What the fuck did I just watch?
I feel empty.
Good. Now watch Lain
>>140686153
help me
I can't stop listening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXZtIpuZa8c
It will take a week or two but you'll feel better. Watch some easy-going SOL to ease the pain.
>>140686448
Are you trying to make me kill myself, anon?
>>140686473
youtube.com/watch?v=NKNv8QKLJeE
>>140686518
I guess I'll do that.
The saddest part aside from the ending was when Ichise went to the world above. I don't really know how to interpret texhnolyze but that part made me feel like shit.
>>140686153
It really took a lot for me to keep watching past ep 1. That *breathes loudly* shit was pretty annoying.
>>140686911
I know what you mean, episode 1 doesn't get you into it at all. I started really enjoying the show as soon Yoshii began fucking things up.
>>140686692
I find the surface episodes so effective because the initial reveal of the picturesque landscapes and houses is so unexpected but then you slowly realize something is off and it just gets worse and worse as you find out why.
A lot of the surface scenes were directly inspired by Edward Hopper paintings which all have that really melancholy, lonely feel to them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKNv8QKLJeE
;_;
This show is 21 and a half episodes of winding up a punch that hits you straight in the stomach when you see what happens toRan
You have just watched the pinnacle of anime. There is no where to go from here
>>140687189
Yeah, exactly. The sound of birds and cicadas, which contrasted with the silence of Lukus, gave me hope at first.
>Edward Hopper
I didn't know that painter, his work is really nice. Thanks.
You ought to read after this. The Stranger by Albert Camus is a good read after watching this
>>140687043
He was the hero that Lux both needed and deserved.
Ran looks pretty ugly in the anime. The lack of detail hurts a lot.
Just look here: >>140686518
She looks like a man, and her hair extension looks tacked on, like an afterthought.
Her design is only good in the concept art and ED (or OP, dunno where she was in).
>>140686153
That's because you watch pretentious all style no substance shit. That's why you feel empty.
>>140687329
I expected something like that given how Kano was presented. It was still horrible though.
>>140687394
It's true that texhnolyze was amazing. Anons often say that Lain and Haibane Renmei are similar, although I haven't watched either of them.
>>140687530
I don't know much about Camus, isn't he a nihilist?
>>140687716
Camus is an Absurdist
>>140687599
Yoshii did nothing wrong. He was the only sane person in the world.
>>140687716
In my opinion neither of those shows stack up to Texhnolyze, but they're worth watching
Neither will reproduce the same type of empty feeling though, I haven't found anything, at least in anime, that can
>>140687743
I fail to grasp the difference between the two, though.
>>140687675
The character art wasn't amazing. The best part was the surroundings and landscapes.
>>140687530
He should read something more cheerful, like Beckett or something. Heh.
>>140687882
>Nihilism
Life has no meaning, better kill myself
>Absurdism
I don't know if there's any meaning, better fuck girls until my cock drops off
I really like stylish and ''2deep4u'' shows like lain and eva. but this show just couldn't drag me in.
Not only is it ugly as sin, it seems to me that its a gigantic heap of pretentious bullshit.
Maybe i just don't get it, just my 2 cents
Post yfw the secretary wasraped
>>140687857
>I haven't found anything, at least in anime, that can
And aside from anime?
>>140687943
The first episode felt pretentious to me. Once you get past the first and maybe second one, it becomes better and better.
>>140688029
>there isn't going to be any light at the end of this tunnel, is there
>>140687936
>better fuck girls until my cock drops off
Sounds close to hedonism.
>>140688029
At least Onishi gave her a quick death.
>>140687936
That's not absurdism
It's much simpler than that
It's just life is absurd
>>140688032
I got this feeling from The Road, even though it does have a more optimistic outlook on humanity than Texhnolyze
As has been mentioned in this thread Albert Camus's work did it for me
If you like poetry Emily Dickinson has a lot of poems that can give this effect if your willing to spend the time with them
>>140688343
The Road was a fucking breeze when compared to Outer Dark or Blood Meridian tho.
>>140687716
I'd recommend Ergo Proxy tho it's even more somber than Texhnolyze. Not as much on the obscurantist side as Lain tho.
