I reread the Magi. It is evident that the real protagonist is Alibaba. If someone says it's Aladdin did not understand what he read. It is true that Aladdin is reported as the main protagonist and Alibaba as deuteragonist, but based on the real facts of the manga, is clear that Alibaba is the real protagonist, in the true sense of the term. (at best can be considered both main protagonist, after all Ohtaka created them simultaneously and were the first characters to be created for Magi)
What do you think?
Shit series.
>>140839733
How about you elaborate OP
All you did was make a statement
>>140839798
Why?
>>140839733
This is the Magifag from the HxH threads. Just ignore him.
Aladdin and Alibaba are both protags, it just depends on the arc whose the MC
>>140840051
I do not need to justify myself, but I'm just saying that what you say is false.
Alibaba is still a naive faggot who don't shit and constantly getting ntr'd.
Aladdin is better.
>>140840269
>getting NTRed
Uhhhh??
>>140840269
Here you are not talking about who is better or worse.
However, if you say that Aladdin is better (so objectively, not a preference) I point out that it is false. In terms of characterization, psychology and evolution of the character, Alibaba is the first of all Magi characters. (And this not only I say, but even the author said that Alibaba is the most complex character to represent for her).
>>140840003
Not him but my friend described it perfectly once
>it's as if the author read all the good shounen in the world, took what made them good, and put them as a subpar version into the series that is Magi
>>140840732
Except Magi is probably the best manga I've read in my entire life...and I've read a lot..
>>140840269
OP is a faggot, but Aladdin is a shit-tier protag. Magnostadt completely turned me off him. Just awful.
>>140840862
Well so have I and you're wrong.
But I'll bite. Why don't you name some other shounen manga that you consider worse than Magi?
>>140840732
But this is bullshit. Prove it, let me examples.
There are other shonen battle in which is treated the politics or economics?
There are other shonen that treat the themes of the Magi with that level of maturity?
Obviously, it is definitely not the best manga I've ever read, but among the shonen manga is definitely among the best ever.
>>140839733
I actually like all the major characters of this series, including Kouen. I think they're all great in their own way. That's why it pisses me off to see Magi threads always dissolve into either shipping wars or fanboy wars where people just shit on other characters while singing the praises of their favourite.
>>140839733
I'd say they're both protagonists but Alibaba is the "hero" of the story.
>>140841061
>unfunny
>characters are all classic series archetypes but more dull
>middle eastern mythology references are not fully utilised (Type Moon does mythological references much better)
>fight scenes are bizarre, it's hard to explain what's wrong with them but basically it feels like there's no flow to the fights or any real power comparison and everyone is just throwing out whatever they have under the kitchen sink
>themes of politics only start to get good about halfway into the series
Most of all, the story is just boring. The Balbadd arc is meant to be THE quintessential arc of the series and it's just one big snorefest.
Alibabas a cuck
>>140841246
>The Balbadd arc is meant to be THE quintessential arc of the series
Where the fuck did you hear that from?
>>140841402
The Balbadd arc introduces a lot of the major characters, character backgrounds, world building, fight types, lore and themes of the series. Before that it's basically just dungeon crawling which rarely happens later on.
The Balbadd arc is sort of like the Arlong arc of One Piece. It's at that point in the story where you're slightly familiar with the characters and the main pace and style of the rest of the series is shown.
>>140841246
But you are too subjective. Boring does not mean no quality. For example, even GitS, Oldboy or Texhnolyze are boring, but that does not change the fact that they are works of quality.
Give me an example of best shonen battle of Magi.
>>140840921
Bleach, Naruto..etc
>>140841663
I haven't read Bleach but Naruto is better than Magi.
>>140841680
Sorry you are dumb
>>140841680
>>Naruto is better than Magi
>>Naruto is better than Magi
>>Naruto is better than
>>Naruto is better
>>Naruto
Are you serious?
No, really are you serious?
>this thread
Some people have different tastes OK? Even if Magi is objectively bad you shouldn't hate people for liking it.
>>140840269
Hakuryuu is a better MC
>>140841680
Fuck off, Narutard.
>>140839733
>It is evident that the real protagonist is Alibaba. If someone says it's Aladdin did not understand what he read
You are retarded.
>>140841796
>>Magi is objectively bad
This is bullshit.
Give me examples of battle shonen better of Magi.
bumping with best everything ever
>>140841942
Are you kidding me?
