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Well, since it's officially anime related now, what does /a/ think so far about Brotherhood: Final Fantasy XV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NsfalQwrD8

And what do you guys think of Kingsglaive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP8EgMUVmwk
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>>139425494
It was okay but it felt too much like a videogame tie-in. I thought it was cute when he was removing all the vegetables from his burger.
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>>139426653
>it felt too much like a videogame tie-in
But that's exactly what it is.
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>>139426653
Fucking autist. How can you enjoy a burger without vegetables? They add more flavor to the taste.
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>>139426653
It was basically a trailer. If it was just comfy traveling I'd be okay with it, but ending on a "cliffhanger" is bullshit. May as well put "PLEASE BUY OUR GAME WE'LL GO BANKRUPT WE SPENT SO MUCH MONEY AND NO ONE LIKES IT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE" instead of the credits
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>>139427113
It's a call back to a trailer they released a while back where a young Noctis has to eat a green soup
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>>139427113
The only people who eat their burgers like that are fat fucks who load it with greasy mayo, mushrooms, bacon, a bucket of cheese, and everything imaginable. And then they put a tiny piece of lettuce on top so they can say "hurr I'm healthy".
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The anime looks kind of whatever, but the demo was fun for what it was. Somebody posted a really cool webm of the combat yesterday, but I can't find it anymore.
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>>139427266
Are you legitimately autistic?
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>>139425494
Too short to make anything out of it. I'm just wait till they all come out before I watch anymore. Treat it like an ova.
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>>139427266
You do realize there's gonna be 5 more episodes coming soon right?
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>>139425494
Ignis and Prompto best boys.
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>>139425494
>fujoshit is ok if it's final fantasy
I love /a/'s double standards sometimes.
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>>139431060
It's grandfathered in. Much like how Yugioh Fushoshit pandering will get a pass, because it's been around longer than most Fujoshits have.
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I just want the fucking game to be released like holy shit I've been following this game for so many years now what the fuck is the problem why can't they release it and now it's supposed to come out this year but they still won't reveal the date what the fuck are they doing
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It was better than I expected, especially the fight.
But for a short OVA and considering A1 did it, it's hilariously low budget. They sure didn't gave any fucks about it.
And certainly not as much as the CG anime who looks so good it's barely anime anymore.
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>>139426788
So? I just felt like it could have done better. There are other series that basically exist as a commercial for the product it's based off but they don't really feel like it. That's my complaint.
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Why the evil empire is chasing Sasuke and his friends? Why all the characters wearing blacks? And how did they summon a weapon from thin air?
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>>139432817
>Why is the evil empire chasing Sasuke and his friends?
Because the evil empire wants Sasuke's magic rock.
>Why all the characters wearing blacks?
Because Sasuke thinks it's cool and he's a dork like that.
>And how did they summon a weapon from thin air?
Sasuke's magic rock.
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>>139432817
Crystals
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>>139433135
>magic cock
ftfy
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>>139433166
They probably want that, too. Noctis is pretty decent-looking.
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>>139425494
Gladio is so hot...
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>>139425494
>Demo is shotaNoct in Wonderland
>Can't wake up
>Wake up inside to see mother is kill
>Gorgon Sheeva straight outta God of War
>Father and qt waifu are confirmed kill by media
>Crystal cancer
>Friends may be kill in the end too
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>>139425494
>it's officially anime related now
Has everyone forgotten about FFU?
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>>139436588
Even the power of dubs can't make things that don't exist suddenly exist. Just ask waifufags.
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>>139425494
This shit was Free with worse animation. What is SE doing?
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>>139431502

The release date was announced at the event where the anime, movie, and trailer were announced.

Please pay attention to the game you claim to be following.
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>>139431502
The release date is September 30th this year.
>>139432817
>Why the evil empire is chasing Sasuke and his friends?
Because the evil empire wants to wipe out every one in his Royal blood.
>Why all the characters wearing blacks?
Because Noctis's family is based off the Yakuza, especially their clothing
>How summon weapon
Because crystals
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Someone stop this madman.
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>>139437519
It's just iceberg lettuce. If you replace it with a REAL type of lettuce then you're doing good. Romaine or spinach is good. Arugula if you're fond of the bitter flavors.
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>>139437808
>arugula

Say roquette like any civilized man.
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>FFXV gets an anime
...why?
It's not even out yet. What the fuck?
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AOTY
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>>139439143
It's a prequel basically. The reason they said they're doing all this shit is so they don't make spinoffs or sequels to it.
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>>139439143
It got 2 anime even
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>>139425494

I don't know Sony marketing exec what do you want to hear
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>>139437323