>>140688343
>The Road
Thanks, I'll look into it.
I've never read any poetry but why not
>>140688170
>nihilism: life is without inherent meaning or purpose
>absurdism: life is absurd?
>>140687675
I wouldn't go as far as to say she looks ugly in the show (aside from a few bad/rushed shots) but her design is definitely more detailed in ABe's original designs (but I find that tends to be the case in all of the shows he's involved in, aside from Lain). They probably didn't have the money to have super detailed faces aside from closeups. They always did a good job on her eyes, at least.
>>140687943
In terms of the story and the way it tells it, it's way more straightforward and conventional (aside from the first episode) than something like Lain which gets a lot more love than Texhnolyze. I'm assuming it was the first episode/s which put you off it like it does most people, in which case I'd recommend either just powering through it or just watching them again with the mindset that even though the lack of dialogue can some off like some tryhard pretentious shit, every scene is actually important and giving some kind of information about the characters or the world the same way a normal story would. Either way, it becomes far more conventional after the beginning to the point that calling it pretentious isn't really accurate.
>>140688546
The Road is not poetry lad.
>we will never have a full version of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NszZ7JpqHc
This is clearly the most depressing aspect of this anime.
>>140687943
Probably because you don't really like the montage style, which Texhnolyze uses pretty often. The cinematography might come across as pointless to you IIRC Lain is more experimental and inconsistent, while Texhnolyze settles with montage for most of its time. Some people get fed up with random shot of half-face for a few seconds and then changing into random stills for a few seconds and so on. This style, however, suits Texhnolyze, because it intends to explore the metaphor of inhumanity.
>>140688499
If I'm not mistaken, Ergo Proxy gets a lot of hate on /a/ because of its alleged pretentiousness, is it true?
>>140688635
I was talking about Emily Dickinson.
As dark as the end was, I think it's one of the most beautiful and sincere things I've ever seen. >>140686518 This and the final shots of Ichise carrying Ran and his final smile while waiting to die touched my soul in profound ways.
>>140688748
>random shot
Maybe I sounded exaggerating it, but it's not as random as it might seem.
>>140687757
>>140687599
I don't understand why Yoshii did what he did, could someone explain? Was it just to cause chaos?
>>140688754
It's both me
>emily dickinson
I'm not a huge poetry fan.
>ergo proxy gets a lot of hate
And EVA doesn't although it's 6 gorillion times more pretentious. Get used to the fact that a load of the opinions here are maymays. Ergo is not as pretentious as EVA, not as obscurantist as Lain, it's actually far more related to SAC than those 2. It's somber and dour tho, that's for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSf1USPENcA&
This song always makes me tear up
It's melancholia incarnate, and describes both the blissful moments and tragic moments of the show
>>140688879
I really liked NGE even though it uses religious imagery without much meaning. Ep 25, 26 and EoE were amazing. "Pretentious" is just a word thrown around when people don't like an anime
>>140686448
I didn't feel Lain was to me. Texhnolyze really hit me hard, while Lain was... I couldn't get attached to an AI despite the tragedy behind its self awareness.
>>140689005
Was that the song that played when Ichise walked through the opera house in episode 22? It's really beautiful.
>>140689005
Is that Dazai?
>>140689036
Pretentious is a cheap word for people who don't understand or don't bother trying to. It's a cop put and is more reflective of the man saying it than of the quality of the artwork he is describing.
That being sad, Ihate NGE with the burning rage of a thousand dying stars
>>140689098
yes, cameo/reference appearance in the monogatari series, forgot which one
>>140689141
>Ihate NGE with the burning rage of a thousand dying stars
Why?
>>140688879
>Eva
>pretentious
Using religious imagery because of its aesthetic is not pretentious. Not to mention that there are some actual parallels between the show and the Kabbalah.
>>140689166
Reasons are many and I'm too tired to give a long tirade here, but it boils down to "it could have ended in a non-shitty way" and "I hated 2/3 of the main characters while not giving a fuck about the 3rd"
>>140689036
I don't know why you mean by pretentious. But the first chapter of Texhnolyze took a high risk by the lack of dialogues, and the way the "camera" followed the character. I still liked it.
