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Anime Again?

Get it?
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Current ...
Fuck this.
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>>138986162
Current Season?
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>>138986162
Mary what are you doing here?
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>>138986252
Year.
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Melty Blood With ReACT Patch
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ud9m99e1crs516r/Melty_Blood.zip
Melty Blood - Act Cadenza
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ye8scp23sp770z2/Melty_Blood_-_Act_Cadenza.zip
Melty Blood - Actress Again Current Code
http://www.mediafire.com/download/4tdcue1nj77zsv7/Melty_Blood_-_Actress_Again_Current_Code.zip
Melty Blood Drama CD Pack - Ladies In The Water & Back Alley Pyramid Night
http://www.mediafire.com/download/9g722crr1mo8urs/Melty_Blood_-_Drama_CD_Pack.zip
Melty Blood and Melty Blood X complete manga (v1-v11)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/a966mu4z64hchbp/Melty_Blood_X_%28v1-11%29.zip
Melty Blood Soundtrack Collection - Lossless & Mp3
https://bakabt.me/torrent/151276/shingetsutan-tsukihime-melty-blood-soundtrack-collection-flac
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Sion bump
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>>138989495
I'm just waiting for the steam release to be honest.
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Really liked game's aesthetics. Too bad I can't into fightans.
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>>138992067
Same here

Hell, I am shit at fightan games but I have always wanted to play this
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What's going on in this thread?
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>>138993991
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSvhLyLPf24
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>>138994116
more like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuwoH2iZuKU

Wrong game, but this is now a Sion thread anyway.
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Why is the OST so fucking good?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEthafWbW5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tStV0RXPiH0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3HZho-g2B8
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>>138995608
>not posting best theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyHtBAh9pc
I love how well it fits the tragic character.
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>>138992067
It sort of pisses me off that I've been waiting for the English translation for 4 fucking years and then they release an official version just when it's about to be completed.
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>>138989495
i applaud the effort, anon, but if even one person downloads the game it'll be a big surprise
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>>138989495
You need CCCaster
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>>138992073
Look anon, Melty Blood is one of the easiest anime fighters into existence.
You just need to keep it at it, I bought Xrd in December and in the beginning I couldn't even do a 236 motion decently. It gets better.
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>>138995962
I'm 100% sure anyone can do it if you practice long enough, it's all muscle memory. I trained on XX reload and third strike mostly.Learned to do individual motions relatively fine, but was never able to do a combo. I'm also interested in how good can you do it on a gamepad, I had a stick back then.
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>>138996586
Sticks are for oldschool fighting game fans. Nobody plays fighting games in arcades anymore.
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>>138996761
>go to uncle's arcade
>the same 5 guys are playing the same fighting games there that they've played for the past 10+ years
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>>138996586
You can do all those stuff with a gamepad, stick is just personal preference. Look up Lost Soul videos of GG Xrd, he uses a pad.
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>>138995608
My personal favorite.
https://youtu.be/p-puTLAhGhg
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>>138996761
Unless you are in japan.
>tfw have to wait at least 6 more months for Central Fiction
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shion, aishiteruyo
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>>>/jp/
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>>138999499
Fuck off nigger. The best threads in the last few months have been /jp/ related. Tear down this wall. Down with borders.
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>>138986162
>>>/u/
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>>138999603
No. /jp/ belongs in /jp/. I hate needing to go to /a/ just to see threads that are relevant to my interests.
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>>138999499
>>138999603
Mr. Gorbachev tear down this wall!
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>>138999667
How is Melty related to /jp/ though? Am I missing something?
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TM's lesser-used girls are best girls.
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>>138999867
More accepted on /jp/ than Fate and Tsukihime since there's only a manga though I haven't seen a Melty thread on /jp/ in awhile.
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>>139000139
I forget who this is supposed to be.
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>Sion thread

So rare these days. Great taste
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>>139000224
Technically once Melty comes out on Steam it will become /v/ related.
How sad.
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>>139000241
I feel like I've seen her in a back alley or something.
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>>138995808
It's got a quite a large amount (200~)

