Is there ever going to be a better MC?
Already has been
no
>>140423728
Recently I've been thinking about what's so great about him.
>he really wasn't a smart guy
>he was physically weak and incompetent.
>wasn't even that beautiful
>generic anime voice (FukuJun a shit)
Yet, I love him so much and so do many other anons and millions of people all over the world.
Maybe it's because he isn't smart and strong?
>>140423888
He was written be one of the smartest if not the smartest character. Whether you found him actually intelligent is another matter, but it was the intention of the writers
>>140423888
He was just too charismatic.
>>140423946
Light and Yang Wenli are smart characters, Lelouch isn't.
>>140423981
What the fuck, that's not a bad trait.
>>140424053
>Light "let's kill L on television" Yagami
>>140423728
>>140424053
The only protagonist that can come close to Lelouch is Reinhard. Besides not having the charisma of Lelouch he has one fatal flaw: he was written to be too fucking smart and infallible. Pretty much a Gary
Really, I can't think of anyone else.
All KyoShit MCs are terrible and unmemorable.
People love Light and compare him to Lelouch, but he's boring as fuck and has no personality.
Araragi is shit.
Shinji is shit.
etc, etc.
>>140424120
Fuck you
Is this bait? Lelouch was awful.
>>140423888
He was theatrical I guess. Any time something crazy happened he would be behind it. He was also an underdog.
>>140423888
>FukuJun a shit
he used to exaggerate everything and it was so annoying, thank god fukujun is past his peak.
Even MAL agrees that this is the best MC of the decade.
>>140424330
>muh entropy
Fucking faggot.
>>140423728
How could there ever be a better MC?
as cliche as it may sound, no one managed to top lighto-kun
>>140424053
>Light
No conscience but huge amounts of pride, walks into trap and dies because he isn't willing to just death note a bunch of police to shoot everyone in the warehouse because he wants to prove how clever he is
>Apparently smart?
>Lelouch
Has a conscience so doesn't just Geass people with 'obey me forever' until the very end, and in the end sacrifices himself to achieve the goals he sees as worthy, something Light could never do because his ego got in the way of his pragmatism
>Apparently not smart?
because he's what an "anime" mc SHOULD be like: an exaggerated, out of this world, realistic (besides the Geass), not self insert beta faggot
that's why the anime is up there in the top of everyone's lists, because it shows what anime should be doing
>>140424484
idiot
>>140424484
I'm not the person you replied to, but those arguments have nothing to do with intelligence.
What I assume OP meant, is that Light's and Yang's intelligence is better written, there's a huge difference between 'Smrtr than evry1 with 200IQ' info-dumps we see so often in shonenshit, and legitimately intelligent characters, made evident by the writing and scenarios they're put in, like Tokuchi Toua, the MC from One outs.
>>140423728
>poor stamina and no acrobatic skills whatsoever
How come I'm the only one bothered by this?
>>140424743
>One outs
Damn, I still have to watch this.
But first I need to see Kaiji and Akagi.
>>140424330
Fucking faggot with no ambition or anything that defines him besides "Urhhh mendokuse~~~"
>>140424794
He is just like you anon
>>140423728
I like the fact that he DIDN'T act like every other mech protagonist out there. He wasn't athletic or anything beyond average in a mech - even later one once he got a personalised and powerful one he was best off staying back and providing fire support and would get wrecked if anyone mildly competent closed with him.
On top of that, he was clever without being the usual Ender Wiggin style 100% perfect commander who beats everyone else - he mostly relied on a very good ability to co-ordinate small scale tactics and finding ways to manipulate the environment, instead of being this perfect genius all rounder he's a pretty smart guy with a few strengths that he takes care to leverage wherever possible. It's good seeing a protagonist with a bunch of strengths and weaknesses that aren't just the usual hot headed and clumsy.
>>140424484
>>140423946
No, Lelouch is apparently considered smart, but it was never shown. We never saw a proof of his intelligence.
It's just people saying that he is smart, but his actions don't show that. And the way he won battles and everything, we see him doing things, but nothing he said or did was particularly smart or the situation he was in was never fully explained, neither his way of getting out of that situation, so like I said, we never see any proof of his massive intelligence.
The only time he was kinda smart was when he used his Geass on himself to trick Mao. Other than that, we just don't see it.
>>140424823
Oh man, I wish I was in your spot, Kaiji is one of my all time favorites, Akagi is good too, but I'm not really into Mahjong.
One outs can get a bit absurd I guess, if you don't like 'MC literally cannot lose' (which is entirely intentional, it's even the catchphrase for the series) other than that, it's pretty great.
>>140424683
>realistic
>the anime is up there in the top of everyone's lists
This post is a joke, right?
>>140424743
I disagree. Intelligence isn't just what your brain is capable of, it's how you use it - if we put them side by side and had them do equations or whatever Light would probably turn out to be technically smarter, but he used that intelligence to make ridiculously complicated plans with numerous points of failure while Lelouch used every resource available to him as efficiently as possible, even when outgunned or outsmarted.
