How would YOU fix it?
The anime? Get a music composer who actually can make stuff that isn't so forgettable.
Make Rin the MC
>>139036162
>he didn't listen to the OST
>>139036032
Get someone who can draw profiles
Let someone who isn't nasu rewrite the entire story
>>139036032
Turning Saber into a man and removing Shirou
>>139036467
>Removing the biggest reason to actually get involved with F/SN
How? Why?
>same image
>same name
Same bait thread
>>139036032
Less talking, more fighting. The fighting scenes were amazing even if it only counted for 30 seconds of the whole anime
>>139036516
>HURR DURR I know I'm retard, but I'll continue doing so to save people.
Shirou is simply the stupidest shit of the show
>>139036631
Just by having them talk while fighting would fix 90% of the pacing issues.
Use the same art style that they did in the Vita OPs. Get rid of those rhino faces.
Archer 1v1ing Gil at the end instead of the "Shirou cums inside Rin and can use UBW now" end.
>>139036716
(You)
>>139036032
Take Fate/Prototype and write it into the universe. Done.
>>139036932
>Fate/Fujo pandering
How would this help?
>AOTY 2003: Lunar Legend Tsukihime
>AOTY 2006: Fate/stay night
>AOTY 2007: Kara no Kyoukai 1
>AOTY 2008: Kara no Kyoukai 5
>AOTY 2009: Kara no Kyoukai 7
>AOTY 2010: Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works
>AOTY 2011: Carnival Phantasm
>AOTY 2012: Fate/Zero
>AOTY 2013: Fate/kaleid liner PrismaIllya
>AOTY 2014: Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works (TV)
>AOTY 2015: Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works 2nd Season
>AOTY 2016: Fate/kaleid liner PrismaIllya 3rei!!
>AOTY 2017: Fate/stay night: Heavens Feel
When will other creators stand up and make something actually good?
Can Nasu be beat?
Fix the Rinho, add the VN music, done.
>>139036976
You don't know what fujo are, right?
>>139036976
>being this ignorant
>>139037022
What was wrong with the soundtrack?
Make the music louder in the broadcast version.
>>139037031
Yes, I do now fuck off Fujo landwhale
Everyone knows Proto would pander to the Otome fanbase(plain Mary sue protagonist getting a harem of bishonen heroic spirit) and of course the fujoshits would bite it too
>>139037099
Prototype is shit, deal with it
TM would never reach it's actual status if it released this Otome/fujo pandering bullshit instead of the original game
>>139037008
Here is your reply.
>>139036467
That's Fate/Prototype and it existsas an LN.
Make Shirou an interesting character instead of a Gary Stu self-insert.
>>139036745
Holy fuck I hated that episode where Shirou and Archer just talked for a whole fucking 20 minutes ass to ass they could've either removed that dialogue or made them talk while fighting but no Miaura thought that an ass to ass prolonged shot would've been better. Fuck you Miaura.
>>139041525
First of all, that didn't happen. They did fight a considerable amount in episode 20, and that "ass to ass" scene only lasted for a minute or two.
The dialog was completely pivotal to the story, and Shirou and Archer's character development. Do you know what happens when you remove it, and just make a straight fight? You get the DEEN movie, and that movie was completely devoid of substance.
>>139036032
>Continue from where UBW ended with a new season
>Follow Shiro's shenanigans with the sandniggers and his journey of becoming Archer
>All the way up to the moment he is about to get hanged, he has a change of paradigm, decides to fuck everything and just kill all the fuckers that betrayed him at his execution site
>He doesn't become a Heroic Spirit but doesn't want to help anyone anymore and actually becomes a cynical asshole rather than faking it like the faker EMIYA is
>He goes back to studying magic with Rin and broes it up with Waver
>Make it a SOL from this point
It could even print money.
Id make every retard on this board read the fucking VN before watching the show
>>139041697
>Shirou's character development
>>139041697
People were hyoed for UBW for the fights not for the dialogue Nasu wrote back when he was a highschool punk and that we read a decade ago.
>>139041957
Yep.
>>139041983
And UBW had plenty of fights. More than Zero, in the least.
But it also had a story. It wasn't a fucking Bay flick.
If you just wanted to see Shirou and Archer banging swords against each other though, there's a movie that dedicates about 7 minutes to doing that.
>>139041942
The only reason to read the VN was the last three days of HF, the last 2 day of Fate and all the Illya scenes including the bad ends. Everything else was trash including the character you posted.
