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Lise is a treasure to be cherished and protected.
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And Katia is a precious Imouto as well
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Katia is an imouto with grand dreams

Lise is an imouto with simple dreams
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>>139452289
>Assuming they could somehow finangle an excuse for it to make sense, Katia vs Beatrix would've made a better final battle than that. All Theo really did was fight Beatrix by proxy of Iris.

I'd rather have a verbal confrontation between Katia and Beatrix where they argue it out than a huge badass TSF battle.

Guess that means that SM must have some pretty great characters if I'd rather have a dialogue scene than a big action scene.
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>>139452710

Lise's theme song:

https://youtu.be/YIvpOIUqKKA
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>Lise side story from Schwarzesmarken Requiem vol 2

Lise was captured and gangraped by the Stasi.
She wanted to give her first time to her brother.
Axmann told that it was all recorded, and would be shown to her brother unless she does what they say.

She agrees. Axmann (The Stasi Armed Police Security Force "Grey Beast" as per chapter) was the one who broke her. He tells her after the first time "Don't worry, I won't be touching you. I'm a guy who likes cleanliness, and after your new friends had fun with you, you're filthy."

She undergoes training to be a fem-fatal sleeper operative, getting her body used to get information for the Stasi. She also ends up being the secret mistress for the Security Force.

So with Imouto already undergoing training, if they took in Theodore as well, there would be a risk of them meeting, thus spoiling the plan to use Lise. They let him run loose to have a hold on Lise. Not to mention that if Oni-chan knew Lise was in with the Stasi, he would know who screwed him over as well, since he always thought she was dead.

She believes Axmann planned to us her that way from the start.
Constantly crying for Oni-san to save her when she is alone, but knows her body is too defiled already, having lost count of how many had had her.

Theodore managed to join the army after getting tortured, the NVA and Stasi are political rivals, so they couldn't really touch him without an excuse. That's why they had to send Lise in to get Irisdine.

After the events in Schwarze with Irisdine getting captured, she is blindfolded in Theodor's arms, apparently before her execution at his hands.

Thank you, relvierting, for all the translation work you are helping us with!
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There really isn't much left for a new thread. Maybe when the next muv luv related update comes out but the constant threads are ending with the show.
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I'm wondering which girl's fanbase will endure the ravages of time the best. My guess is the Lise, Katia, and Beatrix fags (especially with BiS still going on).
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>>139453352
Beatrixposting has been a thing all the way back since 2011-12. She ain't going anywhere soon.
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>>139453233

Maybe, but there was a surge of activity in the last thread after it hit 500. 626 posts total is nothing to sniff at. That's 125 posts after autosage, which demonstrates demand exists.
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>>139453352
>thinking I'll ever abandon Katia
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>Lise end - Schwarzesmarken - vol.5 - Anime - Episodes 9 and 10

All the 666 squadron gets arrested by the stasi, except for Theo and Katia who manages to escape, along with Gretel who I think was in Berlin at the time. Theo's Mig 21 get shot down during the escape, and then he along with Katia wander in a forest until Gretel finds them along with the rebels. They move to the rebels headquarters and meet General Heim, the leader there. After this Theo goes to rescue the members of the squadron after getting information about were they were held. He finds everyone there except for Irisdina, whose whereabouts is unknown at the time. Even though he made it in time before the stasi killed anyone of the squadron, they were all exhausted from torture; Walter had his bones freakin folded, and pham lost all her back tooth. After freeing them, they start escaping, but Lise finds them and tries to stop them, were after Theodore engages her in a fight. In this fight, Pham tries to make the siblings stop fighting, however apparently Lise gets annoyed by this, and her response was shooting her with a 36mm round, which blew the upper half of Pham's body. At the end, theodore successfully defeats Lise in his Mig-21, and she is then taken in by the rebels.

They go back to the base and start questioning Lise, which then leads to the rebels asking Theodore to execute Lise himself.
A bound Lise was ranting about how Theodor should go over to the dark side, in a room filled with other people of the rebellion. Theodor finally accepted that she was too broken and twisted, and after hugging her, put his gun to her head, and squeezed...
Her last words when she was temporally in a lucid state of mind, were "Therefore, forget me... Absolutely, do not remember me. Because this dog of the Stasi, does not exist..."

Meanwhile katia was headed to were the execution was to try and stop it, but was too late as she heard the gunshot from a distance, at which she crumbled to the ground.
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I really like this new Beato-san fan art!
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>>139453233
There is enough demand anon!

As long as us Beatobros and Lisefags are able to shit post together then we are golden!
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>>139453352
As long as there is a thread anon I will Beato-san post!
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>>139452537

Lise is lower than your hentai NTR heroine.
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>>139454484
>>139454559
But a little time away can't hurt, its not like their isn't new SM content in the pipeline among other stuff. I think a breath of fresh air after months of constant threads might do you a world of good.
I mean what else is there right now besides >>139454606
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>>139454210
>tfw this will be the most fanart SM will ever get
>tfw still no well drawn none Iris doujins
>tfw no Jilpoong or LeyMei to participate in SM
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>>139454665
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>>139454777
Pretty nice Iris except for the nose.

>>139454774
I wonder if they're going to make her do this in the VN.

>>139454746
Why was she so upset by what Iris said? You'd think she'd just brush it off but she was clearly moved.

>>139452767
Schwarzesmarken is one of those shows that I think would've benefited from a final dialogue more than a battle. The fight between the ideals of Iris-Beatrix-Katia is far more interesting than any mech based shit. The mech based shit is secondary in my mind.
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>>139454665
Noooooooooooooo anon! Where will I go now?

