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Which deaths hit you the hardest?

http://strawpoll.me/7214604
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Beatrix died, /a/ cried

Lise died, no one gave a shit
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Takbir!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs27BWDTc04
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WHEN I WAS
A YOUNG BOY
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Here’s to 33 years since the fall of communism in East Germany!

To celebrate the founding of democracy in East Germany the BBC has published a book on the anniversary, March 28th, containing a collection of all GDR Katja propaganda seen during the segment.
To buy the book follow the following link (MSRP ‎£0.00/ $0.00):
https://d2.maxfile.ro/sjdirqrmqw.pdf

To see the various posters used during the segment, follow the link graciously provided by the Katja Historisches Museum (KHM , Katia Historical Museum) to their online archives:
http://imgur.com/a/4tnrL
http://pastebin.com/NnAfJGi3
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>>139259808
Pretty girls should be cherished, not penetrated!
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>>139259882
STOP REMINISCING AND GET HER TO A HOSPITAL
JESUS CHRIST YOU HAD SO MUCH TIME TO TRY AND SAVE HER
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>>139259883
YES
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>>139259860
Lise is winning the current poll and Beatrix is losing it pretty bad, so I don't think that really applies. Most people probably didn't think Lise deserved the shit she got, but Beatrix is another story.
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>>139259860
I did, anon. I guess that means I should write fixfiction that is infinitely better than the original LN writers and save her for myself, right? :^)
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>>139260000
>taking that post seriously
Also nice quads
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>>139260008
Go on anon I will support you!
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>>139259882
Iris' death actually cheered me up from how stupid it was.
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>>139260008
This anime is making me want to do it, and I haven't written shit since I was a kid.
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>>139259808
>http://strawpoll.me/7214604
>Lise

Not even a contest, all other death where pure mess.
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>People unironically vote for Lise.
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>>139260066
D- Don't tempt me, anon!

>>139260085
Muv-Luv can do that to people. Introduce perfectly good waifus/bros and kill them off.
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>>139259883
really nice, shame i don't understand but the images are enough
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>>139260147
The only death that really had focus and wasn't dumb. What you expect?
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>>139260008
Go for it!
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>>139260152
How can I convince you anon?

>>139260085
I know that feel...
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>>139260233
>wasn't dumb
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>>139260209
That's why the BBC made the book!
Follow their link to buy(MSRP ‎£0.00/ $0.00)!
It provides translations to all the posters
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Can someone post the world map of TE?
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>>139260240
Fuck, I would too if I wasn't in the mountain of college work right now. I've had this idea bouncing around since I took a look at Luv and Hate.
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Who /NVA/ here?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7CC7i6brEI
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>>139260319
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>>139259883
Your the best anon.
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>>139260401
>http://imgur.com/a/4tnrL
thank you anon
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>>139260319
What the fuck do you mean "world map of TE"? Wouldn't that be the same as the main trilogy?
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>>139260291
oh thanks m8, i watch it really quickly and didn't see the english part
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10 Hives in Russia...poor redcoats...
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>>139259808
>Lise
Fucking cuckfags
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>>139260470
12 actually
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>>139259808
They should've added some tears to her as she closed her eyes for the last time.
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>>139260470
9 -_- I fucking counted the one in kaz...
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>>139260493
>A woman is written by Japs as being tortured and raped repeatedly, then forced into being a honey trap for an infamous agency known for having informants everywhere in case something is leaked! What a slut!

Here's your (You)
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>>139259808
Beatrix died, /a/ smiled

Iris died, MAL, reddit, AnimeSuki and Wikia in tears.
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Best ass will never save your ass.

