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>>140958787
How's that working out for Europe?
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>>140964118
Pretty well thanks.
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>>140964079
What I mean is that it's not often that a shonen series has depictions of sex in it, and considering how successful SAO was, you'd think that shonen series would take some cues and actually have the love interests fucking.
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>>140964198
>shonen
>SAO
Don't use words you don't understand.
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>>140964222
Oh fuck off. SAO is totally shonen.

Let's not argue about this any further because I don't want to derail the thread.
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>>140964198
SAO is not a shounen, and again, sex is not a major part of it.
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>>140964270
Shounen is a label the publishers slap on manga. It does not mean "an anime fit for/targeted at/consumed by male minors". LNs and LN adaptations cannot be shounen.
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Blame purityfag otaku
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>>140964180
Ahmed pls
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>>140964270
>SAO is totally shonen
Hello summer friend.
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>>140964283
>sex is not a major part of it
Two years worth of semen would like to have a word with you.
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>>140964350
This. Japanese Otaku deserve to be sent to concentration camps.
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>>140964222
What is SAO then? besides shit
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>>140964442
Wasn't that a terrible fanfiction, redundant as that may be?
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>>140964398
Views on sex have nothing to do with immigration, unless you really believe the refugees are coming here to fuck our women, thus making us cucks.
That being said, if we're talking about media, it's kind of hard to say Americans' view on sex are less open than Europeans', given how often it appears in movies and TV series, to say nothing of sex scandals, leaked porn tapes etc. Anyway this is off-topic so I'm gonna stop here.
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>>140957719
It may be an issue of legality sometimes, or tv channels not wanting to give timeslots to anime with such content. There's also the issue of otaku and their weird insecurity.
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>>140964520
Nope. Reki Kawahara ACTUALLY wrote that.
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>>140964442
>unpublished doujin chapter
>major part
Are you retarded?
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>>140963492
you're not familiar with the femdom world are you?
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>>140964442
>>140964520
That was written by the author in an extra chapter of the (late) web novels, before he got a contract with the publisher. It's still implied that sex happened in both the anime and the LN, but that scene was removed altogether.
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>>140964515
An LN.
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>>140964535
Refugees are coming to your countries to chop off your heads. Their view on sex is pic related.
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>>140964493
Then go watch Doraemon or something.
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>>140957719

Sex is treated as the goal in most romance/porn games in Japanese society.

Can you blame it's absence when an entire culture glorifies it as some reward for your troubles and hardship rather than an intimate event between two people?
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No one mention School Days?
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>>140964578
Certainly that is just a bad translation? Certainly Japan isn't publishing a guy writing fiction level shit, right?
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>>140964718
See >>140964639
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>>140964718
What the fuck do you think web novels are? They're people with usually zero training or ability writing shitty stories and hoping they get picked up for an LN.
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>>140964718
>Certainly Japan isn't publishing a guy writing fiction level shit, right?
You just answered your own question.
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Yosuga no Sora not only had sex, but incest depicted on Japanese TV.
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>>140964655
Actually according to documents from the Muslim Brotherhood once found in the Library of Congress (now since removed because I don't know) apparently the plan was to be inviting and friendly after the gays did their thing while simultaneously stealing and impregnating all the white women.
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>Open talk about casual sex
>MC gets laiid has a sex crazed dad
>Best girl wins

Garo is probably one of the best recent examples.
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>>140964718
How is this so unbelievable? 50 Shades of Grey, Twilight, tons of fanfiction-tier (or in 50 Shades' case, actual fanfiction) stuff gets published.

Light novels in general aren't exactly intelligent reading.
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>>140958787
>Also japanese society is generaly preety self-opressed when it comes to sex.

No they're not. Watch live actions and you'll see nothing different from other countries.

OP is wrong because he thinks anime is THE thing in Japan that shows everyone's tastes but Otaku are considered trash(and they are), and anime is mainly Otaku pandering.

Of course you won't show sex to retards that are all about
>muh purity
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>>140964712
The captcha made me select boats
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>>140964764
>>140965058
I know guys
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>>140965090
>Otaku are considered trash
This is outdated.

>(and they are)
Then go watch daytime anime.

