Cabba is a liar.
>>139168633
Nah, I'm pretty sure Vegeta pushed him into becoming a Super Saiyan. Note how Goku was saying that Vegeta was acting like a dick
>>139168887
Also, possible Vegeta training Cabba hype? Maybe at the end of DBS they'll be a Cabba vs Uub fight :^)
>>139168943
Uub's basically retconned out of the continuity. He's literally pointless now that Goku has a billion new opponents in multiple universes, and now that SSG made Buu's power pointless.
Maybe Cabba will replace Gohan.
>>139168887
I'd say that's retarded since the level of WAGE required to go SS is far more than you get from insults, but then again DBS had vegeta somehow figuring out how to turn SSG by himself, so the writing is consistently fucking shit.
>>139169377
Goten & Trunks got into SSJ like nothing.
>>139169446
Goten and Trunks learned at some point, we don't know how. After you learn it, it's not that hard to do it again.
>>139169275
Gohan got back to training. He'll be back in the mix next Arc at the latest. I think there's still a possibility of having making the tournament if Beerus complains about only having 4 fighters. Beerus beats Champa in rock paper scissors over it, and then sends Kibito to teleport to Earth to go get Gohan.
>>139169446
They're are half humans and stronger because Goku and Veggie were stronger.
>>139169644
He'll get a free powerup like he always does.
>>139169191
Uub isn't pointless. He actually looks MUCH more impressive now.
The goku he was battling wasn't just end of DBZ goku, this was Goku after he probably got powerful enough to fight evenly with Beerus in normal form. He was likely holding back against Uub, but even still, Uub held his own pretty good.
The point with Uub is that he has untold potential. Majin Buu itself had potential to become God-tier with the whole absorption thing. Hell, maybe it didn't even need to absorb a God Ki user? We've already been shown that Buu can EASILY replicate a technique via just looking at it. Kid Buu could probably somehow replicate God Ki. He did absorb some Kais afterall, and Kais have both normal ki and God Ki.
Damn, all these theories are really making me reevaluate Buu's power. He may still have been the greatest threat towards the universe. And yeah, I know that Fat Buu never replicated God Ki, but you have to remember that at that point, he was all good. It's possible that it's the pure evil side that could only replicate shit.
I mean, Fat Buu did never learn instant transmission after all.
>>139169758
How does this make any fucking sense. It shouldn't happen until later, so that's a retcon. And secondly, even if he exists, there's no reason for Goku to train him anymore, since Buu's power is now inconsequential and he has no need of making himself a new rival.
>>139169644
Future Trunks would be better. I hope we see what he has been up to. I'm more interested in his world than this one.
>>139169796
>The goku he was battling wasn't just end of DBZ goku, this was Goku after he probably got powerful enough to fight evenly with Beerus in normal form.
Don't be dumb. The end of DBZ has been written out. It literally can't happen as it did anymore.
>>139169765
That's the content of his character, really. Fueled by selflessness, unlike Vegeta and Goku's selfishness, so Toriyama gave Gohan power boosts as more of to say maybe which path is the more noble one. But a Gohan with the work ethic of a Vegeta or Goku would be unstoppable.
>>139169918
>Fueled by selflessness
You what
If he was selfless he'd work his ass off to be in a position to protect the earth, instead of becoming a pointless scholar because he likes books.
You know, great power, great responsibility. Gohan ducks it every arc.
>>139170001
Just cause he's misguided doesn't mean anything. He always fights for other people. Always. And now he gets it moving forward that he can't rely on his rage boosts and talent anymore. He actually needs to work to get better.
>SSJ1 Cabba will beat SSGB Vegeta
>>139169837
I do miss him, and seeing how he's helped rebuild the world would be interesting, but I don't think he's ever coming back.
What I hate is that they model him after GT Trunks in Xenoverse and DB Heroes. Yuck. That ain't Future Trunks.
>>139170240
He ONLY fights for other people when he's up against the wall. As in, fight for other people or have everyone you love die along with yourself and the earth.
He isn't selfless for SHIT.
>>139170264
The fact that Vegeta had to go Blue against Cabba means what exactly?
>>139169377
It might be different for U6 Sayians.
>>139170946
If it's easier for U6 saiyans then they should have discovered earlier.
>>139169837
Future Trunks is awesome, we'll probably never see him outside of xenoverse/DBH type stuff though.
>>139169819
>How does this make any fucking sense. It shouldn't happen until later
he's a newborn baby at this point in Super
>>139169191
Just like Frieza after the androids right?
>>139171036
True, but Cabba could be lying like OP said
>>139170708
it means Vegeta is tired of fucking around and wants to show off real power
>>139170708
Wanted to show how in over their heads Universe 6 are.
>>139169191
>>139169758
You know who is fucking pointless and nowhere to be found or mentioned?
Tarble
>>139170708
Prob that he expended too much energy and needs to take him out quick before he goes bust
>>139171438
I hate when they randomly introduce a brother or sister for no reason.