Light was the epitome of 'Smrtr than evry1 with 200IQ' with the added benefit of also having that weird thing where he's also insanely capable in every other area (see: tennis god), his plans are all riddled with failure points - everything Lelouch did was in parallel, when something went wrong it didn't automatically spell failure for the rest of the plan, while Light planned in series and required numerous things to work, any one of which failing would have destroyed the plan. Only reason Light succeeded at all in plans like being observed by L to not be Kira was the writers twisting fate again and again.
>>140424841
describes me pretty accurately senpai
;_;
>>140423728
gee i dont know anon
>>140424484
Lelouch was too proud too, and that's why he was shit.
>doesn't want to tell Suzaku that he unintentionally used his Geass on Euphy
>too fucking proud to justify himself to the Black Knights and explain to them that he isn't even and that he didn't use his Geass on them
>yes, Kallen, I was using you too!
So fucking retarded.
>>140424921
Disagree. The thing with the Geass was a Light style plan, one that showed off cleverness without actually being the smart course of action. It would have been far smarter to just have Suzaku cut the chord and then just rush Mao and shoot him - or if you're going to Geass him, why say 'never speak again' when you could just say 'don't hear other peoples thoughts unless you want to, and forget about C.C.'?
I liked the whole Mao arc, but it dipped into the Death Note style of 'look how smart this person is! He can think of ten things per second!'. Contrast the rest of what Lelouch did, which had a tendency to be genuinely clever - tipping the fight into the Chinese embassy, using the earthquake defense system to collapse the walls, manipulating Rolo into switching sides, that kind of thing. He's not infallible, but what you said about nothing getting explained makes no sense - what situations did he get out of that we didn't get a good sense of how it happened?
He's probably the most OP MC I've ever seen. He literally cannot lose. The way he got Schneizel is ridiculous.
>>140425332
>doesn't want to tell Suzaku that he unintentionally used his Geass on Euphy
>too fucking proud to justify himself to the Black Knights and explain to them that he isn't even and that he didn't use his Geass on them
>yes, Kallen, I was using you too!
How would any of that help? He was caught and betrayed unexpectedly, facing hostile former allies who had no reason to believe anything he said. Given the information he had he did the only thing he could to gain a positive outcome, which was avoid Kallen dying.
>>140425454
He loses regularly. Lost the first battle against Cornelia, at best drew the next time (raid where Shirley shoots Viletta), lost both battles for Tokyo and lost in the battle against Xingke.
>>140425459
>Guys, I wasn't using any of you and I can show you the proof.
And that thing with Suzaku when he meets him at the Kururugi Shrine, he could have just explained to him that he isn't evil, that he didn't want to use his Geass on Euphy, that he's doing everything because he has a reason, etc, etc. But no, he was like "Yes, that is right! I wanted Euphy to kill everyone because I wanted an uproar from the Elevens! I also killed Euphy because I don't give a fuck".
>>140425631
What proof?
>>140425677
That's what he could have told them. Instead he was all like "I was using you faggots from the start"
>>140423888
He's anincestfag.
>>140425098
>Light was the epitome of 'Smrtr than evry1 with 200IQ'
Why do you hate him so much?
>>140425951
I expected Diethard to be so much like Oberstein but then he betrayed Lelouch just like everyone else and I was gravely disappointed.
>>140426016
This was awful but then again R2 writing was absolutely putrid.
>>140425953
I don't hate him. I'm not gonna say the show was without flaws, but watching the whole thing from the perspective of the villain was fun and Light was pretty damn entertaining. I just dislike people treating him as some utter genius when his plans tended to be needlessly complex and reliant on many factors he couldn't control going right.
>>140425332
>too fucking proud to justify himself to the Black Knights and explain to them that he isn't even and that he didn't use his Geass on them
In all fairness he was planning to, but gave up and realized it would be futile when he saw Schneizel behind it
>>140424330
>muh lazy genius MC
Fuck off with that shit. I'm surprised that Satoshi didn't try to break his neck in a fit of jealous rage.
Pic related
>>140425459
He let Kallen believe he was just using her because he knew that if he gave her even a sliver of hope that he wasn't, she would have killed herself just to die with him.
>lelouch is so badass omg i want him to fuck me
I thought /a/ is over that phase.
This thread is full of 12 year old easily impressed children.
Do any other MCs come close?
>>140426645
I want to watch this show but apparently I need to have an extensive anime knowledge in order to GET it and all the anime references in it. I have only 50 completed shows on MAL, maybe when I double that.
>>140425098
Light is a brilliant genius; he can think throughout anything and always plan ahead, Lelouch just lucked out because he had a superpower.
>>140426582
I'm 28 and I fucking love Lelouche. I was here for geass sundays and it was glorious.
I know 2 other people that I met after watching it that also adore Lelouche, both about my age.
There's something there, if you can just bear the ridiculous trainwreck full of fanservice, there is a very compelling character.
ALL HAIL LELOUCHE!
This show just got too ridiculous for its own good with the introduction of Rolo and Guilford thinking Cornelia is Lelouch. So bad...
