In all seriousness, why does anyone like her?
>can barely fight (despite being in the main cast of a fighting series)
>doesn't do anything except point at the next plot location
>her job could be done by anyone
>the plot is specifically tailored to justify her existence
One Piece is plagued by completely superfluous characters, and all that bullshit started with her. She has no reason whatsoever to be here. I fucking hate this bitch.
>>140263520
>doesn't do anything except point at the next plot location
>her job could be done by anyone
She saved her crew lives multiple times with her navigator skills, skills that the other members don't have.
>>140263674
Skills that they should have. They're pirates, and yet only one of them has the ability to read a map and use a compass. Riiiight, cause that makes sense. The reason she's the only one with any navigational skills is bad writing.
>>140263520
>can barely fight (despite being in the main cast of a fighting series)
She's a glass canon but with her smarts it works, like against Khalifa who knew martial arts and outranked her in all physical stats. Her stamina and defenses are shit but mirage evasion, thinking on her feet, and lightning strikes more than make up for it.
>doesn't do anything except point at the next plot location
She handles money and keeps a tight leash on the stupider Strawhats
>her job could be done by anyone
Hardly. Right now it appears she is the best navigator in the entire series.
>the plot is specifically tailored to justify her existence
How, because it was established the Grand Line has very unstable currents, weather, and other phenomena back in like Chapter 100?
>>140263520
>In all seriousness, why does anyone like her?
>>140263820
The whole crew consists of autists. They're very good at one thing but in general are unable to function in society, which is why none of them could replace nami.
>>140264047
Being specialised in one field does not make one autistic, for fuck's sake.
>>140263832
>She's a glass canon but with her smarts it works, like against Khalifa who knew martial arts and outranked her in all physical stats. Her stamina and defenses are shit but mirage evasion, thinking on her feet, and lightning strikes more than make up for it.
Her entire "fighting" style is making shit up as she goes along. Riveting.
>She handles money and keeps a tight leash on the stupider Strawhats
The stupider Strawhats consist of everyone that isn't her.
>Hardly. Right now it appears she is the best navigator in the entire series.
And again, this is a fighting series, not a a story about cartographers. So her being DA BEST NAVIGATOR EVAR!!! means jack shit.
>How, because it was established the Grand Line has very unstable currents, weather, and other phenomena back in like Chapter 100?
The Grand Line's anomalous properties are the only thing keeping Nami on that boat. If we assumed everything in the story, and thus the Grand Line, was planned from the beginning, that means Oda created an entire character who's sole purpose is to make plausible the idea that this group of borderline retards don't get killed by their own incompetence.
>>140263520are you the same guy from the toonami general?
>>140264144
>Her entire "fighting" style is making shit up as she goes along. Riveting.
So does Luffy. I don't see you complaining. Also Nami's fights at least tend to make sense given her abilities at predicting and understanding weather.
>The stupider Strawhats consist of everyone that isn't her
Are you complaining that she's financially capable?
>And again, this is a fighting series, not a a story about cartographers. So her being DA BEST NAVIGATOR EVAR!!! means jack shit.
This is an action/adventure series, dumbass. There's plenty of fighting in it but it's mostly built on world building and traveling the world. Read/watch something else.
>>140263970
Breasts are not a narrative role, anon. With access to the Internet, one can see breasts whenever one likes. Characters have to actually be worth a damn by merit of their contributions to the story itself.
>>140264047
I refuse to believe that absolutely none of them could learn how to drive. If they're all this stupid, then they deserve to fail.
>>140264380
It's not about Driving its about navigating, knowing the weather thats up ahead. She's probably the second most replaceable character in the crew beside Robin. Especially in the new world with the bat shit weather.
>>140264380
Navigating is to steering as is Piloting a plane is to flying.
>>140263520
How is she one of the smartest people in the anime again?
The fucking deer is smarter than her.
>>140264426
>last person that could read a language that will lead them to Raftel
>replaceable
wew lad
Nigga they don't have a fucking GPS. A navigator needs to know about star charts and triangulation and shit just to be sure they're going in a straight line. And that's in a normal goddamn ocean, not One Piece's whacky bullshit land. You do realize actual ships and fleets had navigators too, right?