I like that Vegeta and Krillin know that Uub exists now.
>>139172158
>>139173033
This guy has never EVER been mentioned or even talked about again.
You would think that the brother of the main protagonist would be more relevant.
>>139173033
battles you will never see
Tarble vs. Raditz
which is worse
>>139173104
There are many characters that were misused.
Goten for example, is the only one to have gone Super Saiyan with pretty much no effort. Even Trunks had to stomp around the gravity chamber. The story does nothing with that, and Goten's basically a background decoration with everyone else now.
>>139173033
Raditz doesn't bug me, it's the whole Vegeta had a brother this whole time and never mentioned him thing, it's so lame.
>>139173530
>more talented than gohan
>actually likes to fight and train
>has a rival
>ignored completely
What a shame
>>139173530
Goten and Trunks were always comedy characters, you cant take them seriously, nor try to make sense out of it, everything about them is bullshit. You cant go fucking SSJ3 with no effort just because muh fusion, the amount of training needed to overcome the burden SSJ3 has is insane.
>>139173941
theres never a moment when its said he likes to fight.
its always implied he likes to play around like a child. or do you not remember how at the end of dragon ball hes being forced by goku to train when in reality he wants to go on a date? same with trunks.
>>139173817
It doesn't make sense because Raditz, Vegeta, Zarbon and Frieza were all very clear that there were only four Saiyans alive.
>>139169897
All that's missing is Bra, and she was always younger than Pan.
>>139171346
They're holding back because of Hit, episode just confirmed it. They're suspicious of him.
>>139173981
Never underestimate the power the fusion
>tfw Super probably won't last long enough for a ten year time skip and new characters
So what is next for Super, Universe 8 invades because of their lazy Gods?
>>139174393
Beerus quits his GOD job because he's bored and just wants to eat, overseer of the 12 universes demands that a new God gets elected, Whis, being afraid of this guy, joins Goku and Vegeta and search for a new GOD (As Goku and Vegeta are just mortals and won't live that long)
>>139174325
It's scheduled for at least 100 episodes, it's consistently in the top 10 anime airing every week, and it's made INSANE money through merch sales. It'll be around for a long time.
>>139169796
Why do Uubfags always come with the shitty excuse 'b-but he has untold potential' when in Super Goku made it clear he just wants more rivals, no matter if they are weak shits like U6 fighters?
This is clear as water, stop with 'Uub is the strongest shit' fanfiction. Beerus is strongh because he had millions of years to train and Saiyans have Super Cyan.
>>139173981
Goten and Trunks were easygoing because they were fucking kids, does people really want Sasuke tier characters?
Still they have the love for fight that Toriyama flushed down the toilet in EoZ. Okay, Goku wants to fuck off with his currynigga, but why didn't he let Piccoli or Vegeta to train them if he let Gohan? Just to make the currynigga more special snowflake?
>>139169765
>He will get a free power up
Except he is training his lazy ass since 0. It made since if he comes back stronger since he is traning his body and mind
>>139174890
>Scheduled for at least 100 episodes
Nope. Nothing gets greenlit for 100 episodes
>>139175409
It was listed at that by Toei Europe
>>139174030
Why are there speedwatchers in this fucking series?
Goten is like Goku, for him fighting is the most funny thing in the world. B-but that isn't a valid reason, muh edge, muh one chapter character.
Even now in Super Goten and Trunks are excited over the idea of fighting (they dropped their game to go to the battle field in RoF, they wanted to enter the tournament but they were told to fuck off) .
>>139174047
Actually it works because King Vegeta mentioned that the weakest Sayians are sent to far away planets.
>>139168633
Cabba is going berserk mode looking at the preview.
>>139174079
They are things that are retconned, like Goku telling Vegeta about Uub, Goku's absend in the five years before EoZ.
>>139168633
He is so skinny
>>139175844
It hasn't been at that point, yet. Super's taking place in the first few years since Kid Buu was beaten, the five years thing can only be retconned if something goes past this current arc.
>>139175944
>It hasn't been at that point, yet. Super's taking place in the first few years since Kid Buu was beaten, the five years thing can only be retconned if something goes past this current arc.
Actually we're at the 5 year mark because of Pan's birth.
>>139175903
well this is how Akira draws them now
>>139173033
Raditz is fine because up until that point, Goku didn't know he came from a species of intergalactic space raiders and also served as proving just how different the race was to Goku
He also told Goku that only a handful of Saiyans remained which was him, Goku, Vegeta and Nappa so if Vegeta did have a brother he would have been mentioned there or by Vegeta himself early on
>>139176012
Yes, so if things go past this current arc, it'll start getting retconned.
>>139175944
Anon, you can't into math or logic? Pan is four years in EoZ, Goku fucked off before Pan was born. Bulma said Goku didnt go to the reunions and he didnt visit. But Super is showing the contrary.