>>140427092
I'm with this guy. Wasn't perfect, and a lot of R2 was written atrocious, but Lelouch was interesting in a way pretty much no other protagonists were.
>>140426991
>Lelouch just lucked out because he had a superpower.
BITCH PLEASE
For one, Lelouche was not the only one with superpowers.
Lulu is boss and forever will be.
>>140426991
> Lelouch just lucked out because he had a superpower.
So did Light? Ironically they would have been a lot better with each others abilities - Lelouch would have easily destroyed his family and Light wouldn't have had Lelouch's moral qualms regarding turning people into slaves.
And Light's genius only worked because the writers made it work - Lelouch's plans were designed to last past first contact and rarely required any single aspect to go off to succeed, while Light made long complicated plots that required a series of events outside of his control to go directly as planned - if we're trying to justify it in-universe he got absurdly lucky, while the actual answer to why he succeeded was the plot needed him to.
Lelouch is still alive.
>>140423888
>generic anime voice (FukuJun a shit)
self-terminate.
>>140423888
>wasn't really smart
Yeah, no. You're wrong.
>physically weak
Yes, and he made up for it by being smart as fuck.
>wasn't even beautiful
Nigga, I will fucking fight you. Lulu is gorgeous.
>generic voice
Not really, but okay.
>>140427446
Of course, and happily living an immortal life with his immortal witch.
God is in his heaven, All is right with the world.
>>140427564
>Nigga, I will fucking fight you. Lulu is gorgeous.
lmayo
Agreed though.
>>140427610
Can immortals like Lelouch and CC have children together? I always wanted to know this.
>>140427564
I approve of most of what you said, but you can't just go 'yeah no you're wrong' as a response.
>>140427685
>but you can't just go 'yeah no you're wrong' as a response.
YES he an. This is the internet.
>>140427681
I have no freaking idea. Who the fuck knows how geass/code works.
CG thread??
posting best girl
>>140427771
This is Lelouche thread, please respect that and at least post Kallen WITH Lelouche.
>>140427681
Depends how the immortality actually works. It either freezes you at a certain age and regenerates you or works by taking a snapshot of you as you die and it activates and returns you to that state. Given C.C.'s scars I would assume the latter making pregnancy impossible, but that would be circumventable by using C.C. as an egg donor and having someone else actually carry the pregnancy to term.
why didn't lelouch just go after all the pussy with geass
>>140427844
>that would be circumventable by using C.C. as an egg donor and having someone else actually carry the pregnancy to term
I laughed.
>>140427917
Because despite a lot of morally questionable actions, he has a lot of lines he won't cross? He could have done a lot better in the first season if he just used 'obey every order I give you from now on' on everybody, but it took until the end for him to hit a low enough point to actually do so.
>>140427973
Lelouch strikes me as the kind of person to do that - though considering how much I fucking hate the bitch, my new headcanon is that's what Viletta's pregnancy at the end is, Lelouch co-opting her as a way to get C.C. a baby.
>>140427092
Also about 28 and he's my favorite character ever. These youngsters were still trying to figure out puberty when we were watching the greatest shitstorm of the last couple dacades unfold before our very eyes.
>>140423728
>incredibly popular
>somehow didn't spawn numerous clones
Anime can't do anything right
>>140427092
26 but I agree, something about him is just entertaining and compelling. You don't get many protagonists like it.
>>140428122
>hating on the best girl
>>140428580
Lelouch already is a Reinhard clone.
>>140427446
>>140427610
>>140429911
Oh, fuck off.
If he isn't alive, then why was this made?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNhyzoq4mxo
>>140429956
>>140424120
BTFO
>>140424120
I don't get it...
>>140423728
Shit MC from a shit show.
>>140424330
Even worse MC than OP from an even worse show than Code Geass.
>>140429956
Fake
Is the OVA worth watching?
>>140430325
there is no better show than Code Geass. If you name some gay Miyazaki shit I will slap you
>>140430474
Fate/Zero
>>140424120
suck my fucking dick you fucking retard
Didn't we have this thread yesterday?
>>140430442
If you're talking about akito the exiled, then no, it's quite bad. Lelouch/Suzaku appear briefly though.
>>140430580
it started ok but then went to complete shit and it has taken far too long to conclude
>>140430442
>1 - you like weightless yet well animated CG mecha
Yes.
>2 - you don't like weightless yet well animated CG mecha
No.
>>140426991
>muh autistic police inspector eating cakes
Kill yourself.
>>140430600
It started meh but then went to complete shit and it has taken far too long to conclude.
FTFY
OMG it mak me feel so sad dang it !! now i kno the true it better now i cried for 10 - 15 min cuz of the ending why the heck they mak it so sadd !!
>>140423728
Because he smacks bitches
>>140429592
Not really. Reinhard becomes shallow and boring as hell after becoming Emperor, on top of the series general problem of Reinhard and everyone else insisting that they're smart to the audience and then proceeding to do nothing smart at all (Code Geass suffers from this too, not to the same extent though) The only way you could argue for Reinhard over Lelouch is to bring up LOGH's larger scope, though it doesn't particularly impact Reinhard's characterization much and is just part of the setting.