I literally only browse 4chan for this thread and /k/.

Plus I will miss posters like you ;_;
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>>139454746
>used to be a Vocaloid fag
>that steady stream of solid fanart daily
>get into SM and it is a fucking desert
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>>139455152

Strike Witches still gets ten times the material per day that Schwarzesmarken gets even while it was airing.

>if only Null and Em would start starting Lise
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>>139454746
>that feeling when pretty much all Lise doujins will be with faceless Stasi officers and no vanilla stuff with Theo and a happy ending
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So what would you guy's reaction be if they announced a BiS OVA down the line?

Catch is, Wantanabe is doing the directing.
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>>139455289
Why isn't SM more popular? Not pedo enough? Too deep?
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>>139455319
>tfw the first BiS CG set stars Jurgen and... LISE

Fuck you to Japan.
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>>139455410
It produces RAGE, and not the good type that the trilogy produced.
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>>139455410

Honestly, it's probably because KanColle exists.
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>>139455417
Of all character combinations that one was one of the most out of the blue.
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>>139455042
Delusional fanboys who take immense pride in being fucked in the ass with waifufag pandering.
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>>139455417
I just don't understand why someone thought that was a good idea
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>>139455562
>boatsluts

Is this shit still a thing?
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>>139455562
Yeah, Kancolle kind of fucks with the supply of smaller series.
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>>139455349
never.
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>>139455410
It's really depressing and all the suffering it puts the characters and audience through doesn't really have a payoff (unless you're a Katiafag, but she didn't suffer enough for her happiness if you ask me). Artist don't really like to draw things that make them sad for the most part. See all the art that Total Eclipse still gets vs Schwarzesmarken.
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>>139455828
>>139455484
I think one of the problems was the ending. Everyone knows that the Oder-Neisse is going to fall because of the mass evacuation. The final half of the final volume was considered a wash, mostly because the resolutions to Iris, Theo, Beatrix, Katia, and Axmann's arc was a huge letdown. The heroes also never refute the villains properly, so you have the highly charismatic Beatrix monologue about her plans and ideals while Theo just responds with "Nuh-uh, I'm going to kill you, that'll prove my point" and then he kills her and it proves nothing. It's why so many Japs still think that Beatrix's Germany<World ideals are better.

The whole thing reeks of irony, and not necessarily the good, self-aware type.
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>>139455828
>No payoff
I think thats it. I couldn't quite describe why it felt so unsatisfying at the end. >>139456214
That does it pretty good.
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>>139455828
>didn't suffer enough
Let us dispel this fiction that Katia wasn't the one who suffered the most
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>>139456349
>that look of pure horror.

Cuck-a-doodledo!
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>>139455772
Some needs to rape it to death.
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She wants it.
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>>139455772
>>139455783

Yeah. I get it though, for an artist or doujin writer it's the perfect series, you get a character design with a basic personality outline and you can go crazy with it.

SM has a lot fewer characters, and the ones they do have are more interesting for their personalities than their rather basic appearances.

Also because KC is s browser game, people essentially live with their favorite characters. From a merchandising/cross promotional standpoint, it's the perfect series. Doesn't matter if the anime sucked because the anime never mattered to begin with.
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>>139456214
>the resolutions to ... Axmann's arc was a huge letdown
People wanted a resolution to Axmann's arc?
Axmann had an arc?
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>>139456214
>so you have the highly charismatic Beatrix monologue about her plans and ideals
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>>139455104
Well what would Beato want you to do
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>>139456764
I-I have no idea anon. I only ever thought about Beato-san if I was her husband and her lover.

What would Beato-san want me to do?
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>>139456840
Let go. Taking a break is a good thing.
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>>139452767
The deck is too stacked in Katia's favor from a moral and logical standpoint (Taking your awful life out on the citizenry isn't right, and having the West assist in the evacuation and defense makes sense), and Beatrix isn't collected enough to handle her. Maybe she didn't order it, but she definitely didn't stomp in to stop the Stasi's 'interrogation' of Katia in Fort Neunhagen, and she did go after her when she managed to escape.

I agree it'd probably be interesting, but I'm not exactly sure how long Beatrix could last before pulling a Theo on her, and I don't mean headpats and hugs.
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>>139456840
ayyyy c'mon thats not the Beatofag I know. Chin up fucker nothings over yet but a little hibernation between releases of content is healthy
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>>139456923
All you'd have to do is bring up the enormous cost and wastes of running a perfect surveillance state/totalitarian society. It's really difficult to do.

Apart from that, if I wanted to make it more animu, I'd have Katia or Theo talk about hope and why it isn't a good idea to deprive people of it. Morale is fucking huge when it comes to wars. If people feel like cornered animals, than people are going to do stupid, nonproductive things. Of course, Beato would then bring up how terror can accomplish that and then all Theo would have to do is say, well look at what terror has gotten us so far as he flashes back to everything the stasi/rebels have done. For an added bonus, Theo could then tie it back to Beatrix by saying that her major problem is that she doesn't have any hope left in her heart.

Then you'd cue the TSF battle with Beatrix flying off the hinge and possible penetration afterwards. It'd make for a more powerful statement, establish what the characters stand for, and add a much needed deeper layer to the final fight. Unfortunately, it would require a thoughtful, intelligent, and empathetic main character which Theo is not. He's reactionary, incurious, and emotional, which I generally don't like in main protagonists. You'd also have to build up Theodor vs Beatrix, which never really happened. Beatrix never advanced past being a crazy jealous stasi woman and Theo was never anything to Beatrix except for whatever his stasi profile said, and later on, being Lise's killer.