From Tabata:
>In the Kingdom of Lucis where our heroes reside, the colour black has historically been treated as a special colour. Because of this, the attire of the royal family and those in occupations closely tied to them are unified by having black as a base colouring. This part of the lore is the reason why the outfits of all four main characters are black.
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>>139440292
Which was changed
Originally it was because they worshipped Etro, the goddess of death, then they thought it was 2spooky so they changed it
We need Nomura back
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>>139440485
>Etro
So this new guy moved it out of the Fabula universe?
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>>139440485
>They changed it from "we dress in black because it's edgy and we like the goddess of death and it's symbolic of mourning 'n shit" to "we dress in black because black is speshul".
At least before there was a pretense of trying to tie it into the plot. Now it's like they're not even trying.
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>>139440625
Basically yes
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>>139440485
So now I can make fun of faggots from /v/ whenever they try to defend the character designs?
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>>139440485
I'm honestly pissed they changed so much about the game.
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>>139440727
So what gods DO they worship then?
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>>139440625
Oh yeah Tabata decide XV officially isn't part of the FNC anymore
>>139440710
Oh no they literally worshipped Etro because it gave the royal family powers
Like summoning the phantom swords
Also Noctis apparently had a near death experience and could feel death or whatever Nomura meant by that
The Versus was canceled, and XV rebuilt from it so everything changed
>>139440895
No idea
FNC doesn't count for XV so no idea
>>139440844
It used to make a lot more sense
It was set in a neogothic modern city
Based on Tokyo itself irrc
Then they changed direction completely
The designs are by Nomura but the clothes are Roen, are real and expensive as fuck
They were designed for 1 game and ended up in another without being changed
It's like if you take Naruto characters put them in another anime and then say they dress weird and have stupid headbands
>>139440881
You and me both Chris
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>>139441133
>It used to make a lot more sense
>It was set in a neogothic modern city
>Based on Tokyo itself irrc
>Then they changed direction completely
Wait, I've been out of the loop. If it's not "A Fantasy Based on Reality", then what the fuck is it now? I've seen the last few trailers and figured they just went with slightly different colors.
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>>139425494
Only watching because
>Sasuke and friends comfy ride
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>>139431060
Still better than:
>it's fujoshit so it's crap
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>>139441374
>It's fujoshit so it's crap
>implying this logic doesn't check out

Fujoshi really is the bottom of the barrel. anon.
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Who put Sasuke in a Final Fantasy game?
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>>139440485
Nomura's FFXV would have been some contrived Kingdom Hearts tier shit. That small bit of lore sounds nice and all, but the overall story would probably be more stupid and not know when to reel it back.
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post shota Noct
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>>139441569
Now that you've mention it, I think you bring up a good point. In my interest of this game, I almost completely forgot what Nomura was capable of.

I'm a sucker for some good lore, but I imagine that it would have turned out to be needlessly convoluted come full game.
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>>139441633
Has there been porn yet?
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Is this game still tied to the FFXIII universe? I remember it used to be back in 2007
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>>139431060

No double standard here, fujoshit is fine by me. Wouldn't have been able to watch Gundam since the 90s otherwise.
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>>139441863
>>139441569
Nomura's a good (and more importantly, proven) idea guy, though, so they honestly should've stuck with what he originally came up with and built off of it instead of just replacing everything.
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>>139441240
It kept only the tagline
It's completely different
This game went through the worst kind of dev hell imaginable
It's like XIII plus a whole plethora of new issues
The same cross-gen development only several more years of it
The same engine troubles only exponentially more severe
The same lack of unified vision only they're still changing shit a few months from release
And
A change of directors halfway through
Pretty much a complete reboot half-way through
Gameplay keeps changing with every trailer and demo
Graphics are shit, game runs like shit, gameplay is unresponsive
>>139441633
Pic
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>>139441955
Nomura would have made the plot too complex to be solved in one game and Square has already gone out of their way to say that they want this to be wrapped up in one game and not make anything like XV-2. Plus I want Nomura to focus on KH3 so it actually has a good ending.
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>>139442459
No, I mean have Nomura do background fluff and lore and character concepts, then have another writer take those and do something with it. Kinda like a GM for a tabletop game: somebody else did most of the fluff, but the GM takes that fluff and turns it into a story.
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>>139442144
>Gameplay keeps changing with every trailer and demo
>Gameplay is unresponsive
Could you expound on this? Like, gameplay was one of the few things I was really hyped about.
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>>139426788
hello
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>>139442144
>game runs like shit
>gameplay is unresponsive
If the demo was any indicator, it felt fine to me.
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What studio did it?
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>>139442459
>and not make anything like XV-2
They really have no hope for their own games anymore.
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>>139442729
They don't want to repeat the disaster that was the XIII trilogy is more like it.
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>>139442612
Ok
Let's talk about the Regalia, the car
Now the car was originally featured in the very first trailer
It was always a very important part
Then they kept pushing it
Until Duscae started being a thing
Then they almost dropped it completely
Never talked about it anymore
Not even drivable in ED
Now they start bringing it back and now they show it can fly
>>139442679
Play the new demo
ED was at 900p, new one is at 1080p like the final game will be
It runs badly and they changed the combat again
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>>139442817
>it can fly
fucking what
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>>139431060
I always dig bromance and coming of age stories, especially for a guy with great destiny in front of him, also giant creatures, unlimited blade works, teleportation father-child relationships.