>>140423728
Yes.
>>140424154
>Shinji is shit.
KYS
>>140423888
Who is FukuJun?
>>140423728
The cape, the dramatic hand gestures, his followers shouting his name.
Lelouch was melodramatic, but it was a fun kind of melodramatic.
>create this exact thread the same ago as a semi troll thread
>around 10 replies the last i check
>https://desustorage.org/a/thread/140418776/#140418776
>watch anime
>some guy copied me
>100+ replies
What the fuck?
So I just watched the two first episodes and it was completly retarded. The bad guy somehow think that mustering his entire army to destroy the town suburd is a good way to hide a terrorist attack and get back his super secret experiment, Lelouch survive an explosion without a scratch, a train full of completly ungarded and unlocked robots go through the war zone (why?) and Lelouch somehow know that the train was coming and what was inside of it.
And then we see him giving really smart orders such as "advance in formation" wich is apparently too smart fir the professional soldiers who get decimated by a frobt attack by the poorly trained rebels.
And then when the good guys won, a guy with vadly dammaged ribes who never piloted a mecha before kick their ass with a spiny2fast4you robot. Thhe only one who survive the onslaught is the redhair and Lelouch, who also never piloted a mecha before.
Does it get less retarded?
>>140431014
Luck of the draw anon.
>>140430953
kill
you're
self
>>140431041
Well I actually feel honored.
I just missed having a bad ass MC. ;-;
>>140431014
I actually didn't mean to copy you, we just had the same idea. I even posted in your thread to tell you that.
>>140431091
All's good mate.
>>140431077
>>140431119
What anime did you watch?
>>140425454
The only thing he loses to is retarded, contrived, plot twists.
Looking at you, Suzaku.
>>140427092
Im 14 and I wholeheartedly agree!
VIVA SENIOR LELOUCHE!
>>140431152The Town Where Only Me Got Cucked
>>140431032
yes, watch it
>>140431055
>you're
>Lelouch and Suzaku never fuck
>>140423888
Johnny Yong Bosch > FukuJun
>>140427274
>For one, Lelouche was not the only one with superpowers.
Mao was the only person he actually faced in R1 with a geass, and nothing of value happened in R2.
>>140431213
*vomits*
I'd rather watchAttack on Titan With Zombies.
>>140430953
What the fuck.
>kissed by 3 different girls
>still die a virgin
lol
>>140430793
But Lelouche was already shallow and ridiculous when he became Emperor.
>Code Geass suffers from this too, not to the same extent though
It feels like it makes up for it by having Britannia jobbing like crazy off the battlefield. There's no real way an underground resistance army should be able to maintain and operate giant robots, let along transport them too or from a battlefield, without being detected trivially easily.
Just to confirm, they do NOT have satellites in this world, correct?
>>140431032
He stole one of the enemy mechs, that's presumably how he knew about the train and where the enemy reinforcements were coming from. With that info he just laid traps and ambushed them.
>professional soldiers
Brittania has a nepotism/nobility problem.
>>140431032
>Does it get less retarded?
Not really. It actually gets worse, but the Geass provides at least some justification for that.
Britannia never does learn how to combined arms, which would have made most of Lelouche's plans fail right up until it turns into a Super Robot show where only unique named Knightmares matter and everyone else is just there to explode.
At that point, the strategies become kind of meaningless; the second season tries to fix this by adding more politics, but mixes in a healthy dose of stupidity.
>>140431627
>die
>>140431778
This, it's a train wreck, but the final scene is satisfying to watch.
Will Sunrise ever shit out a more enjoyable world setting than this?
Alternate history where Imperial Britain annexes everyone and invents mobile armors was so much fun.
>>140423888
The writers just worked on their MC so that people would like him and relate to him.
>works toward an objective for 3deep, personal reasons
Check
>"saving the cat"
Check (he saves the blue eyed dark skinned eleven under his lelouch persona as well as various other commendable stuff)
>loyal to his friends
Check, it's even better because keeping safe those he cares about often contradicts his plans, which makes protecting them even more difficult, yet he always keeps them in a corner of his mind so they don't get hurt and he's devastated when they are.
It's just that these days writers forget that autism and superhuman abilities undercover of bland genericness aren't what makes a good MC a good MC. Hell none of those traits are even needed to make a good MC.
>>140431975
But UK isnt part of Britannia.
>>140432050
Napoleon somehow liberated them
>>140431697
>He stole one of the enemy mechs, that's presumably how he knew about the train and where the enemy reinforcements were coming from. With that info he just laid traps and ambushed them.
So, he knew how to not just operate an enemy battle robot, but also how to make it provide him with real-time intelligence without raising any suspicions or giving anything away and being locked down?
I mean, I could see it being possible because he just Geass'd Villetta into giving to him while it was in operation (and thus would have circumvented most verification short of live biometrics), by how would he know that, and why would he need to?
