Is this piece of trash liked because of what it spawned, or is there something else that I'm not seeing?
>>140357502
Sluts and robots always get praised here.
>>140357502
You're just blinded by your shit taste
>>140357903
That may be true. What did you enjoy about it?
>>140357903
That's an amazing moment but the show is still not well written.
>Great parody in first episode
>High production values
>Actually deals with the effects of time dilation
>That ending
>Invented breast physics
What's not to like?
>>140357903
Sure hope there weren't any crew in those footholds, Noriko
This is when Anno showed promise. Then he went emo and created Evangelion.
>>140359361
Here we have one of the shittiest opinions on /a/ - Gunbuster is better than Evangelion
To consider Gunbuster anything but trash with occasionally compelling moments is an absurd delusion
I'm at episode 3 and considering to drop it.
I was looking forward to the ending that seems to be praised highly by /a/.
But Noriko's behaviour and the decision to select her as one of the representatives still bug me. Will her development later be a good payoff to finish the OVA?
>>140359883
episodes 5 and 6 are some of the best anime episodes ever
>>140359883
Episode 4,5 and 6 are the best. Once you get past Smith or whatever his name is, it's smooth sailing.
>>140359883
It gets worse. The ending has no emotional impact whatsoever.
>>140360103
Agreed. The fact that they used a montage for the final battle left me baffled, too.
>>140359961
The series would be better without that Smith episode.
All the other ones are good.
Smith was supposed to deepen Noriko's desire to be relevant and add bring her lack of capability into the forefront.
I'm starting to think only I know what this show was really about and it wasn't robots.
>>140360540
>show wasn't about robots
obviously, it's aim for the ace! moved into space because Gainax somehow had too much money.
>>140360540
>I'm starting to think only I know what this show was really about and it wasn't robots.
You're right, it was about mindlessly taking elements from a hit shoujo manga without thinking about it too much.
>>140360540
You're not alone, but sadly several people do go "wah, half the show isn't robot battles, so it's bad!" about this OVA
>>140360645
I don't think I've ever seen anybody complain that Gunbuster didn't have enough robots, the complaints are always about the writing.
>>140360734
>Ace wo Nerae 2
Never actually seen this, any good?
Gunbuster is my favorite anime production, ever. Space. Robots. Sexy girls. Leotards. Real suspense, emotional confrontations and consequences. All short enough to be easy to make people I know watch it. It's perfect.
>>140360540
His purpose was obvious, but the execution was terrible. He was on screen for about five minutes, throughout which he showed no notable traits, and the main character not only fell madly in love with him, but also made his death the focal point of her entire existence.
>>140357502
You're being fairly reasonable about your shit taste but I still want to yell at you
>>140360540
There were better ways to handle that.
>>140360731
The main issue with Gunbuster is the characters. Noriko herself is likable enough and has a good arc but the rest are clones of Aim for the Ace characters without the context of that show.
Onee-san in particular is hard to give a single shit about and her relationship with Coach is completely left field.
Thankfully everyone except Noriko is background noise so the series is still good fun.
>>140360773
We only got subs for the first two episodes this Christmas. They're happening very slowly.
>>140359121
The ship was empty, they were about to use it as a black hole bomb
>>140360847
>We only got subs for the first two episodes this Christmas
Cool, I thought I remembered the show being unsubbed the last time I checked, however long ago that was.
Between this and a complete Violence Jack translation in the works I'll have to delay killing myself by at least a year. The future is bright!
>>140360734
diebuster is the best of the bunch though
>>140357502
I thought it was a really dumb anime, too.
I found it really cliche, and only enjoyable in the fact that it's so 80s/dated.
People who like this show are probably just stoked to learn what special relativity is after reading wikipedia/quora or some shit.
>>140357502
nah you are just a retard, go back and rewatch your Naruto and Death Note
>>140357502
You have shit taste and you're stupid, that's all.
