Why is the art in Dragonball Super so fucking shit?
>>139224372
Not only the art, everything is shit because Toei knows that it'll sell anyway despite the stupidly low budget they give it...
>>139224372
because they're using newer techniques with less fuck
>>139224622
I thought Japanese people were supposed to uphold honor and dignity over profits
>>139224372
Why Vegeta's skin is so shiny in Super?
>>139224707
kek
>>139224372
Anime is a dying industry. Any show they cannot produce using CG will be complete shit.
>>139224707
Their honor and dignity lies in being useful to the greater cause, in this case, giving Toei money.
>>139224707
baka gaijin
>>139224707
TOEI does have a lot of western investors
>>139224707
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>139224622
THIS.
We've been over this already. Look at the art and animation in One Piece. It's shit as well, but it still gets perfect ratings since One Piece is one of the most popular animes in Japan since Dragon ball. Toei could probably put out fucking stick figure-tier animation and people would still watch because it's One Piece. But they're obviously not gonna do that since they have to make it look like they're putting SOME effort into it.
This is all just a freaking cash grab. Make no mistake about it.
>>139227063
That's all any series is, I don't know why people find it so hard to understand.
>>139224372
Has Toriyama commented on it at all? I wonder if he's pissed at how terribly Super is being treated.
>>139227063
Why are elevens okay with watching horribly animated shit?
>>139227063
>animes
>>139227188
Because the One Piece manga is insanely popular over in Japan, it's bigger than even DBZ was at it's zenith. So they gobble the anime up as well even though it's shit.
>>139227063
>>139227086
>>139227188
Except that when it's time for a big showdown or important battle, the animation quality improves all of a sudden. DBS has even less of that.
>>139224372
Probably because they'll fix it in the BD. This has been going on for many years. TV broadcast version is usually not as good as the home video version because money and being on a tight schedule. Also, consider it's Toei so you know just what the fuck you're in for nigger.
Someone post those pics of DBZ under different directors. You just never realized for whatever reason but even the original DBZ had bad moments. Especially under that one fucker who's name I can't remember.
>>139227174
Yes he has. He's disappointed with the animation and other aspects of the series.
Honestly the show was shit until this tournament. I'm pretty excited to see where it's going from here.
>>139224372
pinoys made that
>>139227771
>Honestly the show was shit until this tournament
yeah, then it turned to super shit
The Boo Arc was the pinnacle of the anime in terms of art. It's pretty beatiful.
>>139228455
>Boo Arc
Buu you retard. His name is Majin Buu.
>>139224707
That shit died during WW2 when they realize it was not giving them any buffs to fight off America
>>139228842
It's Boo in the jap version, buddy.
>>139224372
You chosed one of the best animated DBZ episodes for that pic. DBZ was well animated but it also had a lot of QUALITY moments/episodes
>>139230356
>DBZ was well animated
No, it was pretty shitty overall with a few highs.
>>139229699
>that WIP final flash
neat
>>139230375
That's some shitty bait anon, try harder please
>>139230634
But it's true. It's Toei. And they made way too many internal fillers for the thing to be watchable
>>139230661
>Yes, anon? Could you stop please that lame bait? You only look like a faggot.
>b-but muh animation!!
>>139231050
Stop acting like a retard
image made me laugh though
>>139229617
>no backbreaking legdrop to finish the job
I sure miss the old violent Vegeta
inb5 edgy - that's fucking freeza
>>139224372
because it's a series that's been dragged on since the 80's even though the creator's heart hasn't been in it for decades. if people would just stop looking at it it could finally be laid to rest, although far to late for a dignified one.
sometimes it's best to end on a good note while you're ahead.
>>139224707
This is what Jewpanese want you to think
>>139227644
>He didn't see how butchered King Kong Gun was
>>139229677
gohan was like 5 here and already bigger than goten
>>139232321
Gohan had a rougher childhood.
>kidnapped'n shit and draged around in some adventures with dad who almost got sucked into the dead zone
>taken by piccolo and left to fend for himself for a few months
>trained by hard ass alien who pulled no punches
>fights aliens
>gets dragged to another planet
>fights more aliens
>gets shit kicked in by aliens, unlocked some power potential by fuckhuge alien
>fights galactic warlord, holding him off long enough for dad to come and save them all
>goes home, hits the books, and oh shit, cell
>gets trained by dad finally, who is even more hardcore than green alien man
>goten
>gets trained by his mom
>never leaves earth
>>139230356
The quality in your pic is about the average level in Super though, which is really pathetic.