Wonder if the guy re-scanlating the second half of the Tsukihime manga is still around?
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>>139000139
Who?
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Reminder that Matsuki Miyu is dead and any future Melty Blood/Prisma Illya works will have a different seiyuu
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>>139000738
Meh
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Tsukihime doujinshi.zip
https://mega.nz/#!3gsxkZ7A!LiU-y5wPHbnqqrXn7cwhzkaSKGzzfdZGn4-kRxtAyLI
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>>139000738
Can't they just use the old voice clips for Melty? They do that anyway it's just that Hisui won't have any new moves.
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>>139000139
Why I love her so much.
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I wonder if the Shiki Ryougi level will be playable in the Steam release without a hack
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>>139000911
They are porting directly the arcade version, so I think so?
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http://poal.me/54drq4
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>>138992159
You can play it right now though. I'll still buy the steam release because I want the nips to get my money.
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>>139001182
Ilya
Lens
Sacchin
the rest of the Back Alley Alliance
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>>138998186
good choice
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>>139001182
>Casko leading by a huge margin

Still early but i call bullshit
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>>139002866
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cats are the best
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>>139002941
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TAKEMOON
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ei89fqpv68k8pgt/Take_Moon.zip
T*MOON COMPLEX
https://mega.nz/#!ekFkURQQ!SBOfGGJcxYnqsqCCmb_4jxsWkyRgkYKAZmExHUry9a0
T*MOON COMPLEX X
https://mega.nz/#!P8t0xRrK!_egP9vKxgqLZ8pclJ8oyQz_UPYLj-yUu35df-V-3NgE
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I fucking hate those second gen fate shits like the stupid fox and red saber so fucking much
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>TM Complex
I both hate and love that series. It has spawned some absolutely horrible shitposting over the years but its probably the most faithful doujin series to the character designs and personalities
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>>139001182
I'm gonna post this on /vg/ and /jp/ to see what happens
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>>139003182
Anyone with taste does.

TM for the purists still consists of KnK, Turkeyhandle and F/SN. Mahoyo possibly and the two fandisks get an honorable mention as does Melty Blood.

Beyond that its just plain dross.
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>>139003242
thats from the /jp/ thread.
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>>139003481
Too late, the wheel of fate is already turning
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>>139003532
Rebel 1
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>>139003661
ACTION!
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>>139004153
She looks like she is having a WHALE of a time
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>>138986252
Current Cel. The anime will return to its hand drawn origins and take a gorillion years because it's RedlinexType Moon
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So what's this new extella crap, Typemoon dynasty warriors with the three worst shit characters playable?
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>>139004519
Dude that's just plain cruel
wanna talk about magipoka S2 also?
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>>139004534
Whoa easy there, Altera is cute.

But yeah, essentially. Nasu loves money and would rather keep getting Fatebux than work on expanding on other stuff from the nasuverse.

Tsukihime remake delayed to literally never fucking ever.
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>>139004646
>Altera is cute
Please go Suck a Huke
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>>139004609
Well if they start drawing tomorrow they'll still get it out before the Tsuki remake [/spoiler
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>>139004691
no u
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>>139004534
Well, Dark Souls 3 is about to be released so Nasu needed another injection of cash so he could just sit around all day playing it.

The F/GO cash injection he got when addicted to Bloodborne was dwindling.
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>>139004791
Looks like bad deviantart OC dude
no, seriously
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>tamamoshit still on top of the poll
All hope is gone
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>>139004930
Dark Souls 3 is already out in Japan
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>>139005096
Welp, all hope for the remake is now definately gone
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>>139005096
Dark souls games killed Armored Core and are the favorite drug of this piece of shit nasu
damnit i'm going to kill myself on internet, become a vengeful ghost and haunt fucking from software computers as an embarassing helper and desktop mate FOREVER
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>>139005230
Armored Core games not sellling killed Armored Core
no need to blame other series
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>>139005295
the last one sold like fucking hotcakes pal
Souls was simply much more profitable according to Namco, currently owner of from
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You guys better be down for Melty matches once the Steam release drops. I know the community might seem dead, what with having Melty matches on the streets, in Denny's, in closets, etc. but I'm sure this will hold it over until the Melty Blood HD release.
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>>139005400
Of course.