>>139041327
why would anyone insert into shirou his life sucks
>>139041525
>literal 12 year old falling for CookingPriest's shilling
Fucking kek
>>139042207
>Cooking Priest
Literally who? I haven't been to Fate generals since UBW episode 20 outside of the Luvia shitposting on the epilogue episode.
>>139036032
It was almost as good as it could possibly be tbqh. Just fix the character designs, make the music louder, and maybe clear up Caster's backstory (pre-death) a bit better.
>>139041942
Id make every retard that posts "read the VN" actually read the VN.
>>139042156
It doesn't. If his life sucked no girls would like him and Rin would take saber in the first 10 minutes and he'd just go to school and shit for 2 weeks without noticing the grail war was happening.
>>139042308
A superfan from MAL who wasn't happy with the UBW anime
>>139036032
make HF
>>139042310
It would've been better if they upped the fanservice like they did in the epilogue and prologue and lessened the Nasu prose and dialogue.
>>139042437
his family is dead and he's doomed to be the earth's bitch for the rest of eternity on what planet is his life good
>>139036032
Simple.
>>139042529
They already trimmed about as much dialog as possible.
The thing you have to remember though is that this is based off a fucking 210k word story. There's going to be talking.
Why did Archer need to say "trace on" when he betrayed Caster
Make Kiritsugu Emiya the protagonist.
>>139042551
So? That's like everyone here's fantasy anyways.
>>139042620
To fuck with Shirou's head.
Make Archer the self-insert because I've gotten to the age were stopped being able to identify with a child protagonist.
>>139042645
But he died before the story even started
>>139042696
I sincerely doubt that anyone would want an eternity of betrayal and slavery
>>139042809
>being immortal and getting to fight epic battles forever
Why not? It's just immortality with shit job. It's not like archer doesn't get to eat out or watch some tv occasionally upon being summoned anyways.
Rhinoses.
Thats it. This is exactly what I wanted from an adaptation. Still hype for Heavens Feel.
I can't believe people defend Shirou's characterization. His bullshit motivation of "hurr I want to save errybudy" is:
1. Vague and uninteresting
2. Unrelatable
3. Lazy as hell from a writing perspective
Worst of all, he doesn't even change or learn anything by the end of the series. He's totally static.
>>139042779
You could make it so Kerry implanted his soul or something inside Shirou and Shirou was Kerry all along. It'd only take like an extra couple lines of dialogue in the VN anyways, since Kerry brainwashed an amnesiac into following his post-zero revelations as doctrine. Kerry only passed away after Shirou resolved to carry on his fight for him.
Kiritsugu just couldn't do it because he was injured and depressed.
>>139036032
I would've gotten better heroes, and no gender bending shit. I don't care if it is all males and it panders to fujos.
>>139043143
Bolt Crank had better characterization being a predominantly silent protagonist, and he had the exact same philosophy but he accomplished (and failed) it in an entirely better/more convincing way.
>>139043143
1. Shirou wants to help others because he was saved in the 4th War fire by Kerry, wants to help others in that manner as well.
2. Shirou willingly chooses to discard his humanity for his ideal. It's not 100% supposed to be relatable, though I can't see how you can't appreciate wanting to help people.
3. I don't even know what you mean here.
>Worst of all, he doesn't even change or learn anything by the end of the series. He's totally static.
At the start of FSN, Shirou has a dream to become a hero. In UBW, his belief is shaken and put to the test by what Archer reveal to him about his future. Shirou, knowing all this, aspects the potential follies, and chooses to move forward with his goal, because he knows it's right.
>>139042960
whats the point of being immortal if you cant enjoy it
>>139043143
>Vague
Part of explicitly established problem with his ideals.
>Uninteresting
Subjective.
>Unrelatable
Not supposed to be unless you were an arson survivor with mass survivor guilt.
>Lazy as hell from a writing perspective
Kiritsugu can easily be summed up as "edgelord" if we're oversimplifying.
>he doesn't even change or learn anything by the end of the series
>I didn't read the VN
>>139043342
I'd rather be immortal and in pain than happy for 70-80 years and then gone from existence.
>>139043292
Heaven's Feel is the only one that's good because Shirou stops riding Kiritsugu's cock and thinks for himself.
>>139043549
You are LITTERALLY saying you'd rather be in hell.
>>139043549
anon you would have to kill children and be executed by the people you're trying to save
Would have postponed it, if I HAD to make it. Without a proper Fate route adaptation, the pacing of UBW was uneven and some of the cast's motivations were lacking (or poorly explained, since some actions are undertaken by certain characters with the audience already having read Fate in mind).
