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Why did this turn to haremshit after the first arc? Give me my seriousness from Orcus back.
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because it sucks
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>>139706181
The start was shit, but I liked it until they cleared the first dungeon and more and more girls kept being added.
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>>139705547
Story unorganized, harem shit pandering, terrible slice of life attempts, terrible character progression, uninteresting dialogue, hypocritical mc. It was never even proofread.
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>>139706752
I don't even know why the slice of life was there. I wanted Hajime to stay as grimdark edgy Naofumi but his character progression went in the opposite direction.
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>>139705547
At least the grills r cute

Also,
>reading Arifureta
why would you want to do this?
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>>139708399
Shameless rabbit only good for her tits. The only girl other than Yue I liked was Miledi.

Got interested in isekai stuff again after Re:Zero and didn't want something that had hardly anything translated. The reunion chapters were nice but after that I couldn't take it anymore.
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>>139708589
>Got interested in isekai stuff again after Re:Zero and didn't want something that had hardly anything translated
There are plenty of other Japanese and Chinese alternatives
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>>139708672
I've read some of the main ones like Shieldbro, Mushoku Tensei, Re:Monster, Kuro no Maou. Anything you'd recommend?
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>>139708752
Well, have you ever tried reading the Chinese stuff that's been translated? There's actually a shitload of reincarnation/spirited away to other world/vrmmorpg shit that's been TLed.

As for japanshit you've listed most of the main ones. The only one I can think of off the top of my head that you're missing is hachinan tte, but that one is sort of awful. And by sort of I mean very.

Kouritsu Kuriya Madoushi, Daini no Jinsei de Madou o Kiwameru is a rebirth, but there's only 20-30 chapters TLed and the TLer quit.
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>>139708929
>>139708752
Oh right, there's also Tsukuyote new saga, which is a rebirth. Can't think of any other nip stuff off the top of my head.
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>>139708929
>>139709128
I've seen some stuff on Wuxiaworld, what are the good ones?

Neither of those nip ones seem too great, but they can't end up worse than Arifureta.
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>>139709261
>I've seen some stuff on Wuxiaworld, what are the good ones?
What kind of stuff are you into? Right now I'm enjoying True Martial World on gravity translations but I've read most of what is available out there.

>but they can't end up worse than Arifureta.
Hachinan tte is much worse. Literally the worst WN i've ever read.
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>>139709394
Epic fantasies, good plot twists, suffering. Isekai isn't necessary if the story is good. Something like Mushoku Tensei I guess. Also lolis if possible.
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>>139709527
Best bet is probably true martial world.
A lot of people would recommend ISSTH on wuxiaworld, but I personally don't like it that much.
If you ask about a specific series I could probably tell you more about it. So far I'm familiar with:

Against the Gods
Wu Dong Qian Kun
Coiling Dragon
Battle through the heavens
Martial God Asura
The Great Ruler
Tales of demons and gods
God and Devil World
Apocalypse Cockroach
True martial world
Martial world
world of cultivation
I shall seal the heavens
demons diary
a record of a mortal's journey to immortality
zhan long
Upgrade specialist in a new world
Renegade Immortal
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>>139709716
I've heard of Coiling Dragon and Martial God Asura in passing. Are they worth the time investment?
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I wish there were some good translations after the first guy quit.
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>>139709817
CD is pretty nice initially, but then goes to crap about halfway through. Sort of like Arifureta.
I'd say it all goes downhill after he resolves all his conflicts on the Yulan continent and ascends to the next realm

Martial god asura is like the mcdonalds of the xianxia genre. It has a little bit of everything, not very good but still tasty from time to time.

If you're new to the genre you'd probably enjoy reading both, at least to the halfway point at least.

TMW is superior to both of the above though, and it's still going strong atm (~chapter 350)
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>>139710014
Will we ever get translations again
Is the WN complete already in nipland?
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>>139710079
I think it's complete.
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>>139705547
Why the hell does Nagumo want to return to nipland for when he could live like a magical emperor king in this new world?

I could imagine wanted to go back for a visit, but permanent relocation?

Why does Tio even exist in the story. Why the fuck doesn't he give shia the D?
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>>139710014
The first guy quit? I stopped reading at about chapter ~100.

>>139710023
I'll give TMW a go then, thanks. Which ones have the best lolis?
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>>139708752
Konjiki no Wordmaster is worth checking.
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>>139709716
Hey dont forget Duoluo Dalu or Long Live Summons that at least tries to give characterization to not-mc characters
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>>139710214
I liked Tio better than Shia actually. I was perfectly happy with Yue being the legal wife and how much they'd bonded and Shia turns up and spreads her legs instantly.
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So is RTD still translating kumo?
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>>139705547
>illust. Takayaki
Wow
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>>139710280
>Hey dont forget Duoluo Dalu or Long Live Summons that at least tries to give characterization to not-mc characters
I only listed the ones that I personally read.

The DD manhua gave me cancer so I don't evern plan to pick up any of his works.

>>139710219
>Which ones have the best lolis?
Lolis aren't very prolific in chinknovels, and when they do use the term loli, it usually just refers to a small teenage (14-16) yo girl.
The chinks seem to think that only when women are like 22-28 do they truly become beautiful. Why do they think this? Beats me.