>>140431830
>a train wreck
I liked the part in episode ten when they were surrounded on top of the mountain for some time, exposed for a fair portion of the time, and they were not hit by even a single air strike, let alone preparatory howitzer howitzer fire.
>>140431778
Wat.
Combined arms was a pretty important part of the first season. Turns out helicopters shit on regular KFs.
It's the second season that completely ignores it.
>>140432148
Viletta was a Baroness, not a random soldier, so it wouldn't be that weird for her to have intelligence about the overall operation.
>>140432148
He practiced with the Ganymede
Oh, and they all don't have much in the way of air forces. Their tech progression was fucked by sakuradite.
>>140432148
Nothing can top the last episode of season 1.
>>140431055
>>140431607
So I did some research on the guy, and yeah, I have never heard any of his performances.
>>140432215
>About to win
>Fucks off to a random island at the first mention of Nunally
>Retarded cliffhanger
Can we talk about how retarded the part was where everybody had a Zero outfit and that's what Zero used to flee the country?
>>140431638
>what is Kyoto
>India
>China
You really just need to pay attention to what you're watching
>>140432356
This was absolutely retarded
>>140432284
Kill yourself.
>>140432356
That was my favorite part, fuck you faggot. V of Vendetta style.
>>140430183
Then you haven't watched desu note.
>>140432356
I don't care that it was retarded, because it was entertaining watching the britannians get fucked.
But then again it might look be retarded at first, but truth is there was just no way it wouldn't work. Suzaku was the highest officer on the scene, Lelouch knew that, and he knew he wouldn't let another massacre unfold.
Moreover japan is the country where cosplay is born.
>>140424120
He was powertripping hard at that point, and yes that was his first and arguably biggest blunder in the entire series.
It happens in what, the first 3 episodes/chapters? Then the rest of the series is him trying to recover from that stumble.
>>140424330
>muh gray life
>>140425734
Welcome to pride. Plus he had been lying to them from the start. Do you know how long it would have taken to rebuild that trust?
>>140427092
Lelouche was a great MC.
>>140423728
Yes.
>>140423728
You missed it, he already saved anime.
>>140425332
>character has an important flaw that helps define and deepen them as a character
>this flaw is why they're shit, guys, how can you like someone with a flaw?
Just so you know, if your favourite character is flawless, you have the shittiest taste possible.
Everything, start to finish was a part of his master plan, which was to elope with C.C. and live with her forever.
How he managed to pull it off, and keep the world and everything he cares about safe without him needing to do anything else, I'll never know.
>>140425631
That scene had a lot more going on than what it seemed. It wasn't just Lelouch being pride/dumb and not telling the truth when he could have.
Imagine Lelouch told Suzaku that the Euphie thing was an accident.
It probably wouldn't make Suzaku feel better. It would enrage him even more that Lelouch had the guts to try to ask Suzaku for forgiveness just because it was an accident. If Lelouch tried to ask for any amount of forgiveness (because that's what it would mean if he were to tell Suzaku it was an accident), it would not only show how hypocritical he is, but also hurt his chances of having Suzaku help him.
Remember, Lelouch's philosophy has been "the ends justify the means". Whether it was an accident or not doesn't matter. If he tried to say it was an accident and plea Suzaku's pity or forgiveness, it would hurt Lelouch even more. Also, again, pissing Suzaku off even more would not help Lelouch's chances of having Suzaku help him.
Besides, Lelouch feels super guilty about what he did to Euphemia, and he wants to own up to it. He wants Suzaku to tell him what to do. It's as if Lelouch wants Suzaku to scold him because he's feeling so helpless.
Suzaku went there expecting Lelouch to make a ton of excuses, and to release his anger on him. Lelouch however owns up to everything and in a way is humble for once. Suzaku is surprised at this, and expresses what anger he can anyway. Then he tells Lelouch the only way out is to lie until the end and make it the truth.
I like that the scene was ambigiously written in the sense that you could assume that Suzaku obviously knew there was something up (either an regretful mistake or a straight up accident), and that's another reason why Lelouch didn't need to explain anything. They are friends with mutual understanding, even if their relationship is heavily fucked.
Hopefully that made some sense and I didn't suck at explaining it. Lelouch's other lies have similar kinds of complications or motivations.
>>140426715
No you don't, it makes constant references to Dragon ball, Naurto. Other than you have a popular anime reffernce here and there and maybe a joke about a anime one of the shows voice actors has voiced in.
Gintama is great, it is funny in general and the references are just the cherry on top. Only rule to watching Gintama is the first 20 or episodes are not great but you need to watch them because they set up a bunch of character jokes that will be used throughout the anime.
>>140425734
You do realise that the "I was using you faggots from the start" was the smartest thing he did, and probably the ultimate reason people like Lelouch as a character so much, and the single thing that saved CG S2 from being shit?
Zero Requiem was brilliant, ballsy, and really proved the lengths that Lelouch was willing to go to for his ideals. Yes it came off as retarded at first, until you realise that the world really has reached peace with each other in an effort to defeat this common enemy that Lelouch has made himself into.