>>139176143
Pretty sure Goku never told Vegeta about Uub until the tournament.
How would you like it if Goku and Vegeta were killed and Goten and Trunks became the main characters?
>>139176155
Pan was five, Bra was four.
>>139174890
>Top 10 airing naime every week
>Insane money through merch sales
Source or bullshit. There is NO way this thing is in the Top 10 every week. From what I've seen no one is watching this shit.
>>139176143
Pan is FOUR years old, which means Goku should had fucked off before Pan was born.
>>139168633
Who didn't call it?
>>139176185
If Trunks got a new voice actor, it'd be okay. His JP child seiyuu is disgusting
>>139174047
I don't see why it doesn't. Tarble was so weak and such an embarrassment to the race he was basically exiled and no longer treated as a Saiyan anymore.
>>139176237
Pan's date of birth is 779 and the tournament with Uub takes place in 784.
>>139176254
Just like the rest of the JP seiyuus. Dub when?
>>139176220
Pan was born six years after Buu arc, she is four years old in EoZ, Bra is three.
Just started watching Super, when does it get good? And what the hell is up with King Kai's VA, he sounds bored as fuck
>Cabba at normal SSJ pushes Vegeta to SSB
That sounds like bullshit.
>>139176271
Tarble couldn't have been weaker than Goku
>>139176315
>Just started watching Super, when does it get good?
It doesn't.
>And what the hell is up with King Kai's VA, he sounds bored as fuck
He's sick a probably dying because he's old as fuck, they replaced him later on.
>>139176331
You have to remember he must be pretty tired after Magetta
>>139176353
why did Vegeta call Magetta a piece of junk? that was so mean
>>139176331
I'm pretty sure that shot of Vegeta is taken out of context. Cabba seems to be pushed to SSJ thanks to Vegeta, while Vegeta seems to go SSB for some other reason, perhaps to show Cabba what he could theoretically achieve.
>>139169819
Goku also wants someone to train.The whole Buu saga was about passing on the torch. If someone like Goku can start from a power level of 5 and get THIS strong, how strong could someone who starts from a power level of Kid BUU.
>>139176287
Just like Gohan's birth day in the wiki and the manga saying he is 16 years old in the Buu saga, when the wiki says he is like 17-18.
>>139176449
Pan can still be 4 during the tournament going by those dates
Not like you get a year older the second a year starts
>>139176425
Hit may be pshh... nothin personnell Dragonball edition, but never forget that Vegeta is a total edgelord too
>>139176448
>Goku also wants someone to train
not in super
>>139176425
Because if Vegeta developed any further and became nice he wouldn't have any fanboys
>>139176287
So shouldn't Goten and Trunks be like 14 at this point?
>>139176315
Skip till episode 29 or something.
>>139176344
Goku was sent off as a baby pretty much straight away though due to the Frieza thing, no time to be exiled.
>>139175240
They grew out of it. Goku was training with Goten at the beginning and he was complaining that he was missing a date.
>>139176506
12 and 13, still younger than Goku in the Piccolo arc
>>139176506
Gohan was way bigger than them when he was 9, do they fucking have krillin genes or something
>>139176448
It is never state Uub is at Kid Buu level, stop with that retarded fanfiction. Goku only wants more rivald, no matter how weak they are. This is established in this arc. And before you say b-but muh base Goku with god ki, Goku can switch from normal ki and god ki like this arc is showing.
So Vegeta will mop the floor with Cabba right?
What's the deal with Monaka anyways? Is he a scam? Why would Beerus need to lie about him?
>>139176233
http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timerrecording_td/20160325/index.html
Check animation, Dragon Ball Super is in the 10 spot. One recent episode got up to five in viewership. Kids are watching the FUCK out of this.
The sales have gotten to the point where it's overtaken fucking ONE PIECE. It's competing against SENTAI and WINNING. Dragon Ball is making money like it always has been, Super's put fresh blood into the sales.
How strong are Goku and Vegeta now, in their base forms? I've heard people say that their at Super Buu level, but that would be 4000x their Buu saga base, which is ridiculous.
>>139168633
Super was a mistake.
>>139176546
Not to mention Gohan's appearance changed all the time as he aged. Goten and Trunks (who are both half saiyan and half human like Gohan) look exactly the same.
>>139176703
Toei's wallets say otherwise.
>>139176665
For Goku, going red super saiyan god infused its power into him as a whole so he's probably stronger than Super Buu without even trying now.
It might be different for Vegeta because he got Blueper Saiyan naturally.
The power curve is a literal joke now. Just don't worry about it, they're strong enough for whatever the writers think would make interesting television.
>>139176665
Anywhere between Buuhan and base Vegito tier in base.
>>139176665
android 16 strength
>>139176514
And Super is just showing how they get a boner with the posibility of fighting. And we are like 3-4 years from EoZ. That's just Toriyama being a lazy shit trying to hype Uub, just like in RoF with Roshi>Yamcha, weakened SSJ Gohan>Piccolo after six years of training. Fuck Toriyama for wasting Goten and Trunks' characters like that.