This could all just be resolved by making Iris and Beatrix be the final fight though.
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戦術機の戦闘を編み出したのがアイリスの兄貴でベアトリスクの彼氏のユルゲンな。二人ともユルゲンの意志を継いで闘ってたんだが、結局二人は道を違えることになった。アイリスは民衆を救いたいというのが基本で、ベアトリスクはベータを倒すことが最終目標だった。実は兄貴の考えはベアトリスクに近いんだよな。アイリスはホンマは天使のような心根の持ち主だから、情緒的な思いだけで行動してて、人情でなんとかなるだろうぐらいの考えでしかない。
これを踏まえて、テオドールがアイリスの思いを継いだとしても、行き詰まるのがわかるわな。

Beatrix's boyfriend and Iris's brother, Jurgen helped create TSFs/ tactics they used. Both [his precious people] follow in his footsteps, but still find themselves on different roads.
Iris wished to save the populace [of East Germany] while Beatrix's ultimate ends was always defeating the BETA. To tell the truth, [Jurgen's] ideals were closer to Beatrix's. Iris was like an angel but acted off of emotions and did not give a thought to what would become of humanity.
With that it mind, it's clear that even though Iris's ideals are in Theo's hands, these ideals will reach their limits/bog things down.
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>>139457704
>, and later on, being Lise's killer.
I don't think she ever even knew he killed Lise.

>Unfortunately, it would require a thoughtful, intelligent, and empathetic main character which Theo is not. He's reactionary, incurious, and emotional, which I generally don't like in main protagonists.
That's what I like about Theo, though. He's a total jerk who's rather easily manipulated.

>This could all just be resolved by making Iris and Beatrix be the final fight though.
I'm not really sure, Iris and Beatrix are more zealous and refuse to consider alternatives. Like Iris telling Katia off when she talks about the West, and Katia later has to save her by calling in help from the West. Iris doesn't talk back to Beatrix like Katia or even Walter does, all she does is taunt her and try to make her mad. They'd probably just yell at each other and generally have a smug-off.
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>>139456879
Yeah I was afraid of hearing that. I had a lot of fun from these threads and they really reminded me of an older 4chan...

Anyway not to turn this into a personal blog but I was always a /k/ommando and I finally decided to join my countries' airforce as officer as all I ever do is read about /k/ shit and watch /k/ related shit.

The joke is that they really wanted me to be a pilot but I am going in as an intelligence officer.
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>>139457920
>They'd probably just yell at each other and generally have a smug-off.
With all the build up the story gives them and their shared history, that would be far more interesting than Theo fighting Beatrix.

Also, who doesn't want to see a smug-off between Beatrix and Irisdina.
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>>139457930
I was Radio/Satcom in my Air Force for 4 years. Got out when they started expecting me to supervise others. The ironic thing is, I got over my people problems a year afterwards and now I've ended up enjoying playing a leadership role.
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>>139458188
I want more smug Katia. She was smug all of once when she stabbed Theo in his most emotionally sensitive point, and then after she found out how much that was hurting him, she never came back.
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>>139458274
>She was smug all of once when she stabbed Theo in his most emotionally sensitive point
Well Katia is supposedly similar to what Beatrix was like before the stasi.
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Who //NVA/ here?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
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>>139458485
Mobile Field Bakery ready for duty!
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>>139458270
I feel you.

I am joining the air force as my countries economy shit the bed and I want to escape my city as everything is slowly going to shit and I don't want to be part of it in five years.

Also I have been doing the white collar thing since I was 15 and I am sick and tired of it as I want some adventure and experience in my life.

Plus they already agreed to pay for my further education if I so wish.
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>>139458581
Noice
The best chocolate milk I ever drank was from a field kitchen
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>>139458673
Tell me more anon
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>>139452814
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4RjJKxsamQ
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>>139455349
More Beatrix is never a bad thing, and I don't think Watanabe would be able to screw BiS up that badly considering there's no love real love triangles or anything.
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>>139458776
>cold and cloudy late May
>army expo
>field kitchen gives away chocolate milk
It was comfy as fuck
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So anons is this it? Is this the end?
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>>139459509
No

PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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>>139459537
Left or right?
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>>139459509
Yes. The only things left now are /k/posterse clinging to the times that once were. Just go to /ak/ or something. I implore you guys, please, let this thread rest in peace.
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>>139459594
Both
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So will you guys all still be around for the one or two threads that pop up when Martyrs is released this Winter? Will anyone on /a/ still remember Schwarzesmarken?

Will there still be Katiafags doing there PSAs, the writefags doing their ballcrusher fics, and Beatrixfags crying over their tragic waifu?

Only 16 of us remain now. That last thread with over 600 posts was likely our last hurrah.

I feel as if this is an ending of sorts. I can feel it in my oldfag bones. Sunday will likely be the last time we'll see a Schwarzesmarken thread of significance for a very long time on /a/.

But I had fun. I had a lot of fun. I had so much fun that I nearly fucked over my grades in college (partially because of this red eyed minx). SM lit a fire in me that I hadn't felt since I was a teenager. I felt like writing bad fanfiction and I fantasized that my pillow was a 2D anime girl. It felt like I was finally back home in a way, back to '06 4chan. Listen to me getting nostalgic. You guys were great, but the bitter-sweetness of greatness is it is always finite. Nothing gold can stay after-all.
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>>139459623
>tfw I was working and I came back and I saw that I missed the last active/lively SM thread.