>anime is mainly Otaku pandering
Otaku pandering does not exist.

>Of course you won't show sex to retards that are all about
>muh purity
Someone's never heard of doujinshi and fan art.
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>>140957719

Even Shakespeare didn't use sex in every play.
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Danna ga Nani wo Itteiru ka Wakaranai Ken is pretty hardcore because it doesn't just have sex, it has LOTS of sex.
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>>140965192
>This is outdated.
No it's not retard.

>Then go watch daytime anime.
I can watch whatever I want.

>Otaku pandering does not exist.
I'm sure Idolshit and the 40421 battle harem want a word with you.

>Someone's never heard of doujinshi and fan art.
Those are not canon, canon sex happening makes Otaku rage because muh waifu is not pure anymore.

Main heroine having a boyfriend before MC causes chaos between Otaku.
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>>140965192
>>anime is mainly Otaku pandering
>Otaku pandering does not exist.

You could disagree that most anime is Otaku pandering, but denying that such a thing exists altogether is idiotic.
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>>140965592
>canon sex happening makes Otaku rage because muh waifu is not pure anymore
I just want to say that it depends on the series. Not all otakus are retarded purityfags.
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>>140960393
If ever I was a manga creator I'd count any reasonable doujin as in-canon.
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maybe because sex scenes are pointless and dont add anything to a story
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>>140965592
>No it's not retard.
Attitudes towards otaku have become a lot less negative since the 90s, otaku have increased in number and otaku culture has become more popular (e.g. Hello Kitty and Monogatari have collaborated, Love Live has been used to advertise businesses and products and tourism and Oreimo has been used to promote voter participation).

>I can watch whatever I want.
Well clearly you don't like watching most anime.

>I'm sure Idolshit and the 40421 battle harem want a word with you.
How are they pandering? What proof do you have?

>>140965624
It has NEVER been proven to exist.
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>>140965663
Of course it doesn't happen in EVERY series anon, I never said that.

I just said that you won't find it in anime because most series are otaku pandering or kids shows. In Josei manga is quite normal for both male and female protagonist to have sex with someone else before being together, but those never get adapted. In seinen manga is not that common but it still happens, that rarely gets adapted, I mean parasyte is probably the most notorious example in recent years but that's about it.

Even then my post was about how it's only in anime, because if you watch tv series(Live action) you'll see characters having sex just like you see in western tv shows.
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White album had pretty rad sex scene
Parasyte had it also
Basically it's because 90% percent anime is high school setting and you can't just make children fucking for no reason
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>>140965918
>How are they pandering?

not him but are you medically diagnosably retarded?
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>>140965941
The high school setting has nothing to do with it. There's loads of ecchi and romance in anime set in high school.

>children
They're fucking anime characters.
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>>140965037

Gundam IBO also had two of the members went to get their cherries popped or get some stress outta the system since he left Mars. if it was late night Shino would be smoking a cig after fucking a hooker while laughing at how Eugene couldn't get his load off and Eugene firing back saying how he said he is doing this for Danji.
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>>140965988
Countless people have fallen over themselves to insist that anime is full of pandering yet nobody has ever proven it exists in any capacity. Unless you have evidence you can just fuck right off.
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>>140965952
Also in Shinsekai Yori there were 12 fucking years old almost having sex
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>>140965941
Yeah I know you were talking about anime.
It can also happen in shonen manga, though the only example I have is Aku No Hana. I guess there is much more freedom of expression in the manga scene, given how the audience is usually broader than that of anime.
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>>140966038

I'm too lazy to find you actual interviews so you can just go and dismiss me for that, but there are people that work in the anime industry saying they would like to make a variety of stuff but are stuck with moe because that's what the beancounters think will get otaku to spend the most money
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Sex isn't really necessary a lot of times. Does it add anything to the story beyond potential drama? No? Then leave it out.

That isn't to say it doesn't exist. More offbeat things like Bonnouji give pretty realistic representations of sex between loving partners. Please Teacher for all its flaws depicted teen sex with surprising sensitivity. And then you have stuff like Berserk and Blade of the Immortal, which seem to involve constant rape followed by immediate murder. But you never said sex doesn't exist - merely that it is rare. But I think its rare because it doesn't need to be shoehorned in to every story, despite what 3DPD would have you believe.