>>140689179
I used hyperbole, I don't find EVA to be pretentious . There are better words for why itfailed in my opinionand pretentious is not one of them
>>140688754
Ergo Proxy is a decent show but it's definitely got some pretentious elements. It throws around a fuckton of philosophical terms and naming characters after philosophers and mentioning all these ideas without actually having anything at all to say about them other than namedropping them and making it seem like it's smarter than it is.
>>140688854
Only partly. He's from the surface where everything is stagnant and unchanging, and he didn't want to see the same thing happen to Lux. He finds things like Onishi's attempts to keep the peace between the three major factors and the fact that everyone adheres to the Class instead of doing their own thing as a way of preventing people from being truly alive. So he decides to start a gang war and stir up some chaos with the intent of bringing down someone from the Class and assassinating them (which Shinji prevents like an idiot) and sparking a full-scale revolution. His endgame was that someone would emerge from the chaos to unite everyone into completely annihilating the Class so that the people could be 'free' and never end up like the people up above.
He also just really enjoyed killing people and stirring shit up because why wouldn't you after spending your entire life without any conflict whatsoever. He got a little blood-crazy with the whole thing but he had fairly decent intentions.
>>140689036
The religious imagery is not without meaning. It's just a heavily artistic license one, making them as 'religious' as your typical psycho-religious cultural theories.
>>140687757
>Yoshii did nothing wrong.
He did everything wrong
>>140688854
Yoshii had an existential breakdown in the surface world because everyone there but him lost the will to live and accepted their impending extinction in one of the most depressing ways possible. Isolating themselves from any sort of confliect, and living in borderline sanity and madness as the people living there reminence about their past lives
In order to spice things up in the underground world and himself, he created false scenarios in which would start a war with many of the gang members living there
some people might interpret this as him wanting to destroy the order who wanted to advance humanity into the next phase of evolution through forced trans-humanism but personally, I think everything Yoshii did was out of selfishness trying to quell an inner conflict and sociopathic nature that came as a result from living with the "dead"
>>140689315
And this is how you use "pretentious" wrong.
>>140689233
>it could have ended in a non-shitty way
25/26 was a good ending.
EoE was much more striking but why did you find that off putting?
>>140689326
I thought Anno himself said he used most of it because it sounded/looked cool.
>>140689302
That's fair
>>140687757
He was morally weak. He couldn't do it in a right way, although he knew the grave situations of humanity at the time.
>>140689423
>I thought Anno himself said he used most of it because it sounded/looked cool.
It was Tsurumaki, if I remember correctly.
>>140689423
Because I was tired of Shinji and his emo shit. I was tired of Asuka thinking she's hot shit when she isn't. I was tired of Rei being a non-entity. And the "congratz lel" thing just pissed me off. I know they ran out of budget, but that's no excuse.
>EoE
Please, don't get me started
>>140689336
>He did everything wrong
No, it was the only way to change things. He was the only truly sane character, he rose above everyone else and realized what had to be done.
>>140689541
>He was morally weak
How so?
Also, if Shinji had not been there, he would've succeeded. His only mistake was letting Shinji interfere.
>>140687757
If anyone did nothing wrong it was her
>>140689336
You could be totally right about him actually just being a selfish sociopath, but even so it seems like if his actions ultimately ended up with Kano being killed then at least humanity doesn't go out with a rooted to the ground, face-spasming whimper.
>>140689711
She fucked up several times. In the end, she was just selfish and scared
>>140689711
Well meaning but naive
>>140689623
>How so?
Like I said, he didn't do it in a right way. He could have just become a politician/political activist or something. He's trying to solve a collective problem which can't be solved by an individual person. It makes no sense, unless someone is so deep in despair that it convinced him his own idea and mission is the right one.
>>140689711
She is a coward.
One of the best shows ever created, I rarely ever marathon stuff but I needed to finish this show ASAP because it was so fucking good.
The ending was too sad for me.
>>140689869
>He could have just become a politician/political activist or something
That's delusional, he couldn't have changed anything that way.
The problem could've been solved by him alone if he hadn't fucked up with Shinji.