;_;
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>>139259808
Hardest in what sense?
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>>139260626
Noboy smiled. We were busy fapping to penetration
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>>139260626
>3
Iris who's that?
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>>139260626
I'd say /a/ was pretty half and half.
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>>139260239
>>139260240
>>139260348
Dammit, anons! Okay, I'll vomit some ideas out and write something tomorrow if there's a thread up tomorrow.
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>>139260626
No, the wiki is mourning Beatrix pretty bad and ridiculing Iris right now.
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>>139260704
I love you anon!!!!!!
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>>139260704
Thats the spirit. The best thing creativity can do is inspire more creatives.
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>>139260008
>>139260240
>>139260085
>>139260066
>>139260152
>>139260239


That's pretty much why I've been dropping so many fixfics in the thread. Even the Master (and Annette) kidnapping Yui is more fun than what actually happens.
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>>139260725
Most of the wikitards post here or on /m/ anyways.
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>>139260835
Why can't we make thousands if we probably write better than half of the authors who do this shit? Is it literally just motivation and knowing people?
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>>139260835
Thank you anon, they were definitely some of the best parts of these threads.
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>>139260931
Exposure and networking yeah.
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>>139260626
miserable waifufags and your generic waifushits.
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I want to write fanfic too but it would just turn into porn.
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>>139261028
Follow that desire anon, write with a passion and you might surprise yourself.
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Beatofags confirmed obnoxious samefags.
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Sylwia's and Walther's deaths were the most tragic.
Of anyone they deserved to retire to a quiet village.
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PACT PRIDE WORLDWIDE
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Gretel has developed a taste for semen. She's tearing apart a dirty kleenex that missed the trash can and apparently eating the contents. I should probably stop her but it's honestly pretty funny to watch. I suspect she's been getting into the waste baskets because I've been finding ripped up kleenex around the house and I'm usually pretty good about keeping things tidy.

Does anyone else have this problem with their pets?
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>>139259808
They butchered her end totally, and yet I still can't stop but feel for her end. Was it too difficult for them to at least have her cry while giving her smile? I mean, fuck, I'm not even asking for a gentle smile, but at least tears to show she was human.

Pham at least, her end was...serenity.

>>139260008
Literally any of us could write better than director at this point.

Lise's was also fucked up from the LNs, not saying she shouldn't have multiple ways to die, but Director didn't even have Theo at least hold her hand, what the fuck.
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>>139261346
This was a shitty adaptation that still managed to be decent is what people have been saying.
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The remaining Farkas an I are marrying, any of you wanna go to the wedding?
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>>139261401
I'm busy but Be a good husband.
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>>139260725
>>139260838
I'm quite sure that person at least posts here too.

At least you spread the truth, good man
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>>139261294
>pets
Filthy subhuman get out reeeeeeeeeeeee.
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>>139261401

Will it be at the chapel of Mara in Riften?
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>>139261422
Thanks, I will. If you come later we may sitll have cake
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>>139261497
>Cake
Don't tell Iris
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>>139260725
He posted that exact quote in yesterday's thread.
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So fucking cute~
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>>139261483
Yes.
>>139261554
Thanks for the advice
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>>139261346
Yeah, Beatrix's end was violent and she never had the peace that Iris, Pham, or Lise got. Also, unlike those others, Yukarin made it obvious that she was in pain and dying. She just got Theo spitting her ideals back in her face.

There was also the factor of a powerful woman like her reduced to a helpless, quivering mess. It made her cute in a perverse way.
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>>139261401
Can Beato-san and myself come with our adopted "6 million Stasi dicks" child?
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>>139261630
That's the smile of "I'm trying my hardest to be positive right now". Quit pretending, Katia. Just cry.
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I'm going to marry Gretel and lick her armpits!
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Gretel doesn't die from a crash nor AK.
Anett cause others to die on her behalf.
Truely OTP
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>>139261630
katia is a good girl. Theo better not fuck up this time.
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この笑顔を守る
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>>139261701
Lise's death in the LN was totally miserable (she has been tortured before being executed by her on brother).
At least in the anime she died smiling.
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>>139261734
Purest love ending achieved
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>>139261707
I thought we had already sent you the invitation?
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>>139261707

Be careful, I'm going to make sure Lise catches the bouquet and then I'm going to marry her myself.
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>>139261830
Well, the LN death of Beatrix was worse too just because Theo decided to show his contempt of her as she died.
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>>139261785
He fucks up, and on top of that, dumps her, Iris, and Lise in favor of a busty brown blonde.