Big OVA series' for all three routes or not at all. Also I would have fixed the fucking faces. I'm not sure what the fuck happened between UBW and Zero, but whoever was responsible needs to be shot.
>>139043707
I'd find a way to make it fun after awhile. Brain chemistry isn't hard to influence into developing extreme sadomasochistic tendencies.
>>139043644
>believing in religious afterlife
opinion discarded.
>>139043857
There is a Fate adaptation though, and I don't think there's anything really stopping people from watching it.
DEEN's version wasn't amazing, but it got the job done.
You keep on making these shitty threads, OP
https://desustorage.org/a/search/image/Vwk3gL1W8h6whsRTjwgCYw/
Using the same promo art in every OP is a tired IRC/Foolz retards tactic
Everyone report and hide.
"Watching the final episode, I was once again struck by how effortlessly you'd surpassed my initial concept. It's embarrassing for me to say this aloud, but in a way, I'm Archer, and you're Shirou. You said, 'The Kinoko Nasu back then isn't as bad as you say!' And ten years later, when I sulked about 'this grim, gory story not being relevant anymore,' you pulled out all the stops to win me over."
-Nasu
"I taped the source text from the original game on my desk, and I would find hints from that as I worked. Even among the lines you yourself might not have found to be that crucial, I found so many gems. So what I set out to do wasn't any different, but like Shirou's depiction, there might have been some aspects that did go through changes in the end.
For our part, we thought about making Unlimited Blade Works using one of the classic formulas, "the protagonist grows and matures and achieves catharsis". Speaking of which, from the early meeting stages, Mr. Nasu was telling us flat-out that Shirou was a character who doesn't grow or mature. Of course, that's Mr. Nasu's particular style of saying things, but, speaking for myself, that left a profound impression on me. To restate it in our terms, he was saying that Shirou is such an unwavering character that you think never grows or matures. That's proven to be a crucial stepping-off point as I draw the storyboards for this series. When we have meetings with Mr. Nasu like that, one or two pearls of wisdom that leave an impression sometimes come out of nowhere. Seeing how a creator's mind works up close was really stimulating. "
-Miura
>>139043913
Is it the Realta nua/baby version like the manga? Fate route was fine up until yuri ntr and shed threesome.
1
>>139044017
Yep. Funnily enough they didn't animate the most important scene under the Church
>>139043913
It's good for what it is, but you're omitting the fact that major story changes were made to it rather casually, don't you think?
For continuity's sake, it would have to be done over from the top properly. If they were taking it at all seriously, anyway.
>>139043968
Nasu once again displaying huge insecurity in his work. The guy just cant ever have an interview or comment without shitting all over himself.
He takes "Japanese humility" that one step too far. Its sad to watch.
>>139043945
Why do people still shitpost like this?
Its so fucking obvious and standard. It may have worked in 2009 but its just silly now.
>>139043908
Nice post fedora-kun
They should have gotten someone better to do the soundtrack, too. It was so bland.
>>139044293
It was good where it needed to be good but overall it was a bit dull, yes.
Brave Shine was one of the best OPs that year though
>>139036032
More Shirou.
>>139036032
First scrap everything and anything UfoUBW did for Shirou vs Archer, the most important part, because holy shit.
- Don't have Archer randomly cast UBW.
- Give more Shirou point of view, maybe with some flashbacks so we actually GET why he is fighting instead of "look I really want to save people". Shirou recapping what he learned through the story till that point and how his ideals changed would be nice.
- Make Archer more and more frantic and angry as match goes on.
- Properly portray the fact that Shirou is pretty much blindly charging refusing to fall.
- Have Archer look visibly damaged by that last Shirou attack instead of just shrugging it off with "k you won kid".
- If you want to show Archer's "life as guardian", do it properly, show him destroying countries, etc, not killing random muslim terrorists with a bow(that was such a laughable moment)
- Make the DIFFERENCE in their ideologies clear.
No emorock please. No Emorock please. no freaking emorock. Emiya all the way from the moment Shirou regains his resolve.
Second; pacing.
he first season had pacing down to a pat. The problem with it was that it spent itself on unimportant things like 3 minute shots of them eating in silence or Rin's ass, instead of spending that time in Shirou's head or explaining how the world works so that by the time of Ep12 we would be already comfortable and understanding of what kind of person shirou is and why things happen the way they do. The first two episodes are the most consistent and then the show slowly keeps slipping till the temple and bridge episodes that are easily worst of that season
Second season is just, uh what happened? There are moments that give Akame Ga Kill's "worst mood shifts of the year" moments a run for their money and most of content is...less of an adaptation and more an echo.