>>140689711
I don't normally watch dubs but Victoria Harwood as her sounded pretty hot. I don't care if makes no sense for her to sound British.
>get to this part
>"He's going to get up, right?"
>credits roll
>my heart sinks
>fade to black
>>140689711
Why did she lust so much for the male member?
>>140689956
Mate, in political theory there are these terms
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_of_the_deed
He's lacking long-term goals. He bet everything on the End, but what comes after the End?
>>140690103
That flower projection was too much.
>>140690194
He didn't need long-term goals, just by annihilating the Class everything could've been prevented and humanity could've survived.
>>140689541
>although he knew the grave situations of humanity at the time.
I think Ichise realized it by the end of him going to the surface and finding out he did not belong there
Even so, he accepts it and chooses to live underground as a gang member indifferent for the fate of humanity and focused on his own. Too bad everything was going down to hell at the time and was too late to change anything in his life. I love Ichise's character development so much, he matured so much throughout the series and tragically ended like this image >>140686518
>>140689623
>>140689736
Yoshii was just conflicted. I'm not trying to trivialize him, he's a complex character.
Arguably he lit the spark to overthrow Kano and supposedly knew about the way the surface world seperates the classes.
I don't think Yoshii had everything completely planned out when he came to the underground. Kano probably had a bigger grasp on the whole picture which is why he did not bother to do anything against the Underground people or Yoshii. He didn't fear them at all and waited for the perfect to to execute his plan. They would all be powerless against his trans-human army.
I just don't see Yoshii as having any ulterior motives into keeping the underground "alive" by overthrowing Kano. If we disregard Kano completely, the underground would have still been a conflict ridden place for gangs because that's how the people from the surface planned it.
But you can also argue Yoshii was trying to stop Kano's mass texhnolyzation. I feel that the gangs of Lux (underground), including the scientist lady, would have caught on into Kano's plans on their own and it would still have ended on a chaotic war scenario
Reminder ABe still hasn't got paid a single yen for his work on this.
>>140689869
>He could have just become a politician/political activist or something. He's trying to solve a collective problem which can't be solved by an individual person.
The people of Lux are all under the rule of gangs
If anyone was going to change anything it would have been a respected level headed gang leader like Oonishi
He had power and wisdom
Oonishi was a great character
>>140689921
I hate this show because it depresses me.
>>140690272
when the fuck are we gonna get another series with ABe working on it?
>dat ed
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MU3jrpfPHg
Am no fujo, but it was great.
>>140690575
Fuck, I never noticed this.
>>140690103
>>140690199
>tfw foreshadowed
>>140690656
Like poltery
>>140690489
This is coming out very, very soon.
>>140690255
Yoshii and Kano were somewhat opposed. Yoshii seemed to essentially wish for everyone to be free, while Kano was a solipsist.
Kano was also creepy as fuck for some reason.
Did anyone else really like Shinji's voice?
His VA had the perfect tone
Absurdism:
Our world is absurd then is useless to be coherent ==> Ionesco, Gogol...
Our world is absurd but we can find a sense by different way: humanism, revolt ==> Camus
>listing to the OST again
>tfw you just want to lie down forever
>>140691083
>>140691120
By throwing off Oonishi's chance at actually keeping his power by making all that gang turmoil, he fucked up at gaining a strong supporter into his cause at overthrowing Kano
He did things his own way to show a message to the world, but it was a message that only he understood which was self centered.
Eventually, Ichise learned what Yoshii knew and expirienced the emptiness of the surface world
Yoshii had the right intentions, but sometimes I wonder if he truly did. I still think it was all done to appease an inner struggle.
He kept so much to himself and almost killed Shinji when he became aware that he was using him.
Hell, Shinji murdered most of Kano's royal family and did more than Yosshi intended
But I will give you that Yoshii was the spark of it all the minute he set foot in Lux. I'm just saying that the end results were out of casuality and not completely orchestrated by him
Leaving this one here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJfXmeuMfqk
>>140691120
I think a lot of it comes from his character design, like the hoofed legs and his blue hair when everyone else in the series had realistic hair and that he's always lounging around in a robe and giving off the vibe of an aloof, spoiled aristocrat and going on and on about A E S T H E T I C S despite clearly being completely fucking insane. The whole incest thing that didn't help either.