>>140264426
>knowing the weather thats up ahead
Nami is apparently the only one who can look up and forward. Nobody else can tell that it's going to rain. Again, makes so much sense and isn't bullshit at all.
>>140264454
She was easily the smartest person in the story until after the Arlong arc. That she stayed with these retards is proof that she's just as much an idiot as they are.
>>140264380
>I refuse to believe that absolutely none of them could learn how to drive. If they're all this stupid, then they deserve to fail.
I'm fairly certain that learning to sail up a mountain, ride a torrent of water to the sky, and submerging and resurfacing a sailboat are not part of the curriculum for most sailing schools.
>>140264635
>Look up and look forward
Can you tell it far enough in advance to be able to do shit about it? Or can you just do it if you see clouds? Because if you don't notice it's gonna storm until you can see the clouds then you're a shit navigator and you're probably at a greater risk of capsizing.
>>140263520
>can barely fight (despite being in the main cast of a fighting series)
Somone didn't read Enies Lobby
>doesn't do anything except point at the next plot location
I'd say that's something. In fact that's a pretty big something.
>her job could be done by anyone
You could say that about anyone
>the plot is specifically tailored to justify her existence
You could say that about anyone
>>140264380
She's eye candy and gives a sexual/comedic outlet for the story.
Also, here skills as a navigator are an important one. Navigating is a difficult thing and was (and still is despite modern technology) an important role in any ship.
>>140264635
Nami's not even the smartest person in her crew anymore. On the contrary, even Usopp had more intellect than she did because he built her stuff.
Robin was reading complex books since she was a fucking kid.
Franky is Usopp on steroids when it comes to building things.
And again, the reindeer is a fucking doctor.
Nami is smart in the sense that she isn't a complete idiot and depends solely on fighting prowess. In which case, normal intellect = being smartest there is.
Fuck you, Oda.
>>140264380
What a huge fucking faggot
>>140264840
Though I will admit she makes a kickass navigator and is smart in that sense, sort of like the others.
The thing is, she isn't given much time to shine when it comes down to using those skills, which are far and few between.
>>140264840
Nami's just smart about money and smart about navigating. Those are her specialties. It just happens as pirates a lot of stuff falls under those umbrellas.
>>140263520
Why does any character exist, ever?
>>140264568
>You do realize actual ships and fleets had navigators too, right?
Yeah, but they had more than a single person who was able to point at a direction.
>>140264341
>This is an action/adventure series, dumbass. There's plenty of fighting in it but it's mostly built on world building and traveling the world.
See, that's bullshit. The series spends many many chapters at a time on long, drawn out battles. The adventure part of action/adventure happens once in a blue moon. And since that's such a rare occurrence, Nami becomes massively useless.
>>140265057
>who was able to point at a direction.
Fucking hell stop strawmanning so hard.
Navigating involves far more than just pointing at a direction on a map and saying 'let's go here!'.
Your hate for Nami is unjustifiable and frankly borderline autistic, it's embarrassing more so when you consider you're vehemently against a character in a fictional show aimed at young teenagers in a country which you don't live in but arrogantly watch as though it was made for your own pleasure.
>>140264840
It's not about who is the most intelligent on the ship. They all have rolls to play, and Nami's is one of the most vital for crew.
Robin can tell you about the history of sailing.
Franky can build the boat transport you.
Ussop can build a bunch of useful inventions.
Chopper can preform CPR.
None of that is much help though when the weather decides it's going to throw strong winds, tidal waves or the impossible weather phenomena that take place in the Grand Line.
>>140264778
>You could say that about anyone
You could, when the story is badly written. The plot shouldn't have to bend and twist to suit the characters' individual skillsets.
>>140265228
>Navigating involves far more than just pointing at a direction on a map and saying 'let's go here!'.
Like what? "Don't drive over that reef.", "The wind stopped.", "Hey, it's gonna rain.". Yes, such complexity.
>Your hate for Nami is unjustifiable
My hate for Nami is perfectly justified, as she is a character that should not exist.
>>140263520
what do you have to say about usopp?
>>140265374
>>140265057
>You could, when the story is badly written. The plot shouldn't have to bend and twist to suit the characters' individual skillsets.