>>139176807
There's still plenty of time for Goten and Trunks, Super is getting more and more popular
>>139176602
Why would a reborn kid buu not have kid buu strength? That seems a bit odd, but ok sure. Maybe Uub's not very strong. I still think Goku just wants to transition from fighter to master for more capable fighters.
>>139176855
How is U6 so weak? Is it just the tournament style, where the first guy probably could only lose because of rings outs?
>>139176659
Time recording has many version and the 10 spot is only in one region literally one and there are tons of other region in japan. You have talked out of your ass
>>139176546
Goku's aging was wonky as fuck too, and Goten is a straight up copy of kid Goku so I guess they are going with that even if it didn't apply to Gohan.
>>139176602
>>139176856
Well, Uub did have enough strength to give a kick strong enough to cause Goku's arm to vibrate.
>>139176807
The timeline has been slightly altered. It's only a year or 2 after Buu saga, as stated at the begining of the anime it has only been 6 months.
>>139176752
Toei selling anime and logically think it didn't sell well because the dvd and bd number is not even ranked on oricon.so i doubt toei making money by selling super bd and dvd
>>139176960
So Pan is going to be ~10 instead of 5 when Goku fights Uub at the tournament?
>>139176888
http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/top10.htm
I can list other sources. You're the one talking out your ass.
Here are last week's numbers if you want them:
1. Sazae [13.2%]
2. One Piece [9.2%]
3. Chibi Maruko [8.5%]
4. Detective Conan [8.2%]
5. Dragon Ball Super [6.3%]
6. Kindaichi Case Files R [4.4%]
7. Yokai Watch [4.3%]
8. Pokemon XYZ [4.0%]
9. Maho Pretty Cure ! [3.7%]
10. Folktales from Japan [3.6%]
If you want more I can get them for you. Sites have been keeping track of these things.
There's a reason Toei rushed into this timeslot: it guarantees millions of kids will be watching, regardless of quality.
>>139176884
Probably none of their fighters got to train with the God of Destruction
Look at it the other way around, if Goku and Vegeta didn't meet Whis then they'd probably lose even against Frost
>>139174169
But SS2 should be enough to beat a just-turned-SS1. Hell, even SS1 Vegeta should easily be able to handle it, his non-SS form at this point is at least a tenfold stronger than him and Goku when they just turned SS.
Whats probably happens is that Vegeta is playing around, taunting and pushing Cabba until he goes SS, then gets annoyed for having to break a sweat against a mere SS, and unnecessarily goes SSB to show off he's in another league. And then Vegeta will fuck up, lose by ring out or something, because he's too arrogant and not being careful.
>>139177064
Probably. Honestly the way I see it, at this point Super is just Toriyama having fun with his characters at their prime. I don't think he was ever one to get hung up on details like time or age.
>>139176960
It is not altered but super just contradicting canon both GT and manga canon. it full of mess everywhere here and the tbf
>>139177091
doubt it, Goku could go SSJ3 and completely wreck his shit
>>139177114
I can dig it. Vegeta gets BTFO by being overconfident.
>>139176856
Because as DB has showed it just gives you more potential , but uf you don't train you are weak aa shit. And Goku just wants more rivals, this arc is giving you the answer.
>>139177088
'Top rated data' site is based only on one region you dumbass
>>139177153
>GT canon
>>139177205
>http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/top10.htm
I meant this site
>>139175409
Of course it's going to run for may episodes. They're making a shit ton of money compared to the low production costs. They're getting away with having the animation done by interns at a Vietnamese studio or something, why walk away from that deal?