>>140691788
>that pic
that particular scene was terrifying.
>incest
what was the deal with his three mothers?
How would you make Texhnolyze happier, /a/?
>>140691891
The reason why tex is so good is precisely because it's completely devoid of hope from the beginning to the end.
A happy ending would've fucked everything up.
>>140691788
that scene was so disturbing because it's so dehumanized
I get a lot of 'uncanny valley' vibes from everything about that picture
The way humans are trivially put to pieces like manufactured toy parts is heavy to me
it's just so weird, they are just sacks
I get that once you think about it, the brain, lungs and heart are the main parts to a person while the rest of the body support it, but seeing it in this form is just wrong
I love this shot
>>140692038
Isn't that basically Texhnolyze's message? "Transhumanism is bad"
>>140691891
it's depression the anime
it encapsulates that emotion along with hopelessness completely, personally without it feeling pretentious
It's a great watch if you are in the mood for it. Like everything else it's just a part of life, this just captures the bad parts
>>140691397
It also ties into what Nietzsche himself actually was, a person who saw the world and life as meaningless but tried to better it and others anyway.
In the end, the efforts of Ichise and Onishi were worth witnessing, even if the world continued on to it's meaningless end despite their efforts.
>>140692166
Yes, in a way.
The answer is obviously not explicitly given that transhumanism is bad, but there's enough things that happen in the show to support it
>>140689711
She tried to escape nature just like the rest of them, so she is just as guilty
![Texhnolyze - 22 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv_snapshot_19.44_[2016.04.25_17.48.41].png](https://i.imgur.com/vLLE3we.png "Texhnolyze - 22 [DVD 720x480 x264 AAC].mkv_snapshot_19.44_[2016.04.25_17.48.41].png")
>>140688828
>>140690255
One of the most touching details in the final scene for me washow Ichise was cradling Ran in what was left of his overcoat.Really added to the tenderness of that entire sequence.
>>140692864
The technology she created was made with the purpose of maybe actually doing productive things and not dying. Instead her work went into those Shapes and she and her ambitions were tossed aside afterwards.
>>140692166
I saw it as more about how all of human effort to make ourselves last forever is ultimately futile, and we will end as a species no matter what we do
Transhumanism is just another path in our futile endeavor, because the Union and those who stayed in Gabe all met the same fate.
We can seek survival by augmenting our bodies with technology, cultivating our bodies own strength like the Union, or seek faith like on Gabe, the result is the same
Transhumanism may let us exist in some for longer than the others, but the question is if its really worth living like the shapes
>>140693122
She was well meaning, but he sin was a sin of action not intent
Kano did nothing wrong
Even thinking about the series gets me in a funk.
>>140692166
More precisely, it's 'transhumanism is not the answer'.
>>140693781
The plebs of Lux just couldn't appreciate his vision.
>>140693948
There is no answer.
>>140693985
There is non-answer.
What was the point in destroying the monolith, and the symbolism behind the monolith?
Was destroying it a way to for Ooshino and the rest of the sane humans in Lux as if to say "to hell with trans-humanism, I'll die as a living human" symbolically
The show still had mysticism elements such as Ran being a seer who was linked through some special chosen people who are texchnolized which raises the question on how she was related to the monolith
What exactly was the rafia, it reminded me as the plant in Silent Hill that had hallucinogenic effects, as well as supernatural tendencies.
>>140691120
I think Kano like most perceived insane men operate under a logic that's difficult to wrap your mind around or perhaps a logic that's difficult to accept while we're operating on our own. I think he was convinced he was saving them.
>>140694250
Kano didn't care about saving anyone. He thought he "was" Lux, that there was nothing else than himself.
>>140694250
You can say the same about Yoshii
They were polar opposites
Onishi, Shinji, and eventually Ichise ended up being the most level headed and enlightened people of the show that were caught under their war of ideologies
But the class is also to blame for that
Is texhnolyze the end of anime?
I believe Texhnolyze is essentially a tragedy. It even got the bad omen premonition and the seer. Heck, you can even swap transhumanism, the class, etc., with divine powers and the gods, and it suddenly feels like a classical tragedy.