It's a show about pirates. It's a show about Pirates SAILING around SEARCHING for a treasure.
>See, that's bullshit. The series spends many many chapters at a time on long, drawn out battles. The adventure part of action/adventure happens once in a blue moon. And since that's such a rare occurrence, Nami becomes massively useless.
They spend just as long just...traveling around.
Laboon was just traveling around, Logue town was 80% sight seeing, Every story beat spends a lot of time building up the story before it comes to fighting the villain, Water 7 was mostly just story beats until Enies Lobby,
I'd argue that at least 50% or more of the series is spent on story, buildup to fights, or world building than the actual fights. So if you want nothing but fights, watch something else. Hell, the whole story is literally about SEARCHING for a treasure. Not FIGHTING for a treasure.
(You know what's helpful in a search to an uncharted island? Probably some sort of...navigator...)
>>140265405
Nothing whatsoever. He can actually fight, so he justifies his existence more than Nami.
>>140264892
>kickass navigator
How do we know that? She's the ONLY navigator.
>>140265632
>He can actually fight.
Not much better than Nami. I can't really think of any fight Usopp's had that Nami wouldn't have done just as good in, really. It's less that she CAN'T fight and more that she DOESN'T fight. And your argument against that is "I don't like climatact and her fighting style is just making shit up as she goes" but that doesn't mean she doesn't fight. It means you just don't like how her fights are handled. It's your personal problem with Nami.
>>140265632
I'm sure other pirates crews have them...
Somewhere...
On their ship...
Hiding maybe...
>>140265340
see
>>140264663
The moments were her navigation skills have shined may be sparse through the story, but they have had a large impact on the story when they do happen. How often they happen doesn't make her contributions any less significant. The crew would never be able to make it as far as they have with out her skill set. Without her, the crew would have probably not have survived East Blue or at the most, died trying to sail through the Calm Belt.
>>140265813
I don't know what you are complaining about. I actually took it back and was more complaining about how Oda has disregarded her skill as a navigator. Like how Oda forgot Sanji was a cook.
>>140265374
Anon, you're underestimating sea travel too much. A ship is not a thing that can brake or make a turn instantly. Plus the fact that it's a fucking sail ship. Water current is dangerous, and don't forget that there are no such thing as road marker. You can easily get lost in the middle of the ocean.
>>140265613
Yeah, fine, she gets them to the next plot thing. And then what? Once things of consequence start happening, she just stands on the sidelines bitching about how all her friends are idiots.
Fuck you, bitch, at least they're working on resolving the conflict, you're doing jack shit. Ain't you supposed to be a pirate? Go steal something at least, damn.
>if you want nothing but fights,
I don't, which is why I hate One Piece. When the characters aren't meandering around in uninteresting locales, they're spending years at a time fighting some dude and his annoying as fuck goon squad.
>>140265886
It's more like I didn't understand what type of point you were trying to make at >>140265340. I agree that Oda should give her more time in the spotlight. I thought you meant that because those moments not happening every arc meant that they were negligible.
>>140265792
>It's less that she CAN'T fight and more that she DOESN'T fight.
That's my main problem with her. The few times she does fight it's really stupid and boring, but at least then she's contributing to the action for once. This is rare though, and calls into question why she even exists.
>>140265813
>Without her, the crew would have probably not have survived East Blue or at the most, died trying to sail through the Calm Belt.
That's bad writing. Story progression should not be dependent on a single character who does fuck all but stand there unless the plot calls for it.
>>140263520
I don't like her. I like her tits.
>>140265887
So basically, being a good navigator involves being able to pay attention. Again, such a complex tapestry of detail.
>>140266194
>The few times she does fight it's really stupid and boring
I enjoy them but this is more of an opinion thing.
But yeah Nami exists and she contributes a lot. Just seldom is it actual action. She's still not underused enough to bother me. And at the end of the day you can only argue how Nami feels to YOU. If you think she's pointless, that's fine. Deal with it or send Oda a letter to write her doing more stuff. But as is I think she's fine.
>>140266376
>But yeah Nami exists and she contributes a lot.
She doesn't contribute anything of consequence. Everything she does should be done by someone who is actually competent. But we can't have that, because that would make sense, and would cut down on the number of pointless characters.