JUST
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>>139459509
Things are gonna go back to the way they were before the SM anime, muv-luv threads will still be around on /a/ every once in a while but unless another anime is announced then /m/ and the /vg/ VN threads are gonna be pretty much it. Mabye an occasional SM thread on /a/
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xpp208_pink-floyd-the-final-cut-film-complete-1983_music

Official Schwarzesmarken soundtrack by Roger Waters of Pink Floyd is THE soundtrack, comrades.

Also, commissar Gretel is alive and rocking to the latest Puhdy`s album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxITXgetyQw
and to some rock classics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lt6ZtGpSH4g
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>>139459666
We all know that the end is right infront of us. We are just denying it.

Also im sure some are sleeping right now.
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>>139459666
I'll certainly be around for the Martyrs threads, but like >>139459689 says, /a/ won't be the place for that. /m/ and /vg/ will be the premiere stomping grounds.
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>>139459784
>going to /vg/
pls no
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>>139459666
>666
Holy fuck anon! Good job!

>But I had fun. I had a lot of fun. I had so much fun that I nearly fucked over my grades in college (partially because of this red eyed minx). SM lit a fire in me that I hadn't felt since I was a teenager. I felt like writing bad fanfiction and I fantasized that my pillow was a 2D anime girl. It felt like I was finally back home in a way, back to '06 4chan. Listen to me getting nostalgic. You guys were great, but the bitter-sweetness of greatness is it is always finite. Nothing gold can stay after-all.

You completely described my experience with SM. I started browsing 4chan in 2008 and these threads were some of the most fun I have had since 2010ish. I remember rushing home from work and hoping onto these threads first thing to post Beato-san and enjoy my hanging out with some cool people. The other thing is that I actually enjoyed dreaming and thinking about Beato-san as it has been a long time since I actually became obsessed with a 2D girl.

I know this is faggy but do people want to share skype information or anything else so we can stay in touch?
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>>139459666
>I nearly fucked over my grades in college
I failed a class because the SM VN came out
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>>139459666
>Nothing gold can stay after-all
Funnily enough Gold was valued specifically because it remained gold.
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>>139460081
Googling it, it's an allusion to some poetry about how everything fades. Looks like 666 anon is well read.
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>>139459666
>doing there PSA
As much as I would like to /m/ is much too slow for me and once the SM threads popped up here I immediately switched
Well maybe the slowness will give me more time to prepare posters and other stuff
I also heard they didn't like VN/LN fags and ran them out and considering I'm one of them...
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>>139460162
Yeah I guessed as much, no one uses 'after-all' with the hyphen.
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>>139460229
Yeah, /m/ threads are too slow
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>>139459666
m8 are you trying to make me cry?
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>>139459666
Thanks satan, these threads were a lot of fun. Even though going back through the archive I can't imagine why I already feel this nostalgic about it all. Best girl got shit on so much but thats okay, considering the way she was presented I can't blame people for having the knee jerk reaction at the time that they did. There was a lot of crap but the good made it all worth it. And theres always the alternate VN ends and extra to look forward to.
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>>139460415
>Best girl
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>>139460415
inb4 Lise's route ends in her dying anyway
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>>139459666
>So will you guys all still be around for the one or two threads that pop up when Martyrs is released this Winter?
Can someone please fill me in what Martyrs is?
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>>139460584
The 2nd SM VN
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>17 unique IPs
Well I guess we've made it, we're finally at the point where it's an official circlejerk
love you guys
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>>139460536
Thats right.

>>139460539
That might kill me.

>>139460601
love you too
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>>139460601
People are sleeping.
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>>139460601
>>139460626

me too

no homo
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So when does this faggy formatting bullshit leave? An hour or so?
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>>139460663
never
embrace material design
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>>139460663
Soon
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>>139460663
>Never
>Jap Moot dont know how to turn it off.
>Or google actually bought 4chan.
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>>139460626
Even worse, inb4 Lise's route ends in her giving her blessing to Katia / Iris / whoever the fuck Theodosius Faggotus Densitus Maximus ends up with and goes back to Axmann to live out the rest of her life as cocksleeve #1
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>>139460707
>Or google actually bought 4chan.
Mandatory giggle account when
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>>139460229
I always took it as jealousy. /m/ resented the LN/VNfags leaving for /a/.

They also had a bad experience with two to three LNfags using their threads as an arguing ground throughout the middle to latter days of 2015 and throwing out all sorts of spoilers. Funny thing was, most everyone thought that they were all bullshitting us but everything they said about Suzy Zap (what a ridiculous name!) and Beatrix's goals (you mean she's actually not a sadistic lesbian and is doing things to help humanity) turned out to be right on.
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>>139460601
I'M HELPING!
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>>139460229
nah, that's only one autistic dweeb.
everyone else probably doesn't care.
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>>139460783
also the mechas are the weakest part of SM
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>>139460869
>mechas are the weakest part of SM
I thought the whole setting is weak.
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Seriously why what made these threads memorable? All the OC and writefaggotry? The juxtaposition between LNfags and anime only viewers? hairtwirl.gif? Was the show actually good?