>>139229677
God, watching midgets fight in DBZ always looked like shit. No wonder they made Goku grow up.
Just watched filler Garlic Jr. saga. It was more coherent, dramatic and enjoyable than anything in Super so far.
>>139227063
>stick figure-tier animation
That's quite offending for stick figure animations. I've seen stick figures better animated than One Piece and Dragonball.
>>139224372
That wasn't the best screencap of Z you could have used
>>139227644
Even then, it's only decent at best.
>>139234418
Because it wasn't meant to be. It's just a normal screencaps vs normal screencap
DBZ characters were more buff, I guess they needed to tone the men down to appeal to the beta manchildren in Japan to be more relatable.
>>139232628
>gets trained by dad finally, who is even more hardcore than green alien man
Didn't Gohan say that Goku was softer than Piccolo at training?
>>139235176
>Because it wasn't meant to be. It's just a normal screencaps vs normal screencap
It's not. DBZ was very inconsistent with the quality depending on the team doing the episode. What you posted belongs to the best team. Just look at the diferences between two episodes. Uchiyama was the DBZ cancer.
>>139235320
As bad as DBZ could get, I never really noticed things like that when I was watching it, but with Super its extremely obvious
>>139235320
>Uchiyama was the DBZ cancer
How was this even allowed? It literally looks like an 11 year old drew this.
>>139235477
It can get even worse. Almost every episode Uchiyama made looks like shit. It's even worse if you can compare with the previous episode.
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>>139235629
90% of the budget of the Buu saga went to Goku vs Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu. The other fights looks like shit by comparison.
>>139235629
Buu saga isn't my favourite, but it honestly look fucking gorgeous. Maybe not all the time, but most of it is just great.
>>139235629
He's doing Pokemon now
Or he's committed to only Pokemon now
>>139228842
Funibabies please go.
It's Boo in the English manga and the Japanese version.
>>139224707
Nicememe
I suppose it also helps that the original had a manga source material which was drawn by someone who could really visually articulate what was going on
>>139236773
I doubt that.
Show your sources.
>>139235471
It's only extremely obvious because you weren't a cynical asshole as a child and you weren't constantly shitposting on.a forum about it.
I guarantee if you and your little friends ran around screaming "DBZ LOOKS LIKE SHIT!!" like autistic man children you would have realised it back then too.
>budget issue
>comparing yamamuro's animation to some rookie's
>this fucking thread
Jesus christ, just fuck off back to /v/.
>>139235471
>As bad as DBZ could get, I never really noticed things like that when I was watching it, but with Super its extremely obvious
Because
-You were a kid and didn't care about animation (like the kids this is aimed at)
-You're weren't a cynical over-anime'd /a/ poster who actually looked at things like that
-The picture was grainier and not incredibly clean so QUALITY moments stick out more now than then
So is Vegeta going to train him during their fight like Beerus did Goku in BoG?
Why are Superfags so fucking repulsive? I swear I've never felt so much contempt for a fanbase before these delusional retards showed up.
>>139235477
You basically have people that are good for static low-motion/brooding scenes, i.e. the high-detail scenes some people are posting, while you also have people that are good for high-motion/action scenes, but prioritize that above detail, i.e. the QUALITY we usually see
>>139224372
Noob artists that can't draw fights. they can only draw powering up scenes
>>139236773
In Japanese it's ブウ
>>139238898
He looks so playful it'd be so hard to be afraid of him
>>139235629
>This animation wasted on a boring filler fight where nothing happens
>>139239144
That's DBZ in a nutshell honestly. I don't know if it comes across like that in the manga, but the anime is 99% filler, even the fights where every punch and blow is seemingly inconsequential.
That feel when you realise that the Pokemon anime looks amazing every episode
>>139239285
>I don't know if it comes across like that in the manga
It really doesn't.
Like I remember Goku's SSJ3 tranformation is like an entire episode when it's like half a chapter
>>139239700
Significantly more money
Also, that's like the only anime the studio works on
>>139239728
Why are you so defensive?