Oddly enough, entry level Toonami shit is likely to depict sex in some manner. See Eva and Samurai Champloo.

Whatever you do, anon, just be sure to walk her home gently.
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>>140966295
Otaku and creators are not different people in Japan. That is, there are otaku who work as animators, manga artists, light novel authors, game designers, illustrators and character designers and so on.

There also already IS a variety of stuff in anime.
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It gets on my nerves a shit load. I just have to remind myself, however:

>They market to and are products of their own culture.
>Adults are not the target for most anime (at least today anyway).
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>>140957719

I know right? And how come movies never have pornography on them? I'm not talking about pornographic movies, I'm talking about normal movies. Why is it that we never see any cumshots, facials, and double penetrations in normal movies? Why do you think it is retard?
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>>140966434
Most anime today is late night anime.
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>>140966475

This. They don't broadcast anything but static for 22 hours a day, and then at 3 am the anime starts.
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Probably some cuck laws in Nihon that prevent certain levels of explicit content. Gotta protect the kiddies.
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>>140966532
What?
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>>140966537
There is TV anime with sex so there can't be a law against it.
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A lot of anime is about teenagers. Teenagers, especially Japanese teenagers, don't have very much sex. The average reported age of losing one's virginity in Japan is 19 or 20.
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>>140966653
Laws are meant to be broken
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>>140966672
Anime is not real life.

>>140966686
Ok, you just keep pretending that there's a law against it. Don't let facts get in the way.
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>>140957927
>>140958123
Epic reaction images.
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>>140966752

He's talking about the law that changes how they're rated depending on the content, thus forcing them to broadcast it in a different timeslot, which is related to the amount of attention they get. How fucking autistic are you to not get this nuance? Dumbass.
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>>140966752
>Anime is not real life.
But it's based on it.
There are spaceships in outlaw star with grappling arms because it's cool. There's nothing cool about two cartoons having sex if you can't show any of the good parts.
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>>140966752
>Ok, you just keep pretending that there's a law against it. Don't let facts get in the way
That was a joke, I thought it was obvious
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>>140966846
What the hell are you talking about?
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>>140966861
Do you think the ecchi escapades in anime are reflective of real life in Japan? If not, what makes you think that the absence of sex is reflective of real life? Real Japanese people have sex a lot more than anime characters anyway.
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>>140957719
There are quite a few
Just pick ones that aren't about high schoolers
I find romantic dramas with the university aged crowd as the main characters to have a nice amount of at least implied sex
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>>140966983
Real Japanese people take a dump a lot more than anime characters too.
If you want to get to the bottom of this, explore the question of why they would want to depict sex in the first place.
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>>140957719
Watch more show and read more manga
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>>140966983

>Real Japanese people have sex a lot more than anime characters anyway

I know right, that's why their population will shrunk 30% in the next 40 years, because they're having lots of sex and orgies and shit.
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>>140967112
Sex doesn't automatically equal more kids in a country that actually teaches sex ed, anon
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>>140966372
>But I think its rare because it doesn't need to be shoehorned in to every story, despite what 3DPD would have you believe.
They usually cut before they get to the actual foreplay or when the clothes come off. It's usually really rough French kissing and knocking objects over and then cut to the guy and the girl post-coitus.

Couples walking home gently? Happens in the start of every young love story while they're having a Tarantino-esque conversation.
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>>140967112
Holy fucking shit.

I did not say that Japanese people are fucking like rabbits or that they have no issues with their birth rates, I said they have more sex than anime characters do. What is wrong with you?
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>>140967054
Sex, even if it's only implied, can make sense in a lot of stories, which usually don't get an adaptation. You may as well ask why fiction exists in the first place.
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>>140957719
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>>140967243

>Japanese people eat more than anime characters
>Japanese people starve more than anime characters
>Japanese people sleep more than anime characters
>Japanese people spend more time awake than anime characters
>Japanese people die more than anime characters
>Japanese people live longer than anime characters
>Japanese people existences span longer than 276 minutes