Out of post space but AS I said many times before, Ufo assigning complete amateurs to work on it "because it will sell anyway" was the downfall of it.
>>139044392
Thread over. The faggot's back.
>>139036032
It was everything I wanted from a UBW adaptation. The source material doesn't get any better than that, sorry fatefags.
>>139044219
Don't bring your religion into a discussion of immortality you autist. Because religion makes you inherently immortal.
>>139044392
Didn't Shirou get more than enough point of view?
>>139044470
He never left, he's just been shitposting without his trip
>>139044478
This but from the beginning I was hoping they would focus more on Kotomine and Rin's relationship
More Sakura
>>139044387
Remove Shirou and make it about Archer's redemption and harem theft.
>>139044619
I'm honestly not sure where they'd fit it in the show.
>>139044656
why would he cuck himself
>>139044488
Wasn't me dumbass. But the point anon was trying to make is that if you're saying you'd rather suffer for eternity, that's like saying you'd rather go to hell. They're conceptually the same.
I only posted because your neckbeard was showing.
>>139044488
The poster isn't saying he believes in hell, he's saying that Archer's life is his own hell, it is a state of unending torture and a constant betrayal of the beliefs that caused him to give his life over to Alaya in the first place. Nothing to do with religion, it's just that hell is conceptually the same as eternal torment and suffering.
>>139036032
Kill Rin.
>>139044702
Archer's experience isn't anything like hell. hell doesn't have days where you chill with hot girls at their giant mansions.
>>139044744
Rude!
>>139044110
Nasu doesn't hide the fact that he dislikes everything he wrote pre-2010.
>>139044700
Why wouldn't he?
>>139044782
Did you even read UBW? For Emiya Shirou, going on dates with girls is like hell. Something he feels he doesn't deserve and loathes himself for.
>>139044736
It's not even that bad. People have rougher lives everywhere.
>>139044854
Archer has an eternity to get over that shit.
Also
>Implying he doesn't fuck Saber when they occasionally overlap in the throne of heroes
>>139044920
She isnt in the Throne of Heros though
>>139045101
what makes you think that?
>>139045322
>death
>>139036032
moar SAKURA and RIDER
>>139045322
Reading the VN does. She's still meat, a human. Saber is taken from the moment she swore to be a heroic spirit in exchange for the Grail, rather than from the Throne of Heroes.
Considering that the UBW anime version is the Definitive version from the creator himself...
>>139042756
You might be ready for Heaven's Feel anon.
Congratulations.
>>139045322
That doesnt apply to Saber
>>139045572
I still don't understand Avalon. Why would Saber go there instead? It seems pretty boring. Also Shirou made it to Avalon but that also doesn't make sense because Avalon is supposed to make human explode just by being in contact with it's vacuum.
Tsukihime's "reunited and it feels so good" ending made more sense. Shirou really didn't feel that special in the grand scheme, not special enough to get to Avalon.
>>139045892
He isn't, Last Episode is some fanservice shit pushed by Takeuchi and marketing for all the Saberfags the DEEN anime generated. It wasn't even part of the original. Tsukihime's Eclipse shits all over it as an epilogue to the whole VN.
>>139045567
Shirou is still a kiddy-kun though.
>>139046001
I'm talking about Tsukihime's manga epilogue which is official canon.
>>139046001
Wrong. LE existed before the game was released but Nasu cut it due to wanting Fate to have a "Bittersweet" ending.
It was added back in after this fact emerged and fans of the game demanded the Saber good ending that they had been denied.
>>139036032
Make it an actual adaption of the VN. Don't cut anything out and for fuck sake don't ruin it by adding shit that wasn't part of the source material. Nasu also gets told to go fuck himself and gets the cops called on him if he is seen anywhere near the studio.
>>139046045
Sakura makes him a real man though.
>>139046110
Sasaki Shonen mixed Eclipse with Tsukihime 2, what a talented guy.
>>139046112
Why do Saberfags get what they want, but there is still no Illya route?
>>139046164
No she doesnt. Because of her he either dies or has to live life in a shitty puppet body. And the latter was thanks to Ilya rather than sakura
Its almost the opposite of making him a "real" man.
>>139046164
Popping older virgin cherries is typically the role of a slut after all.
>>139046210
It wasnt "Saberfags" anon. It was generally everyone who played and enjoyed the game at that time.