I really hope we get SM2, there's plenty of potential for one. At least a Theo-centered arc in DUTY, but I think a full-blown sequel series is possible.
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>>139261909
>marrying a corpse
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All the ones with big boobs died

Fuck the writers for being pedo dfcfags
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>>139261959
Everyones marrying a corpse right now.
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>>139261937

They're twins though.
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>>139262003
>implying
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>>139261988
Anett ain't flat.
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>>139260835
>>139260800
>>139260734
What would you guys want to see for a fixfic? Give me some basic ideas to toy around with: Would you want Theo to not be a massive retard, an OC donut steel, or people being smart in a given situation?
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>>139262017
Are they perky enough?
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>>139261988
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>>139261346
Just a tear running down her cheek as she closes her eyes would've clinched it.
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>>139261909
You better be a damn good husband.
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>>139262090
fuck off go back to wikia wikitard
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>>139262227
Well, he can't be the wikitard if I'm the wikitard.
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>>139262227
>wikitard
"no"
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>>139262090
A less dense and retard Theo.
Futhermore I'm actually suprised that he didn't thought about the reason he got out of the stasi hands.
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>>139262090
Just go for it Let it flow.
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In Total Eclipse Visual Novel/end of terrorism arc, Theo's actually sympathetic of Valentine? Based on his monologue on the train (which looks very, very similar to the one in the anime ending.) And then they cheered for the RLF "To our Martyrs" or somewhere along the lines.
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>>139262090
I can't speak for anyone else, but I want you to do as I and others have done, and write with your own wings. By which I mean writing with your own thoughts and desires and being free of the expectations of anyone else.
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>>139262090
Theo fucks every gril.
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>>139262310
Yes.
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>>139260626
Would you climb into the cockpit of a mortally wounded Beatrix and kiss her deeply, tasting her blood and saliva as she stares at you, eyes dilated in shock and too weak to fight you off?
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>>139262283
>>139262296
>>139262358
Alright, I'll see what I can do. We can attribute stupidity to author laziness, I think. They handwave a lot of situational stuff as "this is how it went, no one questioned it" so I figure if characters actually used their brains, a lot of shit wouldn't have happened the way it did.

>>139262369
D- doushio. Anon, I...
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>>139262412

No but I'd squeeze her hand until she's gone. Her lips belong only to Jurgen.
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>>139262412
I think she has the most kissable lips in all of Muv Luv.
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>>139262412
i'd hug her until life leaves her body
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My feelings towards Beato are nearly identical to the way Theo felt about Iris.
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>>139259860

Lise-chan
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>>139262412
So why didn't we get a scream or grunt when Theo stabbed her? Was it shock?
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>>139262630
Do you have lewd dreams about her like Theo?
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>>139262708
Different anon, but I have lewd dreams involving cuddling, snuggling, and handholding.
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>>139260000
>Most people probably didn't think Lise deserved the shit she got
Samefagging you mean
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Is there any place for moderate rebels here?
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>>139262917
No
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>>139260493
>Fucking cuckfags
Why are you surprised? The two top fanbases (Beatrix and Gretel) are literal cucks to Jurgen and Martin.

The "Lisefags" is just a contrarian shitposter who avatarfags a lot.
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I want to do lewd things to Irisdina.
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>>139263012
>two top fanbases (Beatrix and Gretel)
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Who /Gretel/ here?
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>>139263226
I'd lick her burnt crispy armpits
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>>139263226
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>>139263316
It's like a Laser-Class Ass.
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>>139263248
me too
>>139263316
An ass to defeat BETA
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>>139263226
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>>139262428
Late saying this, but backing everyone else in saying make a less stupid Theo.