Most of the stuff I listed has girls in the 14-17 yo age though
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>>139710236
>Konjiki no Wordmaster is worth checking.
Not much better than arifureta imo.

Less harem-esque, but more shitty typical shounen-y progressions. I think the TL for this is halted as well, no?
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>>139710528
>The DD manhua gave me cancer so I don't evern plan to pick up any of his works.

The chinese series manhua give everyone cancer, the story is nothing like it, you are probably missing out
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>>139710660
>The chinese series manhua give everyone cancer, the story is nothing like it, you are probably missing out
The endless tourney arcs + spirit food kills it for me. I'm assuming these are still in the novel, no?
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>>139705547
Who cares? People are mostly reading for cute and sexy vampire loli getting fucked every night, anyways.
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>>139711096
The only important spirit food is Oscar´s which is only a sausage(not other food variations just sausage), and there is only one big tourney which is pretty much in any other chinese story
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>>139711407
Okay, then what's good about DD that makes it stand above other stuff?
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>>139705547
>Expecting webnovels to not turn into shameless powerlevel crap with free harems for the MC.
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>>139711688
Character development I guess, there is set of characters aside the mc that get nice developments and their relationship goes further than just left behind in the story named characters
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>>139710585
Wrong, the TL restarted
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>>139712276
>Wrong, the TL restarted
Since when? I read the WN like 0.5-1 years ago.
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>>139705547
>after the first arc
The first arc itself pretty much implied it was going to be Haremshit. Why did you expect otherwise?
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>>139712320
From a long time
http://www.novelupdates.com/series/konjiki-no-moji-tsukai/
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>>139709716
Currently following Against the Gods, Tales of Demons and Gods.
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>>139710079
>>139710149
It's complete but the author is telling epilogue chapters like there was 5 years later story that was about Myuu meeting friends she had made over the internet.

There is some fun stuff in the epilogues like Endo's story about his relationship with one of the rabbit girls from Shia's tribe and overcoming an impossible task to be with her. He had to conquer one of the dungeons alone and fight Hajime and land a clean good blow against him.
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>>139711791
>>139712382
From the first arc I thought it'd be more of him eating all the demons he kills to power up and adventuring in dungeons, while being an edgy fuck to everyone but his vampire loli.
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>>139712441
ATG falls off after the dragon trial arc and turns to shit - which really disappoints me since it used to be my favorite.
TDG is tremendously mediocre.
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>>139709261
I'm reading The Experimental Log of the Crazy Lich, been great so far.
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>>139712382
Because they don't actually read the story, they just read what other people said about it and joined in the complaining. Just like all the people that thought it was a revenge story when Hajime never made any comments about wanting revenge.
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>>139711213
>cute and sexy vampire loli getting fucked every night
you have my attention
is this actually worth reading?
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>>139712591
He fucks the vampire loli behind the scenes, it's only implicitly mentioned most of the times it's mentioned.
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>>139710379
Yes but there's no new chapters so the translator has nothing to do.

>>139710341
Shia's development might have looked instant but it really lasted something like 60 or 70 chapters. She changed a lot from when she joined compared to how she was around the capital city arc. Tio got better too as she got more development like in the ice dungeon.
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>>139712591
That obvious doesn't happen in night literally. But, yeah but only for the vampire loli. The series have some merits like MC winning the best girl whom he waifu with enthusiasm, though there's still a harem and stuff. The concept is interesting too, but the execution gets pretty bad later on, like fanfic tier kind.
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>>139711213
>>139712591
>>139712667
Vampire loli ends up aged to looking 17 compared to her original 12-13 self during the final battle. Of course that's not really a big deal since even before final battle they got transformation magic and could change how they look but I believe it mentioned that she ended up sticking with the older looking body for the most part to look Hajime's age.
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>>139712791
Hopefully she reverts when it's bedtime.

Does he ever fuck Shia or Tio or Kaori or anyone else other than bat slut
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>>139712791
That better be bullshit or else dropped.
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>>139712745
Doesn't he end up fucking his entire harem by the end? After he spent pretty much all of the translated chapters talking about how he only loved Yue, if it's true it's a huge turn off.
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>>139712791
How disappointing.
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>>139712835
Some crazy shit happens before the final battle and Hajime decides to go full demon lord and he accepts the other girls that like him because of what happened there.

In the epilogue of the story he introduced his parents to his 8 wives. Yue, Shia, Tio, Kaori, Remia, Shizuku, Liliana, and Aiko.
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>>139712791
DROPPED.
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>>139712889
There was a decent reason for him accepting the rest of them. Shia got accepted beforehand though, he accepted her before the tree dungeon and they had sex after the tree dungeon.
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The first arc was pretty enjoyable but given how he got out of Orcus Dungeon OP as fuck I lost interest. Also that horrible FMP fumoffu rugby team reference. Holy hell.
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>>139713025
It was a sergeant hartman reference just like FMP was.
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>>139712961
>Shizuku, Aiko
My fucking sides. Blasted to orbit.