The fanbase in Nipland isnt anywhere near as fractious and split into angsty character fanbases as it is here. They just wanted an ending that they had been denied.
>>139046210
Kiritsugu has secretly been possessing Shirou's body since his death (minus his prior memories) and is subconsciously avoiding a Usagi Drop ending.
>>139046209
Sasaki Shonen made me gay.
>>139036032
Changing the MC for someone better, obviously.
>>139036032
By permabanning CookingPriest/Fai and his cocksuckers from this site.
>>139046595
He makes every anime better though.
>>139042756
But Shirou not being a self-insert is good, why do you need to self-insert to enjoy a story?
>>139047406
Shirou is a self-insert. A VN MC is inherently made for self-insertion. If you don't want a self-insert read a kinetic novel or something.
Animate the first 3 holy grail wars.
>>139047653
That's funny because Shirou is less of a self insert than Aoko despite the latter being from a kinetic novel.
>>139047804
I don't think so chum.
>>139047653
if they were trying make him a self insert MC they did a terrible job
>>139047838
> I never read FSN
Bait harder. If you could self insert into Shirou you would be dead by now.
>>139047653
You can't self-insert as Shirou, though. Your choices aren't built around what you want to happen in the plot, they're built around you, the player, figuring out what Shirou would do in that situation.
If you pick the wrong choice, you get a bad end.
>>139036162
eh the problem was the music was to quiet in some cases, like 90%sfx/dialogue and 10% music
>>139047874
>>139047843
Don't think you know what self-insert means. It doesn't mean wish fulfillment. The player is presented choices from the first-person perspective of the main character. The player assumes the role of the main character and guides their actions throughout. The player reads 1st person monologues and engages in 1st person sex scenes. You can't have a VN without "self-insertion".
>>139036032
>How would YOU fix it?
>>139047988
even with his lack of humanity shirou still has enough personality to not be a self insert character
>>139047988
If you "guide Shirou's actions" wrong, you end up dead. You have to pick the choice that he would to progress. Not a self insert in the slightest
>>139048077
No, you're confusing Gary Stu and self-insert.
>>139047988
First of all, first person has nothing to do with self-insertion. I think you might be thinking of second person.
Second person is when the story literally refers to the protagonist as "you". First person is when the character is referred to as "I".
First person is for when you want to get directly into a character's head. Second is for when you are being put into the story.
Also, refer to this when it comes to choices. >>139047894
>>139047995
whats this?
>>139048112
The fact that you used "you" as to refer to Shirou, means you're self inserting. If the point of the game is for Shirou or "you" not to die, then guess what? You're inserting.
>>139048156
King Arthur
>>139036032
Remove Sakura, insert more Ilya & Kotomine.
>>139048130
I'm not and shirou is pretty useless for most of the story it isnt until the end where he becomes a gary stu
>>139048207
this
>>139042079
>>139048135
The action of "getting into the character's head" is logically adapting your own thoughts to emulate him. That's self-insertion. If you need to think as Shirou to win the game, then you need to self-insert.
>>139048196
the player is there to guide shirou because its his story
>>139048231
A character doesn't need to have no personality to be a self-insert. What you described is a Gary Stu.
>>139048196
Yeah no.
In any case this has nothing to do with FSN specifically, take your shitposting to /vn/.
>>139043618
>thinks for himself
>doesn't save Ilya
>goes for Sakura
He might as well have clean his tongue right there because that's an ungodly amount of shitty taste.
>>139048313
do you even know what a gerry stu is?
>>139048266
What? No.
When you self-insert, you put your own thoughts and opinions into the character and scenario. With this, you're growing to understand what the character would do in that situation.
Growing to know and figure out the nuances of a character is something you should do with all fiction, assuming the characters are worth it.
>>139046497
I wish the entire thing got localized in English instead of the first 6 out of 10 volumes by Dr Master that aren't in print
Lucky Frenchies
http://www.ki-oon.com/mangas/tomes-290-tsukihime.html
>>139048277
Video games are about becoming a character. You become Shirou to guide him. Hence you're inserting as Shirou. VNs (with a few exceptions) are always a form of self-insertion. If you want to say that's not the case with the anime/manga adaptations I won't stop you, but a VN is designed for the player to become and act as a character. That's why people call the writing shit when they're unable to act in a way that seems logical to them as a reader.
>>139048366
That's role playing.
>>139048447
visual novels aren't really games they're just interactive books
>>139048447
Why people even arguing about this
>>139048505
Role playing is when you assume the role of a character, and take on their thoughts and opinions.