The things that bother me are his connection with a blond girl (why can't kids be kids, they act like plastic preidols, just let them be a little crazy, even Nisekoi did a great job at least with that.

Also are crystals supposed to symbolize something? The premise is that it's a kingdom of great crystal, yet i don't give a single fuck about crystals. Couldn't that be a loli or something equally protection inducing?
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>>139442817
Yeah, I am talking about the new demo. I don't notice any problems really and them changing the combat as fine as it's good at launch. That's something you do when a game is in development still.
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>>139442871
It's the Batmobile now, don't ask too many questions.
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>>139442766
XIII trilogy actually saved SE after XIV bombed
>>139442871
https://youtu.be/SoTVrFfSi8s
At the very end
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>>139442947
fps is all over the place and the LoD is even worse
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>>139443037
It saved them by sales maybe but XIII-2 and LR were fucking horrible and the story was so stupid.
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>>139443152
Were you mad you weren't a playable character Snow?
I understand you were a great tank
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>>139425494
its manima enough for me
i like it
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>>139443232
Noel was kinda boring. I would've preferred playing as older Hope. LR just had shitty gameplay.
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>>139433491
Especially when he bothers to actually dress.
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>>139441374
This is true though. I mean FFXV is looking like a huge mess after that demo.
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>>139443037
Which is unfortunate, because XIV: ARR is making bank. They can stop with the XIII shit now.
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>>139442144
>graphics are shit
This is square enix, graphics are always a priority to them when it comes to final fantasy
>gameplay keeps changing with every trailer
Its still a action combat game at its base
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>>139442459
What about SE's new multi-part FF7 remake?
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:D
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>>139442947
The game launches in a few months. They should be well and done with the vast majority of the game's actual development by now. If they don't have a solid combat system down yet then it's a bad sign. We're 6 months and counting from release. Everything should be polishing at this point.

We CERTAINLY shouldn't be having things like "Well the car's the batmobile now!" this close to release.

I'm willing to bet that either the game ends up playing like shit or it gets another delay as they try to get their act together.
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>>139443550
Nothing because Nomura and his secrets
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>>139443382
I loved the gameplay in LR
And XIII-2 would have been better with a 4-player party with Snow and adult Hope
>>139443513
No more XIII games
Lightning killed God and went to France to be a LV model
>>139443536
They're bad because
>muh 100k poly character models
>muh 20k poly hair rendering with full physics
So they downgraded everything else
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>>139443592
>flying car
You realize they probably just kept that a secret for this event, right? You honestly think they just thought of it recently?
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>>139441240
Everything you said is still in. >>139441133 is just an autistic Nomuradrone that mistakes his headcanon for reality. The old known Versus stuff is mostly still in, down to exact plot details (the royal ring for example) and even the exact same roads shown back in 2009 or so.
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>>139443382
LR's gameplay was about the only thing I enjoyed about it. It gave me that Majora's Mask feel. There were a lot of parts that could've been better (mixing cosmetic options with mechanical options was a dumb idea), but overall the experience of the gameplay itself was workable.

The writing was absolute trash, though. The visuals were okay. The music was mostly recycled XIII/XIII-2 soundtrack, which is fine, except they didn't even sample the good tracks from those games most of the time.
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>>139443720
Stella is gone just to say one
The dark and moody atmosphere is gone too
And most importantly, character switching is gone
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>>139443720
That's not a Nomurafag. That's a /v/ overreactionary pccuck.
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Time to dust off my console.
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>>139443669
Yes
They were talking about how the car was being limited to only going on roads
Then about airships
Now it's a flying car
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>>139443810
>Stella is gone
She's just been redesigned is all, and her role is different now compared to the initial concepts.
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>>139443592
And I remember /v/ saying that they were done with pretty much everything back in 2015.

This release is going to be a disaster.

>>139443889
They couldn't just keep the car regular and then add airships?
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>>139425494
so edgy i got cuts watching it.
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So is this game still nothing but J-pop styled dudes dude-ing it out?
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>>139443996
Apparently they couldn't work it out
Somehow
I dunno this is the same company that rewrote entire characters and the entire plot because they somehow had problems implementing Serah in FFXIII
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>>139443996
>/v/
>indicating anything of use at all
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>>139444038
I remember Noctis's seiyuu describing it as almost like a road trip movie in some ways.
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>>139443810
>Stella is gone just to say one
True, but she was also pure shit. Just rewatch her only dialogue scene - she was Rinoa 2.0, except dumber, a total Mary Sue, and with the shitty "I like you but I must fight you" drama.
>The dark and moody atmosphere is gone too
Rewatch the very second Versus trailer, with the main four fooling around in sunny Altissia. If you thought Versus would be 40+ hours of DARKNESS, then you're retarded.
>And most importantly, character switching is gone
Considering Versus never got past 25% completion, it never existed in the first place. It's easy to promise stuff until you actually have to implement it and make it work with everything else.
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>>139434435
>Father and qt waifu are confirmed kill by media
Father confirmed because Sean Bean.
Luna? Far from it. Probably going to be used as leverage or bargaining chip by the enemy some time in the game.