Retard.
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>>140967374
What the hell is your point?
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>>140967248
I think this is just going to be a subjective guruguru kind of conversation, because I really don't see this lack of sex in anime compared to similar media. Live-action works may feature it more often because it's cheap and easy to stick the actors in bed with no clothing on.
I've read plenty of works where sex was only implied, no more or less than any other biological function that allows the characters to exist. It's not abnormal.
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>>140967400

Exactly, you don't have a point.
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>>140967464
I was asking what YOUR point is you dumbfuck.
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>>140967543

Ara ara, Retard-kun can't even into think.
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Sex isn't needed or appropriate in 90% of anime series.
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>>140967589
Ok, so you have no point and just came here to shitpost. Cool.
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>most animes are set in highschool
>purefags everywhere
What did you expect? People rage even when VAs get laid.
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>>140967863
>most animes are set in highschool
So what? Why do people keep bringing this up?

>People rage even when VAs get laid.
That has nothing to do with this and it doesn't even apply to all VAs.
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>>140967863
Anime high school, where either everyone, including the innocent moeblob and the fat loser otaku, gets laid or nobody gets laid.
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>>140967922
Because it means character's ages range from 15-17 years old. It's not uncommon for them to be virgins and finding their first gfs. If most animes were set in college or work, it'd be harder to justify everyone being pure.
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>>140968085
>and finding their first gfs
Which can then conceivably result in sex. A story could also be maximum edge and show everyone having casual sex.
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>>140967863
>People rage even when VAs get laid.
Not unless they're idol VAs.
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>>140967922
>So what? Why do people keep bringing this up?
Because teenagers don't have as much sex as adults. All other things held equal, a show about 20-somethings is going to have more sex than a show about teenagers.
A television show set in the 1600s is going to have fewer automobiles than a show set in the 2000s. It's all fiction, but that doesn't mean you arbitrarily ignore the reality of the setting you're basing the story in.
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>>140968144
Could, but most usually the anime ends after the first kiss.
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>>140968144
And it does happen, quite a bit actually. A lot of those high school anime that have no sex have sex in the source material they're adapted from, the anime just doesn't get that far.
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>>140968184
Teenagers also don't get into all the ecchi situations that they constantly get into in anime.

>>140968212
I know that, but I'm not the one trying to bring real life into this.
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>>140968085
Is there an anime or manga out there where delinquents and other nerdowells, the kind you expect to not be pure, get laid?
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>>140968263
Yes.
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>>140968299
Mind if you name some?
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>>140968254
>Teenagers also don't get into all the ecchi situations that they constantly get into in anime.
They're doing a lot more of it than they are having sex. Groping breasts and looking up skirts is a lot more realistic behavior from a 16 year-old than having any kind of sex that's worth watching.
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>>140968254
It's not about bringing real life or whatever. Highschool is a good EXCUSE to have virgin characters. That's usually desirable because of the first love thing and purefags. How hard is it to understand?
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>>140968340
That kind of public pervertedness is less common than doing it in the stalls or at home.
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>>140968320
I do mind.
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>>140968340
>Groping breasts and looking up skirts is a lot more realistic behavior from a 16 year-old than having any kind of sex that's worth watching.
Hell no it's not. For 10 year olds yeah but 16 year olds are fucking, that's a fairly common age to have sex at.
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>>140968340
We're talking about realism now? In the context of anime like Mayo Chiki, OniAi and Ladies vs. Butlers? Really?

>>140968415
At what point have I argued against having virgin characters?

This thread is absolutely retarded.
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>>140962103
Horimiya, anon
it's great btw, read it
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>>140968429
Not from the audience's point of view.
Compare the number of people who actually had sex in high school with the number of people who fantasized about ecchi things.
Ecchi fantasies are more relateable than real physical intimacy among teenagers.
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>>140964083
which Nana is the slut?
the inferior non-singing one, right?
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>>140968482
And any kind of statistic would tell you otherwise. Most 16 year olds in Japan have never had sex. Most 18 year olds in Japan have never had sex.
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>>140968495
You asked why do people keep bringing "highschool" as explanation for the lack of sex, and the reason is that it is an excuse to have virgin characters. I don't care if you like virgins or not.
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>>140968429

what are these sex stalls you speak of?
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>>140968340
>sex that's worth watching

It's not really about seeing it or else it would be hentai. Sex is a very real part of the human condition that can affect relationships between characters.