Alternatively, if he tried to clear his name, it would have been difficult and clumsy at best, most people still wouldn't trust him, and the state of the world would still be war as he would have to subjugate everyone anyways.
>>140423728
Char. Was, is and will be.
>>140433811
Also it wasn't untrue that Lelouch wanted the elevens to rise up against Euphie's plans.
Lelouch was conflicted over the whole Neutral Zone, after all. Part of him wanted to continue being a hero, and to destroy Britannia. But the other part of him couldn't bring himself to commit crimes or hurt Euphie when he couldn't be 100% sure that the Neutral Zone would fail. This was a big focus point of the show in those episodes.
We know Lelouch wanted to keep being in the spotlight as ZeRo because of his slips and terrible jokes when Euphie wins him over, with him joking about getting rid of Suzaku, telling her to kill the Japanese (to get them to reject the Neutral Zone so he can keep the path open to fight for much bigger goals, like obliterating Britannia altogether), etc.
Even if in the moment before he accidentally Geass'd Euphie he was truly convinced to help her with the Neutral Zone, Lelouch knew that inside of him, part of him wanted to use her in some way, and that's another reason why it would be foolish of him to try to tell Suzaku what he did to Euphie was an accident.
>>140433944
1) char isn't an MC
2) "768p" absolutely hilarious, faglord
>>140434467
1. In The Origin he is a MC
2. Fuck you, it was the first picture from Google.
>>140423728
The maddest of madmen.
there are a few CG movies. Are they worth watching or shit?
>>140431406
Not in a million fucking years.
>>140434595
Origin Char is an edgelord, not a cool hotblooded soldier like in the real anime.
>>140435498
Because he's just a kid.
>People pointing out legit character flaws as MC being 'stupid'
Please go back to you Sword Art Onlines and other Gary Stu battle harems.
>this fucking thread
Holy shit
I can't tell ifLelouch if my favorite anime MC or notand the thought of that being true is scary.
>>140424053
>>140424479
but light died like a total bitch. Alone freindless (did he even get laid?) and beaten by a 9 year old. GUy did not accomplish what he wanted.
Unlike Lelouch who actuality manged to accomplish his master plan and Died How he wanted.
>>140435929
Lelouch is still alive. He achieved Code Geass, after stealing the code from his father.
>>140424120
Fucking this. Pretty sure every Light worshiper had already remove that from their memory by default.
>>140435882
Same here. I watched over 1k of shows and still, fucking Lelouch and his trainwreck of the show entertained me the most. Like there was good written and charismatic MCs, there were MCs that are fun to follow, but this fabulous ambitious faggotand maybe Lina Inversestill tops all of them in my head since all these years.
I blame /a/.
>>140434017
hey which was the episode where that happens? i want to rewatch it
>>140423728
Not really. The series was literally Lelouch.
>>140431213
>Badass
>
He got into THAT situation, while get a hex that wouldn't even do shit in his order and he get his job done. Nothing special. Sounds like every shonen MC for me.
>>140423728
Nope, never ever ever.ALL HAIL LELOUCH
>>140431014
Thats because you have cooties
Why do people WANT Lelouch to be alive? It goes against his whole character?
Remember how he kept saying stuff like "only those prepared to be shot should shoot"?
>>140437121
it's just wishful thinking
>>140437121
Mecha has been shit lately, I'm grateful for anything I can get.
Is there ever going to be a better final episode?
>>140423728
Yes and he's the most handsome mc too
>>140436868
he geasses euphie in r1 ep 22
>>140424683
>out of this world
>realistic
You sound confused
>>140437121
And he proved to be prepared to be shot. His arc in life ended, so he now lives as a happy farmer.
Brittannia collapsed, what is left for Lelouch? His whole existence is now meaningless.
/pol/ fag here
thought Id explore
What is MC?
>>140437375
get out /b/tard.
>>140436115
>we did it C.C.
>we became the Code Geass
>>140437375
Male character
>>140437375
Main character
>>140437470
Wrong
>>140437459
Is correct
>>140437459
>>140437470
>>140437491
You gays are nicer than my kin :^)
>>140435214
they're pure shit
>>140423728
yes
>>140437789
not with those character designs lol
fucking kek
>>140425734
That's literally the smart thing to say in that situation. You seem to be forgetting everything leading up to this moment in the series...
Kuzco?
Senran Kagura
>>140433735
>he
>>140430474
Code Geass is and has always been shit. Only chuuni retards think otherwise.
>>140437375
>being this much of an ignornant fucking pleb
Holy shit, how can you not be embarrassed?
>>140438324
Hipster pls go
>>140433811
This
Lelouch still felt responsible even though it isn't what he intended.
"I didn't intend to run her over, but I was DUI."
Also, Lelouch made the correct choice in the grand scheme. No proof that he didn't do it on purpose, and he already is seen as a HUGE liar.
So he accepted his pain and guilt to get Suzaku on his side.
>>140423888
Lelouch wasn't necessarily a realistic genius in terms of pure knowledge, but he could be somewhat methodical and analytical in his initial approaches to problems and manipulating people, even if he later had to use a super power like Geass or a mecha in order to really make his plans work.