>>139460734
She would suicide before that happens. Or kill everyone and then suicide.
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>>139460783
>you will never be Jurgen
>you will never be Jurgen and live
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>>139460925
I love anything to do with the cold war, even if its an alternate history type deal.
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>>139460925
But for going to the /m/ thread

they all rook same, they don't represent the planes they are supposed to be based off etc
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>>139460925
It's the only reason I bought the game and I was not dissapointed
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>>139460931
the NVA/pactposting
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>>139460931
>Seriously why what made these threads memorable? All the OC and writefaggotry? The juxtaposition between LNfags and anime only viewers? hairtwirl.gif? Was the show actually good?

I have no idea anon but it felt like old 4chan.
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>>139460978
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>>139460970
Pretty bad desu senpai

>>139461023
Glad to hear that
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I'm going to miss you guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2atlpj7AGXU
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>>139461027
Raptor-san a best girl.
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>>139461117
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8vuSlkgtU8

It is all over now.

Time to die.
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>posting best girls.

>>139461117
Don't cry because it is over but cry because it happened!
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I'll definitely miss ost-posting.
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>>139461117
See ya again some other time... << buddy >>

<< This is Schwarz-01, signing off >>
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>>139460931
Probably because there weren't that many people in the threads so it became comfy.
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>>139461327
Annette Akbar.
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>>139460931
The rage from all the potential the show squandered fed into a sort of frantic, contagious energy. If Schwarzesmarken had simply been bad, then everyone would've dropped it, but instead, SM only got better as time went on. And yet, despite everything it was still a shit adaptation and it was obvious to everyone. It sets the mind thinking what could've been, what should've been, and all that had been lost. Hence all the original content we got from writefags and shoopers, which created a sense of culture and loyalty, keeping people invested in these threads. The lost opportunities this anime presented also fed into controversy, and if there is one constant about humanity, it is that we are drawn to conflict and find our true selves in it (notice how we reached our zenith of momentum right after Lise died).

At least, that's my personal theory.

That and Beatrix is fucking amazing.
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>>139461395
GLORIOUS T-64B FROM THE 3RD SOVIET SHOCK ARMY WILL REMOVE THE BETA
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>>139461529
>That and Beatrix is fucking amazing.
What will happen to us Beatofags anon?

A-are you going to forget about her by November?
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>>139461616
m8 if you forget about your waifu in half a year she probably was never your waifu
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>>139461529
>That and Beatrix is fucking amazing.

If you are a big guy in a plane yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhPVMQz1Acw

Literally no survivors


I agree with that theory
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>>139461616
I have been waifuing Beatrix since 2012. Don't you even dare imply that I'll forget her.
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>>139461667
>mfw the fatspurdo says nothing ridiculous or laughable besides the last line
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>>139461327
Never
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x2E3YRovNI
>>139461346
Got you covered
>>139461400
<<Schwarz-4,will stay to the end >>
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>>139461699
>>139461637
>tfw making a Beatrix tulpa.

Wish me luck lads. I hope I never become rich and famous and the secret gets out that Beato-san and Lise did nothing wrong!
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>>139461821
The fuck is a tulpa?
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>>139461821
>beatrix tupla

panic
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>>139461821
>Beatrix tulpa.
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>>139461821
>Beatrix tulpa.
Using her BiS personality or SM personality.

>>139461843
It's next level waifuing.
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>>139461821
Good luck you fucking lunatic.

>>139461699
How'd it feel at first, what told you she was a keeper?
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>NVA man dont know who you are
Feels good.
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>>139461699
>I have been waifuing Beatrix since 2012.

So are Beatrixfags like the oldest SMfags, cause I notice that they usually go way back? I even saw some archived comments from 2011 of people waifuing her.
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>>139461894
SM of course!
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>>139461845
>>139461876
>>139461951
You guys think I was joking when I said I was going to marry her?

I'll let you know by November how it is working out...
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>>139462177
I fucking love you

I will remember this and you better deliver in november.
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>>139462177
God damn Sergio
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>>139457704
>Theodor

You can't self insert as him, since he's not a one-dimensional/wish-fulfilment beta faggot, And definitely not pandering with him being good looking with a real human being having failures and successes, being inconstant, confused, selfish, contradictory, inconsistent and complex, and like all humans, he fails and makes mistakes.

He's very different and clearly not the same as those beta faggots MCs found in Light Novels, Mangas, Visual Novels and Animes where the MC got a good looks, a calculating mind, thoughtful, intelligent, empathetic, sense of humor and a cool guy.

Definitely a NON-wish-fulfilment, and not pandering, and cannot be self inserted, since he's not a beta faggot (based on /a/, shounentards or shoujofags said).

Much refreshing for you who hates all those beta faggots MCs found in Light Novels, Mangas, Visual Novels and Animes or forced drama, triangle love, romcom, SOL, shounen, shoujo, harem, ecchi and chinese cartoon.
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>>139462295
Do we even have a release date for the next SM VN? And where are we going to meet again?
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>>139462376
no specific release date
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>>139462177
You better invite us to the wedding
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So here's something interesting. I was reading a Jap article, and they said that just like Jurgen Bernhard is based off of Erich Hartmann, that Axmann is based off of Reinhard Heydrich. They even have the same nicknames. Axmann is called the "Brown Beast" by Beatrix to express her contempt of him, just like the SS under Heydrich called him the "Blonde Beast" because of his monstrosity.

Heydrich was believed to have drafted up plans for the holocaust, not for any ideological reasons, but just because he was using it as a tool to gain more power. Describes Axmann to a T.
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>>139462428
Marseille as a TSF pilot when
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http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/character10.html
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>>139462355
>Definitely a NON-wish-fulfilment, and not pandering, and cannot be self inserted, since he's not a beta faggot (based on /a/, shounentards or shoujofags said).