Who's Remia and Liliana? Yue is okay with this?
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>>139713076
Remia is the mermaid girl's mom and Liliana is the kingdom princess that he saved from marrying the emperor's son.
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>>139712791
>>139712961
>final battle
>epilogue
I think I stopped reading when Japtem stopped translating. How far am I from the final battle and epilogue?
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>>139713138
>Liliana is the kingdom princess that he saved from marrying the emperor's son.
As in the very first princess? The one from the kingdom that summoned him?
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>>139712961
>Remia
>Shizuku

That's not even trying any more, I guess it couldn't have been saved from haremshit ever since Shia appeared.

>>139713011
Go on, what's the reason?
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>>139705547
Did the author even have the MC meet his class again yet.

I stopped reading at the bunny girl arc because it was so far removed from everything else I had read.
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>>139713073
Oh boy, thanks for making me remember that. Gonna watch that shit again right now.
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>>139713191
Japtem wasn't translating it, just hosting it. Anyway lead up to final battle started chapter 154 and end of story / epilogue was 179. Since then there's been various epilogue chapters about various characters and what happened to them after the story and returning to Japan and stuff.

For example the hero idiot decided to stay in fantasy world to atone for being an idiot and ended up disappearing by being summoned to a different world.
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>>139713354
>lead up to final battle started chapter 154 and end of story / epilogue was 179
Wow, so aren't the current translations pretty close to finishing the story?
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>>139712791
>>139712889
>>139713011
>Aged up Yue
>Have MC fuck and wife the others girls despite thinking Yue is one and only for most of the story
This makes me sick.
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>>139713205
The God guy possessed Yue and took her body as its vessel. Then using Yue's body it trashed Hajime every which way using her spells just powered up to 11. Then it broke all his artifacts and left. Hajime ended up snapping pretty hard off the deep end and it was the combined effort of all the girls and Myuu that brought him back.

At that point he basically just didn't feel like keeping denying their feelings for him anymore. Yue was still the uncontested number 1 though.
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>>139713402
Not really? Last I looked translations were around 130 and had been stuck there for like 3 months and there's been like months between each release. Some RtD translator was looking at picking it up so maybe the story will finally get finished up.
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>>139705547
Volume 1 was good. The rest? Shit.
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>>139713658
Just 50 chapters. That's pretty close.
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>>139713566
This. I feel like I've been cucked, but I don't think that's the right term here.
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>>139713720
It's "close" but when you look at the non existent translation speed it's not close at all.
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>>139713686
You mean the Abyss chapters in Volume 1 were good. Everything before that was quite shit as well.
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>>139713686
>Volume 1 was good.
True, but that applies to any Yue centric volumes, really.
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Bad story. Pretty much an asspull how the Vampire Loli was introduced.

Some fodder were able to go down all the way to Dungeon Level 80 just to lock up a vampire loli yet the author never explained how the fuck did they modify someone else's dungeon that repairs itself after a while so some fodder modifying a dungeon to lock a loli up would eventually have the dungeon revert back to its original state and don't give me any bullshit how any fodder from Yue's time period had magic power capable of surpassing one of the World Heroes.

Author just wanted to force his shit loli vampire taste on the readers which he never stopped doing for the rest of the story.
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>>139713571
>The God guy possessed Yue and took her body as its vessel.
I hate this trope.
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All the characters are cheap ripoffs of characters from Mondaiji
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>>139714011
>shit loli vampire taste
>snit
Bad writing criticism is fair, but don't you dare talk shit about Yue, filthy pleb. She is literally perfection.
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>>139714011
He tried catering to all tastes too by having him fuck the rest of the harem.
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>>139714043
It's a pretty shitty trope true. Hajime was also a target though.
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>>139710611
That trickle between the legs
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>>139714885
The semenest demon.
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>>139715165
The volume 1 added side story is all about the month they spent living in Oscar's home at the bottom of Orcus. Kind of a frequent joke it mentions how Hajime tried to "win" in the "battles" against Yue but kept losing.
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>>139715592
Yue should have stayed his only lover, she's too perfect.
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>>139714199
That was a fucking mistake, if he sticked to the vampire loli maybe he would've gained another reader
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>>139705547
Well shit, I remember reading this series forfuckingever ago.

The first dungeon has a fantastic narrative and direction, it was satisfying.
But then the OP as fuck MC just steamrolls and collects girls.
Sure equally OP opponents are added later so there's a reason for drama to still exist, but it just quickly loses its charm when MC has access to pocket dimensions batman would be proud of.

I think I would have preferred MC gang turning into the "villains" of the story instead of the classmates reconciling.
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>>139716244
No use denying it. The author blew it by going harem route out of nowhere after having cleared Yue route for OTP.
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>>139716647
All the dungeons are pretty good. The author did a good job making them all pretty functionally different.
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Guys this is important, Did he bang the teacher?
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>>139716701
out of nowhere

That's my issue. Hajime spends so much of the novel rejecting everyone repeatedly and saying Yue is special and will be his only lover no matter what.

The implied sex and her special status kept me reading even though more and more girls appeared and the story wasn't as good as Vol 1 and his Vol 1 character development started unwinding.