Seriously, no sane person would listen to their beloved imouto rattle off all the horrifying shit she's done (from execution to giving up her body sexually) all to save you and be with you, and your first reply to her basically begging to come with her is "No. Now where is Iris?"

shoot me, $12
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>>139263405
Temporary setback
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>>139263405
>check your privilege stacis scum
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>>139263405
That's a cute boy.
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>>139263415
I think that was what fully killed my suspension of belief for Schwarzesmarken.
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>>139263415
>Waahhh I became a murderer and a whore listen to me
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>>139261630
That smile cost a lot of blood. And it will cost more. I still wonder if it was worth it.

>>139261711
Her stubbornness will cause death.

>>139261701
I'm still mad how they treated the death. It was supposed to be an extremely emotional thing, much more than it was in the anime. They didn't even have her cry, which in her actual death in the LN, she does, massively. And not because of the blade literally sawing her in half, though that was also causing unendurable agony which she couldn't faint and escape from. It's because the crushing toll of her horrible life finally came to a crescendo. And her one thing she stayed alive for, closed her heart for, her mission from Jurgen, was crushed by someone who may as well have been his spiritual heir. All she'd done, all she'd suffered, and made others to suffer, it was all for naught. She knew few would mourn her, many would speak the most ill of her after she died, the only living people who knew the whole truth either harassed or otherwise silenced.

She also smiled, because it was finally over. She wasn't worried about Hell - her life already was it. The one thing that had changed her, turned her around, gave her hope, had died a long time ago, and she had failed everyone else too, but when she failed even that burden, and all her other ties dead, she had nothing more to tie her to this world. So she smiled - Theo freed her. Maybe he would now realize the true suffering of trying to keep humanity alive for one more day. His pain, it had only begun.

But beyond that, too, she smiled because she could at least entrust someone with her ideal, whether they wanted to accept it or not. Humanity was now his to save, or not. She was happy because she knew who he was, and that he would do as Jurgen did - bear the burden for the happier day.

If I remember right, Theo is quite stoic during her death, but as the months pass in the epilogue, he starts to really get haunted by it.
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>>139263643
>Boo I hate emotions just show me the BETA and cute girls dying
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>>139262412
Hold her hand, give her something warm and comforting to hold onto like my flesh, and cuddle with her until she departs. No one should die alone.

>>139262668
Director was stupid, at least a shocked grunt would have sufficed.

>>139262708
What did his dreams with Beato involve anyways? His dreams with Iris?

>>139263415
Director is an idiot anon, just remember that.

MUH MATAEL

>>139263643
t. MAL
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>>139263863
I was meaning if he had dreams about Beatrix similar to Theo's about Iris.
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>>139263863
I'd be surprised if Theo didn't dream of Beo once in a while. He certainly noticed when she payed attention to him.
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>>139263756
Even Grappler's woes is far more emotional and impactful than Lise's whining
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I wonder how Iris would feel after both Beatrix and Lise are married with children, each to one the two men she had developed feelings for at one point or another in her life?

I think she would feel pretty low. Jurgen, she could rationalize. He was, after all, her brother. But it was frustrating to see Theo swallow his affections for her in favor of his own sister. That just wasn't fair, was it. She knew Lise had hated her at the time, both because of her association with Beatrix, but also because Lise was under the impression that Iris had murdered her own older brother, something that went against every fiber of Lise's being. And yet, she was forced to hold her tongue as people spread the rumors that she had betrayed Jurgen and shot him at the behest of the Stasi.

The worst for Iris was that she wasn't alone, she wasn't even pitied. Now that Beatrix had a ring on her finger, slept next to Jurgen every night, and had a couple of children with him, she didn't view Iris as anything more than her husband's sister. It was almost insulting to Iris that Beatrix leaned on her for babysitting. Once she heard the whole story, Lise was perfectly willing to forgive and even admire Iris for protecting her brother by taking the blame for his death. But Lise was also a girl who was happily married to her love. She and Beatrix both had what Iris wanted at this point.