OH MY GOD!! ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!
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>>139462598

Link:http://www.age-soft.co.jp/Product/sm/wac/index.htm?process=7&escurl=../character10_esc.html


>Form A:

Just because we're wearing the same East German uniform doesn't change anything.


>Form B:

My Stasi fortified suit looks good, doesn't it?


>Sideburns:

My hair's long? What about it?

It's disgusting to be even complimented by you.


>Eyes:

Did you think that you could deceive my eyes?

There is always somebody in this country that watches over you.


>Lips:

I dislike talkative men.

Did you think that I suck on blood?


>Face:

Do you have business with me?

(giggles)


>Hair:

Can you stop touching me?

Ara, is it over already? How sad.


>Hands:

Do you want to shake hands with me? Do you still want to, even though these hands have been smeared in blood?

You want to savor the sensation of my fingers on your throat, don't you?


>Neck:

Whose neck did you think you were holding? You bastard.

You'll experience happiness by becoming entangled by my chain.


>Stomach:

(Ara ara ... Ara ara)

Do you want to embrace me?


>Legs:

You're only looking at my legs, huh?

You look like an idiot who can't control his urges.


>Legs:

Did you want to kneel?

I don't intend on accommodating any of your fetishes.


>Breasts:

So you like the feel of my breast; you know, Stasi women hide cameras in there brassiers.

Do you want to play with me, or do you want me to play with you?


>Crotch

[Angry/Intimidating laughter]

I'm going to make you squeal like a pig.
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>>139461529
>>139461026


I agree with you on all points. I don't think I've had this much fun since Cross Ange, and they were very different experiences. They were similar because they were character driven shows with lots of potential, a bit of controversy, and an execution that didn't meet the potential. They were different because cross Ange was an anime original, while this was a bad adaption of what I understand was a good series. I don't think I've ever been drawn to a character quite the same way I was drawn to Lise, and knowing it was all for nothing just made me want her more.

I did a lot of short stories just because I wanted to create these little pictures of how the characters could have been after the show, they changed to mostly happy endings when I just couldn't take the sadness anymore. But writefagging was a new thing for me, I've never really been presented with characters I wanted to have living in my mind the easy the characters from this show do now. Seeing other people like insane asylum guy and ballcrusher beato guy get good reception told me I could share it and be appreciated. So, thanks, guys.
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>>139462977
I just like seeing horrible things happening to cute girls, and then seeing them healed one way or another, its cathartic.
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>>139462977
>I agree with you on all points. I don't think I've had this much fun since Cross Ange, and they were very different experiences.

They had the same scriptwriter.

>>139463068
To bad the most damaged SMs are the ones who don't get the healing.
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>>139463100
Well, I like reading and seeing cute girls get twisted and broken physically and mentally too, so its all good.
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>>139463100
>Cross Ange
24 episodes
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>>139462894
>my dick when
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>>139462977
Anon keep working on the short stories as everyone here really appreciates them.

Did ballcrusher Beato-san leave us as well?
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>>139463400
>Did ballcrusher Beato-san leave us as well?

yes
;_;
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNTx6ZogBbY
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>>139463400
Everyone is dead.

But one Story anon is going stronk
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>>139463603
I'm alive as day one
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>>139461529
one-dimensional villain with big tits.
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>>139463400
His last post/story was about Beatrix dying a virgin to Theo.
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>Friday night
>all that is left is a Lisefag, a Beatofag, a Gretelfag and maybe a Katiafag?

Also daily reminder that Pham got abandoned by her fanbase.
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>>139463929
>muffled" it aint me" starts playing
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>>139462355
This is great! Very well elaborated. Thank you.
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>>139463665
censored
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>>139463929
>maybe a Katiafag?
I'm always here
jederzeit
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>>139462177
Good luck buddy,
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>>139464180
Just checking to see if you are still alive!

What do you like more; Katia butt or Katia boobs?
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hot
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>>139464375
Katia boobs are small, cute and perky, very fitting for her personality.
they're both very nice.
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>>139464426
How would Katia be like once she has children?
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>>139464375
I can't decide.
Her whole from is exquisite
From the tip of her ahoges through the valley between her hills down the curves of her hips over the peak of her cute butt and finally resting on the delta that are her feet
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>>139464381
>these scraps we get for fanart

Literally JUST.
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>>139463929
Two Lisefags.

>>139462376
SM is anime related, so there will probably be threads here.

>>139462977
She did the same thing to me, even got me to start drawing again in a long time.
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>>139464540
I don't get it, where's our fanart and doujins?
>>139464559
Three.
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>>139462894
Can you translate Lise's?
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>>139464516
She'd fill out a bit probably, a little bit more chubby around the stomach, her breasts would get a teeny bit larger, and so on.
The real interesting part would be when her children reach conscription age.
What would she feel as her sons and daughters are sent off to the academy? Proud? Fearful? Maybe a mix of both?
Maybe the stress of worrying over their safety would start giving her wrinkles and grey hairs.
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>>139464654

http://muvluv.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Garmoe/Schwarzesmarken_Character_Sample_Translations
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>>139464654
He probably doesn't translate them, just reposts it

Anyways Lise's is already translated since forever ago as well
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>>139464696
thanks
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>>139464655
>Maybe the stress of worrying over their safety would start giving her wrinkles and grey hairs.
That is too much to bear! Poor Katia!
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>>139464799
Can't even bear to think what would happen to her when, inevitably, her children come home in boxes. Someone so empathetic, so caring, and she couldn't even be there to comfort her kids as they suffered.
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>>139464697
I just discovered it.
>Lise suddenly turns ice-cold if you touch her tits or bussi when she's in her pressure suit
Kinda scary.
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Well I guess this is it ;_;

I am off to bed but hopefully there will be some thread left tomorrow. I am kicking myself not being able to participate in the last thread that got to 600+ posts.