Learning that the author will suddenly go harem end made me lose all interest in the story.
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>>139717154
Yes. He's done stuff with all of them, though for Aiko he waited until he was no longer her student.
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>>139717172
His volume 1 character development started unwinding because in volume 1 the main character had cracked and gone insane. His development in the further arcs was all about him re obtaining parts of his old humanity and not being so dependent mentally on Yue. Of course that didn't fair too well since when he lost her he still broke pretty damn gigantically.
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>>139716753
Orcus and Miledi were good. The volcano and underwater ones didn't seem threatening any more and a lot of the tension was lost because the harem members kept making passes at him.
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>>139717269
So much for "Yue is the only one for me"
Thank god i lost interest on it
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>>139708589
>arifureta
>re:0
you are not off to a good start anon
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>>139712791
>she ended up sticking with the older looking body
Well that was a fuck up
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>>139717457
Tree and Ice Dungeon were both good. Underwater one was good too at least in my opinion. I liked seeing the illusion past battles and stuff.
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>>139711213
yeah and that's also one of the reasons many other people have drop this shit half way
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>>139717564
Mushoku Tensei was my first. I know it's basically babby's first isekai but it was fun as hell.

I don't know why I don't mind the harem in that at all, but hate Arifureta for it.
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>>139717269
Wait. He tapped her as a loli, right?
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>>139717939
Aiko is a legal loli so yes.
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>>139717983
Aiko from LN art for relevance.
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>>139717667
That's the author fault for not sticking with Yue only. A lot fans felt like getting hit with a NTR truck because of it.
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>>139717821
>Mushoku Tensei
>fun
I tried to get into it but after the first arc (with roxy) the story got more and more boring and couldn't read through the adventurer arc.
it didn't help that the author's writing was particularly bad, even for a webnovel.

you might then like Gunota ga Mahou Sekai ni, it has a lot of similarities with mushoku tensei
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>>139718356
it's the author's fault for introducing vampire slut in the first place.
Things went downhill from there and mc changed from dark hero to tsundere hypocrite
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>>139718224
>Hajime ends up replacing the fake gods with his loli teacher as the new Goddess for the world
Honestly amuses me.
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>>139705547
>seriousness
Fuck me it was always trash to begin with anyway. Like unabashed trashy wish-fulfillment of the highest order.
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>>139718570
Bitter Yue hater detected.
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>>139705547
Author mentioned he never really had a plan beyond the first dungeon. He basically continued it based on what his fans wanted.
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>>139718405
I liked the later arcs a lot. Everything after the teleport labyrinth, especially the diary and stuff with Orsted was exciting.

>>139718776
Did his nip fans want NTR? He should have made a plan, the first dungeon was the best. It was the only one that seemed like it was designed to train challengers to get stronger with monsters getting tougher per level.

With the others (at least the ones I've read) you already had to be OP to survive.
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>>139718731
please don't get me wrong, I hate vampire as much has all the other harem girls. Reading the romance/harem parts was cringeworthy to say the least
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>>139718929
I don't think so? Talking about other story translations, I wish Bookworm translations were faster.
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>>139718972

>Hating the delicious loli vamp

Faggot
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I love the covers.
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>>139719247
Too bad.

>Bookworm
I like it quite a lot as well. At least it has a fixed release schedule so you know when to expect the next update.
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>>139719247
Is this the one with the librarian girl who reincarnates in a world with no books?

>>139718972
But Yue is clearly the best and the semenest out of them all.
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>>139719480
Yes.
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>>139719518
Looks cute. Too bad not much of it is translated.
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>>139719569
The story is all about suffering.
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>>139719659
I-it is? Go on.
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>>139718972
Your taste is bad and you should feel bad. That aside, you are clearly reading the wrong series. Arifureta was intended to have romance and harem elements from the start. It did fairly fine those fronts until the author screwed that up near the end.
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>>139708929
There's Sky World being TLed right now but I haven't read it. Premise sounded like Aincrad SAO
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>>139719438
>>139719247
What's good about it?
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>>139721057
So far it seems like it won't be pulling any bullshit like the MC suddenly inventing a printing press or some other shit.
It also focuses quite a lot on the hygiene standard from back then which the MC is slowly starting to fix in her household.
Books are too expensive to get for her. Damn, even a sheet of paper costs as much as her fathers whole monthly wage.
As I spoiled myself a bit with the manga raw, she's trying to make paper herself, but isn't really being successful.
Basically, it's cute and different.
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>>139721227
How lewd is it?
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>>139721271
I'd like to know too. For research purposes.
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>>139721271
>>139721529
Not lewd at all, MC is only 5-6 and the story doesn't really timeskip.
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>>139721671
>only 5-6
>only
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>>139719986
>It did fairly fine those fronts until the author screwed that up near the end.
>near the end
you are unsalvageable
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>expecting anything from Arifureta
I expected shit and I got shit. It was fun though.
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>>139722557
> Shit is now fun.
Bad taste is starting to become self aware.
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>>139721271
As lewd as it gets.
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>>139723544
L-lewd.
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>>139723670
If it helps, she also extremely sickly and comes down very often with a fever.
Like over here, finally she's able to write something, and, the weak constitution strikes.
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>>139723912
That's super cute!
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>>139722247
Chapter 18 is out.
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>>139723912
>weak constitution
It's a fatal illness.
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>Anime will come out sooner than WN will be fully translated
>Anime will be made by A1. And it will become generic fantasy harem without loli vampire sex.
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>>139705547
It was fun and obvious from the start, deal with it normalfag.
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>>139723333
Fun things are fun. You're watching anime so you should've been aware ages ago.
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>>139710236
It went to complete shit after the second or third timeskip.
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>>139725323
>Oh btw it's been a few months since last chapter and I've doubled my level
>Oh it's been 6 months since I last showed up and I'm now higher level than most people in the world
Just fucking stupid.
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>>139710236
> Hey, I'm so fucking edgy and badass that I barely interact with people!
> Hey, I want something in return and act like a total asshole with no development for 600 chapters and last arc I become a generic hero that sacrifices himself to fight against the final boss. While at that, I gained a loli harem!
Are you fucking serious? It is just as worse if not, more than Arifureta with it's ending.
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>>139726734
Yeah the final arc is fucking stupid in Wordmaster. Hiiro does a 180 in personality with no explanation or reason for why.
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>>139726839
He is not even a good example of an anti-hero. Fucking hell.
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>>139717821
Yea I feel ya. I generally dislike harem too but it didn't make me cringe in Mushoku Tensei. I feel as though despite some illogical stuff and decisions here and there.... the execution was just plain better there unlike the other series in the same genre.
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Im not satisfied with the summaries of chapters 93-99? and durasama hasnt updated anything in 4-5 months now so i havent bothered reading past it.
just give me those kaori chapters jeez
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>>139727177
Your face when reading Ultimate Antihero