And as Iris sat staring at an empty fireplace, pint glass of brandy in one hand, bowl of chocolate ice cream in the other, the worst part seemed to be that she had no legitimate reason to be upset. These people all loved her, as a sister, friend, or mentor. They wanted to be around her, and they wanted the best for her. But they each had what she wanted, and that was destroying her.
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>>139259808
They all hurt most
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>>139259948

The most hilarious part was them carting that background character carefully away on a stretcher, while Irisdina bled out for half an hour.

By far the weakest part of Schwarzemarken, which I enjoyed on the whole, was all characters getting to speak their dying words or at the very least, in Pham's case, conveying some sort of emotion. No one just got BTFO and was fucking dead.
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>>139264654
https://youtu.be/oabiay4m-yY
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>cum inside Gretel while licking her armpits
>marry Gretel
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>>139264561
>Moody Iris with a bowl of chocolate ice cream.
Now theres a sight to behold. Will probably give up on the serving size and indulge straight from the pint. That girl deserves her desserts.
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>>139264654
>>139264744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35y6kw7L7Ms
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Really liked the final confrontation between Axmann and Irisdina, even if it was a bit QUALITY. Her words probably caused more of an effect than the kicks and punches because those hurted his pride directly. Also amazing music but thats was given in the entire show
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>>139264696
>Not one
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>>139264696
All they had to do was either have her die in the snow or on the way to the hospital. Preferably the latter because then he could have had his little speech without it being contrived.
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>>139264781
I'd make Irisdina my wife and we would have a gaggle of kids.
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>>139264561
>she didn't view Iris as anything more than her husband's sister

Did their relationship cool or something, because Beatrix definitely viewed Iris as more than just a friend while Jurgen was alive.
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>>139264926
You suck as a director/writer.
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>>139264986
And yet it would still be better than what we got. Why don't you tell me your masterful ending, faggot?
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>>139259883
>>139260209
Of all the commie countries East Germany did have a good sense of design.
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>>139264926

That's the problem with shitty artists--all they think about are visuals and themes without any consideration for the minutiae the rest of us live by. They don't understand how normal people can't pay attention to their Art when we are like: FUCKING HELP HER. APPLY PRESSURE TO THE WOUND. FOR FUCK'S SAKE.
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>>139264945
Who needs a slutty stasi slut when you have perfection?
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>>139265069
Uh, no? Your choice is so dull and cliche just imagining it. Not because your idea makes sense doesn't make it good faggot. Stop feeling so entitled.
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>>139265143
And dying while watching the sunrise isn't cliche? Sorry for wanting competent writing.
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>>139265345
Nothing wrong with wanting competent writing but your suggestions a shit.
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>>139262630
Will her LN death basically be the same as the anime's?

VN Beatrix is just too pretty. I don't think I want to see a CG of her death
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>>139265079

That was a huge problem for me watching the shipwreck arc of TE, because they did everything wrong and it was absurd to watch.

>Drag the raft to the treeline
>Tie it to two trees for two points of contact.
>Flip it over
>Crawl underneath
>Share body heat.
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>>139264986
>>139265143

Okay, I'll bite. All you have to do is move the final confrontation between Iris and Axmann from the forest to the ridge. She flees on foot after escaping Axmann, but is unable to progress after coming to the cliff over Berlin.

Anette kills his henchman but gets shot herself by Axmann. She manages to throw the gun to Iris, who kills Axmann, but is also shot herself.

As she dies the sun rises over Berlin and she gets her dying words with Theodore. How about that?
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>>139265433
I'd take a shit ending that makes sense over a shit ending that doesn't.
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>>139259883
I wish there was a way for me to properly express how much I appreciate what you've done these past fews months. I'll miss you << buddy >>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuaQflZr3Fo
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>>139264654
>>139264744
>>139264804
These are some weapons-grade feels
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>>139264781

I was going to say pint of ice cream but she had a pint of brandy in the other hand.