Anyway if this is the end I just wanted to say that these SM threads were fun while they lasted and I really had a great time with everyone! Hopefully we can have a thread reunion in November...

"Theo, Heinrich here. Have just shot down two bombers. No more ammunition. I'm going to ram. Auf Wiedersehen, see you in Valhalla!"
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>>139464696
Most of these WIKITARDS suffer severe identity crises.
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>>139465023
That was terrifying the first time.

>>139465039
See you tomorrow
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>>139464989
She'd still probably take it better than Beatrix or Lise. At least no one is liable to die while Katia;s grieving.
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>>139465086
>Mouths … They’re not just used for talking … They’re for ki-sses too!
Ironic as shit coming from Lise.
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>>139465055
Okaay. We've known that they post here for a while now.

The wiki was even established by /m/ back in the old days.
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>>139465094
fuck this shit-tier art
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>>139465208
UMI DA
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>>139465125
>touch hand
>i don't really want to be touched..
Lise had a tough life...
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>>139465094
>Soldier-kun there before his birth
>Warrior-kun is nowhere to be seen.

Well its to be expected, Warrior-kun got adapted out of TE as well.
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>>139465245
>can't stop imagining TSFs in bikinis
Fuck you anon
>>139465254
>click ribbon in outfit B
>Stop it! This alone, is something that I’ll never hand over … !
>she leaves if you click it twice
I imagine she goes to sleep clutching her ribbons. Saddening desu.
>>139465023
>ice cold
She's going into business mode m8.
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LIFE TO THE DEAD
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>>139462355

“A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words”
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>>139465720
...what?
>>139462355
Is this bait or not?
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>>139465751
Just some faggot shitposting.
Ignore him.
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>>139462894
Beato's is seriously the most wonderful in the universe. Literally fearection, the voice.
Just got home, got scared for a bit with that no continuation. We can keep at this.

>>139465023
Oh shit, they have different lines if you touch them in a pressure suit or not? I thought it was if you click them enough, they do a second set.
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>>139465986
Not sure, I think they say the second set easier in the suit though
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>>139465023
>Lise suddenly turns ice-cold
Pay up first before touching, that's like common hooker etiquette
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>>139465986
>Pham doesn't leave no matter how much you fondle her tits or finger her pussy
Slut af although judging from what Lise says she walks off screen to get her lingerie or something if you touch her too much there
>>139466048
She does it for free though.
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>>139465986
Some of her lines are sweet though, like the headpatting, facestroking, or belly rubbing lines. The rest are pretty psycho.
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>>139466077
That's because most of her patrons are stasi themselves
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>>139466103
'patrons'
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>>139466114
Yes, even Lise has patrons

Guys who get her pregnant all the time and guys who keep finishing inside her
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>>139466227
Do NOT bully the Lise
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>>139465814
>anyone who doesn't like my waifu is a shitposter, Ignore him.
>anyone who doesn't like my self-insert MC is a shitposter, Ignore him.

No wonder people hate waifufags and self-insertfags.
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>>139466260
Everyone bullied her with their dicks, to Lise its just Tuesday
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>>139466337
People bringing up SAO in a Schwarzemarken thread are indeed shitposters, yeah.
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>>139466347
Stop it anon, look how cute she is, why would you bully her?
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>>139466417
All I see is a stasi whore, even a rock is cuter
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>>139466077
That's part of what makes Pham wonderful. She's not slutty, she just wants to spoil her little ones very badly.

Kindest girl of all.

It's adorable how she leaves if you keep tickling her chin, of all places.

>>139466029
I see. Well like, from the tiny tiny JP I know, I never really noticed a difference. Will have to check again.

>>139466080
But that's what makes Beato's lines so much fun. You are scared of her, she knows you're scared of her, and yet she practically invites you to sate your curiosity. You know you could be punished, and yet, she wants you to still perhaps...try. She scares you not only by her reputation, but for those who are more "taht way", she scares you by voicing your hidden desires in your heart, in your mind. She knows the dark thoughts that swirl around, about why you would want nothing more than for her bloodied hand to be around your throat. Plus she has a lot of fun because she basically makes you fear for your life, and then if you press on, she becomes closer to her actual self, a pile of jelly in your arms.

Plus, her whole dichotomy, way of doing things is basically wierding you out because she's terrifying yet sweet at the same time. It causes you to lose your footing because human nature kind of assumes it's all just one or another - when two such contradictory emotions are being expressed at the same time, a lot of people have a hard time dealing with that. So like, one of the best examples is her headpatting - she makes you fear for your life if you headpat her, and yet, it assumes you stopped headpatting her as her second line, and she's sad you stopped.

>tl;dr you can have the world, if you're brave enough to try
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>>139465720

fuck off, everything is wrong

Light Yagami is the best character in the show, the plot-driver, the one who pushes the narrative forward. L was just more likable and hence - more popular.
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>>139459666
This post is just a perfect epilogue for SM on /a/.

>>139457829
So the Japs think that Beatrix was doing a better job following Jurgen's ideals and that Iris's ideals weren't necessarily correct either?
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>>139459666
It's not over yet though.

Only if you believe.