I secretly hope ArcSys hired the guy who made CCCaster to work on it and he is in a NDA since he hasn't updated the caster in a while.
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>>139005400
They had Melty matches in the bathroom at Final Round
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>>139005400
I'm down for it
but
>Melty Blood HD release
that ain't good enough for me. I want a new game
and more characters from other sources like my wolf punching dude
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>>139005491
If the Steam netcode ends up being a bust, I'm gonna stick with CCCaster. It and the MBcaster for Act Cadenza have been so useful.

>>139005494
Melty is a struggle. UNIEL and Xrd have knocked it straight into the poverty tier setups.

>>139005497
Maybe they'll add more characters from outside of Tsukihime like they did with Ryougi. If they ever actually end up releasing it, since they said it's going to be after the Tsukihime remake. If at all.
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>>139005670
As far as netcodes go, won't it use the same as the Steam release for Guilty Gear Xrd? which people thought was really good as far at netcodes if I'm not mistaken
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>>139005400
I'll try but the suffering may be terminal. We'll have to see.
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>>138999867
Meltan netplay threads used to be popular on /jp/ years ago (along with mahjong threads, though those have seen a recent resurgence).

If the Steam release revives those netplay threads, I'd gladly buy the game.
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Why is the opening so good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zldORaRtdMw
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>>139006072
I'll probably pop up on /a/, /jp/, /v/, and in /fgog/.
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>>139006479
Not only the opening. All of the games have excellent soundtracks. Despite being the same tune, this one is especially SUGOI SUGOI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmCgle4xPOc
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>>139006624
>>139006479
TM has awesome opening and OSTs.
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>>138986162
Sion is best gril. ROUTE when?
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>>139007556
That it does. Is there a Melty OST out there somewhere? I need it, viscerally.
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>>139009164
https://bakabt.me/torrent/151276/shingetsutan-tsukihime-melty-blood-soundtrack-collection-flac
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>>139009225
Thanks anon, have an undisputed best girl.
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>>139009386
>we'll never get anything that might explain the transition from stick in the ass Aoko to SUGOI SUGOI Sensei
feels bad
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>>139009386
Great taste.
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>>139009498
There's still supposed to be another two parts of Mahoyo.
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>>139009768
>Mahoyo doujins
How the fuck did I never knew these exist? and they're translated too?

>>139009823
>supposed
yeah, supposed
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>>139009768
The best Aoko doujins are the ones where Willy Wonka rapes her
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>>139009886
You monster.
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>>139009886
Those are Touko knk doujins aren't they?
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>>139009953
No, Aoko Mahoyo ones

Touko gets willy wonka to rape her sister.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yidUVoUz7Hc
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>>139010873
are we getting our groove on?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dva1xZbWAJQ
>Current Code version has to be extended
kinda sucks
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>>138989495
>spoonfeeding
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>>139005670
Melty had more entrants than UNIEL at Final Round.
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Sion is perfection and best purple TM girl. Rider is a close 2nd place.
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>>139011050
ZTS remix:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VowB2seWEzo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PW5pbDnQWk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrG721vTRm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynwOrPB-f5Y
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>>139005670
In the next game we probably would get Young Sensei, to have her tease Shiki and stuff.
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>>139012324
Sadly she didn't win the Shikibowl.
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>>139014220
>mfw we will never have a Sion H-scene

