>Literally every single season has a trapped in game world plot
>>140036797
while it may be super lazy and easy to write, it sells well, so can you really blame them?
This season has two isekai shows and one show about people who play games, but I can't think of any where people are trapped in a game.
>>140036843
>It sells well
Sorry i don't recall any besides overlord and sao selling over 10k
But Overlord and Rezero are pretty good despite following the cliched plot.
>>140036943
10k is great.
Well is 4000-6000
How would you feel about a show about people who can leave the game world at any time, but refuse to?
>>140036797
did SAO start the trend or was it the first one in a while that became wildly successful?
>>140036797
Yes it's basically become a genre now.
>>140037059
Both of your questions are identical. Yes, its success started the trend. No, it wasn't the first of its kind.
>>140036964
Re:Zero isn't even trapped in a game world.
>>140037059
Maybe only the setup about the average joe getting trapped in a game world. The fantasy and reality based on a game setting has been around for years before SAO.
>>140036797
I usually drop this kind of shows, they tend to grab my attention for only a few couple of episodes. Still, it's leagues better than any Magic High School Academy anime.
>>140037179
>Re:Zero isn't even trapped in a game world.
>Walks to shops
>Comes out
>Suddenly in a rpg fantasy land
Still the same shit.
>>140036797
Life is a game that were all trapped in anon.
>>140037157
Western authors do it all the time as well
>>140037314
So all parallel/alternative universe or shows are the same shit to you?
El Hazard
SAO
Escaflowne
Rayearth
Inuyasha
NGNL
12 Kingdoms
MÄR
Mondaiji
Etc.
All the same, right?
The concept isn't new, but it's so common now that it feels like a new genre? What do we call it, a .Hacklike or something?
>>140037157
>"western authors are better because..."
Western authors are making Hunger games clones, and 2015-2016 Hollywood make a lot of "esque-hunger games" medias. it´s the same shit that japanese LN, virgins teenagers that save a world because adults are useless
>>140037645
Case and point.
Why is every medium now so trashy?
>>140037735
How is X-Men anything like the Hunger Games besides that they both have JLaw in them?
It's the latest fad. I imagine it'll keep going til 2018 at least. I just pray the shitty magic academy fad ends soon. It's gone on way too long and it's unbearably shitty.
>>140037645
Hunger Games heavily ripped off Battle Royale. Not saying you're wrong. Pointing it out further for >>140037157
>>140037794
you're getting old and cynical. I am too, but the same shit was happening when we were younger, we were just way more accepting of it and it never really occurred to us
>>140036943
konosuba is literally the best selling of last season
its not as explicit as "i used to plays games now im stuck in game world" but its still "im in a fantasy world with tons of dumb rpg leveling quest shit"
>>140037444
not sure if this is ironic
>>140037797
>Teenagers save the world because adults are useless
>>140036797
Tadokoro a cute!
>>140037179
Technically neither is Overlord. But it's fucking obvious that is the basic premise from which they expanded.
>>140036797
I remember when Harry Potter was popular and most 2003-2007 animes are about magic schools.
SAO invented "trapped game world" and now every season have this plot, and see how people hype VR headset because want "sao experiences", wait 2018 for see the next trend in anime
>>140038024
>SAO invented "trapped game world"
>>140036797
I can't think of one for this season or last. Neither PSO2 or Grimgar were a trapped in a game world shows.
>>140038024
>SAO invented "trapped game world"
.hack was the first anime to do it. SAO only turned it into a fad because they showed it could flashy and appeal to teenagers. And besides it's already evolved from "stuck in a video game" to "reincarnated into a video game-like world"
>>140038112
I don't know if you're playing dumb or you really can't see how Re:Zero, KonoSuba and Grimgar are based on video games.
>>140037275
>Magic High School Academy anime.
God I love these shows, add in a harem and I;m all set
>>140037915
Well Overlord sort of was, but it was more like he was transported into a world with the same lore and setting as his game.
>>140038024
Magic schools are still popular, but we only have the shittiest most derivative versions of it left. They are almost always battle harems now.
>>140038024
Fuck off, jesus christ, you /v/erming are so easy to tell apart.
>>140038232
Like Commushou, I guess?
In this it's being reborn and not transported, though.