Anyhow, the anime is meh. Other than detailed face close-ups, it looks bland as hell.
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>>139443669
Of course they did.
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>>139439143
Marketing.
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>>139444140

Which, you know, is a premise I could maybe enjoy. But the style of the characters that I saw in those old trailers. They are so Japanese pop idol-ish in appearance. When I think of "dude road trip" I imagine a group of stoners or otherwise slobs going on wacky adventures.
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>>139443938
Exactly like the game itself
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>>139443889
They also said the car would get upgrades.

And honestly, seeing as it's a Cid that works in the car, turning it into a batmobile makes a lot of sense.
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>>139443889
It is limited to roads in the sense that it's not an off-road car; you have chocobos for the rugged terrain. And Regalia being a Batwing eliminates the hassle of teleporting/leaving the car every time you want to use an airship or any other transportation method.
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>>139444386
>you can't use the car in rugged terrain
Does that mean you can't land on them and/or fly over them?
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>>139444156
>If you thought Versus would be 40+ hours of DARKNESS
He's not talking about I JUST FUCKING HATE THIS WORLD AND THE HUMAN WORMS FEASTING ON ITS CARCASS darkness, just that any semblance of a plot on a dark political drama and world-building has been scratched for lawl so funny Prompto antics.

We could have had Game of Thrones, anon.
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>>139444277
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_movie

It's a whole genre and it's not what you think it is. Pretty much every work of fiction where characters spend most of the time wandering the world is a road movie.
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>>139444536
>plot on a dark political drama and world-building
So just like what we're getting in XV. It's ok. You can have this (You).
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>>139444551

Yeah well there are a shitload of movies like I described on that list. But of course you are right they are not all that way.

I will probably give it a try eventually. Although the FF series has long since stopped being a day 1 preorder type series for me after many disappointments.
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>>139444536
There's more worldbuilding now that there was in Versus. Let's list all the things that Versus did not have, or at least we were never shown it did:
>Niflheim's complicated relationship with its vassal states
>Emperor being a ceremonial figure, power dynamics between him and his powerful chancellor
>worldwide religion and the powerful Oracle position
>trade embargoes
>Lucis having a ton of skeletons in their closet
>Lucis kings being short-lived as fuck
>sworn families of guardians tied to their kings for generations
And it goes on and on. I honestly don't recall a single concrete case of political drama in Versus.
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>>139444666
>just like what we're getting in XV
We're not getting a dark political drama, we're getting the fucking 2016 Presidential Elections.

>>139445010
The execution matters more than the idea. They have things in there, but other than Noctis taking back his throne, knowing SE, the other details will be left just sitting there as they're putting a lot more emphasis on the road trip.
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>>139444277
Well the premise is that Noctis was originally en route to seal the deal with a political marriage to ease tensions between two nations until shit happened and the arrangement was probably to let his country's guard down. I assume the road trip is him and his gang trying to find out what happened to dad and Luna when Niflheim attacked, and then maybe trying to take back their magical crystal that got stolen in the chaos.
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>>139445277
So Nomura, a guy who has never done a game with a single shred of political drama and has no real interest in history would have delivered a GoT-style game, but the current team with actual history buffs will not? What kind of crazy logic is this?
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>LITERAL Squall and Zell copy and paste
>2 other generic characters; the muscle and the brains
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>>139439143
Well tons of money and manpower went into the game to get it out of the dusty old shelf, developed, and finally finished. No doubt they have to make sure it sells. Anime always lures you to buy merchandise, be it games, toys & figures, LNs, DVD and Blu Rays or manga.
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>>139445770
Well the game apparently has to sell 10 million copies just for them to break even, and only VII has done that, so they need to go all out.
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>>139445880
>10 mil
That's a fucking lot.
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>>139445880

And 7 had chicks while this one has painfully few. Yet again SE is going all out on some massive unfathomably huge development effort only to fall short.
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>>139446089
Do you really think anyone bought VII for the girls? I mean they were a huge plus but I don't think that was a reason for 99% of the fans. Also, fujobucks are fucking crazy.
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>>139446160

> Do you really think anyone bought VII for the girls?

Not being critical but are you old enough to remember when that game came out? That game was responsible for many people discovering hentai for the first time.
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>>139445010
Captcha's being super gay right now.

Also, politics and world-building in entirely fictional universes have to go much deeper than this guy leads this country and that guy leads that country and they hate each other blah blah blah. The societies within them play a huge part as well. How do the people view their leaders? Are they nationalistic? Xenophobic? Do they care for their countries? Are their governments corrupt? Are the higher-ups pedaling propaganda left and right? What are their traditions? How did these countries come to be? How do their laws differ? How do their cultures differ? What different parties divide the political scene, if any? How's the economy? How are foreign affairs? Does Noctis want to build a wall on the southern border of Niflheim? And so on.