Feels fucking terrible, man.
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>>139014375
At least the first game is basically her route, and she has a harem. Sacchin doesn't even gets that much. Her route was the perfect ending, but the price was everybody forgetting how it happened.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUs0757QARM
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>>138989495
Thanks anon, you're doing god's work. I would download it but I already bought the discs
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>>139015257
They sold Actress Again for PC outside of the Carnival Phantasm box?
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>>139015385
Nah, I meant just MB and Re-act. I got the discs for story mode, waiting for steem version for the updated fightan.
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I'm having trouble updating CCCaster. When I boot it and tell it to update (from .15 to .18) it just gives me an error. Any idea what's happening?
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>>139017079
Download the update manually. There was a bug that broke the built-in updater.
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>>139017696
Huh. Thanks
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It's my headcanon that every girl who doesn't win in tsuki becomes part of Shirou's harem. Because he wants to SAVE EVERYONE.
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Do we even have a date yet other than "Spring 2016"?
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All these people and no one's hosting? Are we not allowed to do that in threads here? I was wondering where the nightly Melty threads on /v/ disappeared to.
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>>139018310
Sadly not.
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>no Sion route
>no Sacchin route
>no Taiga route
>no Bazette route
TM has an honorable tradition of making sure their best girls don't have routes.
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>>139018836
>Sacchin
Whom?
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>>139018836
Len is best girl and she had a route, kind of.
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>>139018912
I still get a hardon thinking about it.
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>>139018950
Literally best TM h-scene.
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I saw Sion and I was summoned
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>>139018687
Just wait for steam.
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>>139018836
>implying Shirou and Taiga were not secretly fucking
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I want to go vampire hunting with Sion every night.
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>>139019815
>Taiga route never
He was apparently willing to kill Rin without hesitation over her, c'mon Nasu, what the fuck. You really dropped the ball here.
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>>139019064
Wait, really?
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>>139021770
>he hasn't played KT
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>>139021770
Kagetsu Tohya is great.
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>>139018687
I'd host but I need to redownload Actress Again and CCCaster. Like other have said, expect netplay threads once the Steam release makes it even more accessible.
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>>139021849
How was KT so damn good. The only flaws I ascribe to it off my memory are not enough scenes with the Arihiko Family, not enough scenes with Tokie and the almost necessity for the giant flowchart.
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>>139021937
>Want to replay KT
>see that fucking chart
Fucking nope
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>>139022111
It's okay, almost all the good stories are in 10 nights of dream. All you're really missing are the fantastic scenes where Arihiko and Shiki talk about their outlooks on life, and that time Nanaya and the professional killer have drinks together in a backalley. And the fights with Kouma.
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>>139022215
T-thanks
Do you have a save file I could borrow?
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>>139022215
And that story from Akiha's perspective. I like KT, just like Ataraxia, but of course hijinks-based spin-off would be amazing. I like spin-offs more that main series quite often in general.
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how do I get good at fighting games guys
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>>139022690
Practice. Learn optimal punishes, proper spacing and footsies.

If you're playing with scrubs, just don't wakeup dp.
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>>139022690
If you are talking about melty, go watch rokunaya's videos. He does a really good job explaining the basics, stuff like differences between moons, move notation and that all that. Then, pick a character you like, look up combo videos and try doing them.

After that just practice and practice. Melty has a really good practice mode with a bunch of great settings and useful stuff.

When you're done practising, practice some more. You can't git gud at any game in a day.

You can also look up info about spacing, action frames and all that more complicated stuff if you want.

TL;DR: Play the fucking game a lot.
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>>139022271
Nope. Had a HDD crash, and lost pretty much everything. I wasn't doing my due diligence with save files
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>>139022690
This>>139022863.
If you don't want to do research pick a character who hits heavy and isn't too combo-needy or meter needy. Think Haku or Azrael from BB. Problem is I can't think of any of those in MB, aside from maybe, maybe Nero or Kouma. Melty is a very combo reliant game.
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>>139022271
rghost dot net/7TLfcMt8z
I think it lacks the overall unlocks file though, if that's not save21. Put it in the game folder.
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>>139023399
>>139022863
>>139022724
How hard is Ryougi to learn?
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>>139023399
C-Kouma is fairly easy as long as you can nail quarter circle motions and don't drop combos. His options are limited though, even with command grabs.