Can't someone praise an anime's art quality without you spergs jumping to "T-t-thats only because of reason X! If they were in the same boat as anime Y it'd be the same!"
>>139239285
Manga is super fast-paced. Goku SSJ3 vs Kid Buu is like 2 minutes long.
>>139240723
>Vegetto vs Buuhan is like 3 anime episodes
>Less than 1 manga
Fucks sake, they even made him fight in base form when the first thing he did in the manga was going SSJ.
>>139240870
It was short in the manga but the asswhopping was even more glorious
>STRONGEST CANDY IN THE UNIVERSE
>>139224707
That ended after America buttraped them. They then realized that their honor and dignity is only good for getting them fucked over.
>>139238734
This.
I cannot even understand why anyone would bother defending Super. It's not just the terrible animation, but even the ""plot"" is ridiculous, even for DB.
Re-hashes of two movies and a tourney arc? A new Saiyan transformation that is literally a DeviantArt-tier OC DONUT STEEL recolor? It's terrible.
>>139241178
Why don't you talk about other anime instead of shitposting in these threads for the people that do like it
I like the story that's going on right now.
Your buzzwords mean nothing.
>>139238421
I hope so.
I don't want him to get a stupid strong power boost that somehow makes him God level.
Vegeta raging him towards SSJ is enough. Even if he's barely stronger than Frost, Vegeta would have set him on a right path.
Also, Cabbe being SSJ officially makes him the strongest on Planet Salad right?
>>139235629
Buu Saga was the best of all Dragon Ball
>>139235678
The other fights didn't looked as good as that one but still were great. super fag
>>139240165
He isn't being defensive pokemon faggot. Just because pokemon looks better it doesn't mean is good. the plot is fucking boring and full of filler
>>139242999
Nah nigga, Android/Cell saga is where it's at. It had everything
>good fights
>all characters actually did something
>super saiyan ascension on multiple levels
>super namek
>time travel
>ending without Goku for once
>>139232628
But Chi-Chi's got to be 10x more hardcore than Goku so Goten should be buff as fuck
>>139243123
You're also being a defensive dumbass.
All he said was that the anime looks great and here you guys are trying to bash the story unprovoked.
/a/ is a beautiful place
>>139244498
thats your opinion but in my case i got into Drahon Ball thanks to the Buu Saga. It didn't take himself too seriously as the other ones were it felt just silly. plus it had great a funny fights like Gotenks vs Buu, Buu vs Gohan, Vegeta's death, Buu killed everyone on earth unlike Cell or Frezzer and the final fight and Genkidama was EPIC. For me the worst one is the Cell Saga. two androids more powerful than Frezzer?? BULLSHIT.
At least we still have Masahiro Shimanuki
>>139238421
>Hey it's my Dragon Quest IX character!
>>139245773
Do you really have to use the weeb terminology? It's Frieza, not Freezer, and it's Spirit Bomb, not Genkidama. For fucks sake.
>>139245920
Z still looked better
New anime in general is lacking some color saturation to give the imagery that pop
>>139245998
Nah I agree, I never really understood why they used such various styles/animators/teams (other than the obvious workload release and budgeting) so literally every episode not only looks different, but feels different. Digital animation just doesn't do anything for me.
>>139245946
I watched it in Spanish when it aired in Argentina so shut the fuck up
>>139246109
Modern anime makes everything look covered in oil and run through a simplifying photoshop filter. Doesn't help that half the animation is just lazy-tier flash/popsicle stick puppets/auto-tweening nonsense.
>>139246113
Spanish =/= Latin
And i found both dubs too weird.
>>139235477
>>139235320
Though i agree Uchiyama is shit, he pulled of some good scenes from time to time
>>139229820
>>139241057
Yes because murdering and raping three hundred thousand unarmed Chinese citizens is so honorable.
>>139245920
Quality and art aside, I hate the color of Super
>>139224622
this. look at one piece animation quality in recent years. they just dont care becasue they know millions of viewers will tune in anyway.
>>139224372
Production issues so they have to rush everything out of the door is what I heard
The baseline effort needed to produce digital anime is far below what it took to do cel stuff.