>>140038171
But they fucking aren't, you retard. Grimgar, Konosuba, and Re:Zero are fantasy worlds. Konosuba the MC dies and it brought back to life in another universe. Grimgar they are from another universe and not stuck in a game. Re:Zero MC is summoned by the which Satella because she lusts for his cock. It's different, stop being a retarded cunt for once in your god damn life anon. I know you can do it if you try. It's similar but it isn't the same shit. You might as well say Netoge is a "trapped in an mmo" anime as well, you fucking retard. It isn't.
>>140038232
>but it was more like he was transported into a world with the same lore and setting as his game
But that's totally wrong. The new world is not the same setting nor is it even based on the game's setting. That's one of the first things he noticed: the landscape was completely different from what he knew in the game and he had no clue where he was. In fact only equipment and magic really remained somewhat similar, but even then there were differences. Plus there were spells and abilities that never existed in the game and he had no knowledge of how they worked.
>>140038232
>he was transported into a world with the same lore and setting as his game.
How a medieval no-game world have "cash shop items" ?
>>140038351
Not him, but you're sperging out over nothing. Konosuba is exactly the same setting (complete with leveling up), but they just refrain from mentioning games.
>>140038351
>Grimgar, Konosuba, and Re:Zero are fantasy worlds
Based heavily on RPGs. Have you literally never played a single JRPG in your life? I can't think of any other reason you'd sit there and pretend those anime have absolutely no resemblance to RPGs. Especially fucking KonoSuba which is a blatant parody of them.
>>140038299
That was obvious b8 you fucking retard. How about you go back to >>>/b/ and don't come back?
>>140038477
Go pretend to be a retard somewhere else.
I don't understand people bitching about high schools and I don't understand people bitching about this.
I am the first one who would prefer a different approach to worldbuilding, mmo/mmo-like is such a lazy way to explain things, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter because "trapped in a game" or real fantasy is functionally the same.
>>140038511
Are you >implying I'm the faggot that posted that? Fuck off already
>>140037157
Most of LN writers are just anime fan boys/girls. To treat of them like real writers is stupid.
>>140037157
These are the words of a man who doesn't read romance novels for housewives.
>>140038520
>because "trapped in a game" or real fantasy is functionally the same
Only if you like one dimensional protagonists. It works for a comedy like KonoSuba because the protagonist just has to be funny, but anything that makes an attempt at being dramatic is pretty much going to be pegged as self-insert material when they do the game reincarnation gimmick.
Cause if you were to do straight fantasy you'd have to have a protagonist who grew up in that world and was already familiar with it and would be shaped by it. His perspective would be too alien to self-insert into for Japanese otaku. So instead you make the protagonist an ordinary young man from Japan who somehow winds up in that world and is totally new to everything. It's incredibly lazy and done purely to let readers self-insert.
>>140036797
The trend now is "(always male) MC reborn in another universe" no videogame, just genuine medieval+magic world.
Look how /a/ want inevitability of Mushoku Tensei Anime edition.
literally every single season I'm trapped in a world where I can't stop myself from watching bad anime
someone send help
>>140038520
"trapped in a game" has constant cringey pandering with shit like "XP" and "levels" and other crap.
>>140036797
I want you to think about this carefully
who read and watch it the most?
recall how many grimar and overlord thread you've seen this week. Yeah I wonder who is responsible for making these LN popular.
>>140038171
It's based on magic not games, they are "transported/reincarnated into another world".
>>140038701
this, the problem isn't really the shows, but the idiots who invested in them.
>>140038713
>It's based on magic not games
Yeah a setting that has characters fall into classic RPG classes like thieves, warriors, priests, and wizards where they pay to learn new skills, loot enemies, and explore dungeons where all the monsters in the area are of a single type. Totally doesn't resemble a game at all. Retard.
This is why i stick to reading manga.
Anime is a dead medium.
>>140038630
>Only if you like one dimensional protagonists.
Not at all, they are one dimensional characters because they are made for self inserting. It has nothing to do with how the world works.
>Cause if you were to do straight fantasy you'd have to have a protagonist who grew up in that world and was already familiar with it and would be shaped by it
Not true, you can straight fantasy where the protagonist didn't grow in the world. For example Precure this season, where you have witches but the mc wasn't a witch. You can also have a mmo-like world where the mc was born and was shaped by his mmo-like world.