This thread is exactly why I hate this shitty fanbase. Fuck off and kill yourself, OP.
>>140842032
Desu
>>140841916
I've written specifically as a provocation.
Anyway, I wrote because I think that Alibaba is the main protagonist. Although actually I think both (aladdin and alibaba) main protagonists.
>>140841807
Disgusting. You want that fucking edgelord as your mc?
>>140842032
I there anything I can do? I just created a thread to say that I think, after reading the manga, Alibaba is the main protagonist. I do not understand what's wrong.
>>140842190
Your command of the English language alone is giving me cancer. But seriously, you don't need to make an entire thread to state such a trivial opinion. Just wait until the next chapter thread.
>>140841807
This.
All the good arcs are when he gets the focus.
>>140840862
>>140841663
>The only shounen i have read is the big 3
>I've read a lot
Fuck me /a/ don't read jack shit.
>>140842267
Fuck off, faggot. He can make a thread about any anime/manga related topic whenever he wants, that's his right.
>>140844065
I'm not the man you mentioned, but with that pic would you say that Gamaran > Magi? I hope it is not so.
>>140843966
Then why was the Kou arc boring shit?
>>140841297
>Alibabas a cuck
This
Every single time he makes the tiniest bit of progress, Ohtaka decides to shit on him for the next ten chapters. At first it was funny but Magi is near it's end, and for it to keep happening is annoying.
>>140845098
How has he been shat on this arc?
>>140841807
>Steals Morgiana's first kiss
>Falls into depravity and becomes an edgelord
>Starts a war and then kills Alibaba
>Literally no consequences for his actions
>Alibaba's "friends" forgive him
>Morgiana who supposedly loved Alibaba forgives him and decides to stay with him
>Probably fucked Morgiana on a daily basis during the timeskip while Alibaba became a 100 year old virgin
Why does the author hate Alibaba so much?
>>140841061
yeah Hunter x Hunter, and it does not feel forced.
>>140845597
Alibaba a cuck. A KEK
>>140845771
HxH I consider it a great shonen, but not better than Magi. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. Magi has a story far better and much better written. Instead HxH has a much better management of the fighting.
>>140845597
>Morgiana rejects him the second he kisses her
>Leaves him a crying mess
>She then cucks him for a dead guy, to his face no less
>Thinks he's killed Arba
>Thinks he's killed Alibaba
>Arba just invades his sister and is getting fucked by Sinbad every night
>Alibaba comes back with time powers
>Whores out his own country to the guy screwing his sister just to be its Emperor
>Still runs away like a bitch the second there's trouble despite the thousands of lives it took to even get there
>Alibaba has to clean up his mess
What a complete failure.
>>140845597
She doesn't hate him, she's putting him on the path toward best girl.
>>140847911
They are friends. No romance between them. She and her adviser guy will obviously be a couple.
>>140844405
It is his right, and I guess I was a little harsh with the whole English language thing. But I still stand by my point that threads about these series should only be made on the day of a chapter or episode release, lest they turn into a general ala TG.
>>140841807
He's a complete failure
>>140847911
>>140848031
Fish would end up alone before she'd hook up with her adviser. There's just no foreshadowing to that -unlike with Baba, who she's extremely close to and almost married twice.
>>140848104
What are those weird shapes on Alibaba's arm?
>>140848234
Ok well instead of him she will end up with Judar. They were childhood friends
>>140844423
No.
It's a reaction image and gamaran went to shit and even so its nothing like magi anyways.
I just find it hilarious someone can claim to read a lot and he mentioned those out of all he could have.
>>140848281
Are the scars made by Garda in Reim.
>>140848400
Thanks. I think I remember that.
>>140848302
Again, no foreshadowing in the manga. Even if the author used to doodle them together on her tegaki in 2012, it would make no sense for them to become a couple out of nowhere now.
And Baba was fish's first friend, not Judar.
>>140848643
poorbaba friendzoned
she wasn't friends with Judar because it was something more than that
Did sinbad btfo out of baba yet?
I stopped reading because these random updates were annoying as fuck.
>>140848681
>never friends but somehow more than friends
That's not how it works.
>>140848302
True, but Judar always teased her and he treated her badly. Kougyoku considers Alibaba as his first friend. And of all people, it is with Alibaba that has the strongest relationship.