The cast can surprisingly handle the banter.

Pretty fun reading old men getting angry at MC.

The girls are quite tolerable as well
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>>139728443
No, the harem execution was horrible in MT as well.

Eris turned shit tier after the harem and she was reduced to making a V shaped mouth for the rest of the story and just going Hmph with barely any dialogue that lasts more than two sentences afterwards.
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>>139712557
>1 chapter 10/10/15

stop it.
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>>139726839
he got royal loli pussy thrown at him and became pussy whipped.
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>>139724558

damn, bet she wishes she was a chinese protag instead of a japanese one.
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>>139730126
It's okay. The church helps with that. There's also BOOKS there.
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>>139729012
Antihero is fun in the way that the MC can honestly do whatever he wants. The only reason he doesn't just fuck shit up is because he doesn't want to bother the rest of the world
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>>139729080
Yea that was one of the aspects I really disliked about it. But how many series do you know that do the harem how MT does with wives, children, family. Basically a REAL harem and everything. I wish more authors grew balls and experimented like that, It was on one of the more unique takes on the genre I feel like. Despite what you said and I do agree with it, overall the execution was still much better than other harem series(talking only about japanese ones). Well I guess you could say it doesnt have much competition since there arent many real harem series like that. You know just your usual average highschool battle harems or arifureta tier cringefests, and then theres Re:Monster which is not even a story but terribly written diary.
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>>139732922
To be fair, MT had the advantage of being a story that spanned over 20 years. Most battle harems take place in highschool, where the idea of getting married and having kids isn't really valid. I did like what MT did though and agree that more authors should experiment

It's like asking why more romance series don't show the couple after highschool. The setting just doesn't allow it.
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>>139733328
A lot of reincarnation stories have the flaw that they usually skip huge portions of the characters new life or that they fill the characters life with training for the sake of training. To be fair to Rudy he had a reason he was training at least, that's not always there in reincarnation stories.

Can't remember the name of it but I tried some reincarnation story and the story basically in like a few chapters went from death -> reincarnation -> back to being a teenager like they were before they died. All I could think of was why bother even making a reincarnation story.
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Anyone else reading Kamigoroshi no Eiyuu to Nanatsu no Seiyaku?

I quite like it... for now.
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>>139733607
It's pretty good, the fact that all the girls want to fuck the MC is pretty damn annoying though. Even the Goddess though it's questionable how true that is.
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>>139733655
He has a reason, being the "dependable" alpha male and all. I don't see why the younger ones would fall for him.
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>>139733705
wouldn't*

Also, his bantz with his partner is pretty funny. A pretty great guy overall.
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>>139708752
I dropped everything you stated halfway so it might not be a good recommendation.

But Dragon Maken War has been a good read so far for me.
Another one on top of my head are Kamigoroshi no Eiyuu to Nanatsu no Seiyaku,
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>>139733928
Another one would be that adventurer with the abandoned demon kid
Its so cute
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>139733328
Right, I do see your point now that you brought that up. I guess it does depend on the setting and type of story you wanted to write from the very begining too.

Probably bringing in "foreign" elements to the story could actually make it worse if you dont know what you're doing. I also think thats the reason there are so many copy pasted series.
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>>139733655
>the fact that all the girls want to fuck the MC is pretty damn annoying though
this
i felt like the main character having a harem wouldn't really fit the story with his personality and thought that the goddess or elmenhilde or maybe any type of older woman to be exact to be the only ones that should be romantically interested in him
i kind of dropped it when it went into those harem hijinks chapters
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This actually got an LN? I read the WN a while back up to the volcano part fucking lava submarine, are you kidding me?
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Jesus people actually read Arifureta?
I remember a while back just the title alone in a WN thread would crap ton of reply saying it was shit...
response is now much milder
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>>139735306
Jesus that was just idk.....