>>139264960

Drunk and moody Iris perception versus reality. Beatrix likes to play with Iris but she also likes getting a night away from the Kids so she can win the Jurgenbowl again and again until the wee hours of the morning and, Iris resents facilitating that.

And Beatrix isn't Lise, she's not going to just sit on Iris' face kissing her husband while that husband slams Iris.
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>>139265583
>I think now, looking back, we did not fight the enemy; we fought ourselves. And the enemy was in us. The war is over for me now, but it will always be there, for the rest of my days
>But, be that as it may, those of us who did make it have an obligation to build again, to teach to others what we know, and to try with what's left of our lives to find a goodness and a meaning to this life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qir-MgJqG1o
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>>139265632
>And Beatrix isn't Lise, she's not going to just sit on Iris' face kissing her husband while that husband slams Iris.
What
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>>139264781
>Irisdina will never hold me down as she takes a feral postion above my body, helpless against any attack she throws at me.
>I will never be severely dom'd by Irisdina
Why live brothers?
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>>139265812
suffering
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>>139265812
Well, you don't have much time left either, Ragna
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>>139265812
I would rather dominate Irisdina and make her a blushing bride.
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>>139259808
The death of these threads.
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>>139265728

Lise would probably be more receptive to threesomes
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>>139266010
We will live on
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>>139266058
Only with Beato, shes pretty possessive.
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>>139259808
Beatrix, Lise, and Pham for me. Like others have said, Iris's death just felt contrived the way the anime showed it.

>>139265966
>Beatrix for blushing bride
>Iris for domination play
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>>139266150
They could at least have Ketchup shoot her in the chest
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>>139265506
>Anette kills his henchman but gets shot herself by Axmann.
This changes too many things.
Anett and the other rebels were informed already where Iris was. This can't be changed so the armed rebels will help regardless.

>Iris fleeing from Axmann
There's an established reason why she would chase Axmann despite being cuffed. I mean if she escaped after being aided by the rebels then she wouldn't die at all.

You would need to remove the part where Iris and Axmann CQC'ed, because if Axmann already drew the gun, then he would've shot Iris already before retrieving Anett's pistol.
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>>139265466
Her LN death was already out.

Her VN deaths, in every route, will be probably even more gruesome and sad. I will be sad.

I want to hope there is a chance to live.
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>>139266552
Iris should have had her dispute with Beato end with a duel in a TSF where in both are fatally wounded. Theo can have revenge by hunting down Axemann in those woods the way Axemann hunted his family.
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>>139266731
I think Axmann's GUN will be less gruesome than PENETRATION, but much more sad to make up for it.
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>>139266138

A Farka or a Katia would be fine to. Sometimes Lise wants an imouto of her own
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>>139266731
it will most likely be the Lise route, Beato can't really survive if Iris or Katia get their way. Theo can have his imouto back and win a new Onee-san while hes at it. Stasi end best end.
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>>139266731
There is always the hope she survives in Lise's route. And that Theo will kill Axmann there too
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>Berlin falls to the BETA later that year
>West Germany falls shortly after

How does it make you feel that everything that happened in Schwarzemarken was meaningless?
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>>139266874
>>139266877
Anons, do you really think she'd survive Lise's route? Axmann wants to kill her, and it'd be a poignant, emotional moment. Ironically, the one route I can only really see her possibly surviving in is Katia's route, and that's assuming it's as crazy as I'm suspecting it'll be after the Gregory reveal in the anime.
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>>139267024
Bad ;_;

HATO can't fight for shit
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>>139267024
>everything
Stopping Beatrix's perversion of Jurgen's dream was not meaningless.
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>>139266864
Would Lise be a bully as an older sister? I can imagine her taking advantage of Katia's submissive demeanor to make her do embarrassing things, taking the blame when someone steals from the cookie jar, and making fun of her when she wets the bed.
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>>139267024
Saving Germany of EbolAIDS wasn't meaningless

Imagine if Loose was allowed to spread her plague to London?
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>>139267027
Not really, but I think is the only route where she has a chance. Even in the Katia route either Gregory (I think that will be canon too) will kill her once he secures his position or the rebels will moderately execute her.
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>>139267195
I can see her surviving, at least for a while, in the Katia route because Gregory might decide to surprise her and the werewolves by rolling in with an entire squadron of MiG-27s, forcing her to team up with Irisdina to REMOVE KGB
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>>139267195
>rebels will moderately execute her.
erry time
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>>139267024

I wish they would animate the TSFiA shorts.