>>140360833
I can get that. It was a short one though and I'm sure they didn't want Smith to distract too much from Noriko and other girl. Two, from then on Noriko stays mostly to herself as a overreaction to Smith, i.e. she tried to partner with someone but they immediately died without her being able to do anything. Which is then brought full circle when she later on co-pilots.But smith was basically a reminder for her to not allow those things to happen, to stay trained and to not give in so easily to her doubts. (or someone else will die)
>>140359491
>Evafag actually thinks Eva is better than Gunbuster
You idiots never cease to amaze me.
>>140360973
>only enjoyable in the fact that it's so 80s/dated.
If only more people were able to admit this.
>>140361031
eva is better than gunbuster in L I T E R A L L Y every way
>>140361031
Here's the question to sort out the real patrician Gainax fans.
Gunbuster vsWings of Honneamise
>>140361061
except animation
>>140361061
I'd tell you to never change, but you're an EVAfag so you're guaranteed to never grow up.
>>140357502
It's the Gainax/TTGL/Trigger effect.
Dumb people watch it and don't notice how it's just a rip-off of 20 better anime but fawn over the "epic", "sexy", and "funny" moments.
Case in point >>140357903 and >>140360798
Is the movie worth watching if I already watched the OVA?
Only trash I see is you op.
>>140361110
This
>>140359883
Watch Ace wo Nerae.
>>140361311
>watch the shittier version of what you just watched and didn't even like
>>140361085
I actually can't answer that. That's a great question.
>>140357502
Gunbuster isn't supposed to be a literary masterpiece, it's a visual masterpiece.
>>140360734
>>140361340
I'm sick of this slander against Diebuster
>>140361110
>hating epic, sexy and funny things
Why? fucking hipster.
>>140361361
>it looks good so the story doesn't matter
You must be a fan of Zack Snyder then.
>>140361352
Ace is better, though.
Well shit, this thread is giving me conflicting opinions.
I guess I'll watch episode 4 sometime later considering this anon>>140359961, but if I see Noriko cries again I'll move on to other anime.
>>140361311
It's on my backlog, but I need to finish 12 Kingdom first as my monthly dose of long series.
>>140361423
The story isn't supposed to matter, not everything is supposed to be good because muh deep plot. Sure, the story is shit, you don't watch it for the story.
>>140361189
It's just the OVA with parts cut out to make the running time movie-length. It doesn't make the story sharper, only shorter. Don't watch it.
>>140361220
>coach face
Goddamn, I always forget how weird some of the faces looked in that show. Coach andhis sisterlook like neanderthals.
>>140361442
>but if I see Noriko cries again
>>140361423
>one of the only anime to take some science concept and work it into the plot effectively to progress the story and create emotional moments for character development
>flawless atmosphere
>giant robots
>sakuga
>that ending
>that soundtrack
>that hotblood
Everything about it was great save Smith happening too fast. If you disagree, your opinion is simply wrong.
>>140361442
>but if I see Noriko cries again I'll move on to other anime.
Heh
>>140361416
>plotfags
>>140361459
Then what do you watch it for? That amazing final battle sequence?
>>140361506
the breast physics, the epic final battle sequence, the 10/10 girls. It's not about being a good story, it's a good visual experience. Not everything is about plot
ONEE-SAMA
>>140361465
So you're saying she'll cry again because she won't rebound from the past? Damn.
>DUDE ACE WO NERAE LMAO
>DUDE THIS 26 EPISODE SERIES HAS BETTER CHARACTERIZATION THAN A 6 EPISODE OVA
fuck off with your hot blooded tennis action
>>140361442
it's cute when she cries
>>140361568
no I just hate when people complain about characters crying especially when they've experienced some fucked up shit
>>140361570
Did somebody say hot blooded tennis action!?
>>140361497
>one of the only anime to take some science concept and work it into the plot effectively to progress the story and create emotional moments for character development
This is the same anime that had the robots doing high school physical education exercises as their training.