>>139247545
Good animation, horrible character design
>>139245946
>It's Frieza, not Freezer
Actually, it's "Feeza" but only because they fucked up writting Freezer (Nips can't into english).
>it's Spirit Bomb, not Genkidama
Actually, it's Genkidama. Saying Spirit Bomb is as retarded as saying "Spirall Ball" instead of Rasengan.
>>139224707
yeah but a business man is a business man and they all tend to be the same.
>>139235629
>Animation
Really good
>Artstyle
cancer, doesn't even look like DB
>>139227270
dw my nigger i got u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEzhxP-pdos
>>139245920
>>139245920
The problem with super is that skin isn't fucking shiny and goku and vegeta aren't skinny fags, they should be buff and cut
>>139229677
>tfw because of Kai I can't hear Stephanie Nadolny's Gohan anymore
Still not okay, can't believe they replaced her kid Goku too. Colleen Clinkenbeard just doesn't compare
Her Gohan during the Cell saga was pretty much perfect. Super Saiyan 2 was the highlight of Nadolny's Gohan
>>139247545
Why are DBZ fight scenes so boring?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6iefr1Z_-k
>>139251235
Anime only scenes are shit because they're literally 100% unconsequential
>>139251235
Because they literally looped animations.
>>139251190
>Gohan will never be as bad ass as his alternative future self
Why even live.
>>139251453
His future self is weak.
>>139251515
You've got it wrong. Universe 7 Gohan is powerful but weak, mostly because Chi-Chi won out in the end and he didn't balance his training with his studies. Future Gohan wasn't very powerful due to the one-sided circumstances he was forced to thrive in, but he was far from weak.
Unless you're referring to his portrayal in the manga, in which case, yeah. He was weak. Taken out in one blow, christ
>>139251826
Did future gohan ever get revived? I mean trunks could have gone to new namek right?
>>139229699
Good time were powerlevels werent still THAT important, now a guy with 100.000.000 can beat with his nipples a guy with 99.999.990
>>139224372
someone fucked up and its really disappointing.
>>139238421
He is vegeta's ubb
And cabe or whatever his name is became ssj using rage like it should be or toriyama got senile again and forgot?
>>139252120
No idea. All info on Trunks' timeline kind of just ends after he kills Cell and the Androids. Dragonball Xenoverse supposedly continues off from there, with the Supreme Kai of Time informing Trunks of his violating the rules of space and time by time traveling and pressing him into serving her as penanceto which she secretly confesses that there was no real violation and she just wanted company
>>139253005
Future gohan deserved better
>>139253355
If it's any consolation, they explore the possibility of a larger role for him in Dragonball Z: Shin Budokai for the PSP, where he's revived by Future Old Kai to help fight Future Majin Buu. Can become Super Saiyan 2 and receives his Elder Kai unlocked potential boost.
Unfortunately he's not voiced by Dameon Clarke like in History of Trunks so it's kind of a hollow victory. Gohan and Future Gohan at this point are two completely different characters - it was better that their voices made that evident, even if Dameon Clarke's voicing him was the result of their not actually having an adult Gohan to work with prior.
>Future Gohan receives his largest video game role in Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road, where he is brought back to life by Future Old Kai to help fight Future Majin Buu, along with Future Pikkon and Future Bardock. In the game, Present Gohan and Future Supreme Kai go to the Sacred World of the Kais to obtain the Z Sword, only to find that Gohan cannot remove it and then says that they may need the "chosen one", which is Future Gohan. They bring Future Gohan to the Sacred World of the Kais, and he removes it easily compared to the other Gohan. Later, the sword is broken by Present Gohan, which frees Old Kai, who proceeds to unlock Future Gohan's hidden potential, after which Old Kai gives Future Gohan his life so he can help fight alongside the Z Fighters because Future Trunks is having problems dealing with Z Clones (clones of the Z Fighters), Future Janemba, Future Cooler, Cell, Future Broly, and Future Kid Buu.
>>139254301
Thank you, anon
Would a "Hellsing Ultimate" style of release make a new Dragonball series any better, or just be a waste of time?
>>139253005
>Supreme Kai of Time will never reverse timeon just your dick so you can endlessly fuck her for hours with no ill effects and cum with full force each time into her eternally tight pussy.