>>139177091
Piccolo was fighting evenly with Frost, probably couldn't beat him though, but Frost wouldn't be able to fight the next guy. Buu would sweep everyone else thus far
>>139177205
Episode 1 - TV 7.9% (4th) - DVR 43.3 (6th)
Episode 2 - TV 5.6% (7th) - DVR 83.4 (2nd)
Episode 3 - TV 7.0% (5th) - DVR 94.2 (2nd)
Episode 4 - TV 6.3% (7th) - DVR 75.8 (3rd)
Episode 5 - TV 5.3% (5th) - DVR 65.3 (5th)
Episode 6 - TV 5.2% (6th) - DVR 55.5 (6th)
Episode 7 - TV 6.0% (7th) - DVR 100.0 (1st)
Episode 8 - TV 6.2% (7th) - DVR 56.8 (7th)
Episode 9 - TV 6.1% (6th) - DVR 100.0 (1st)
Episode 10 - TV 5.1% (8th) - DVR 59.7 (7th)
Episode 11 - TV 5.0% (5th) - DVR 61.0 (6th)
Episode 12 - TV 4.7% (7th) - DVR 56.6 (6th)
Episode 13 - TV 6.6% (6th) - DVR 57.9 (5th)
Episode 14 - TV 5.5% (8th) - DVR 61.8 (7th)
Episode 15 - TV 6.5% (7th) - DVR 56.7 (8th)
Episode 16 - TV 5.5% (8th) - DVR 53.2 (9th)
Episode 17 - TV 5.6% (9th) - DVR 51.3 (8th)
Episode 18 - TV 5.8% (8th) - DVR N/A
Episode 19 - TV 6.6% (7th) - DVR 51.2 (9th)
Episode 20 - TV 5.5% (8th) - DVR 50.7 (9th)
Episode 21 - TV 5.0% (7th) - DVR 55.5 (8th)
Episode 22 - TV 5.8% (7th) - DVR 47.6 (8th)
Episode 23 - TV 4.7% (9th) - DVR 52.4 (9th)
Episode 24 - TV 6.2% (5th) - DVR 53.4 (6th)
Episode 25 - TV 5.7% (3rd) - DVR 50.5 (6th)
Episode 26 - TV 4.9% (7th) - DVR 50.4 (7th)
Episode 27 - TV 5.2% (7th) - DVR 58.0 (9th)
Episode 28 - TV 6.0% (7th) - DVR 58.0 (9th)
Episode 29 - TV 5.3% (9th) - DVR 53.8 (10th)
Episode 30 - TV 6.7% (6th) - DVR 53.5 (10th)
Episode 31 - TV 6.6% (8th) - DVR 54.7 (10th)
Episode 32 - TV 7.3% (7th) - DVR 54.6 (10th)
Episode 33 - TV 5.7% (8th) - DVR 60.4 (9th)
Episode 34 - TV 5.7% (7th) - DVR 56.9 (10th)
Episode 35 - TV 6.3% (5th)
Full ratings. If you have things that contradict them then please, show your source. I'd like to see it.
>>139177217
yes it is canon and not contradicting anything unlike super that contradict anything and everywhere
Daily reminder that Fat Buu is weaker than Majin Vegeta
>>139176957
Laser meme gives you the answer, Goku is holding back.
>>139177267
Philippine, actually.
>>139177293
I don't say it is contradicting i dunno much about japan chingchong site but that rating come from only from 1 region literally 1 you dumbass
>>139177305
>Dende forgets he can heal
First episode.
>>139177376
Also the Black Star Balls that the radar couldn't pick up on and were never mentioned once
>>139169765
>He'll get a free powerup like he always does.
Are we really saying this when DBS starts with Goku getting power from a fucking fetus?
The series that took the end of various movies and specials and slapped a red filter on it, and called it a new mode?
>>139169644
You're goddamn crazy to think that Gohan's doing anything other than jobbing now.
>>139177305
Are you for real?
>>139177405
Plus there's basically all of Super 17.
Fucking Super 17.
>>139177376
He never forget he use senju you dumbass. dende cannot heal quickly of two passed out people. senju did much better this is so stupid to be asked. dende just a fucking noobs and weak how can they heal powerhouse like goku and ubb that loss all their strengt quickly.
>>139177271
To be fair Frost was very tired and damaged from his fight against Goku, remember that before poisoning him he was almost fainting
I can see Buu doing well though, besides rules shenanigans
>>139177493
>Heals Vegeta from near-death instantly
>Needs to use a senzu
>ASKS FOR A MEDKIT
>>139177493
Oh my God please go back to Mexico
>>139177493
What about the time he healed Vegeta after Krillin blasted a hole in his chest?
>>139177483
super 17 doesn't contradict anything
>>139177556
That is long a go before goku become far above ssj3 in base level as stated in rildo arc
>>139177578
Its doesn't make any sense that 2 17's can somehow beat all of the Z Fighters when really he shouldn't be stronger than Perfect Cell
>>139177578
>17 WAS ALWAYS SUPPOSED TO BE STRONGER THAN CELL
>WE'LL MAKE A NEW 17 FROM SCRATCH!
Sub is out
[Pafu Subs] Dragon Ball Super 036 [1280x720 x264 AAC].mkv
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=797583
>>139177570
That is a long long ago when vegeta still a newbie and goku not making hole but he lost all his strength together with oob too.
>>139177612
Nigga Dende losing healing makes no sense. It makes less sense for him to ASK FOR A MEDKIT.
![[SOFCJ-Raws] Dragon Ball Super - 036 (THK 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_21.06_[2016.03.27_01.59.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Kmf2hne.jpg "[SOFCJ-Raws] Dragon Ball Super - 036 (THK 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_21.06_[2016.03.27_01.59.23].jpg")
small head Vegeta
>>139177616
at least it is fusion and believeable unlike the unbelievable golden freeza that literally only train in 4 months can go above ssgss.