>>140848643
Just because a guy and a girl are friends doesn't mean they are going to get married. On the other hand end game pairs don't really need foreshadowing, even for mcs. If the author even feels like pairing characters up in the end half the time it's out of nowhere.
>>140849005
>>140848302
>Ok well instead of him she will end up with Judar. They were childhood friends.
>Just because a guy and a girl are friends doesn't mean they are going to get married.
She's going to end up with Judar because they were allegedly friends a long time ago, but it doesn't mean anything that she's friends with Alibaba now? What? Which is it?
>>140849005
And the author is a girl, so to her it's a no brainer that girls can be friends with guys without any romantic implications.
Baba is best boy.
>>140849190
Good point, except she gave them romantic implications the minute she had them nearly get married in the first Balbadd arc, then refreshed them when they got engaged a second time 100 chapters ago.
But there are plenty of other male/female friendships in Magi without any serious romantic implications.
>>140847911
All shitposting aside, Alibaba will probably end up with Mor. If Ohkata wanted him and fish to be together, she would have at given them some romantic development in these past few chapters while they were together. As for Haku and Mor, the last conversation they had Haku seemed to just accept that Mor is in love with Baba. So I don't see him making any romantic move towards her. And unless Mor underwent a dramatic personality change over the time skip, she probably still thinks of Haku as a friend while having feeling for Baba.
>>140849447
yeah like Sphintus and that one girl..I think Titus?
>>140849451
Alibaba has never been shown to feel loving toward Morgiana. If at the end of the manga will end with Morgiana, I will consider this a big script error. At this point it is best that Alibaba remain alone (and most likely will be so).
>>140849662
He has some epiphany where he realizes Mor likes him and then is willing to go out with her. Chapter 204 or something.
>>140849728
No, you're wrong. I remember that part, when they are on the boat.
Alibaba was looking for just a girl, he would do any girl. He never said that he loves her. If someone thinks that at that time Alibaba tried to get close to Morgiana because he loved her, she is wrong and is proving to not be able to understand a story.
>>140850099
Ok maybe realistically you have a point but he will still end up with Mor..end of story
>>140849451
Ohtaka doesn't put major romantic developments in the middle of serious arcs. They're always in interim chapters, or right after an arc begins. If she was going to do anything with Baba and fish, the time to do it would probably be after this current flashback with Aladdin, but before anything else major happens.
And we don't know what happened with Mor and Haku in the last three years. It's not realistic she would still have feelings for someone she never had a relationship with three whole years after his death. People move on in literally impossible situations like that. Haku's love for Mor has always been a major part of his character, and it makes no sense that that would disappear while still being together with mor, but Mor's little crush on Baba, which has only been addressed twice, would endure after his death.
>>140850252
>Mor's little crush on Baba
Is there no Magi chapter next week.
>>140850534
Do we have to get into the "koi" vs. "ai" discussion again this week?
>>140850596
Why?
>>140850702
Golden Week.
>>140850702
I'm asking whether there is or not.
>>140850742
No it's Golden Week.
>>140841942
>give me an example of a better battle shonen manga
>confirmed to never have read any of shonen other series
>>140850793
OK.
>>140850602
Let's be real anons. At the end of the day Magi is a shounen manga. Ohkata loves trolling the shippers any chance she gets. Don't read into character interactions and dialogues so much.
In your opinion, Sinbad will die? If so, who will kill him? Alibaba? David?
>>140850976
I forgot, characters and nuance mean nothing because of the demographic.
>>140850874
I asked to see if I have to consider your comment.
I mean, if one answers me with FT or NNT, I do not even consider it.
>>140850976
maybe it is not a shonen manga
Why was Cassim such a shit?
>>140851223
I didn't like him either. But Alibaba is the type of guy to never give up on his friends. I wonder if Alibaba will die at the end if the series
>>140851089
I meant at the end of the day the only person who knows how everything will play out is Ohkata herself. If you want to debate translations or character motivations and feelings thats fine,but using it to predict who will end up with who is a waste of time. Ohkata can go with the obvious parings, or maybe no one will end up with anyone, or she just might troll everyone and pull random pairings out of her ass. Just enjoy the ride and see how everything develops.
>>140850980
Obviously ja'far. Already been foreshadowed. Husbando is too disappointed in greymorality!Sin, gonna be a lover's murder-suicide.
>>140843966
Gotta agree. Edgebros were enjoyable and their arc was high energy. babanomics arc is boring. Kou doesn't deserve to be saved and baba doesn't deserve to return from the dead. He died retardedly.