I heard the original writing was pretty bad too from those who read it in jap. The Editor is probably doing gods work.
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>>139735517
If you see the quality of posts in these threads it should've been clear on why that's happening.
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>>139735517
It's not really that different from most of the other reincarnation haremshit. It's just slightly better. The MC reminds people of the MC from Kaze no Stigma, so that probably helps its popularity a bit.
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>>139735570
Thanks god, I'm not the only one who noticed this. I wonder where do they come from.
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>>139735592
KoS MC is hardly the same, he lacks the senseless edginess than Arifureta had
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>>139708399
Shia a kawaii

A KAWAIII
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>>139735784
Did you even read Kaze no Stigma? Kazuma's whole backstory was he was a peerless edgelord just like Nagumo after they killed his girlfriend; he acted pretty much the same way until he made his contract with the wind lord, after which he mellowed out a bit, then finally regained some normality once his brother and Ayano came into the picture.

In fact I am pretty sure the author received messages about it, since the only reason I made the connection at all was because he said something about it in one of the little "author notes" in one of the WN chapters.
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>>139735517
>I remember a while back just the title alone in a WN thread would crap ton of reply saying it was shit...
You mean autists spew random buzzwords?
>muh mary sue
>muh edgy
>muh bad writing
Arifureta delivers what i expect from it and really good for what it is.
No cockblocking, no retarded comedy, no crappy angst, no UST and violent readhead tsunderes and no pussy mc that must level up and defeat enemies with power of friendship and then lecture his enemies about living their life correctly instead of killing them etc. No other bullshit. Just adventures, sweet sol and lovemaking with blonde loli vampire.
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>>139735784
>senseless edginess
I enjoyed his edgy antics and his complex about looking like a chuuni. He seemed like an actual fourteen year old given way too much power for his own good to me. Lava submarine felt like a huge shark jump at first but then I remembered this was a guy who built a railgun in the first dungeon and shit didn't really tone down after that.
To me its basically ended up as was Tenchii would be if Ryoko was the MC and could pull Washu science-magic.
The whole Kouki/Kaori/Shizuku/Class et all sideplot felt like straight fanfic wish fulfillment for loner teenagers. I really tried to ignore it early on though, before it got too obvious, then I accepted it.
>>139735517
Like half the thread is negative replies about it and its just the OP image and several LN arts.
Anyone reading Arifureta knows its not World of Cultivation-tier or anything.
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>>139736030
it been a while since I read/watch the series , I could be blinded by Kazuma's swag of which I think was the most memorable thing about.

And again we were kinda told about his back story but it was hardly his actual character when we see him


>>139736206
well I dropped around the first time he re-unite with the teacher. I just found it boring because he pulling shit out of his ass and it seem like nothing will be a issue to him
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>>139712538
Yeah ATG is grinding my gears with the introduction of new girls since author removes a certain logical sense of his desires. He tries to make MC devoid of attachment but all MC thoughts dwell on over flowery description of beauty and he always performs the action to gain their favour.
It's obvious Chinese discrimination mentality since the author would never elaborate on it.
His adventure is great though, just his familial affairs are lack luster, and quite a few Chinese series fall into this trap.

Really he needs to lose another girl on his journey of strength to fix his attitude since any girl would eventually feel trapped in his harem.

It's cool when you acknowledge him as a cold blooded warlord, he lacks qualities of better written heroes out there.
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>>139709817
Never read Coiling Dragon but aware of many forum opinions being the same direction that it loses steam, read Desolate Era, same author and the story has similar elements but hasn't slowed down once.
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>>139736549
>Chinese discrimination mentality
What do you mean by this?
Haven't read AtG yet
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>>139719247
>tfw a loli rips your door off of its hinges
Rust is serious shit folks.
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>>139710280
>DD
Muh nig

I've heard of LLS, just need a few question
Is there romance like DD? When does the good part start? I drop it when the mc just keeps getting "low tiered shit summons but it's actually a legendary OP monster"
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>>139718405
MT gets better after the garbage RPG-101 in the desert segment.

GunOta is just garbage
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>>139705547
Basically, this is shit because it abandons its initial premise very quickly, which is the thing most people started reading it for.

That is to say, the mildly self-indulgent story of a guy who gets short-changed and abandoned in the Summoned To Another World With A Power stakes, then becomes an OP monster with gross-but-cool monster eating powers.

Instead, he becomes a beloved hero the instant he leaves the dungeon, the guy who killed him immediately becomes the slave of the actual villain rather than just being a Japanese-tier bully, the generic Good Guy stand-in hero turns out to be a possessive NTR moron (amazing), and random girls line up to slot themselves onto his dick with little to no development.

I rarely stop reading stories I've started, even when they become shit, but the moment I dropped Arifureta was when the MC tried playing the whole "Haha, I'll pretend to be a murderous bag of dicks so you can hate me instead of feeling sad", which made his loli teacher get super-wet for him because she immediately worked out the charade (via moon logic). It was trying to have its edgy cake and eat it to. You can be a hated villain who takes on the world's sins etc etc, /or/ you can be a beloved and compassionate hero who causes every female who meets him to soak their panties. Don't try to have your cake and eat it too, you just look retarded.