Not to mention the fact he was physically weak was actually a good thing, since it kept him from becoming too overpowered and balanced out.
His voice was quite good. FukuJun a best. Plenty of people would call him a pretty boy, so you'd be wrong about that too.
>>140423888
>Recently I've been thinking about what's so great about him.
Probably not much, because the character as well as the show he's in is overrated shit.
>>140423946
I would tend to disagree with your conclusion, since Lelouch was visibly shown to be wrong about various things during the course of the show. Even the writers have said he was quite immature for most of the story, and maturity is necessary for true intelligence. Thus he isn't even supposed to be "the smartest person in the world" from an in-universe person. Just better than some, not even all, of his enemies.
>>140423888
His personality was pretty hammy and fun to watch. I agree that he isn't smart, he just suffers from this "Smart MC syndrome" that makes most people surrounding him way more stupid for plot convenience.
>>140437121
We are ironically hoping for a new series even though it would most likely suck.
>>140424053
Eh, Yang pulls off a lot of bullshit "I know better than all these dumb admirals!" and "I know exactly how Reinhard thinks without even meeting him at all because...." which is just as much of a stretch as what Lelouch can do
>>140437311
I believe anon means that Lelouch acts "out of this world" in a "realistic" way... And yes it is possible to do.
>>140438551
Eh, I think he was smart enough.e He would often notice the weakenesses of certain individuals and exploit them. A lot of his monologues are pretty interesting and at least show he does have a clue about the larger implications of his actions. That doesn't make him a genius mathematician or a rocket scientist though, so obviously he's not really meant to be an "engineer"-type of character.
>>140437789
>best MC
>literally JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP: The MC
>>140438324
>>140430474
Code Geass was just okay. So both of you are wrong.
>>140430442
Akito the Exile was alright. Very different from the original series, which disappoints those who wanted more of the same. Still, it's pretty good on balance except for the ending being too easy.
>>140438324
This is one of the few objectively proven to be wrong opinions in the world.
>>140423888
he was charismatic and that's all a leader really needs
>>140438578
Not the guy you're talking to but Yang is presented much more believably as a "smart" character, because he doesn't act like someone suffering from chuunibyou all the time and has a lot more insightful views on lots of things. When it comes to the actual warfare, LOGH is also a lot more believable. Not necessarily in terms of how it's actually conducted, since LOGH is actually pretty stingy when it comes to details - and reasonably so - but due to the fact that it relies on much more factors and involves a lot more people. Much more so than Code Geass, where warfare is usually decided by a bunch of super powered heroes and yu-gi-oh style trap-card environmental effects.
>>140430600
>>140430693
>complete shit opinions.
>>140437121
Because he didn't know he had the immortality of Code Geass when he made the Zero Requiem plan? Him being alive makes sense, and doesn't devalue his actions at all since there was no way he knew he would survive his plan when he carried through with it; he went through with it all with honest intention and the conviction to die.
>>140437202
For all the shit that happened in R2, it still truly has the absolute best ending in all of anime.
>>140438515
>90% of anime watchers enjoy it and rate it highly
>"hurdur it's overrated shit"
When 90-95% of people agree on a show being fun, it can be overrated, but it is definitely not "shit".
>>140438834
>90% of anime watchers enjoy it and rate it highly
Just like Naruto.
>>140424921
False. We see numerous situations indicating that Lelouch can display an above average understanding of in-universe politics, warfare and human nature than the typical anime character. Those also count as actions, not just what he physically does with his hands or body. The fact many of his actual plans tend to have unrealistic elements doesn't change that his mind could be pretty smart. Not to mention that, while not every single situation was fully explained, quite a few of his early operations do include a number of details.
So maybe you didn't see it, but there are indications of his intelligence being at least pretty reasonable.
>>140438786
This always made the most sense to me. CC's keikau doori face at the end gives it away. She wouldn't be happy if she was alone in the world again.
>>140425117
Aw shit nigga I didn't mean it, cum here and lemme give you a big hug
With my dick
>>140427092
I'd argue that's Lelouch being a compelling character prevents the show from being much of a "trainwreck" in any sense. He has a character arc and the crazy events of the story all serve, indirectly or directly, to move him through it.
>>140438763
So Wang is smarter because he doesn't act so flamboyant or hold as much of a dramatic flair as Lelouch does?
>>140438763
LOGH had asspulls as well.
Just because it is more technical and meant for 20+, doesn't mean it is more logical.
But admittedly, Code Geass relied on a lot of suspension of disbelief to keep the plot train moving.
And guess what, that's 95% of what entertainment and anime is supposed to do.
At the end of the day Code Geass was fun to watch and that's what really matters.
>>140427168
>having no sense of humor nor liking for in-jokes.
So sad.
>>140438740
biggest shitpost of the thread
Akito is unwatchable trash.
>>140438860
Online and offline, I very rarely see people who have seen more than a handful of anime enjoy it.
>>140427564
>Yeah, no. You're wrong.
>nigga
Cancer
>>140438860
You're a baiting faggot and are now filtered.