>>140851621
By that logic, there's no point in discussing anything in the series, is there?
>>140851731
>>babanomics arc is boring.
Boredom is subjective, for example, I liked all of those chapters, mainly because these chapters is one of the things that makes Magi different from the usual shonen.
>>baba doesn't deserve to return from the dead.
He is never really dead.
>>140851731
>Obviously ja'far. Already been foreshadowed. Husbando is too disappointed in greymorality!Sin, gonna be a lover's murder-suicide.
Oh, it's this retarded faggot peddling his shitty fanfiction again.
>>140851855
You got me there
I'm sorry, but after everything we've seen Aladdin do, I don't know how the fuck Ohtaka is gonna sell him being weaker than Arba and Sinbad.
>>140852062
I don't even ship it. From a literary standpoint, it was foreshadowed when jafar said blah blah you disappoint me I kill you blah blah blah.
>>140851935
I like the worldbuilding, not especially the politics. I like the focus on trade and transit but when it comes to it, the communism vs capitalism shit gets preachy real fast. Ohtaka seems to be pushing for the murderous kou empire to get bailed out just because fish has a cute face. Nah. Empires come and they go. Consequence for trying to take over the world and losing...your shit falls into destitution.
And you know his coming back from the not-dead was an asspull. And judar. All that shit about how he's never coming back, and then he comes back. It shits all over the tough decision aladdin made. It's making baba out to be some jesus character. Dies for your sins and rises three days later to come preach at you some more.
Only I hate the Magi (I mean the Magi characters in the story)?
They do not win battles thanks to their strength, since their power to also use Rukh around them. I hate these Magi and all predestined, spoiled children (such as Aladdin).
>>140852373
A character making a statement doesn't necessarily equate to foreshadowing.
>>140841246
>comparing to type moon
Why are you even bother. In the end your argument has pour down to Apple is better than this because Orange can't do this.
>>140852588
>>And you know his coming back from the not-dead was an asspull.
Because? How can you tell? Before giving a final judgment on the matter, to wait until flashbacks of Alibaba and the size it was.
The return of Alibaba in the real world is not made in a time of need for the plot, there is shown immediately after the fight that he returned.
>>And judar. All that shit about how he's never coming back, and then he comes back.
To say you have to see first how he came to that place where it was Alibaba. Mistake or may have been Ugo to change the trajectory?
>>140852951
We're talking about a manga, where it's 90% talking heads. If dialogue isn't foreshadowing nothing is.
Anyway I don't know if Sinbad will die but his wings of wax ARE going to melt and Jafar is the only character who stayed with him, all the other of the 8 went off to be kangz and shiet.
>>140852588
>And you know his coming back from the not-dead was an asspull.
Not really. He's one of the most popular characters and this is a Shonen. Was him and Judar coming back a bit contrived? Sure, but Ohtaka clearly planned it beforehand. Although I can't blame people for construing it as an asspull, due to the rushed nature of the latter part of the arc.
>>140851731
Honestly, Ja'far is the best character in the Sinbad manga. Like, by leaps and bounds. Sinbad himself doesn't even come close.
>>140853098
The vector aladdin drew to propel emo transsexual away looked like this, roughly mother fucking up and away. How did he end up on the other side of the dark continent? The universe would have to be concave for this to happen, with the sky and sun on the inside of a spherical plane and the ground curving around and surrounding it. Doesn't make sense. A vector is a fucking vector. Only way this could happen is a curved timespace or an intense gravitational pull on the other side of the dark continent, which can't be true because niggers would be walking sideways.
>>140853461
Because Ugo-kun sent him back to that world, toward around where stick-man Alibaba was living, because the world still needed him or some shit
Why Alibaba has got the power of time? Just because it was in that dimension? Then he got it unintentionally? It is realized only when it is back in his body. This means that Alibaba should have something else to show, right? Otherwise what he did for 100 years in that dimension?
>>140854031
Didn't the manga say that when you die, time slows. So he experienced 100 years of slow time or something
>>140854229
I realized that in that dimension, time passes more slowly than in the real world. So, he really 100 years past in that dimension.
>>140854031
>>140854229
>>140854387
It's nothing but an ability that consciously induces tachypsychia.
>>140851468
He betrayed Baba like three times in a row because of some old hatred and jealousy and Baba considered him a friend until the last moment he tried to kill him.