I appreciate that the guy didn't want revenge on his classmates (including the one who tried to murder him?), but why not make the vampire loli a cornerstone of the Demon King's barrier or whatever, so he becomes a monster fighting against the heroes to save her? Or something. Any kind of actual motivation.
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>>139734116
Do you know its title?
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My biggest concern with Arifureta is how utterly lazy the writing becomes. It's fine to decide MC can do literally everything, but the developments are handwaved and asspulled in a couple of lines and aren't really explored or justified, which breaks suspension of disbelief.

For example, one of the very first asspulls, the rail gun.

How did he start off designing it? What real revolver did he use as the model?

How did he decide on the optimum barrel length? Bullet shape and size? Quantity of gunpowder substitute? Rifling? Weight/power balance? Not told.

Were there any accidents or setbacks during the development and testing? We're not told.

Did he draw his design anywhere or was he relying entirely on memory to retain the whole design as it changed over time? We're not told!

The text heavily implies he never actually tested it against a monster, because the very next chapter the rabbit he kills is the first victim of the bullshit gun. How did he test his gun? How did he quantify the results so he could improve on previous revisions? We're not told.

How does he know that it's ten times stronger than an antimatter rifle? Has he ever fired an antimatter rifle?

In the span of one paragraph he just builds a gamebreaking gun with no justification.
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>>139738462
Then it worsens.


>By the way, I built this submarine earlier because we might have to go underwater someday.

>I've been working on it for quite a while, but you've never seen me work on it, I've never mentioned I was working on it, and the harem who is with me 24/7 never noticed I was working on it either.

>I've also never been near a large enough body of water to actually test it in, but I know it works perfectly.

>I never predicted we'd have to use it in magma, but I happened to make it tolerant of magma temperatures and magma pressures, instead of just watertight.

>None of this will ever be addressed. A single line is all that is needed to asspull this submarine into existence.
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>>139738462
>>139738570
Yep. Total bullshit.

I could forgive the sudden magitech being pulled out of his ass if the premise of the manga was that his craft-focused class was regarded as shit, but he ground it to ridiculous levels in the dungeon, picked up skill books from the dungeon makers, and combined it with modern-day scientific knowledge to become an OP fantasy Edison.

But
a) that's not the premise, he just... happens to be Tony Stark, somehow, on top of his monster-eating powers
b) if it were the premise, you'd expect enough focus being given to it that his creations were actually interesting and foreshadowed
c) if it were the premise, you'd expect the world to react to and mimic his creations rather than them just being an additional (unnecessary) excuse for him being broken.
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>>139738402
>abandons its initial premise

I guess this was my problem with it too. The first dungeon set up the mood for the rest of the series, but the demon eating is hardly mentioned again and the tone shifts completely to standard harem building and everyone around him sucking his dick. It would have been nice if he'd fought against the heroes, yeah.

Similar gripe with the harem itself. The indication for much of the series was that they would never take the harem too far, and that Yue was his one and only and he only held special feelings for her. It even became a running gag. They fuck regularly and while the other girls get jealous they seem to accept he's in a committed relationship. Suddenly at the end he fucks and wifes another 7 girls, including multiple classmates somehow and even his loli teacher.
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>>139738402
So much this. I don't know how I got through that cringy sensei part, but I do regret not dropping it earlier.

>>139735306
>>139738570
I've seen a lot of asspulls and I kinda don't mind them..... but come on.That was just retarded, or maybe the author was just thinking this at the time
>My reader is probably braindead for reading this anyway right? so hey why not?
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>>139710023
I read a bit of TMW. I'm not sure if it's a common thing in chinknovels, but do you know why there's so much sucking up and hierarchy? I get that not losing face and showing appropriate subservience is a thing, but it's taken to such extremes.
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>>139738462
>>139738570
>>139738696
>muh mary sue
>muh op character
C'mon stop it. Go read some asterisk or whatever.
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>>139738462
>How did he start off designing it? What real revolver did he use as the model?

How did he decide on the optimum barrel length? Bullet shape and size? Quantity of gunpowder substitute? Rifling? Weight/power balance? Not told.

>Were there any accidents or setbacks during the development and testing? We're not told.

And if you were told, you would cry that it's boring words words words.
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>>139737920
Magic continent was awesome, enrollment/magic school arc was the lowest and boring cliche it could go.
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>>139739410
It was nice when it was done in GunOta. At least shows the author knows absolutely nothing about guns but that they are cool, and actually helps develop the character a bit (through his decision making processes, how long he decides to work, how he copes with setbacks and people's reactions to setbacks such as blowing away his hand). That said, I'm mostly basing it off his very initial gun-making process, since it kind of felt like later gun development skipped most of the above.
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>>139739811
*shows the author knows more than absolutely nothing about guns other than that they are cool
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>>139739455
The school arcs were okay because of Bananahoshi. The story only really picked up during and after he went to save his mother.
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>>139738820
>filename