>>139023483
She has a lot of safe options and simple combos but it gets a lot trickier at higher levels. If you want easy, try the C-Moon versions of all characters first and then branch from there.
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>>139023483
Ryougi is my favorite melty, as far as difficulty goes, her BnB combos are fairly easy. It gets harder at higher levels of course. I love playing half moon on her because throwing the knife and picking it up in the air is fun as hell.

I think crescent moon is the easier moon to start playing. Full moon doesn't allow for reverse beat so it's trickier to learn.
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>>138995063
Do you like Melty or Inbirth design more?
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>>139023483
>>139023483
H-moon = easy to learn, hard to master
F-moon = hard to learn, easy to master
C-moon = easy to learn, hardest to master
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>>139024043
C-moon and H-moons big thing is access to reverse gatlings isn't it?
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Yes, whereas F-moon can't, but F-moon has access to IH which makes F-moon pretty dangerous when metered.
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Am I a retard or are midair last arcs really that hard to perform?
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>>139024312
Against other players, anyways. Timing an EX shield is hard enough if the other player isn't on autopilot, doubly so if they're wary of your Blood Heat. There are a lot of opportunities where it can become easy but if you're relying on your opponent to provide you with one outright, it's not so simple. Especially with air specific EX shields.
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>>139022305
Reminder that Akiha's friends spread rumors that she wanted to fuck her brother.
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>>139003145
>>139003200

Why haven't X08 and 09 been translated yet?
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>>139024453
It's true though.
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>>139024312
it's a big gamble when you're going to Last Arc against a real player and not against CPU. Players would be wary of your blood heat if you did so.
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>>138992073
Just play crescent moon dirty red and spam dou
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>>139024457
No HQ jp scans. Chinks refuse to share.
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>>139018279
You never save everyone in FSN and FHA.
Faggot
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>>139022305
I only finished KT for the first time recently. A lot better than I was expecting it to be. Some of the Ten Nights of Dream installments were Elder God-tier as fuck.
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>>139024563
Why do they keep doing that?
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So, Sion Eltnam or Sion Tatari?
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>>139024567
Shiki isn't the one running a train. He's the one getting a train ran on him by all those women and cat.
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>>139024190
IH? I know F can charge meter at will.
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>>138989495
will play once I am done with tsukihime.
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>>139024585
I know, right? I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it kinda sucks if you don't have a guide for it.
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>>139024664
Yes, full moon can charge meter at will.

IH = instant heat
it's a Full moon tech when you're in meter and you throw say a 214B (or any attack) and you cancel it by going heat. That way you reset your character's animation, instantly heal your red bar, and you're free to do another combo.
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>>13902465
What type of rushdown do you want
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>>139015257
Rips of the discs
https://mega.nz/#F!BA4yHYoT!NwGVKj4q9Z1vnpKlYY-4UQ
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posting best melty
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>>139003246
When did you get tired of Type-Moon?
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Could Shirou beat Giant Akiha?
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Remember when Takeuchi was good?
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>>139024948
Hell no, Shirou's a bitch.
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>>139025046
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>>139024928
Not that anon but somewhere around Fate/Extra (and/or CCC). While I don't vehemently dislike the characters or content from there onward, it feels like they're just pushing out so much inconsequential shit that doesn't engage like the previous works have.

Even with works like Fate/Apocrypha, which I found interesting at first, became a chore to read. Maybe the novelty of that specific work wore off. Maybe there's not much novelty at all in the other works that aren't "purist". Or maybe it's all a matter of opinions.
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>>139025183
This, it's just Holy Grail War #452368 over and over again. It no longer holds my interest like it did at the beginning. When I first read the VNs I literally couldn't stop reading. Now it's just meh.

I wonder if the Tsukihime remake will manage to make me feel interested since Nasu is probably going to change a lot of stuff.
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>>139025430
The holy grail war... begins once more!
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>>139025512
Hate that shit
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so is anyone playing atm? EU here willing to host.
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This thread is still alive and not stained by retards spamming "go back to /v/"?