Self-insertion is when you forgo their thoughts and opinions, and try and put yourself into the situation.
>>139048517
They're incredibly rudimentary games but games nonetheless.
>>139048576
they are games in the same way that a butter knife is a blade
>>139048564
Switch those two.
Role playing is something you have control over. Self-insertion is becoming a character and receiving the same sort of emotional highs and lows as them during the progression of the story.
In short; the meaning of a buzzword has become muddied over time.
Put Shinji on the poster, hes the best character.
>>139048647
Okay, first of all, I think we're getting into semantics.
Second, I disagree. Role playing is like acting. When you act as someone, you take on their personality and thoughts. You yourself, as a person, might not agree with all their beliefs, but right at that time, you're not you, you're playing that character.
Self-insertion is putting you into the role. It's "well I wouldn't do what that character did. I would do /this!/"
That's where a lot of the frustration comes with people with Shirou. They don't feel like they control him, and can't place themselves into the story.
>>139048729
The actual meaning of what a self insert is has been lost here
>>139048783
Self-insert is like closed roleplaying where you only can play a single role. People get mad at Shirou because the role they were forced to assume goes in directions they wouldn't go if they had full control of the character's actions.
I'd say they did the best they could. Fan reponse is much more valuable and important. Not some American's "anime critic expect analysis" from ANN
>>139050231
>ANN
I heard that the comments were flooded with "You didn't pay attention, they explained this at" "Did you watch the episode? They said so here" & the reviewer kept on blocking people who did.
>>139050361
The reviewer was basically pissed that the story didn't have Shirou giving up his ideals.
Not even joking, for episode 20, she went on a 2000 word tirade about feminism and how Shirou's beliefs were an example of "toxic masculinity".
I'm being completely serious.
>>139048781
Man shinji is a interesting character and have great backstorry, its a shame than NAsu not use all the full potencial of him.
I am kinda mad than he is always portrayed like some generic edgy cartoon villian.
Well at least nasu did a good job with shirou character.
>>139048447
That's a completely idiotic reasoning, especially when applied to something that is by all reasonable standards 98% book. Using this logic, the term "inserting" applies to every possible piece of fiction starring anything that could be conceived as a "main character", thus making the term so universal it becomes completely meaningless.
Also, anybody pissed off that the character in a story doesn't obey their wishes needs to read/watch more fiction. Like... literally ANY fiction, ever.
>>139047760
Adapt Strange/fake
Gilgamesh fucks a native american loli.
>>139051275
Yeah, that's my point. Now do you understand that "self-insertion" is incredibly common? People use it as a buzzword but it's literally the primary purpose of fiction.
>>139051407
I thought the purpose of fiction was to tell a story
>>139051275
>something that is by all reasonable standards 98% book
Go post this on /lit/ they'll have a good laugh.
>>139051477
But why do we tell stories? (keep going... you're almost there!)
>>139051329
Remove Jpop.
>>139037008
>AOTY 2006 - 9
>not code geass
>>139051407
>>139051644
The primary purpose of fiction, at a base level, is to hear a good story. Other reasons are to get a message or a moral across.
They're not inherently made for the individual to live vicariously through. Some stories are, but that is not fiction as a whole.
Kawai kenji isn't dead yet
>>139052153
His soundtrack is overrated.
Like, it's okay, but Jesus, some people treat it like it was some complete masterpiece.
>>139036032
I dunno, it was shit from the start.
>>139052232
Comparatively, it may as well be
>>139052814
UBW's soundtrack was groundbreaking. Fukasawa wrote over 400 pieces of music for the show, with just about every new scene having an original score.
Kawai did a serviceable job, but no more so than any other anime.
>>139042645
Why? he's boring
>>139048196
You aren't really self-inserting, it's more like solving things by trying to understand Shirou as a person and the people around him.
For instance, Ilya uses Shirou's soul to blackmail Sakura, which the player doesn't know is other grail Ilya is talking about(not even Sakura knew at this stage), and you need Ilya's affection to circumvent this event. After getting the bad end, the characters tell you to be nicer to Ilya.
You know Ilya has very extreme methodologies about loyalty from interacting with her in the other routes, so when the option comes to keep your promise to meet with her, logically, you do so and the affection rating would go up. Also, Shirou gives hints himself that he wants to keep his promise so that is another point.
Thus you avoid the bad end.
That isn't self inserting, that is paying attention to the relationships of the characters and things both the MC says in internal monologue and what people say.