Just what I needed at 5am.
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>>139738820
>>139739955
>Street mage, Rigger, Samurai and Shaman.
>Samurai is worthless as usual.
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>>139740589
shaman is the best
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>>139741043
sauce please? reverse googling didn't work
also hooded blindfold-chan best
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>>139705547
isn't this the LN where the MC fucks the Main girl in the first volume?
that's based af
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>>139705547

>TakayaKi illustrations

Shit. I've lost count of how many shitty light novels to read now.
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>>139741461
Hints:
powerup by breast milk
maou childhood friend
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>>139741461
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I am annoyed when less insulting BS like Yuusha-party isnt being translated anymore
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>>139741461
コミュ難の俺が、交渉スキルに全振りして転生した結果
Use wayback machine to read the uncensored version. 2 3 months ago author was forced to censor stuff.
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>>139741694
>powerup by breast milk
is it this Communicationally Challenged
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best part of the whole novel is when nagumo pounded Tio's dragon ass with a pile bunker. i want to see that illustrated

>>139738820
he looks like a tryhard edgy. shittier than expected.
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>>139741694
Sweet breasts are those the illustrations from friggin Commushou?

Nice.
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>>139742025
It is only 275 yen on bookwalker if you are interested .
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>>139741915
the with mind controlling charm passive?
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>>139742355
Yes, that one.
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>>139742524
About that series, I'm still quite not well with that former slave and her daughter. The husband was a former slaver that saved and married her. But she hate him for his dirty past. He left to earn money for them and while he's gone, MC NTRed him, both wife and daughter.

Then twist, husband is evil and working with some devil.
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Anri-sama is cute! Cute!
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>>139742969
honestly, she looks like a guy....
i prefer cursed doll princess
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>>139743137
Go away, heretic.
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>>139743216
Heretics? WHERE?
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>>139742969
Would buy her autobiography if I money.
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>>139743730
would chain her bible
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>>139705547
>tag as harem
>bitch about the story turning to harem
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>>139743833
He fucks the loli vampire girl and starts a relationship with her, rejecting each new harem girl when they turn up for the majority of the story. I’m not pissed about the harem existing and being there, I’m pissed by how he does a 180 at the end and ends up fucking and marrying all 8 of them even though the story indicated otherwise.
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This thread needs more kumas.
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>>139722247
I WANT TO FUCK IRIS
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>>139744879
Iris is for economics, not for fucking.
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>>139745142
Screwing Iris on her work desk!
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Translation when?
She's even prostrating for you.
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>>139705547
It turned shit when the author made him get stats from eating monsters
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>>139729462
Did he tap the boypussy?
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>>139738820
>Normal japanese high school student
>Knows how to make guns, rifles, gatling guns, submarines, torpedos, etc

So who gave this the green light?
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>>139708752
right now the ones I really like are
sevens and tsuki ga michibiku
the others bellow are worth reading too
Kenja no mago, Death march, tensei slime, maken no day dreamer
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>>139746062
Web Novels have no barrier of entry, and in the wild they tend to gather a following.
Publishers decide to pick it up, because there's literally no way they can lose money on it, with a big enough following.
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>>139746062
>Normal japanese high school student
He is not Normal japanese high school student. He is magical synergist class hero.
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>>139746062
Well technical it is magic tool that design to look like modern weapon.
Hajime brute force any technical problem with magic.
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>>139745610
Did you buy it or get it from somewhere?
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>>139747199
I bought it. I can upload it if you want.
I have only the first volume and the BookWalker chapter that was bundled with it, though.
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>>139747456
No, just asking. I have both(both with the special stuff ). How do you rip those images in a so good way?
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>>139741043
>>139741762
where do you get this?

I only found the WN version
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>>139747884
Bookwalker, it is only like 250 yen .
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>>139747851
Created a custom screen resolution and took screen shots using Greenshot.
And since there were quite some JPEG artifacts because they were stingy when it came to this LN I ran waifu2x's noise removal at the lowest possible settings over it.
Result looks pretty good as you can see. No artifacts and no blur. It perfectly removed the artifacts only.
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>>139748046
>Greenshot
Ty anon. Will try it. Better than mobile's screenshots.
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>>139746062
It's basically "cuz magic ores" or "cuz age of gods magic" for most of those.
That and the monster transformation gave him direct mana manipulation which conveniently half of his harem has by being special snowflakes and some gain through more age of gods bullshittery and robot angel nun bodies and such.
That isn't even as bad as the literal doraemon shit, orbital cannon, cross bits from gundam, giant robot super sentai team, etc he makes later.
Its dumb fun and anyone who thinks its anything but that will get upset. Like that time early on when he's in the demihuman village and goes full edge and threatens to just start shooting the place up if they want to kill the rabbits and permanently injures a bearman to prove his point.
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>>139748131
You're welcome, just don't forget to set it to take screens in PNG or TIF to remove quality loss.
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>>139748233
I wonder if someone published western novels with anime style art and changed the names to japanese and made random characters bishoujous or lolis I would like them more.
Probably. anime rotted my brain I guess
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>>139748556
If they became lolis I would like them more, I won't lie.
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>>139748556
Sounds like CN novel adaptations to manhua.

I heard the Deltora Quest anime was shit.
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I guess i am supposed to repove the menu and white screen myself with imgur? Cause waifu2x didnt do it for me.
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