>>139177767
Its not fusion though, its just adding them together, other types of fusion have a synergistic element which is why their so powerful
>>139177640
Yes so what? robot being much stronger human product never have been a question from arale until android arc. even cell affraid android in it noob form
>>139177767
>>139177830
>>139177890
Do you have mental problems?
>>139177830
Yea like that ear ring you dumb ass
>>139177931
Stop sperging you idiotic manchildren.
>>139177949
At least that has magic as an excuse and an explanation, Super 17 just shows up and is strangely powerful
>>139177761
I just had to.This is actually the correct face size for that body.
>>139178002
you idiot dr gero suicide bomb can even destroy planet kaio completely to dust and kill goku that something goku in super in ssj3 form never be able to do that eventhough he keep shooting it in full power.
>>139170708
It's a mess if even SSJ1 Cabba is a match for SSJ1 Vegeta.
SSJ Goku and Vegeta is nearly at SSG level. Toriyama basically said something along the lines of, after the fight with Beerus, Goku realized mastering the SSJ form is more powerful than SSJ2 and SSJ3. He got a glimpse of a mastered form during the battle against Beerus, where he was much stronger than SSJ2 and SSJ3 as a SSJ. I suppose the idea is, you learn the body of SSG, and then you are able to channel that ability into the SSJ form. After mastering it, you can then put God Ki in it to make it SSGSS.
So, SSJ Goku and Vegeta are noticeably stronger than SSJ3 Goku would be, so how the fuck would a newly transformed Cabba stand a fucking chance in hell against even SSJ Vegeta? Makes no sense.
>>139177661
"Vegeta, did you forget the rules?"
Vegeta confirmed for getting disqualified.
>>139178002
wow you're an idiot if you think fusion dance has any explanation. no you dumbass. it is as many as any other fusion skill technique explanation and how absorbing android can make you very strong in cell arc. it is actually much more believable
>>139178121
Chance are he'll go SSJ against Vegeta's SSJ, after a few blows Vegeta will power up to SSGSS, Vegeta has already seen to be interested in Cabba and so the whole "This is my true power, wanna be by trainee" thing might happen.
>>139178152
Cell is fully organic, thats a false equivalency
>>139177661
From DragonTeam to Over8000, how would you rate these subs?
>>139178121
He is much stronger than Goku and Vegeta before they first reached SS. Maybe training to a very strong base form and going SS late is more optimal.
>>139178230
With subs coming out this fast take a wild guess.
>>139178217
I just mean, even if Cabba at base is near Goku's base prior to DB Super, Vegeta right now at regular SSJ is stronger than he would be at SSJ3. Toriyama basically said SSJ2 and 3 are not new "forms", but just releasing the power of SSJ. Well now, they can fully release the power of it having experienced SSG. SSJ Vegeta now > SSJ3 Goku prior to Super. In fact, base Vegeta might even be a bit stronger now, although it's hard to say exactly. So Vegeta should realistically be able to defeat SSJ Cabba in 1 hit, perhaps even in base form.
>>139178298
I can't. HorribleSubs releases CrunchyRoll's subs quite fast and they have lots of mistakes, yet Over8000 pumped up great quality translations, just like Over-Time does with Super Sentai and Kamen Rider, which is why I'm asking.
>>139178217
cell is stated as android you dumbass. oh well gtg
>>139178330
He's probably also quite worn out after the last fight, it was in pretty bad conditions
>>139178387
Tell me, did the non-organic parts you speak of grow back after Cell self destructed and came back from just a single cell?
>>139178265
That's true, but I believe SSJ is supposed to be a flat 50x multiplier. It's true that SSJ3 is supposed to be 8x SSJ, but now that Goku and Vegeta understand the god form, my guess is, their base is being pushed to its limit(much stronger than it used to be), so the 50x multiplier for SSJ makes SSJ so powerful that trying to power up to another level, SSJ2 or SSJ3, these levels simply don't exist anymore for them. They've reached every inch of their power. The general idea now, as Whis alluded to, is it's not a "strength" thing as much as it's all about ability now. Learning how to fight without thinking. They've maxed their pure strength more or less.
So, it's still the case that, Vegeta, who is basically as strong as you can possibly be, would wipe the floor with Cabba, who has never experienced the power of SSG even. He should probably even be able to do it at base.
>>139178633
>Getting stronger requires fighting without thinking
This show is getting retarded. I liked it back when DB was all about tactics
>>139178217
stop saying something stupid there is no proof that android cannot do fusion dance or using earing to fuse. it's magic blabla you seem like to spit anything random without proper logic and explanation. implying all magic in db not just an ambiguous being magic or not because the magic permanent physical effect can be dispelled by random unexplainable force like in boo saga.eventhough it's unrelated matter.
>>139178686
I never stated that they can't do the dance or use the earrings, they probably can, but Super 17 didn't do the dance or the earrings
>>139178671
if it makes you feel any better, goku threw an opponent out of the ring recently
>>139168633
>>139175903
>>139176043
this is interesting because i thought gohan was simply too skinny now to sustain his super saiyan and other forms.