>>140361506
this>>140361588
is the point of gunbuster. if you can't appreciate that, you won't like it
>>140361459
>the story is shit, you don't watch it for the story.
So it's basically capeshit.
>>140361553
>the breast physics, the epic final battle sequence, the 10/10 girls.
>Dumb people fawn over the "epic", "sexy", and "funny" moments.
>>140361623
>People still shitpost about the exercises they did with the auto-balancing turned off so they could learn spatial awareness and balance for when they went to fight in space
Some things never change, I guess.
Honestly the Smith episode was so bad that it turned Gunbuster from a great show down to a good one.
>>140361553
In case you didn't catch that, I was being sarcastic. The final battle was a bloody slideshow.
>>140361603
Then why was she chosen as one of the pilots, considering her mental maturity is non-existent? Is Onee-sama the only one that is capable to fight in the entire school?
Sure she apparently did some sick move that the school does not consider important to teach to the other students, but looking at how Noriko easily breaks down means she shouldn't have been gone to the space just yet.
>>140361668
I'm sure the stretching was very helpful with spatial awareness, and the environment was exactly like space would be.
>>140361653
>I am above such juvenile entertainment as explosions, boobs and humor
>*fapfapfapfap*
>My taste is refined, adult and contains substance
*fapfapfafpafpapfpapfapfap*
>I am
*cums*
name 5 superior series.
>>140361740
>I'm sure learning how to move the robots in all kinds of ways helped them
Yeah, me too.
>>140361687
>Then why was she chosen as one of the pilots
For the same reason she cries all the time; because it's what happened in Ace wo nerae. Gunbuster just took points from another show and applied them without the reason or logic behind it.
>>140361687
the dude selecting pilots popped a boner at her wearing the leotard
>>140361687
>Sure she apparently did some sick move
Yes. She displayed the talent to pull of ridiculous maneuvers without training.
>but looking at how Noriko easily breaks down means she shouldn't have been gone to the space just ye
They needed someone with the talent to pilot Gunbuster. It's easier to fix a crybaby than it is to train someone with no talent.
>>140361781
>walking around on Earth is the same as floating in space
>>140361687
Nepotism.
>>140361687
Noriko's dad sacrificed himself to save him.
>>140361687
because she's sexy, were you not paying attention?
>>140361854
>Train on Earth in situations that simulate no balance by turning off auto-balancers, which is like turning off the effects of gravity on the fluid in your ears
>Continue to train is space
>This is somehow a problem
>Ace wo nerae
>Average girl selected for a personally logical reason
>Gunbuster
>Retarded crybaby selected because muh important father
Sasuga Anno
>>140361653
You talk like someone off /tv/ and you are just as clueless as to what matters in film as someone off /tv/.
>>140361905
>>Retarded crybaby selected because muh important father
what's wrong with this?
she had to follow his legacy, coach believed she could
>>140361653
>>140361680
just go back to watching gay porn already, i know it's open in that tab
>>140361951
>Lets copy (POPULAR SERIES) but shit on everything it was about
Yep, sounds like Anno.
>>140361110
I'm a 80s fan in the 40s, and we are fully aware of the origin of this OVA being parodies.
That does not, in any way, deter from the anime being one of the biggest masterpiece in history of Japanese Animation.
Sincerely, oldfag.
>>140361975
IT'S AN HOMAGE IT'S NOT A FUCKING COPY
THE FACT THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING MAJOR DIFFERENCES RIGHT NOW MEANS IT ISN'T A COPY
>>140361955
At least it has better writing.
>>140361115
>>140361155
>>140361993
Go to bed, grandpa
>>140361794
I've said I haven't seen Ace wo Nerae before, and some other anon also said it expands more on the characterisation.
But regardless of that, what Gunbuster has presented in the first three episodes just makes me question the whole decision, and the premise to that extent. That's why I was asking if the development later on is worth it.
>>140361839
Didn't she have lots of training with the Coach?
The fact that the school does not care to teach a useful skill to even the third-year students is appalling.