Would be cool to see the Thunderbolts in action when they covered the refugees escape from West Germany.
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>>139267362
song related
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2vbulh
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>>139267249
We'll have to wait. I think Gregory will arrest Beatrix and publicy pin the fault in her so nobody will complain when he executes her.
>>139267270
You know you love it
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>>139267430
They go the Ceausescu way?
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>>139267430
That's also a possibility, but having to team up with Irisdina seems more likely to me. Partially because it's something I hope for and it's about the only route where it's likely to happen, also because I'm a Katiafag and it'd be great to show her morally triumphing over Beatrix like that, and plus, the odds get kind of ridiculous and Pierre Spray-tier for the 666th if they only have MiG-21s and a few pilots to fend off the KGB and their fleet of MiG-27s. Especially if they reference real history and have young Sandek show up to play.
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Doujins when? porn when?

I'm getting tired of faping to Houmra and pretend that she is Gretel
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>>139267483
Yeah. It will probably be what pushes Katia to try to meke her own stance in things
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>>139267600
>not having a mental projection of licking Gretel's armpits and cumming inside her
Do you even Reality Marble?
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>>139267600
Never.
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>>139267605
>15 years old in charge of politics
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>>139267615
Every night my friend,but images do help
>>139267628
>we only have that ugly Iris doujin
fug
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>>139267628
>roughly fucked after shower

That's not Lise
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>>139267628
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>>139265812
Don't make me feel this
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>>139267605
She's already got her own stance. She wants full-on reunification while Beatrix and Iris have differing degrees of independence. Beatrix wants independence under a brutal repressive regime, whereas Iris wants independence under a democratic regime.
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>>139267592
Shouldn't Sandek be busy with his imouto at that point? And they will probably have western backup to fight the KGB. Katia's dream is unification after all.
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>>139267615
To be fair most of my mental projections involves Gretel's ass
>>139267775
>Katia gives away the DDR
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>>139267775
What I mean, is to be more assertive about it. So far she lacks a bit in that department, at least compared to Iris and Beatrix
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>>139267814
>Shouldn't Sandek be busy with his imouto at that point?
Alternate timeline, alternate shenanigans.
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>>139267775
>wants independence under a brutal repressive regime

Freedom and liberty wins
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>>139267885
Don't understimate the imouto power
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Katia shouted at the guys carrying fuccboi to help Iris too.
Iris stopped Katia and said it's a fatal wound, she wouldn't make it.
Theodor, Anett and the other rebels know this, and flashback to Inghild's death.
Anett kept apologizing she didn't know Axmann had a reserve gun.
Iris pats Anett, said she shouldn't blame herself.
Theodor could only stare with frustration, emptiness, and defeat.
Katia refused to accept this, so she ran away with Anett and both tried to seek help.
Iris held Theodor tight, making a gesture not to follow them.
She instead looked up and saw the nearby ridge.
Irisdina then asked Theodor to bring her there.

>Continued w/the anime ending.
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>>139268078
Director pls
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>>139266874
Actually, it seems to me at least that she would most likely die in Lise's route. Even if, the route could end on a bittersweet note, like Stasi Theo, Lise, and Beatrix and whoever is left succeeding in holding on till the bitter end, and the survivors arriving as broken shadows in London, with a pregnant Lise.

Maybe I just want to hope they're will be a secret Beatrix route.
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>>139267024
Nothing is in vain, when the blood of martyrs falls upon the bosom of mother Earth.