Cabba looks skinnier than that.
))spoiler)%**(+_but i like him_+)(-spoiler((
>>139178623
toriyama doesn't explain shit but the core might have been machine and can replicate cell but who cares it doesn't prove anything except just going a long with your silly theory
>ywn see Ultimate Gohan again
He has such a good design
>>139178330
You're forgetting this is DBS, anything after DBZ Frieza arc was inconsistent as fuck, and anything in Super is even more so.
>>139178711
You dumbass and dance has any logic behind it?except hey you don't go above my ki power and zap we can gattai like a robutts!
>>139168633
>>139178734
Oh, also, have you noticed that cabbas armour looks like it's from the roman empire?
Roman empire, blonde hair green/blue eyes thing - The saiyan Aryan master race comparison just keeps popping up with Tori.
>>139178761
nah, theres proof that cell is organic. he even lived in a little incubator. the android thing i think is partly semantics, because he calls all of his creations androids, even though 17/18 are actually cyborgs, not androids.
>>139178801
Yeah Romans were definitely all blonde blue eyed Germanics.
Oh wait.
>>139178230
>From DragonTeam to Over8000
From "The best available" to "so good that the best say they're not doing episodes that Over8000 have already done" isn't a wide scale.
it's like between 10 to 9.9
>>139178833
yes as organic as android 17 and 18 at best.
>>139178839
I don't want to sound like /pol/ here, but have you ever seen a roman painting or coin?
The roman empire fell, so the currently romans are not blonde haired white people, they are mixed.
Before that though the romans spent a long time having babies all across Europe, which together with germanic influence is why we have white Englishmen who look like roman painting and statues and Europeans who are also white.
>>139177088
It isn't "regardless of the quality". the new director just had to take his marks. That last episode was fine. not good, in term of standard animation, but fine. And for a long-run anime such as Dragon ball, it's good.
>>139168943
>Goku and Vegeta become Gods of Destruction after Beerus and Champa retires
>Goku the god of his own universe, and Vegeta the god of the universe where Saiyans still have their own planet
Checkmate, Toriyama.
>>139178833
You dumbass cell is programed ( personality, goal, form, etc) by dr gero computer how can an organic be programmed by a computer.
![tumblr_lwnbxtVFJj1qfayz4o1_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/aHpGXAq.gif "tumblr_lwnbxtVFJj1qfayz4o1_500[1].gif")
>>139178778
That picture hurts to look at
>>139179021
You are retarded, anon. This is an anime. They fire fucking rays at each other and destroy planets while farting.
>>139179021
i dont know, how can goku turn his hair blue and fire blasts out of his hands?
>>139178833
They are called androids in the Japanese version too?
Afaik almost all dubs had them as Cyborgs.
>>139179046
> backpedaling
That is my original point you fucking dumbass just because you cannot understand your own posting doesn't make people as idiot as you.
>>139179100
Now you cannot into logic? no proof , spit shits and cannot into logic to you're perfect dumbass?
>>139179109
yeah, they were called androids. cell is just called an android for no apparently reason, but hes organic. he even grows from a tiny little embryo into a full sized being, and can't absorb fully mechanical androids afaik
>>139178883
Alright, from Guess subs to Over8000.
>>139179168
what the fuck are you even saying? just because we have a gook site owner doesn't mean this isn't an english speaking site
>>139179195
It's a 5/10
>>139179215
>crying
>>139178965
Roman paintings and art generally depict them as varying shades of brown hair, with usually green or brown eyes, and white skin. Guess what your average Italian looks like?
Blonde blue eyed Roman art is relatively rare, and doesn't really change anything. You know there are plenty of blonde people in Italy, right? Due to population sizes, there are probably as many if not more blonde haired people in Italy than in Sweden.
TL:DR no, Romans were not Germanic or Scandinavian, back to /pol/ with your WE WUZ ROMANS AND SHEEIT.
>>139179189
now you go gack to try to use logic. stop being total hypocrite idiot you dumbass
Shouldnt his hair be more golden? Or did he reach Full Power SSJ1 right away
>>139168633
So do U6 Saiyans have slightly different eye shape due to not mixing with the Tuffles?
>>139179021
Those weren't programmed, that's just evolution. His personality came from the computer speaking to it over and over again
>>139179252
You need to study more, this isn't under dispute historically. Romans were white and I'm not actually from /pol/ which is why i mentioned that.
All respectable sources agree, Romans were white and when the empire fell they became less white, as the barbarians and other cultures took over and bred with them. Those white Romans were basically the aboriginal people of current Italy.
>>139173104
What irks me more is that Veget just doesn't wish Planet Vegita/Salad to be restored and to revive all Saiyans, and maybealso wish to make them good willed instead of Conquering machines.
>>139179219
Alright, thanks. I guess I'll stick to DragonTeam.