>>140362005
>Major difference
That only exist because the source material was too intelligent for the ripper offer.
>>140361993
Stay awake and grab a beer with me while we rewatch Gunbuster, slightly older friend.
![Neon Genesis Evangelion - 22 - Don't Be. - 720p HEVC [533190A7].mkv_snapshot_10.39.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1DYJwCp.jpg "Neon Genesis Evangelion - 22 - Don't Be. - 720p HEVC [533190A7].mkv_snapshot_10.39.jpg")
>>140362026
literally one of the most genius scenes in the history of anime
plus pic related
>>140362043
>Woe is me! I don't know if I can spare an hour of my life to finish a 6 episode OVA!
>>140361993
How is it a masterpiece? Because of 10 minutes of good animation spread across 3 hours? Because of the plot & first 3 episodes most fans admit are shit?
>>140362005
Just stop replying. Gunbuster threads have had some dedicated shitposter lately that just goes on about how it's worse than the tennis show.
>>140362026
>>140362109
Gotta hand it to Anno, he definitely knows how to save a budget.
>>140361743
New Getter Robo
Shin Mazinger Z-Hen
Mazinkiaser
Gundam 08th MS Squad
Shin Getter Robo vs New Getter Robo
Not only do all of those offer explosions, robots, boobs, and humor but they also provide better stories too.
>>140361906
You talk like someone who refuses to acknowledge that you like vapid, shallow shit. Not there's anything wrong with that but pretending that somehow makes you different from other people who like vapid, shallow shit is disingenuous.
>>140361993
>I've been around since the 80s so my opinion matters more!
It really doesn't.
>>140361955
>hurr y u no liek breasts gaaaaay
This is the intellectual capacity of the Gainax/Triggerdrone.
>>140361902
It is a problem, because they have to essentially retrain everything in space as the movement is completely different. What's the point of having a high school that trains pilots if they can't replicate the environment? (Not to mention that they only select two pilots to go into space for some reason, even though they have a whole school of them, but that's an entirely different discussion.)
>>140362152
Definitely /tv/.
>>140362152
>08th MS Team
Opinion discarded
>>140362181
The best ones were going to the Excelion. They weren't the only pilots, the rest were likely stationed somewhere else later.
>>140362139
I think there's a phase during youth that some people go through where they believe talking shit about shit gives them illusion of importance, regardless of whether the criticism is deserved.
/a/ seems to be densely populated with these babies.
>>140362112
I did expect this kind of response. I'm watching 10 anime in this season alone and I've been keeping up with the older series.
Unlike some people on /a/, if I don't like, I won't finish it. There are heaps of anime that I can watch for my entertainment purposes.
>>140362043
>Didn't she have lots of training with the Coach?
At that point? No. No one learned that move because it was too hard to pull off and not part of the normal curriculum.
>>140357502
I bet you liked Diebuster more.
>>140357903
I can hear it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEEPosF-tNU
>>140362242
When did it say it's hard to pull off? So a pilot in the caliber of Onee-same can't do that too, even for future survival purposes in space? That school is one hell of a useless institution.
Noriko had lots of private training with the Coach, one thing that is pointed out by other students. I don't think that's fair.
>>140362181
>Train girls under adverse conditions on Earth with what equipment is available
>Do your best to mess with sense of weight and gravity, because they're going to space
>Continue training when they get to space
Yeah, I still don't see this issue. Are you suggesting they shouldn't have trained them at all on Earth since they'd be fighting in space? Because if you are, that's stupid.
>>140362152
The boobs, robots, humor, explosions and stories are worse in the four of those I've seen than Gunbuster, even when three of them are at least twice as long. Did you actually watch them or are you listing random mecha? NGR is particularly laughable.
You're just at a point where your ego is starting to be bruised because you hate being wrong and you're dishing out whatever you can. Just give it up, dude. Stop hating fun and exciting things because they're popular, it's immature.