Ya Hya Chouhada!
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>>139259883
Thank you
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>>139259883
You`re the best, just the best.
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>>139268242
There could be a secret route its just damn unlikely. Nice thought though innit? At least there is a possibility of Beatrix having a more graceful end in a Lise route without being desecrated by moderates and their banal ways. Personally I'd like an entire alternate take where Theo is indoctrinated in stasi ways by bargaining for Lise's life instead but thats truly wishful thinking. Though there are chinese/jap fanfics with that exact premise. Best I can hope for is Beatrix getting an end that contributes to Jurgen's dream rather than signalling the end, at least of that interpretation of it, and Theo and Lise get to move west like their family intended from the start and have their peaceful life. Realistically every route will be variations of suffering.
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>>139268078
Easiest way to avoid this would be Theo being more proactive about his hatred for Stasi.
>Ketchup shows up, "Genosse Eberbach, I am here to-"
>BLAM
Problem solved. It would only up their timetable in all-out conflict with the Stasi.
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>>139259883
Genosse!
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>>139268586
Why is Lise so best? Seriously, I felt like shit after they butchered her.
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>>139267362

Well, we COULD make a Pit Masters OVA, but where would the SUFFERING come from? It's too Nobledark.
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>>139268586
To think the Lise route has the biggest chance of a happy ending. At least there Lise and Theo would probably fight for Beatrix a few months more as a way of saying thanks and then they would get the hell out of the frontlines to make a happy family
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>>139268586
If Katia's route isn't the most suffering-filled I'll send a strongly worded letter to cookie.
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>>139269334
The problem is either way Theo leans people are gonna die, and the 666th don't deserve to be at the stasi's mercy and punished for Iris' sake. It really comes down to who he decides to save in the name of true love, but he can't save all of them. Especially when they don't want to save each other. Beo and Iris could save everyone a lot of trouble by finding a compromise but by principle or vanity they remain opposed. There will be a Katia route, a Lise route, and an Iris route, but no common sense route.

>>139269098
Shes a simple girl with simple needs caught in a political upheaval way beyond her means.
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>>139269098
>after they butchered her.

It's like comparing cow dung to horse dung
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>>139269932
Do you like any of the Schwarzesmarken girls, anon?
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How many /a/non complain with CG in SM?

Aside BETA running speed, I think it's pretty okay.
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>>139270169
it isn't particularly bad
only problem is the fucking lack of TSF action
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I want to drink to Sylwia and Walther.
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>>139259808
;_;
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>Caught up to 10 just now
>Favorite characters from the onset were Senpai and Imouto
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Why is Theo a terrorist leader after SM?
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>make Katia drink alcohol until she passes out
>dye her hair blonde
>put ribbons on her
How big are chances Theo would do something like that?
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>>139270726
>Present-day in Alternative
>Master is sitting around with his many pop-up viewscreens seeing just who could be fucked with at the worst possible moment
>"Big brother, I have your favorite knife magazine!"
>Katia stands there in a maid uniform with blonde hair pulled into two pig-tails, tied with ribbons
>Just as planned oh god I miss you Iris and Lise.
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>>139270726
Katia isn't of drinking age yet, unless the stress of politics becomes too much to bare.
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>>139270703
A story for another time
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>>139270703
>His country, his family, his face, his identity; everything was stolen from him.
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>>139270918
>drinking age
>you can't drink but you can join the military, shoot a gun and pilot a giant robot that cost millions of dollars
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>>139271268
Welcome to 'merica.
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I want to headpat Katia until she purrs like a cat
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>>139271359
The extra files do say that normal society laws were thrown out of the window the moment they got their asses kicked in the moon.

Even in America they promote mass breeding until resources started to become scarce and they couldn't triage food, water and resources to refugee shitholes.
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Wasn't the revolution basically pointless.

East Germany fell one year later in 1984, all the revolutions achieved probably expedited the fall.
And despite everything the two German nations are still divided and the communist one being irrelevant so Katia failed.
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