Now, when was the last time SE ever dealt with politics in such a way in any of their games? If you know one, please name it, because I'd play the hell out of that shit.

>>139445481
I'm not even talking about Nomura right now, but: the only thing that changed was the directors, correct? Tabata wouldn't have delivered either then.
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>>139445973
Not really for an ARPG. Fallout 4 sold that much in a single week. Witcher 3, the third game in a series that most people never played, sold 10 million in a year. SE would be okay with XV selling that much over its whole lifetime, so 10+ years.
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>>139446089
Hopefully people starving for more games will help, although at this point 7th gen is actually getting a good supply of games
In general I think current gen has outdone expectations on many aspects, so there might still be hope
The dire situation also explains FF7 remake and it being episodical
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>>139446281
>SE would be okay with XV selling that much over its whole lifetime
Probably not. How badly do they need cash right now?
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>>139446301

Well I agree with you that current gen games have surpassed in quality the early PS3 era attempts. So who knows.
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>>139446281
Those games had prequels that were hits though. XV is a completely new standalone thing. It only has the FF name to fall on, accompanied by how well received the demos were, and how well SE will market the game to prospective gamers before and after launch. Numbers are still up in the air I think, but not certain.
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>>139446265
Xenogears?
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>>139425494
I am just baffled by SquareEnix' directing executives.

How about focusing on making this game a success first before you try to link it with a CGI movie and anime?

Because honestly your previous two final fantasy games were just lacklustre
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>>139446512
>Xenogears?
I've heard that was more Evangelion-ish than anything.
Thanks though.
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>>139446491
XIV ARR is making them silly amounts of money right now, so it's not as bad as most people think.
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>>139446565

Even Atlus with Persona 5, on a way smaller budget and scale, is making at least an OVA to go along with the game at launch.

It's becoming routine in the industry now.
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>>139446301
FF7 remake might actually be their secret-weapon-fallback plan in case shit hits the fan with XV and they don't make enough to profit or earn back what's been invested. They know people are thirsty as fuck for a FF7 remake, and have been since the early PS3 days. Remember Type-0 HD coupled with the exclusive FF15 Duscae demo? Probably extra funding for FF15 development too.
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>>139446265
As it happens, some people in the current dev team care a lot about the very things you mentioned. Wan Hazmer's job for example is developing and differentiating various cultures of the FFXV world. One of the reasons why the XV core team has so many foreign devs is to provide a more broad perspective than what an insular, pure Japanese team would have had. Tabata himself is a history buff and probably the biggest fan of Matsuno at SE.

Whether they'll succeed or not remains to be seen, but the XV team is more interested in the political/worldly aspect than any SE devs sans Matsuno.
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Vagrant Story II when?
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>>139446491
Last year they had a pure profit of 202 million dollars. They're pretty damn rich now.
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Last time I got hyped by a game was with MGSV.

Meh, maybe I'll go idort race for this.
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This isn't a stealth /v/ thread is it?
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>>139446493
Simply the fact that people predicted consoles to die and be completely replaced by pc and mobile which was blown out of the water makes gen 7 exceed expectations by a large margin, not only by the quality of it's games, and I think it made people more optimistic and passionate and such people buy more
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>>139446892
Nah it's already a stealth /biz/ thread
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>>139446892
I sure hope not
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>>139446502
Fallout did have a big-selling predecessor (although why Bethesda's lazy attempts sell so well is a mystery), but Witcher 1 and 2 were fairly niche games. W1 was almost unknown outside of Central/Eastern Europe and was a PC exclusive to boot. W2 did better, but it never came out on a PS platform. Meanwhile, W3 sold the most on the PS4, a platform it had absolutely no history on.
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>>139445880
Not really. Tabata cleared that out saying that is just the team's goal, like surpassing VII.

It will sell, no, actually, it is already selling shitloads, that's for sure.
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>>139446265
FFXIII had a ton of political stuff
You get to know everything about Cocoon and Pulse and the way they work by the end
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>>139447157
Oh? Well that's good to hear. I was about to say that 10 million seemed a bit high.
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>ketchup everywhere
dat foreshadowing
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>Noctis can summon a shit load of weapons
This is their perfect opportunity to put Gilgamesh in the game. I fucking hope they didn't forget that glorious bastard.
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>>139447443
My FF wet dream is Gilgamesh being one of the playable characters
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>>139443451
Looking fly there. I hope it becomes an actual costume you can change to.
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>>139447573
It's a preorder DLC so it should be.
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>>139447255
FFXII and FFT had way more. As far as SE games go, the political heavy games are Front Mission 3, FFXII, and FFT. Others like FFXIII, FFVIII and Xenogears had elements of it but it wasn't the central focus.
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I never finished FF7 but could someone tell me, is the story stand alone? And do the others serve as sequals to the same time line?