Wow.

>>138992067
>I'm just waiting for the steam release to be honest.
>>139001814
>You can play it right now though. I'll still buy the steam release because I want the nips to get my money.

I want to finally have TM backgrounds. Hopefully they wouldn't be as expensive as Blazblue ones.
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>>139026254
I'm still trying to get a controller to work at the moment. Once I get it to work I'd be willing to try.
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Tamamoshit shit first place
Meme gaybait second
Third, "Fate was a mistake"
this is what TM fandom is made of today.
think about it.
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>>139026597
tell me when you rdy.
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>>139026597
What controller? Xbox? PlayStation?
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>>139026254
I don't have my stick
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>>139026675
Xbox
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Anyone uses a keyboard to play MB?
Is that even possible and comfy?
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>>139026787
It is completely possible, but it depends on the keyboard
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>>139026879
I have filco ninja well I mean wouldn't you break your fingers while trying to use keyboard in fighting games or something like that.

Also aren't you kinda limited without being able to use sticks for smooth movements or something like that?
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>>139026787
At the moment I have to. You get used to it I suppose.
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>>139024655
Sion Jacket.
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>>139026915
Let's just say that there is a reason because the hitbox is called the cheatbox.
Once you are used to it, 360, 720, DP motions and stuff like that, it becomes way easier on the keyboard compared to the controller.
I do prefer a stick, but that's jus personal preference
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I'm playing anime fighting games for the plot.
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>>139011733
>>139005670
Not only did Melty pull more entrants at FR than UNIEL, Melty had a suite, and UNI was only offered to set up in the suite's bathroom.

The tables have turned.
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>>139026666
Ready extra Satan. I'll be on a keyboard and expect rollback
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>>139027179
sweet. he hosting in a minute. need to get something.
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>>139027212
Instead of Tsukihim2/The Dark Six we got Fate/stay night
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213.89.122.141:213

hosting EU
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>>139027374
All I can say is sorry for this. I did not expect it to be that bad.
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>>139027420
what went wrong. it all just closed down.
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>>139027429
Looks like the delay was literally too much. Guess no Melty for me.
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>>139027456
ok.
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>>139027483
Still. 13 Delay. I've never seen it so high, kill me anon. End my misery.
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>>139027541
Are you on wi-fi?
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>>139027541
were the fuck do you live? east Europa?
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>>139027588
Australia
>>139027566
USB dongle thing. It's the best I can get from this mountain.
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>>139027639
You're not going to have good experiences playing with foreigners, Australian
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>>139027639
>Australia

i live in god damn Sweden. its the other side of the planet! of course i would not work.
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>>139027688
>Abbot wearing anything but speedos
>any of them even being able to hold a gun in any competent fashion
The guy on the right is even exercising TD, you give my nation too much credit. I doubt any of them have ever seen a gun in their lives.
>>139027695
That would explain it. Best of luck finding a game swedebro. Back to the table for me I guess.
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>>139027787
It's a cartoon, mate
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>>139027983
Verisimilitude is still necessary and they're too competent. You shattered it.
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>>139022863
>If you are talking about melty, go watch rokunaya's videos. He does a really good job explaining the basics, stuff like differences between moons, move notation and that all that.
Not him, but sweet: I think this was exactly what I've wanted for a while as someone interested in learning Melty but with zero real prior fighting game experience
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Favorite Kagetsu Tohya night of dream?
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>>139029029
A Story for the Evening.
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>>139029029
Red Demon God
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More BAA adventures when? I miss roast beef
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>>139029909
new manga focusing on the other drama CD (Ladies In The Water) started recently
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>>139030152
You can find that in the game?
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>>139030267
Click on the logo after unlocking the Eclipse ending
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>>139030152
>implying Nasu's eroscenes are not a masterpiece of poetic literature
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>>139030473
For what it's worth, the writing in h-scenes in FSN is better than in Tsukihime so at least he improved.
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>>139030473
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>>139030729
You read them in Japanese?
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