I wasn't able to be at my computer because of work. There are more of us than you think.
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>>139465208
Literally a semen milking demon
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>>139467159
>semen milking

You mean semen container
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>>139466985
>So the Japs think that Beatrix was doing a better job following Jurgen's ideals and that Iris's ideals weren't necessarily correct either?

Like 55% of Japanese agree with her plans over on the anicobin polls (and they've already had 800 total votes cast).

>>139467159
https://u.pomf.is/fzsgpr.mp4
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>>139467251
>and they've already had 800 total votes cast

Sorry, more like 720. My sleep addled mind can't into simple math.
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>>139459666
i hate when fun things goes to an end
at least we have the localized version of the trilogy coming soon and surely Strike frontier will be released!
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>>139459666
>those digits

Nice

>I had so much fun that I nearly fucked over my grades in college

You and me both anon. See you all around when the VN comes out.
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>>139467573
>Strike Frontier
>ever released

Oh you.

>>139464540
I still don't understand how this series gets so little fanart overall.

Then again, it took me many years to actually delve into this world. So maybe it's that.
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>>139464559
Lise a cuuute
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>>139467765
fuck, you strike frontier will be release

i will laugh at you when it happens!
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Isn't Strike Frontier some browser game?
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Ever wondered what kind of sex Walter and Sylwia had?
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>>139468890
it is something to be witnessed
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>>139468890
Slow and tender.
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>>139468890
Disgusting, poor Walther wasting his v-card on shit
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>>139468890
Rough and drunk, in the bases bathrooms, after drinking with the rest of the 666th.
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>>139468967

As if Walther was a virgin before Sylwia. With the life expectancy they have, they'd have to be crazy to wait for the perfect person, because if you like someone even a little bit you have to make sure that person knows before it's too late and you can never tell them.

With that said, Waltger is probably the only person who gets to see Sylwia's sweet, vulnerable side.
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>>139469124

Holy Fuck I think I'm accidentally Inghild's boyfriend in that post.
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>>139469124
>>139469243
You must now make Inghild your waifu!
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>>139469287

No can do, I'm already in too deep.
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You're finishing a pot of coffee in the kitchen when Lise comes wandering out of the bedroom in her stocking feet. You pour her a cup, and ask her if she wants anything to eat. She politely declines, but is betrayed by her growling stomach. You give her a bowl of cold cereal and milk. You lean on the counter, trying to give her a bit of space. As she finishes her meal, you try to explain to her how this world is different from the one she was raised in. You show her where your town is in relation to Germany on your phone. She's pretty amazed by the idea of a smart phone, even for a person who has spent the last few years of her life practically living inside a mecha unit. Of course, you also take the opportunity to show Lise that Germany is unified now, and she has nothing to fear from either the BETA or the Stasi.

Eventually, you decide that it would be easier to just let her read about it on Wikipedia, so you take her to your computer and have her read through some articles on the history of the DDR and Germany's reunification. After a while, she turns to you.

"Hey. This world is pretty different. How do you know who I am?"

"Um, you're basically a character in a fictional series. I guess that's the easiest way to describe it." You bring up a page on the series Schwarzesmarken. Lise scrolls through it until she sees her name mentioned. Her face starts to go pale.

"Um.... just... just how much do you know about me?" She turns to you, with just the slightest amount of anger and embarrassment and shame slipping through an otherwise impeccable poker face.

"Um..." You blush, "Probably too much. For today, lets just work on getting you settled in. Let's not worry about those things right now."

"Right," Lise replies in a measured voice. "Let's not worry about those things right now."

Lise returns to the computer screen, and continues scrolling through the pages.
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>>139470745

I love big dicks
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>>139469399
I know you! Aren't you a /k/ommando?
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>>139465094
I'll never stop kekking over soft Axmann

That said, that Beatrix is beautiful.

>>139468079
I want to believe too son, I want to believe too.

>>139468890
I have. My running theory is even at her most dere, she always had a suppressed dark side loving the roughest, nails on back cutting, slam against wall rough stuff. Then after gangrape for reals, she was traumatized, but still had that desire, which now only caused her shame and hurt if she ever thought about it. Also with rape, she lost her sort of innocence about the world - now she exposes her top pretty readily for example, but at the same time, turned off sex for a long time.

Walther was the first guy she could open up to, especially since he was utterly comforting and understanding and kind, and yet older and experienced in life.

Daddy issues probably come into play too here somewhere.

Basically, Walther was able to be there for whatever she needed. When she needed soft, healing, touchy feely stuff to become a living person again, Walther could do that. When she needed someone to see her wild, shameful side, Walther she could show.

Walther didn't even intend on being with her, probably even tried to stop it - he just wanted to help her and be happy. But she was probably very persistent, since she followed him in many varieties and forms.

Eventually, she made him realize he too deserved love.
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>>139469243
Why is she gone? It fucking hurts.

>she was the only one besides Pham who tried to tell everyone that beneath Theo's rough exterior, he was really a very kind person.

;_____;
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>>139471454
That was beautiful, anon. Only that hard stuff in the beginning bugs me. She was too sweet when she was younger. That sounded too OOC to me.
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>>139471454
Where was it mentioned that Sylwia is in need of a father figure?
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>>139472221
But the stuff at the beginning is important too.

Also, don't you know? A lot of "innocent" people aren't so innocent up there. But see, note the word suppressed. It, that dark side, was there, but she wished it wasn't, even as she used to sometimes rely on it's thoughts, it's desires to get herself off, or make her seize the day.

It doesn't change how sweet and pure she was.
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