Also is the series actually good again, i swear 13 and that one where you play water soccer where both terrible.
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>>139447617
I thought the only pre-order dlc was a weapon?
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>>139442904
Well, the Crystal thing is what makes this an FF related storyline.

Crystals are generally just vessels of vast power and more often than not have a civilisation or settlement protecting them/living off them. Normally there are more than one Crystal but in this and in FF Type 0 we have seen plots where people are warring over the last remaining crystal. I think its pretty nifty.
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>>139447695
Every FF is standalone, some have multiple parts. The common theme which links them is >>139447747
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>>139447513
Dissidia 012 man
You even get a CGI cutscene with Bartz
https://youtu.be/E-I6xvvtxsU
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>>139447747
And those crystals may not be entirely good. In FF Type-0 they were outright genocidal.
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>>139447978
Technically can also play Gilgamesh in FFRK.
Is he available in FFBE?
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>>139447812
Actually they are all connected by Dissidia
And X is a prequel to VII
>>139447747
It wasn't just 1 crystal in type 0
It was 4
Then Tempus Finis happens and everyone fucking dies
>>139448055
Yeah sentient crystals that made people go to war
Also an Ultima bomb which was pretty much a nuke is detonated and annihilates a city
Japs are still fucked up from the nukes
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>>139448171
>And X is a prequel to VII
What?
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>>139447700
Depends on where you preorder it from.
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>>139448232
Yup
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>>139448171
And then the "good guys" used several thousand of human sacrifices to create another magic nuke, before the Crystals went full Book of Revelation on everyone. Living in the T-0 world fucking sucks.
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>>139448627
Tabata is a weird guy
And his protags have short lifespans
How long do you think the ending where Noctis dies and everyone cries will be
I'm betting 30 minutes of
>You guys, have, to, live
>Live for your king, live for the honor of Lucis
>Luna, I will always be alive, in you heart
>My memory, a shining beacon of hope, that darkness can be overcome
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>>139448232
Well, it isnt. They are just set in the same universe and only extremely losely connected
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>homo boy band adventures
>all the qt grills are sidelined
I bet Fujoshi did this
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>>139449116
Until X-3 happens of course
>X-2.5 is retconned as being just a nightmare Tidus had
>Spira is being destroyed by an evil force that's bringing back the dead souls and shit
>turns out it's Jenova
>Jenova wins and kills everyone
>consumes Spira completely
>follows the survivors to Gaia
>uses Spira as a meteir to reach Gaia
>FFVII-0 starts
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>you will never see an OVA with lightning
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>>139448986
>implying there will be anyone left to cry
In CC Cloud was barely coherent and soon forgot about Zack altogether and the T-0 ending was one huge mass grave with only three witnesses who lived to tell the story. Tabata and Yoko Taro should team up and create the ultimate suffering game.
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>>139449559
Go to bed, Toriyama.
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>>139441906
It never was tied to XIII's universe in the first place. XV is still a part of Fabula Nova Crystallis just like Type-0. All three titles share the same MYTHOLOGY. NOT the same universe.
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>>139444277
When I saw Noctis and the gang driving together I thought of this.
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>>139450423
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>>139450242
XV doesn't even use the same terminology. No Fal'Cie and l'Cie business here.
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>>139444536
>We could have had Game of Thrones, anon.
>implying XV won't be Game of Thrones now that it's confirmed that Sean Bean (Ned Stark) is voicing Regis and Lena Heady (Cersei Lannister) is voicing Luna.
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>>139450532
But the goddess Etro is part of XV.
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Kingsglaive looks pretty fucking awesome
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>>139450636
The wiki says it's no longer part of the Fabula series, if you consider their opinion worth anything.
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>>139450733
Even T-0 was pretty much unrelated to FNC despite the shared terminology. Almost everything in it worked differently from XIII. And judging from Sakaguchi's recent comments, some parts of SE want to disassociate from the whole XIII thing. The recent FF retrospective commercial in Japan was also pretty telling.
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>>139425494
They should cancel the Game and just make a full Anime series.
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>>139451185
What was the whole problem about FF XIII?
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>>139451185
XIII itself was good and had some solid writing, especially in the character department. The ending was weird, but honestly if you'd just said "Etro took pity on the party and fixed everything" I would've been fine with that and still called it a decent end.

The first problem was that there were 2 sequels. The second problem is that SE let a waifufag write them both.
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>>139451295
Nice memeopinion.
13-2 barely even deals with Lightning, she's a plot mcguffin in there.
And as far as characters go it's a lot more solid and level-headed than 13. There's like, motivations behind actions and stuff.
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>>139451295
>XIII itself was good and had some solid writing, especially in the character department.