>>140362303
>When did it say it's hard to pull off?
Did you watch episode 1? Jesus Christ, I think you might be retarded if you watched the show, didn't pay attention, then came here to ask to have rudimentary plot points explained to you from episodes you already watched while claiming the show bored you.
plebs can't into gunbuster
>>140362021
>plotfags would unironically rather watch gay porn if they think it has a good plot
as expected of americas gayest ally
Gunbuster and Diebuster are mediocre, poorly fleshed out OVAs with one great moment each, and they happen to be the same exact moment in each.
For a masterclass in the 6-episode OVA format, see FLCL.
>>140362230
no excuse for a 6 episode OVA where literally everybody says the second half is the best part. I would understand dropping a 12-26 episode series.
>>140362152
>New Getter Robo
Not really all that great unless you are a Getterfag
>Shin Mazinger Z-Hen
This is really good
>Mazinkiaser
Boring, even for an OVA. Kabuto's VA was shit
>Shin Getter Robo vs New Getter Robo
Shittier version of the manga
Gunbuster has a pretty Obari sequence
That is it's good point
>>140362230
just stop arguing here about it and watch it really quick.
>>140362381
flcl is shit
sorry
if I want music and animation I watch robot carnival and fantasia
plebeian
>>140362333
People think that way because, as you've said, it is not the part of a curriculum. They don't bother to teach a good skill to students. Instead, the anime clearly shows that Noriko, and only her, manage to pull it off.
>>140362383
>Kabuto's VA was shit
The anon you're replying to is super retarded, but you're not far behind him
>>140362407
Good thing it's better than just music and animation.
>>140362304
>make giant robots
>can't replicate low-gravity environment
>training consists of track and field instead of combat situations
No, I'm saying they should have been structured like a military academy, not a high school.
>>140362429
yes
there's also shit mixed in
>>140362381
FLCL triggered me by how disappointing and bad it was.
>>140362407
Flcl is a masterpiece, fuck you.
>>140362433
I just realized that one of those shots is literally just the Yamato's reactor
Boy I feel slow
>>140362195
Prove me wrong.
>>140362330
>>140362330
>The boobs, robots, humor, explosions and stories are worse in the four of those I've seen than Gunbuster
Prove me wrong.
>Stop hating fun and exciting things
There's nothing fun and exciting. It's trite and cliche, a creatively bankrupt chimera cooked up by some of the biggest hacks in the business.
>>140362383
>Not really all that great unless you are a Getterfag
Nah, the story was good even if it was edgy and aiming too much for the TTGL crowd.
>Boring, even for an OVA
Disagree, even then the visuals and "epic" moments are on par with Gunbuster.
>Shittier version of the manga
Still better than Gunbuster
>>140362465
I bet you like zack synder's movies too
95% of the reason I like Gunbuster is just for the ending and time dilation stuff.
>>140362407
FLCL is the epitome of the Gainax ethos. It was made right in the transitional period between the old guard (Yamaga, Anno, Sadamoto, etc) and the young guns that took over the studio after that (Imaishi, Yoshinari, Sushio, etc) with Tsurumaki as the channeler of the best aspects of each who also compensated for the shortages of each approach. It's Gainax's peak point as a whole and one of the masterpieces of otaku anime.
>>140362412
Being able to intubate a patient is a great skill, but they don't teach that in CPR or basic first aid class.
Same idea.
>>140362441
>not a high school.
Right, because we saw them doing algebra homework and cramming for tests instead of doing field training in the robots, right?
>>140362490
Nope, I just have this strange appreciation for good animation, OST and well written characters.
It's called good taste.
>>140362546
then why do you like shit written characters from flcl
>>140362483
burden of proof falls on the person making the outrageous claim.
>>140362483
>Muh Aina
>Shiro being a gigantic faggot in general
I don't need to prove anything, if you like 08th MS Team for anything but the animation, let alone call it one of the best mecha series, your taste is beyond shit. And to make things worse you also losted New Getter.