>>140694452
yes
>>140694462
Pretty much, it's a tragedy
My favorite shot from the last episode.
It made me realise how much I missed the Doc.Tex really spoiled the whole medium for me, most animes seem so shallow and uninspired now.
>>140694576
>"I can't fap with this hand...."
>>140694417
Yoshii represented primal nature of humanity. He was the last man seeking to restore human nature to its former state, where humans were more alive
Kano is the opposite, he wants to destroy the last vestiges of human nature so that we can live on in a greater form
Both men wanted to save humanity and themselves at the core, they just went about it in different ways and fail in the end because the entire cause is futile
>>140694202
Anyone?
>>140694202
Rafia was made out of people that they dumped down into the ravine and or some reason was needed in order to make texhnolyze units functions.
>>140694989
>some reason was needed in order to make texhnolyze units functions.
Doc and Yoshii explain that it fools or tricks the immune system into accepting transplanted material--Texhnolyzed limbs, and possibly human ones, though Doc herself says that the latter option isn't suitable because of how human bodies are deteriorating in Lux, most likely.
>>140695579
I had forgotten all about that explanation, thanks.
>>140696076
It's also very closely attached to the last stage of the process Doc refers to when she's working on Ichise and funnels the Raffia through his new limbs--the "black magic phase," which really makes sense when you're dealing with a substance that's harvested from the dead.
It also got super dark for me when I realized that the whole Raffia thing is a very literal representation of technological progress, and that it's being completely squandered by the Class, and also by the surace-dwellers (who don't even care about all the people dying for the supply to continue).
>>140687470
>upper world has plenty ofof flowers, insects and overall nature, and yet feels unatural
>lux is a concrete jungle with no sky and is still full of life
>Her ending
God fucking damn it, that scene hit me like a motherfucking truck. I genuinely felt like shit for quite a while
>>140694202
>>140694971
From what I get the monolith represents Ran (that's why it bleeds), who is the city of Lux itself (her "voice"; Kano's sister/consort). I think Onishi attacked it to kill Ran's mind, as she asked, and to stop Kano's Shape lunacy. I don't think he hated transhumanism per se, but rather the wrong way of doing it. Ichinose, Shinji, Doc and himself all represent how good transhumanism can be as long as you stay "human"
>>140693948
Existence is pain.
>>140696322
>wires on surface are orderly but segment the sky in a way that makes it look completely fake and unnatural
>wires in Lux are completely chaotic and all over the fucking place
literal pottery
>>140696774
> I think Onishi attacked it to kill Ran's mind
In a twisted way, Onishi "killing" Ran's mind its a relif for me cause I know she was already "dead" and didn't suffer when she [spoile]was texhnolyzed by Kano[/spoiler]
>>140697000
The thing is,she did suffer, it was implied that she killed her own mind/brain because she couldn't handle living as a monstrosity. What's interesting of what you said is that she probably foresaw her end and asked Oonishi to destroy the monolith for the dual purpose of setting her to rest and putting Kano's plan to end. But saying that is a big stretch, the former.
>>140696853
only if you can't handle the burden and find meaning in it for yourself, but that's just my opinion
So I watched this show a while ago, and am I the only one who thought it was incredibly boring after Yoshii died? I just felt like it wasn't the same and the last 16 episodes just kinda droned on without any real significance. That being said I thought Yoshii's arc was one of the greatest things I've ever seen. Should I just rewatch the show?
>>140697539
if you want
it's a slow show, I would give it a few years before I rewatch it again
>>140686153
I remember my first watch. Fuck anon. You're bringing back all those feelings
>>140694576
>animes
Yeah, I wonder why.
>>140697539
I meant last 12 episodes, not 16.
>>140686153
A shitty boring show that led to nothing really at all of substance.
I suppose the first half until they killed Yoshi was kinda interesting but then it just lost everything it could do and went "derp katana robots KEKE XD"
Shit direction (watch the interview, no one in the staff knew what the fuck they were doing, they say it themselves), shit production (overuse of still, lazy animation).
Only a few good songs in the sountrack.