No, it was bland as shit, the whole Hope story in 13-1 is so predictable it hurts.
The entire story is even worse, one straight line, no freedom moving in the world.
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>>139451378
XIII-2 was indeed a huge improvement as far as characterization went and characters gained actual chemistry, but everything went full Lightning again in LR. And Toriyama is legitimately insane.
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>>139451295
Could you explain a bit more XIII's ending? Didn't really understood it and wasn't engaged enough at the game to care at all
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>>139451378
XIII-2 felt better, but it was completely unneeded and set up for the third game, which was completely waifufaggotry.

>>139451590
So basically through the last few hours of the game (earlier if you read Datalogs like a good goy) you're informed that Orphan is powering all of Cocoon and all of the Fal'cie there. The plan becomes "well if we kill Orphan we'll stop being L'Cie and also we'll be telling God to shove it", so that's more or less what the party decides to do, despite this being known as a terrible idea.

So they go to do that and it turns out that's what Orphan WANTED them to do. They decide to tell Orphan to take his plan and shove it up his ass...by following his plan and killing him. This does exactly what you'd been figuring would happen for half the game: Cocoon falls out of the sky. Vanille and Fang use Magical Lesbian Powers to fuse together and use their crystal stasis to hold Cocoon up mid-fall. Everyone else just goes into Crystal Stasis.

Etro decides "Nah, that's not cool, they worked so hard!" and pulls them out of stasis. Everything is happy and Serah and Snow immediately get started on their engagement plans. Roll credits.
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>>139450733
>trusting the wiki
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>>139451295
>XIII itself was good
Stopped reading. Everything about XIII was one colossal trainwreck. That's not an opinion. It's not a meme either. It's a fact.
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It was a good Ad for the game. Made me more interested in playing it. My favorite part was with the hamburger.

Do you think the waitress called the cops on them?
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>>139445735

God damn this thread is retarded. /a/ has shit taste in anime and has no knowledge of video games.
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>>139431060
>I only get social interaction from 4chan and I can't tell the difference between bromance and homos
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>>139453310

Seriously, this is what these social retards think. It's what happens when these dumb fucks deny the real world.
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>>139452524

Citation needed you fucking retard.
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>>139449177

>projecting this hard

Are they too sexy for you to focus?
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>>139427113
I like my shit simple, fuck overloading the poor thing with grass and mayo, I'd rather make myself a salad separate from the burger if I wanted to eat grass.
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>>139444277
Let's be honest, that is exactly what their road trip is going to be like.

Fishing, chocobo racing, casino mini quests-nobody actually finishes an RPG for the story. There is plenty of opportunity to dick around.
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>>139453834
>visiting brothels and having fivesomes with your bros
It's gonna be awesome, too bad the game isn't multiplayer
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>>139425494
I liked it, not big deal, comfy feeling just like the game. I hope this game doesn't bomb hard, it has potential.
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>>139454080
Don't see why not. FFVII had l...oh wait lemme stop there
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>>139454170
The game was trending worldwide for a whole day after the last event. It sure as hell ain't bombing.
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>>139452456
Yeah I kinda got that but what I didn't get is how did they become massive cristal block at the end.
How could they do that? If they could do that absurd thing, what other things can they do? Did they plan that out? Did they just do that without knowing they could do that?
Was foreshadowed on one of those logs that such thing was possible? None of the previous L'Cie had any friend at all so they could pull one of those crazy tricks with the power of friendship?
It felt like shonen tier asspull
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>>139454713
Technically Vanille and Fang being able to turn into Ragnarok in the first place was already breaking the usual rules, and we knew about that since pretty much the beginning of the game, so those were already out the window.

And no, it wasn't planned out. They just sorta did it.
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>>139443656
>Lightning killed God and went to France to be a LV model

Truly a badass.
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She's cute. Porn when?
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>>139453006
>Waitress in a roadside diner from enemy territory
JUST

maybe
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>>139425494
I dunno why but the whole road trip of magic powered pretty boys premise kinda reminds me of JoJo. Not manly JoJo, but FABULOUS JoJo. Like Vento Aureo JoJo I mean.
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>>139444536
>We could have had Game of Thrones, anon.
Thank fuck we won't have it then, fuck Martin too while I'm at it.
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>>139447655
FM3's script was butchered to hell though.
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>>139445010
Fucking this. Don't forget Versus was originally supposed to be "muh Romeo and Juliet starcrossed lovers" fanficwank between Noctis and Stella. Stella was originally a tragic heroine forced to fight Noctis, but now she's been rewritten as Lunafreya who is a psychologically and emotionally strong political and religious leader.
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>>139453006
Probably not. She would've completely flipped a shit if she fully recognized Noct. Even if she did, she wouldn't wanna report him and risk a bunch of Magitek Knights with orders to kill Noct and his gang on sight and risk fucking up her restaurant and perhaps killing her in the crossfire.
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>>139459191

Just because it had a couple of aspects based on Romeo and Juliet doesn't mean it was going to be a copy of the whole thing.