Of course that's assuming you aren't just shitposting in the first place. Which you are.
>>140362545
All we saw them doing is what high schoolers are shown as doing during PE in other anime, except that they were in robots.
>>140362585
How are they badly written?
For a 6 episode OVA, I thought they were fine.
>>140362518
doesn't matter by who and when it was made
it is still shit
>Gunbuster threads will never be good again
Why live?
>>140362658
You have provided no argument. You're embarrassing yourself in front of the whole thread anon.
>>140362638
then watch and read more things in anime and other medias
>>140362675
embarassing myself in an anonymous animu board
oh my what should I do
The ending broke my suspension of disbelief desu
>>140362664
average browser age decrease
>>140362915
lewd
>>140362915
>>140362989
Where are the pubes? Is that a version with them cut out or is it a different scene? I'm sure there were pubes when she stood up. Also an early depiction of what we now call "assfangs".
>>140363066
they cut out the VHS vagina shot
>>140362638
"bad writing" is the go-to word for brainless armchair internet critics when they want to diss something they don't like, but cannot articulate why.
>>140363095
Blasphemy. Someone at Gainax worked really hard to draw that vagina. It should be preserved through the ages.
>>140362686
FLCL has better writing than most so-called "mature" anime I've watched actually.
>>140362503
I like the dire feeling a lot of media had back then. The same way that NES games are more difficult and it add to the tension. I wonder why people felt doomed back then as I'm a 90s baby.
>>140364802
I was born in the (very) early 80s, so I really only caught the tail end of the era (late 80s early 90s,) but I think a great deal of the sort of feeling you are describing came from the fact that up through the fall of the Soviet Union, the threat of cataclysmic nuclear war was very real. While that may not have been as present a thing in Japan as it was in the West, it certainly had an effect on the atmosphere of the whole world, also for Japan specifically, there was the decadent, capitalist orgy of the bubble economy years, and then a mass feeling of fear, hopelessness, and collective disappointment when that bubble burst and they entered a huge recession.
>>140357502
Wow, way to be a massive faggot in 3 seconds flat.
>>140357502
It's literally the best anime of all time, and its sequel is an insult to all anime that ever was and ever will be.
>>140361110
>>140361220
Anon I like those shows equally without having to use buzzwords like 'ripoff'.
If you don't, you're not even into suparobo stuffs.
I bet you don't even touch SRWs do you
>>140363095
Why'd they have to go and do that? Would it have gotten them censored or something? I think it's a shame that it's so hard to find now, every second of Gunbuster should be preserved.
>>140357502
Nope, people on this website worship famous pre 90s shows to appear elitist and oldfag.
>>140362545
I see this thread is still up, so I hope you don't mind me replying to you.
I think it's obvious to teach basic materials for those that are starting their study. As you proceed to a higher grade in schools, I'd imagine you will be taught even more complex stuff to complement the basic ones, like your example of tracheal intubation. In battlefield, you are expected to seek other procedures if CPR failed to ensure that soldiers won't drop like flies easily.
Same thing applies here. In case your robot's sensory function is broken, you can just ditch it and Thunder Kick your enemies as much as you want.
The fact that everyone, without exception, is struck with awe leads me to these points: (1) those poor girls are still stuck with the same learning material throughout their three years at school, (2) the school is a failed institution and should be abolished, and (3) the anime deliberately casts the spotlight on the crybaby but amazing rookie who can do one thing that third-year students can do too if given the chance to learn.
I can't help but to think that it is poor writing. I admit I'm being too critical towards this anime. But a flaw is a flaw and I don't see any point to defend it further.
I'll be sure to watch episode 4, seeing so many people love it here and I want to like it too as the animation and visuals are great. Thanks for the discussion.
>>140365134
Nah Diebuster was pretty fun.
I'm going to watch this shit now and I'm going to come back and start a thread about how okay it is
>>140366005
Maybe just come back to this thread after every episode. It would be better for all.