>>139179451
It's been to long since they died, the dragon can't revive anyone that has been dead for over a year.
>>139173530
>There are many characters that were misused.
Ancient internet Japanese forum rumors pretty much leads to this:
>Gohan was supposed to be the new main character after Cell
>Editors were afraid of losing sales so Goku got asspulled back from being dead
>Goten and Trunks were supposed to also be a lot more relevant, specially since future Trunks and Gohan being the best bros was a thing
>>139179532
>the dragon can't revive anyone that has been dead for over a year.
This was a thing?
When did you realize that Toriyama doesn't have it anymore?
>>139179532
>It's been to long since they died, the dragon can't revive anyone that has been dead for over a year.
What about the revival of Frieza, and Goku mention something about reviving King Kai. I believe that got retcon by now.
>>139173530
Goten had hugely wasted story potential. He could've been the character Gohan was meant to be.
>>139179415
It is stated as programmed almost everything is programmed.
>>139179633
When goku became an alien
>>139179532
This was removed by Dende
>>139179633
When I first saw Beerus design and them reusing Freiza.
>>139173981
>You cant go fucking SSJ3 with no effort just because muh fusion, the amount of training needed to overcome the burden SSJ3 has is insane.
Isnt getting to SSJ2 and SSJ3 just a big deal of getting used to SSJ's power(So you dont end with your muscles going full gorilla by not handling the power) and theorization? Goku basically gave it as a gift to then when he explained it.
>>139176425
I want to hug him.
>>139179887
There is no proof dende removing or can requirement instead he made another requirement that's the new DB cannot revive the person that has been revived.
>>139180031
> or can remove
or make it weaker than before factually.
>>139179252
>le pls return to sp00ky nazi board
>>139178778
His design wouldnt have the blue shirt now, no one else has it nowadays.
How does that make you feel?Vegeta's Z design was better.
>>139168633
I think I get what is happening to go ssj you must be pure of heart and be angry as fuck.
Vegeta is probably acting like a dick so that cabba gets angry and turns ssj.
Since saiyans are nice guys in u6 he probably never got really angry before.
>>139180413
>to go ssj you must be pure of heart
bullshit
>>139168633
so are we really supposed to believe that a weak fuck like Cabba pushed Vegeta into going SSBlue?
Is it true that the Japanese and English version of DB are a completely different story? For example I know in the English version Goku spared Vegeta because of mercy and shit, whereas in the Japanese version he just wanted to fight him again
>>139180452
Well, if normal cabba is around the same power level as lava robot, then ssj cabba must be much stronger right?
>>139180461
No, I'm pretty sure Goku mentions wanting to fight Vegeta again in english too.
Leaving bad guys alive for the possibility of fighting them in the future is a running theme with Goku, see Piccolo.
>>139180461
He just wanted to fight him again
>>139180565
WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS
>>139171438
Did tarble even got metioned in super? I thought that line was only in the movie.
Daily reminder that only perfect beings get perfect themes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIYMn2B5bM8
>>139180682
Yes, but "We have no idea where he is" kind of thing
>>139180697
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woHtuw_xtcc
>>139180697
Super Buu's theme was way better though.
>>139180413
Pure of Heart is the Spirit Bomb.
>>139180720
Well, that's because he is non canon now.
>>139180724
>>139180738
Cucks detected
Name just one moment better than that theme playing when Cell returns
>>139180771
>clearly talking about music
>F-FUCK....WELL NAME A BETTER MOMENT
You're the cuck here, fuccboi. Don't be mad Super Buu's theme is better. Not saying Perfect Cell's is bad, that's not possible. He's perfection.
>>139180771
The moment where Buu reveals he was expecting Gohan to blow him the fuck out ever since mid-Gotenks fight and planned accordingly after the audience was led to assume Buu was a complete dumbass the whole time.
Was the most hype scene in Z for me since no other villain actually tried that shit ever.
>>139180771
https://youtu.be/rWcB8TZL3KA
>>139180839
>and planned accordingly
desu he got lucky that Piccolo acted retarded and didn't figure things out
>>139180878
>acted
>>139180312
Honestly Ultimate Gohan probably has the best good guy design
It hurts so much
>>139180866
>related videos
>SSJ3 Goku Theme
>>139180413
Vegeta showed pretty early on that pure of heart is bullshit, it's all about losing it.
>>139180955
>tfw SSJ3 transformation for the first time was one of the best moments in the series but the transformation itself was really shit
![Dragon Ball Super - 030 - Preparing for the Martial Arts Competition - Who Will the Last Two Members Be [DragonTeam][F3FCA591].mkv_snapshot_09.00_[2016.03.26_22.13.21].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/rw2qgzV.jpg "Dragon Ball Super - 030 - Preparing for the Martial Arts Competition - Who Will the Last Two Members Be [DragonTeam][F3FCA591].mkv_snapshot_09.00_[2016.03.26_22.13.21].jpg")