>who is a psychologically and emotionally strong political and religious leader

We have to play the game to actually confirm that. I have hopes for Lunafreya, but right now she's basically a slight strong-willed Yuna 2.0 with extra assets.
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>Oh, hey. Luna got some character development
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>>139425494
Art style looks like one of those shows that'll end up completely forgotten about early on.
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>>139460268
Oh shit, is that really her?

She's probably cosplaying as Selphie or Shelke to avoid the enemy or something.
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>>139459191
I dunno, I liked the idea of the love interest being also the antagonist.

But what's done is done. Let's see what Lunafreya has to of offer.
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>>139459191
I wonder if people would have been less butthurt about the change from Stella to Luna if the name had been kept the same. I mean it's not like they even look that different in appearance or anything.
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>>139432579
It's literally just the first fucking episode. Wait and see what happens next.
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>>139447041
Gen 7 was PS3/X360/Wii. PS4/XBONE/WiiU is Gen 8.
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>>139460268
Is that Luna or her servant Gentiana?
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>>139425494
I will watch it because I like the brotherly vibes the promotional material is giving me.

>>139440485
I've actually heard they had to change it because worshipping death wasn't accepted by their target CERO rating.
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>>139461201

I think people might have been less butthurt if she kept her magical sword fighting style. The name doesn't seem to be much of an issue.

If I remember well she had the same powers as Noctis, that he wasn't the only snowflake around and there was some duality going around, but after her conversion to Luna she's only seen with a staff here and there, which makes her look more like a sorcerer/mage type. Now that she's revealed to be an oracle, it seems that her battle job is heading more to be like that.
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>>139441569

I think that anon meant that the aesthetics and overall world-building Nomura had was interesting. Tabata could have worked and added more to it, instead of just changing this or that.

I mean yeah, they worshipped Etro and used to wear black, so what? why change it? They could have kept and used all of that Fabula Nova Crystallis lore and still make it a non XIII entry.
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>>139461736
>mfw when you finally have Luna in the party

>She's a healer

Sasuga Tabata.
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>>139431060
final fantasy has been fugo pandering since the second game
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Little disappointed with Leviathan from the trailer since he doesn't look that much different than the XIV version, but that Titan though.
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>>139462790
Most of the monsters and summons look extremely similar to Yoshitaka Amano's original concepts for the first FF games, just in HD. Just take a look at the goblins in FF15 and then Amano's design for FF1.
I really like that aspect. People who say this has nothing to do with FF anymore don't have a clue what they're talking about.
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>>139462790
>he

This Levia-tan is explicitly stated to be a girl.
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>>139461560
No, it's some literally who NPC from a minor sidequest.
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>>139437519
I think this is to show that Noctis is pretty much a teenager in a older body. Like his father he is cursed with fast aging.
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>>139462107
Doubt it. XV doesn't seem to have dedicated healers; in the party Ignis and Noctis share the healing duty, but neither of them is a healer.
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>>139464464
>Letting some random slut in the bromobile
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>>139464547
Some people just have their quirks. I recall Nomura saying he's a bit worried that people won't like Noctis much, because despite his reserved manner he has an idiosyncratic personality and not all of it is typically positive.
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>>139464907
He isn't emo like I thought he would be, so that's a plus.
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>>139464709
It's optional. During the gameplay presentation the hosts even showed what happens if you ignore it.
>And here we see random hitchhikers asking for help. But we're in a hurry, so we're not helping them. We're gonna be jerks instead.
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>>139452461
its run by massive autists who like to fact check everything
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>>139465056
Hell yeah, show those roasties
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>Keiji Fujiwara seems like he's the bad guy again

Also, Mamoru Miyano doesn't really fit Glassesbro. I keep thinking that his voice was coming from Noctis.
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>>139465126
Yeah MM should have been Noctis or blonde
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>>139431060
>being this much of a pleb
I bet you think Saving Private Ryan is fujoshit too huh
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>>139465126
From the trailer it seemed like Ardyn and Noctis might end up as unwilling allies in some way.
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>>139464907
I feel like they've intentionally made Noctis a little less likeable than your average shounen protagonist. He gives off vibes of an unruly adolescent, in the way he moves and awkwardness in hairstyle so much so I actually want to see CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT (ie haircut) during the game.
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>>139465371
In the Duscae demo he showed many facets. He's pretty wise (he and Ignis both serve as the voice of reason sometimes and seem to share the core worldview), has an unshakeable ego, is almost impossible to insult, has a mean teasing streak, but is also very chill and somewhat distant. Has an interesting habit of turning people's words against them too.
He somehow manages to seem both young and old, so "idiosyncratic" is right.
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>>139465126
I originally imagined Miyano voicing Noctis and was surprised he got cast for Ignis instead. But after hearing Tatsuhisa Suzuki's performance as Noctis, I really think that he's the perfect man for the job. Especially after the recent trailer where he delivered his lines powerfully.
https://youtu.be/oxKLNz36o-A?t=1m6s
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