Stop feeding the fucking troll, you idiots. It's been 2 hours and he hasn't brought up any reasonable fact to back up his opinion. He keeps repeating the same things.
Navigation is fundamental in One Piece, look at Luffy and Zoro before Nami, and Barto and his crew, they could have died if there wasn't someone there to guide them.
>>140266291
Paying attention is not enough, you have to analyze the situation and predict storm way ahead of the time if you want to survive, not everybody has these abilities. What a retard
>>140266689
>Paying attention is not enough, you have to analyze the situation and predict storm way ahead of the time if you want to survive, not everybody has these abilities.
Actually, yes, everyone does have those abilities. Those who don't have something seriously wrong with them.
>Navigation is fundamental in One Piece
No it isn't. There is no need to have a character who's sole purpose is to say "Hey, let's go this way.". They need to do more. I keep saying the same thing because that's the facts of why Nami is a shit character who needs to go away. Yet you still don't fucking get it.
>>140266194
>That's bad writing. Story progression should not be dependent on a single character who does fuck all but stand there unless the plot calls for it.
So, are you arguing that characters in a story shouldn't have traits or skills unique to them that makes their inclusion import? That's what make a character a character and not a set piece. Also the story progression is not dependent on a single character. While I said that the crew could not survive with out her, the opposite is also true. She couldn't survive without her crew. They all play a part in moving the story forward. That's why they are the main cast. Some may play a larger role than others at different times, but they all contribute.
If you are going to argue that a character is arbitrary because you can just make another character take over their role, the same can be said for any other character as well. You could just have Luffy the navigator/doctor/archeologist/chef/inventor/musician/swordsman/rubberman sailing around the world punching marines and it would be a boring Mary Sue story. They good characters because the are not perfect and have to pitch in to get stuff done.
>>140264380
You underestimate the value of boobs on a woman. If a woman even indirectly gives orgasms to men by being a fap fantasy, she will be automatically more liked.
>>140267036
Characters may have unique traits, but they should also be versatile. Nami's only contribution to the story is pointing at where the group needs to go next. She's nigh useless in a fight, and as dumb as the other cast members are, they can probably do basic math, so her purported financial savvy means nothing. So why is she here when any of the other crew members, who otherwise pull their weight in other way, could just have her skills added to theirs?
And again, that lack of fighting ability really does damn her in this primarily action based series.
>>140267186
Not for me it doesn't. Boobs are sacks of flesh that occasionally produce milk. Big whoop.
>>140267381
>Not for me it doesn't. Boobs are sacks of flesh that occasionally produce milk. Big whoop
Gay spotted.
>>140267773
So what if I was gay? Nothing at all would change. I still wouldn't care about boobs, and your waifu would still be a shit character.
>>140267902
Fuck off, faggot.
>faggots feeding the troll
sure /v/ is here
>>140267902
>and your waifu would still be a shit character.
>implying
My waifu is best girl in entire franchise. Away with you.
>>140267381
Having your ship follow and arrow works pretty well until it starts pointing to an island 10,000 meters up or anther one 10,000 meters below sea level. The Grand Line is a place where such fantastical places exist and having a Navigator of Nami's caliber comes in handy. Not to mention the strange weather phenomena that can start up at a moment's notice. Most people don't even perceive changes in things like atmospheric pressure, let alone being able to pick it up as quickly and analyze it like she can. Knowing how to deal with those situations is a pretty important skill when your main mode of transport and home operates using the weather and can be destroyed by it.
As far as her accounting goes, she makes sure that the money spent responsibly. Here crew mates would squander millions on food and parties if it wasn't for her.
>>140268040
>best girl
>out of at most four, the other three of which are crap
>>140268070
>Most people don't even perceive changes in things like atmospheric pressure, let alone being able to pick it up as quickly and analyze it like she can.
I can do that. But apparently noticing that the clouds are grey, and the wind feels a bit strong is a mutant superpower I never realized I had.
>As far as her accounting goes, she makes sure that the money spent responsibly. Here crew mates would squander millions on food and parties if it wasn't for her.
Again, all the other characters have to be idiots for Nami to have any reason to exist.
