>Kami is God
>No wait, King Kai is the true God
>Actually, Supreme Kai is the real true God
>No, wait, Beerus is the for sure real true God
>Just kidding, Zeno is the absolute 100% for sure real true God
>Kami is God
God of Earth
>No wait, King Kai is the true God
God of the North region of the universe
>Actually, Supreme Kai is the real true God
God of the universe
>No, wait, Beerus is the for sure real true God
God of Destruction
>Just kidding, Zeno is the absolute 100% for sure real true God
God of the 12 multiverses
>>140942474
Kami is God
Kaioh is World King(North Galaxy)
Kaiohshin is World God-King
Beerus is Destruction God
Zen'oh is All-King
...there will be probably a Zen'ohshin.
Zeno is the king of the 7 Universes.
So next Dragonball will have the king of the multiple multiverses.
>>140942747
Zen'oh is king of ALL the 12 Universes
>>140942769
yeah but the 12 are just one mere multiverse. There must be a king of all these multiverse kings.
>>140942474
So what is Grand Kai in charge of?
And wasn't Supreme Kai one of four kais under a fat happy kai who was eatten by kid buu?
>>140942835
We don't actually know if there are multiple multiverses... but given it's DB, it's likely.
>>140942835
It's pretty obvious who the King of all Multiverses is.
Im fine with the expansion of powers, but I'm getting real sick of Goku's cliche shit.
>Meets someone hes told is the big shot of X universe who looks like a dork
>Doesnt take them seriously and jokes with them
>Says he wants to fight them to everyone's dismay, gets blasted
>Trains for that season and matches them
When will it end?
>>140943019
Toriyama wants more money
>>140943019
You'd think they would stop being surprised one of these days by the whole "little goofy guy = ULTIMATE SUPER POWER" thing. I mean, how many of them have they encountered so far? Eventually they'll meet one and realize immediately that he'll turn out to be the strongest threat they've ever faced.And that'll turn out to be the one who's just bluffing and is really just a silly wimpy critter.
>>140943550
>how many of them have they encountered so far
including monaka?
>>140943019
It's happening to all the other characters too. The writing in super is just terrible.
BoG was good, RoF was average Super is like the dogshit mistaken for icing on the cake.
>>140942663
/thread
>>140942663
You are this thread's god.
>>140942663
Yes, I know all of this. It's just silly how this series keeps introducing new tiers of godhood, and everytime acts like the newest tier is the 'true power' above everything.
Like, how long until a new deity is introduced who Zeno works for?
>>140942715
Correct.
Amazing how confused people get when things are left untranslated.
>>140944928
Did they ever imply that King Kai or Beerus were the highest authority? It seemed to be implied by Kami/Supreme/Zeno, but each time we were introduced to more of the "world" of Dragon Ball.
>>140942474
The real question is could he beat Saitama?
>>140947367
>implying Saitama isn't in one of the 12 universes in db
Zeno can just make him disappear in a blink of an eye. Even Beerus said so.
Beerus was never implied to be the highest power.
He himself outright stated there is someone stronger than him, and being the god of destruction implies there are gods of <other basic force of existence>
>>140942474
fucking christfags unable to understand the concept of different tiers of gods all doing different things
>b-but muh one true god
>>140947249
>Who said Espada numbers go from 1-10?
>>140942474
the thumbnail makes it look like his guards hanged themselves
>>140944928
Beerus literally said that he's not the strongest when he showed up. From his conception he wasn't the strongest.
>>140942474
>>No, wait, Beerus is the for sure real true God
>weaker than Whis
What made you think he was at the top?
>goku could punch the universe in half at this point
>but wait there's an even more powerful thing!!
>goku beats it
>but wait...
>a tournament with all 12 universes
this could either be really fun or really messy
also, what the hell is supposed to be going on next episode? they did return to their own universe right?
>>140942474
>Zeno's voice
Damn it Toriyama, i didn't give a fuck about his design until he spoke.
>>140942663
Still less bureaucratic than Chinese mythology
>>140950171
>Goku
>Winning
Goku's only win in Super is against Majin Pooh.
>>140953657
Goku's only wins in Z were against
Nappa
Recoome
Burter
Freeza
Kid Buu
Goku actually loses a lot.
>>140942474
you're trying to find an the equivalent of an Abrahmic god in a fictional world from a culture with a very different theology, there are gods above gods above gods.... and all are part of some dream.
>>140943019
When someone stops Toriyama.
Who is the god of the omniverse?
Yeah Goku! Tell him exactly what your strategy is!
Why is this guy considered a tactical genius again?
>>140960012
Because he was before Super happened
>inb4 he gave Cell a senzu bean
>>140942474
Watching Super is really painful, and I am a full on faggot for Beerus, he may be the only reason I watch this shit tastic show anyway.
>>140942474
So the two random guys are supposed to be the omni king's own vados/whis? And who are most probably stronger than these two? For fucking real?
>>140960012
Thats pretty intelligent, the logic behind it is:
Goku tells whats wrong->other guy panic->try something new-> create an opening-> goku wins
If he doesnt tell him, he will try something new, but goku wouldnt know when he will do it.
By telling him, goku is controlling the flow of the fight.
>>140960805
Ya I remember when all of that happened, just like vegeta putting a giant handicap on himself really helped him destroy magetta and not almost lose the fight for himself
How soon until this happens?
>>140960805
Underrated Post.
>>140961514
It's not his job
he hired gods of destruction for that.
You can always outsource
Is Vegeta gonna check out that saiyan planet or what
So if Super Shenlong can great any wish without exception wouldn't he be the most powerful being rather than Zenou?
Also Zenou is only the god of the 12 universes. Calling it now that there will be someone even stronger/more important in the 13th universe.
>>140947566
Yeah, but we haven't even seen Saitamas full power yet.
>>140942929
Nice bait. Right here is the true king
>>140942663
its still retarded because they can just keep adding layers
after god of the 12 multiverses, its god of the negaverses, then god of the antiverses, etc etc
>>140961514
Gems only work in their own universe
Xeno still wins
>>140944928
>Yes, I know all of this. It's just silly how this series keeps introducing new tiers of godhood
It's like you don't know about how Chinese mythology works. All of these tiers of godhood and gods of different areas were even in Journey to the West you pleb
>>140942663
>>No wait, King Kai is the true God
>God of the North region of the universe
>>Actually, Supreme Kai is the real true God
>God of the universe
Was this ever estabilished outside the anime?
Besides, There are 6 known Supreme Kais, how does that make sense?
>>140963606
>Chinese mythology
Except Toei ditched all the non-japanese stuff in favor of muh glorious nipon. Or where are the cowboys, the chinese buildings, the western stuff?
>>140963290
Isn't the tournament being fought in the 13th universe since it is the orb containing the other 12 which makes it neutral ground?
>>140963447
He's underrated as fuck desu
>>140963447
Satan has deep blue eyes
Fucking americans
>>140942663
>King Kai is the true God
>Beerus is the for sure real true God
said no one ever
>>140954334
He couldn't even beat a Cell Jr. lmao
>>140963800
The super Dragon balls are only in universes 6 and seven so the planet (a dragon ball itself) is only neutral between those two
How strong do you think these guys are?
>>140963800
Aren't we all in the 13th universe?
>>140942663
>yfw Toriyama is the god above Zeno
>>140968991
>yfw he forgot