>>140038713
And those worlds are basically just JRPGs brought to life. Grimgar even had to give its characters amnesia to prevent them from commenting on the obvious resemblance because it would ruin the atmosphere. Kazuma in KonoSuba fucking treated it exactly like a video game.
>>140038805
>>140038701
>recall how many grimar and overlord thread you've seen this week
Because anons make threads of that anime and YOU dont make threads of no-LN anime. Fuck, look how catalog have all those "I'm going to post this everyday until you like it" and "daily japanese " threads, and YOU dont make threads of no-ln animes
>>140039005
>implying that no-ln animes will atcually last for more than 30 replies
there are plenty of good potential thread, but most /a/ just choose to ignore them. Heck only once in a while you get only at least 2 to 3 threads that arent about "popular" anime with less shitpost . At this point it's futile since this board has always been that way.
>>140038468
>>140038460
THEY AREN'T TRAPPED IN A FUCKING GAME YOU STUPID MOTHER FUCKER JUST KILL YOURSELF IF YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THIS SIMPLE HOLY SHIT.
BEING SUMMONED OR REINCARNATED INTO GAME LIKE WORLD IS NOT THE SAME SHIT AS BEING TRAPPED IN A GAME WORLD.
>>140039377
isn't it close enough?
>>140039377
Zero no Tsukaima is a trapped in an mmo anime.
So?
There are MMORPGs out there that people have been playing for 10+ years. People in the demographic to which anime is marketed.
It's hardly the least original thing to ever have happened for this slavish audience.
>>140039448
Sure they might look the same but it isn't and lumping them together would be like using salt instead of sugar. They look similar but they aren't the same thing.
>>140039524
That's a backwards analogy, you autist. It's more like someone saying that brown sugar and white sugar are pretty much the same, since they are functionally equivalent in most situations, and then you start screeching about how they're a different color and therefore should never be lumped together.
>>140037059
.hack//sign was really probably the first big one that came along, but it was years prior and a much different approach that really more reflected the EQ/UO age of MMOs than modern ones.
Discussing this with the broad definitions of "trappen in MMO" and the isekai genre being mangled makes no sense.
For example this very thread had one anon complaining about things like XP, levels and other game mechanics existing which isnt even true for most isekai stuff.
>>140036797
>Not being mentally prepared for reincarnation plot along with manwha + chinese adaption wave in 2 years.
>>140038819
Smart move, you can only move deeper on the scale of things to notice trends. Generally it's LN>Manga>Anime, I've run out of manga to read recently which is a bit disconcerting, going through archives for the past year.
>>140036797
Anime is like Hollywood; since SAO was popular, everyone is playing follow the leader.
>>140036797
Is Japan on to something?
What do they know that we don't?
>>140041900
Someone post the webm of the virtual sex kit.
>>140036943
they don't sell huge numbers but for how cheap they are comparatively to churn out, they sell really well
especially konosuba, DEEN spent almost nothing on it, and it was a best seller last season
>>140042430
DEEN is always low budget though.
>>140037157
>>140036797
>Literally every season of western television has multiple sitcoms
>Literally every season of western television has multiple crime dramas
>Literally every season of western television has at least one capeshit
This is why you people are fucking retarded.
>>140043187
Atleast those shows look visually good unlike these low budget shit and the same damn actors consistently.
>>140043247
>I'd rather watch a pretty piece of garbage then a low-budget show with substance
Thanks for helping me prove my point about the whole retardation thing.
>>140041721
Poor excuse for copying when the concept reached even the western world over a decade ago in the form of .Hack
>>140043187
Theme ≠ genre
>>140037444
Yo, you mad as fuck
People in this thread are trying to differentiate "People transported to a fantasy world" and "People stuck in a video game".
But they're the same theme, with different approaches.
A video game world is just another type of fantasy world.
The reason Japanese authors are using RPG-like worlds, is because:
1. They can spend less time familiarizing people with a new world, if that world has very familiar concepts. (Why create new races of creatures, when you can just copy-and-paste elves and dwarves that every Japanese already knows about?)
2. Video Games are where most of the inspiration for these stories come from now a days anyways, so of course their end result is gonna come out looking a lot like one.
3. It's just popular to do so.