No meaning behind anything or any ideas.
If you think it's a good show you're a fucking faggot.
>>140698023
The lack of substance is on your end.
The more you know, the more you'll get out of a piece of art.
>>140698023
>shit
>boring
>XD
>No meaning
2D4U, it seems. You lack the intellectual capacity to appreciate art. Your shallow, materialistic focus on aspects like the "animation", your inability to form a coherent argument outside of "shit", spouting of buzzwords like "substance" and "ideas" without any elaboration whatsoever, your complete lack of differentiation between inherent emotional biases formed inside your own head (boring) and the anime in question, and the cheap fallacious way you end your "argument" are all telltale signs of your utter shit taste.
>>140696356
At first I thought It was Ran and I literally stood up.
>>140698023
What interview? The DVD Extra?
>>140698788
Get your pretentious ass outta here
Yeah that anon was a faggot, but don't go getting feeling intellectually superior when all you do is appreciate art instead of make it
>>140698788
>>140698419
He's right, though. 20 minutes of 'bawww my anguish of losing my limbs. Imma have some random shots in order to express such anguish' is not a good art.
>>140698974
I disagree, it captures the true essence of emotion
Yeah it's slow, but very effective if you're patient enough
That whole episode of Ichise struggling without his arm and leg, crawling and bitter, but still having the will to live was done so well and plays with all the themes of the show.
Personally I liked the part where he felt that phantom limb sensation when he fell and immidiatly tried to use the arm he just lost, I felt that. The show did a great job putting you in the shoes or skin of the main character
But I can see why many would be turned off by this anime
>>140697314
Finding meaning is ridiculous in my opinion. Since it could change at any moment, or your meaning could become impossible
Its better to just live in spite of the absurd and enjoy what it has to offer because why not
Suicide is just a waste, and faith will make you miss out on so much
>>140699286
Yes, that's what pretentious means. The audience already knows that he is struggling. That should be it. No need to drag it down like 2 episodes or so. People are complaining when it takes like five episodes or so for Goku to reach Namek and be Super Saiya, why can't the same complaint be applied in this show? Because it's 'artsy'?
>>140698023
t. philistine
>>140699378
lol read more philosophy than just Camus' wiki page senpai
>>140699403
It's just a style and a way of telling a story.
The story dragged on to you because you did not like the way it was told and felt like a waste of time to you, but I like the extra time spent on just building the atmosphere
I don't think there's any objectivity to thee idea that "a story should not take over 4 episodes of exposition because it will alienate the audience!"
This show clearly got itself a cult following because of its world building and had great details I didn't notice before this thread such as
>>140696874
>>140690656
I think your complaints have your own points and reasonable opinions as to why you disliked the show, but by no means is it pretentious
>>140699566
I have
Wikipedia is bullshit for this because it always makes me look like a pleb in these conversations
I really want to get it shut down because I'm also pretty confident that people shouldn't have access to information because I'm better than them. Seriously though, the fact that the poor are educated is utter bullshit. I hate them so much
Universal literacy was a mistake
>>140699403
>The audience already knows that he is struggling. That should be it. No need to drag it down like 2 episodes or so. People are complaining when it takes like five episodes or so for Goku to reach Namek and be Super Saiya, why can't the same complaint be applied in this show? Because it's 'artsy'?
That's a shitty comparison. Ichise struggling is folded into establishing the setting; this is clear enough with Yoshii's comments on how society in Lux is literally dealt in bodies--bodies of those living underground are deteriorating, and those with power assert it by destroying the limbs/body parts of other people.
Ueda even says in the interview that he wanted the issue of losing a limb to be taken very seriously and not something that's meant to be brushed over superficially (like you want it to be, it seems), which is why texhnolyzation isn't just a means of compensating for lost limbs. That's something that Texhnolyze does incredibly well and not something you typically see in a sci-fi story, and the show as a whole would be weaker without how well the first half works to flesh out its world.
>>140699817
>not being a rich manchild
>>140699817
>https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/filename/1419457004633.png/
Caught red handed, crossposting scum.
>>140700026
I'm speechless
Now I'm going to have to shitpost more subtly
*breathes heavily*