>>140438949
That's what I said. Due to the fact that he doesn't act like a chuuni, and due to the fact that the setting is more believable he seems more like a guy with a classical education and insightful views who is in charge of a vast fleet.
Code Geass is not as believable as a setting and Lelouch simply seems immature.
>>140423728
I find better MCs at Bingo parlors.
>>140438944
Code Geass was
Lelouch: The Anime
Everything was meant to make him awesome and it was SUCCESSFUL.
Hence the true answer to>>140423728
No. Among us on /a/, there has not been.
>>140438964
>LOGH had asspulls as well.
It did, but it didn't make use of it as often, and the setting also gave away that usually things work differently. In Code Geass, not so much, making the whole thing less believable.
>At the end of the day Code Geass was fun to watch and that's what really matters.
It was okay, but it's seriously overrated. Especially the second season was mediocre at best.
I remember when Lelouch was one of my favorite characters.
That was when I was 15 though.
>>140431032
I think you're being completely retarded here. The villains are really no worse than the Nazi party, which was a faction that actually existed and destroyed whole towns (to say the least) for reasons that seem stupid to us today.
I don't know how you can watch ANY anime if you're the sort of person who gets angry at characters surviving explosions or falling debris.
Lelouch was taking advantage of the IFF system. It's not some sort of complicated trick (as proven when other enemy commanders can overcome it), but it was certainly unexpected in the context of the first episode.
Again, why the hell are you even on 4chan if you can't accept teenage pilots as a completely normal thing in mecha anime? There's nothing unusual or uncommon about that, so your surprise comes across as rather confusing.
By the way, Lelouch did have practice for piloting mecha before. But I won't explain that to you, since it's cleared up later and you're already showing a rather unfair attitude here.
>>140439016
The point remains that the popularity argument doesn't hold. And I'm not baiting at all. In all seriousness I don't consider Code Geass a remarkable show and I've already had these discussions while the show first aired.
>>140438976
Except it was C+ Okay and most people in the threads these last couple years agree.
They watched it all
>>140431032
No, it only gets more retarded. If retardation is your kind of thing: please continue, you'll have a lot of fun.
>>140439022
This is some mental gymnastics shit. I hope the guy you are talking to doesn't reply to you seriously again.
>he is a boring person and that fact makes him smart
Hilarious.
>>140439022
That is childish and illogical reasoning.
Yang may be smart but you are not:^)
>>140439095
So he's your favourite character right now?
>>140439022
>LOGH
>believable
They don't even have radar even though they have basic communications.
Yeah. The show was more realistic.
But CODE GEASS was not supposed to be, ever meant to be, or written to be REALISTIC.
>Lelouch seems immature
Lelouch literally was supposed to seem immature. He is 17 in R1 and 19 in R2.
Very few people are "mature" at that time.
You're literally nitpicking what made Code Geass good. It wasn't "realistic" because it wasn't ever trying to be.
>>140431778
Code Geass is just a standard Real Robot mecha. "Super Robot" would be an exaggeration since the show isn't structured that way. The series doesn't really do anything in terms of technological power that Gundam, the founder of the Real Robot genre, hadn't already included as perfectly acceptable in multiple previous shows, without automatically making them "Super Robot" in nature when those follow a very different set of rules. In short, your use of that label is misleading.
Also, going by your argument, then Zeon could have defeated Amuro's Gundam with "combined arms" in the original MSG, but they didn't really use them either (though some spin-offs do try to introduce them into the OYW, those were all created years or decades after the fact).
For that matter, the show is roughly about as "strategic" as Jojo or a Gundam. Not much, but occasionally there's an impressive stunt. That's all.
>>140439184
If you're unable to read, I can't help you.
Not being a chuuni doesn't make one "boring" especially in a setting that is closer to real life, in fact, I've found few characters that were as enjoyable to listen to Yang Wen-Li. I can't remember a single insightful thing that Lelouch said throughout the whole show.
>>140439239
How about you explain to me how it is "illogical" and make a fool of yourself in the process due to the fact that you realise yourself that there's nothing illogical about it, making your own insult come right back at you?
>>140438899
and yet she was crying during the zero requiem
>>140439095
>mfw you weren't even allowed to post on this website when Code Geass came out
>>140439088
Your opinion.
Still, when 90% of people see it as a great show, the truth is that it might be you who is underrating the show.
>>140432148
If that's your standard for a show to be a "train wreck" than almost every mecha anime would qualify as one. Especially since you're speculating like hell about the absence of howitzers and air strikes that were never part of the fictional Code Geass setting, so you're being silly.
>>140439320
Because their appreciation of dramatics and acting dramatic have literally zero correlation with their intelligence. It's okay to say that such traits make YOU take them less seriously; that just means you have shit taste.
But to suggest one is smarter than the other solely based on that characteristic is really, really dumb.
>>140432289
>making a character vulnerable due to an existing weakness and having him fail
>retarded
>>140439341
I wouldn't imagine she knew about his immortality either; nobody did.
>>140423728
Is there ever going to be a better waifu?