You're more likely to believe two characters are "in love" or "a couple" if that intimacy is just hinted at. Depending on its portrayal, you may believe a character to be more unstable if they approach the topic too candidly.
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>>140968526
Could your high school teenage self relate to that? That shit almost never happens.

>>140968624
During class or after school.
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>>140968619
You don't need an excuse to have virgin characters, you can simply have virgin characters and don't need to explain shit.

>I don't care if you like virgins or not.
Again, where was I arguing against them?
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episodes now all contain a 4-6 minute sex sequence. are they better or worse?
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>>140968765
It depends.
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>>140968709
>Could your high school teenage self relate to that? That shit almost never happens.
My high school self could imagine feeling a breast or kissing someone sheepishly.

Substituting "oh I tripped KYAA" for twenty minutes of awkwardly fumbling with a bra upstairs at a party isn't much of a stretch. It's all a metaphor for teenagers being horny losers who bumble into intimacy.
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>>140968765
Only if it's the MC having missionary sex with best girl, for the sole purpose of procreation.
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>>140968617
I didn't say most. There are more teenagers having sex than flipping skirts.
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>>140968765
Worse, because the girls wouldn't be pure anymore.
You don't want a second-hand waifu, do you?
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>>140968973
They're 2D, they're always pure.
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>>140968839
Still, the latter is way more likely to happen than the former.
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The Tsukihime anime & manga had the sex scenes

Manga even had the rape scene
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>>140968657
>intimacy is just hinted at
Here's thing, what are you looking for? If two people are dating, they're implied to be having sex. Dating culture in Japan is a different phenomenon than in the West; if a man says 愛 to a woman and she assents, they're going to bang.

>>140968966
>>140969060
Combine those two things. Most teens don't flip skirts, but they have seen up a girl's skirt by accident. Most teens haven't passionately felt up a girl in public, but they have awkwardly fooled around in the dark, taking way too long and making dumb mistakes.
The perfect combo presents itself, made for a 25-minute time slot: rather than spend weeks thinking about a girl, talking to her, and getting up the nerve to kiss her, MC just slips on a fucking banana peel and dives face-first into her crotch.
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>>140969015
Nope.
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>>140957719
amazingly, media aimed at children doesn't tend to depict sex that much.

read some more non-shonen manga.
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>>140969486
>late night anime
>children
Yeah ok.
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>>140969514
Man-children are still children.
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>>140969537
And like fucking clockwork here comes the "manchildren" meme. Every time some idiot is told that anime mostly isn't for children he pulls out the "manchildren" card so he can pretend he's still right.
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>>140969599
It makes sense though. What deranged otaku manchildren want in anime isn't sex, it's purity.
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>>140969715
And self-insert characters.
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>>140969815
Self-insertion is a narcissistic Western obsession that's being projected onto otaku.

Who are you going to self-insert into in K-On?
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>>140969882
Mio.
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>>140969715
And that's a good thing. Keep sex where it belongs and don't slam it everywhere like you americans like to do.
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>>140966983
Honestly I wouldn't know given their birthrates
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>>140965918
If this is bait consider me taking it becuase come on you cannot be this blind. Look at this seasons line up, Hundred and Netoge both are pure pandering. You are telling me that you think that pic is not pandering. Pure BS. You don't even need interviews of Jap Otakus spazing out over pureness for their waifus because the truth is right in front of you. Almost every single anime has a girl who is a virgin and throws herself at insertable mc. Look at the Fall line-up there were literally 3 fucking 3 shows with the exact same premise, Rakudai, Asterisk and that Anti-magic one. And all the girls are somehow virgins and in love for the MC, weird right? Right now there is a clone of Infinite Stratos almost literally word for word, I mean come one there a reverse-trap stuck in the same room with NotIchika!

You can say whatever excuse you want but the reason that these shows are getting written and produced is becuase that shit sells nigga. Why risk producing an original anime when there is a dedicated fanbase who just eat the same shit over and over again.
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>>140973286
>that shit sells nigga
But every single show you mentioned did pretty poorly.

Generic harems and battle harems almost never sell well, IS was the extreme exception.
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